Some corrections, the fight was not for 3 sotiyos but it was two sotiyo timers those died in battle and a tatra and a fortizar that got saved(ignored), Also the pandafam fleet wasn't focusing on the praxises with drones but was focusing on imperium rokh fleet they killed 125+ rokhs and the imperium fleets was focusing on the paladin fleets from pandafam 49+ of them killed There was a full 250member praxis fleet using drones to pause the timer only 14 of them got killed.
@@gothmog2441 a praxis a 250+ raw drone damage if you use 4heavy drones with out any ddas, everyone do that with structures and also since this is highsec the normal null structure bashing mechanics won't be possible here
I miss more Trash Talk Tuesdays but this kind of brief commentary is also great. I miss Talking in Stations news format too, and I feel that EVE is great for this kind of content.
I do appreciate the coverage, I like to vaguely know what's going on between the big null powers out of curiosity. But it is just curiosity. The title says "and why you should care" but I wasn't given a reason to care, and I can't imagine one =)
you channel is awesome. I would advise, you really need to take care of the music on your videos, since your voice is very low. so either increase the volume of your voice or lower the music even more. aside from it, what a really nice informative channel
Just FYI the daily sov map of "coalitions" (not a thing in-game) is biased. For example the neutral states in the north of the Imperium are allied to the Imperium and form another coalition, but it's not marked on the map. Using the alliance map is better for future videos.
nope, not important. lost me @ 00.29, and probably 80% of all players could care less. the economic affairs of a few corporate stooges multiboxing dozens of alt ships isn't all that interesting...
As far as I know, both sides did not agree on what led to the war and what ended the war for World War Bee 2. So, I consider this video nothing more than Imperium Propaganda. I've talked to alliance members, alliance leaders of both sides that fought in the war. Let me tell you something to all of you that watch this video. Unless you get perspectives of BOTH PARTIES, all your getting is one sided "news" from a single source of "What really happened." When you get some guy that says, "This is what really happened", without first doing your homework, you might as well be walking in the dark without a clue.
We had Vily (spearhead of the PAPI coalition) on our show at the end of the war and that was indeed one of the biggest reasons for calling off the war. Can't sustain that level of committment without the vast amount of ISK the TTC structures generated. Remember, this was at the height of their power before any of the structures were destroyed. The Imperium didn't really need to agree to what ended the war since they were on the defensive and their win condition was survival.
@@NewEdenPost 7 Systems left. One of the major corps pulled out of the offensive, with threats made by three other corps to quit. I not only talked to the leaders, but the 2ndary's and the Fleet Commanders. Imperium was pulling out physical wallets to trade cash for PLEX, and turning that into ISK, and they had up to four months left after player burnout, with many players logged out for MONTHS. Mittani pulling out rolodex of past members, "Say Hey buddy how you doing, you remember this and that when we were playing, yah we got this really big fight going on, how would you like to be a part of it..." After a year, and real $$$ spent, everyone was pretty much finished with the war, and after that, yah I had a BIG long conversation of all parties of what the hell actually was going on behind the curtains. Everyone pretty much was tired of it. It was strict BURNOUT. Oh, I got to see every last Fireside speech of the Imperium, and behind the scenes War Planning of TEST, when I see PROPAGANDA crap, I get a little ticked off. Who was in the wrong. Who was in the right. What started the conflict. What ended the conflict. Who the hell do you believe you think your talking to? The mechanics? Small penny in the gumball machine there, of a whole slew of different problems that were piling up during the war on BOTH SIDES. "Oh, their ISK started drying up." With multiple sources of ISK? In game ISK Loans? Real world cash transaction in the CCP store. Seriously!? Shovel that propaganda down someone else's throat. Did it have a part yes. Was that all of it? NO! You want to know what ended the war!? "The game was no longer fun." That was from the leaders of both parties. The secondaries. And the players that were on the front lines. I wouldn't call it fun either, when your Leaders and FC's were breathing down your neck for results. Be there at 1am in the morning at this one location, and be prepared to be logged for 4 to 8 hours or more. Hey, we need this many ships with this one Fleet build, when can you get it done? Hey we need more Tritanium, we need you to rake in like 2 billion worth of resources...Oh, do you have the multibox program? Oh you don't, here this is where it is, how to download it, and then you....OHMYGOD! And that was DAILY! FOR A YEAR! And here you are, "Oh mechanic made it hard for them to make money at this one location." Really!? That's what you GOT after a years long WAR?! Mother of god. That was ONE speck in a giant lake of problems of what ended the war.
Thank you for the recap - really appreciate your effort here!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Ive never seen anything about this game in my life and if i was braindead i wouldve of thought this was real life lmao, awesome commentary
"EVE is life" as we say... everything in the game has real world value, so it is closer to real than you'd think
Honestly if any game can replicate the complexities of real world warfare, economics, and politics, it's Eve Online
My IRL job is basically I've been doing in eve since I was 12 lol (market pvp/data)
Some corrections, the fight was not for 3 sotiyos but it was two sotiyo timers those died in battle and a tatra and a fortizar that got saved(ignored),
Also the pandafam fleet wasn't focusing on the praxises with drones but was focusing on imperium rokh fleet they killed 125+ rokhs and the imperium fleets was focusing on the paladin fleets from pandafam 49+ of them killed
There was a full 250member praxis fleet using drones to pause the timer only 14 of them got killed.
“Using drones to pause the timer” … is that a leveraged game mechanic now? Creativity of EVE players never ceases to amaze…
@@gothmog2441 a praxis a 250+ raw drone damage if you use 4heavy drones with out any ddas, everyone do that with structures and also since this is highsec the normal null structure bashing mechanics won't be possible here
Nice coverage! 👍
TL;DR - Space communist North vs Space Capitalist South. gotcha.
I miss more Trash Talk Tuesdays but this kind of brief commentary is also great. I miss Talking in Stations news format too, and I feel that EVE is great for this kind of content.
Couple key things weren't quite correct or misleading but cool to see people trying to explain things for a more general audience!
Knock Knock. wuz here!
Thank you for the news, well done!!
was a fun Friday, felt a little bit sorry for any HS player that was logged out in Perimeter and tried to log in
Good stuff. i miss when dirk used to do these kinds of news in new eden drops.
Of course actually having some news in new eden goes a long way. :]
That is very true! I've learned that there's always news somewhere if you're willing to find it!
Good stuff, Redline!
Appreciated!
I WAS IN THAT BATTLE AND ITS ABOUT TIME GOBBINS GETS A FUCKING JOB INSTEAD OF DOING RMT
I’m subbing because I love Eve drama. I think you did a decent job. I hope you keep posting on a regular basis. Kept up the good work.
thx for the info! curious if the TTT fortizar is next
I do appreciate the coverage, I like to vaguely know what's going on between the big null powers out of curiosity.
But it is just curiosity. The title says "and why you should care" but I wasn't given a reason to care, and I can't imagine one =)
Good summary Redline ❤
best imperium recruiting add i have seen
"more combat ready" LOL. i highly doubt that.
however, they can be as combat ready as they want. 8/10 times gobbles is gonna pass anyway.
you channel is awesome.
I would advise, you really need to take care of the music on your videos, since your voice is very low. so either increase the volume of your voice or lower the music even more.
aside from it, what a really nice informative channel
very good material!
I was there. Fighting for Pandemic Horde.
yea finaly a good recap nice dude keep it up
Thanks, will do!
that was well done.
I guess this explains the huge lag in Perimeter last week.
It sure does. Wherever lots of players go, a ton of lag is sure to follow!
Why is EVE's population in such sharp decline this year?
do you have a podcast feed?
Would have been nice to be around to see that and not be out at work for the past week. A missed opportunity to try and steal loot from wrecked ships.
Very nice.
not used to news that isn't propaganda for one side or the other.
Just FYI the daily sov map of "coalitions" (not a thing in-game) is biased. For example the neutral states in the north of the Imperium are allied to the Imperium and form another coalition, but it's not marked on the map. Using the alliance map is better for future videos.
Remember kids, Goons is not here to ruin the game. We are here to ruin YOUR game.
nope, not important. lost me @ 00.29, and probably 80% of all players could care less. the economic affairs of a few corporate stooges multiboxing dozens of alt ships isn't all that interesting...
*promosm* 🙌
roflmao, your bias is very much showing
As far as I know, both sides did not agree on what led to the war and what ended the war for World War Bee 2. So, I consider this video nothing more than Imperium Propaganda. I've talked to alliance members, alliance leaders of both sides that fought in the war. Let me tell you something to all of you that watch this video. Unless you get perspectives of BOTH PARTIES, all your getting is one sided "news" from a single source of "What really happened." When you get some guy that says, "This is what really happened", without first doing your homework, you might as well be walking in the dark without a clue.
Well, what really happened?
We had Vily (spearhead of the PAPI coalition) on our show at the end of the war and that was indeed one of the biggest reasons for calling off the war. Can't sustain that level of committment without the vast amount of ISK the TTC structures generated. Remember, this was at the height of their power before any of the structures were destroyed. The Imperium didn't really need to agree to what ended the war since they were on the defensive and their win condition was survival.
@@NewEdenPost 7 Systems left. One of the major corps pulled out of the offensive, with threats made by three other corps to quit. I not only talked to the leaders, but the 2ndary's and the Fleet Commanders. Imperium was pulling out physical wallets to trade cash for PLEX, and turning that into ISK, and they had up to four months left after player burnout, with many players logged out for MONTHS. Mittani pulling out rolodex of past members, "Say Hey buddy how you doing, you remember this and that when we were playing, yah we got this really big fight going on, how would you like to be a part of it..." After a year, and real $$$ spent, everyone was pretty much finished with the war, and after that, yah I had a BIG long conversation of all parties of what the hell actually was going on behind the curtains. Everyone pretty much was tired of it. It was strict BURNOUT. Oh, I got to see every last Fireside speech of the Imperium, and behind the scenes War Planning of TEST, when I see PROPAGANDA crap, I get a little ticked off. Who was in the wrong. Who was in the right. What started the conflict. What ended the conflict. Who the hell do you believe you think your talking to? The mechanics? Small penny in the gumball machine there, of a whole slew of different problems that were piling up during the war on BOTH SIDES. "Oh, their ISK started drying up." With multiple sources of ISK? In game ISK Loans? Real world cash transaction in the CCP store. Seriously!? Shovel that propaganda down someone else's throat. Did it have a part yes. Was that all of it? NO!
You want to know what ended the war!? "The game was no longer fun." That was from the leaders of both parties. The secondaries. And the players that were on the front lines. I wouldn't call it fun either, when your Leaders and FC's were breathing down your neck for results. Be there at 1am in the morning at this one location, and be prepared to be logged for 4 to 8 hours or more. Hey, we need this many ships with this one Fleet build, when can you get it done? Hey we need more Tritanium, we need you to rake in like 2 billion worth of resources...Oh, do you have the multibox program? Oh you don't, here this is where it is, how to download it, and then you....OHMYGOD! And that was DAILY! FOR A YEAR!
And here you are, "Oh mechanic made it hard for them to make money at this one location." Really!? That's what you GOT after a years long WAR?! Mother of god. That was ONE speck in a giant lake of problems of what ended the war.
@@toniheinonen1034 Stated below.
This is old news boring
you're late