Musa deserved better, especially as a singer. I get that Bloom is the leader of the club and the main character, but Musa could've been a great leader of the musical band too. She's the fairy of music and it's her dream to become a singer. At least some more scenes in which she sings with Bloom would've been much more appreciated.
Agreed! They've always been my fave fairies, and their powers are so different compared to other magic power shows. They could have done so much more with them >.
right i’ve always been so mad at how much potential their powers have beyond just magic blasts like what if musa could manipulate sound and help with stealth stuff? or use music as like hypnotism? or tecna could use electricity powers or manipulate appliances or have cool techno weapons
@@darao.4907 i totally agree! The creators were always putting the main focus on the three princess fairies but never Tecna, Musa, and Flora! I would love to see Tecna use electricity and travel through it. I would love seeing Musa creating sound waves enough to break things. I would love to see Flora do more with nature. They did them so dirty and its not fair.
Musa: You used your Sirenix wish to bring back your dead sister who gave her life to save the Magic dimension, I never used my Sirenix to bring back my dead mom, That doesn’t seem fair.
don't forget that only MUSA who doesn't enter the legendarium alone like the rest. Nickelodeon doesn't allow us to see what Musa and her two bubbly pigtails in Mythix can do
It’s so awful how they could’ve revived Musa’s mom twice, but instead they didn’t take the opportunity and gave Bloom her whole family back instead, I get Bloom’s the main character, but that’s just extreme double standards and they never bothered to explain why the girls had different viewpoints or how that would affect their friendship or anything Also cinélume’s voice acting is horrific and I will hate it forever, I am never going to forgive them for giving Musa the voice of a 40 year old in season 3 - 4
They really should have followed their own previously established rules in seasons 3-4 for the character casting, it wouldn't have been so bad either. Cinelumè uses Arthur the Aardvark voices. The ideal person to pick up for Sara McCullough would have been Tamar Kaslov (voice Prunella Deegen) since Bloom is voiced by her best friend Marina (Helena Evangilou)...and the same with Nabu by getting Luke Reid....seeing as how Winx took the original Arthur voices for the Cinelumè dub for both boys and girls...and maybe they could have even got Michael Caloz or Oliver Granger to be Helia or Brandon at some point since Sky, Riven and Timmy are Buster, George and the Aardvark himself (and he's dating Francine as usual with the tech fairy.) as that's the Aardvark's middle name...and that's why he wears yeow and Tecna buys him sweaters!
especially since her mom dying or living didnt ruin anything they just were poor and not some royalty like poor people suffer because of the "upper" class(and their deaths are totally avoidable) but they dont "deserve" attention and when they die because of a stupid totally random disease its "unavoidable" but when its a white mc's royal family...
Musa: the most emotional suffering Aisha: the most emotional AND physical suffering Tecna: probably the least suffering but also gets the least attention Stella: living a fabulous life, saving her kingdom here and there Flora: plenty of physical suffering, but she doesn't top Aisha😢 Bloom: nobody touches her, she gets everything she wants
I don't think stella's life was also that great .... she lives a luxurious life but she suffers mentally.... her parents ,the responsibility of being future queen ..... no everyone will feel her sufferings......
@@mohimaNourin-jl8qi I agree her life is not perfect, but I think she experiences mostly first-world problems. Aisha is also a princess, and yet, her bad situations are somehow way more tragic - growing up lonely, being friendless, being beaten and thrown around by Darkar, going blind, losing Nabu... I don't feel like Stella ever experiences anything nearly as bad. It doesn't mean I don't love her as a character, but I think she is a bit less relatable.
@joaovictor-oy4wz Can't they shove her in the background atleast once. Like have her play tambourine or something then Musa sing with her electric guitar
@@KagisoMagwatii agree , musa is the fairy of music who always dreamed of being a musician she should be the leader of the Band not Bloom, and this is coming from Someone who loves bloom Edit: also Sorry for my grammar english is not my First language
Bloom is an attention seeker. She wants to be involved in every single things. Although she's the main character she's my least favorite of them all. She shouldn't even be the main character. They all should. That's why the show is called winx club and not Bloom's club
Riven character development went up, down right left, it's a maze, its so confusing, anyways, Musa deserves some love and respect, they did her dirty with the singer career that she worked so hard for turned into a band with bloom as a sing lead
I've always hated how she got robbed from being the main singer. I stopped watching Winx Club after season 4. All nonsense scripts started since season 5. Musa and Tecna were always my favorites, and when they were starting to get some highlight moments, the next scene they get ghosted or shade. I don't have faith on that reboot tbh... Great editing btw. ❤
@Gadelyva yea but the whole “Bloom being the main singer” started in season 4 too during the competition episode. But season 5 is not bad idk why people say it is. It WAY better than season 6 and 7, like at least it was entertaining and we go Harmonix
@@Alicia_joi23 yeah I agree and honestly imo, in some ways season 5 is way better than season 4, I don’t get why people favor this season so much as it mostly has the problems the newer seasons would have
@Alicia_joi23 I never said season 4 was any better or favouring it... In fact, I think it has many flaws, like that thing of Bloom being the main singer. Besides, I always hated what they did to Nabu... I personally don't like many things from season 5. Harmonix is beautiful, but it's not a season for me, and if y'all enjoy it, that's cool. That's it.
I stand by the fact that if they actually developed Musa and Riven’s relationship and gave Riven the obvious character development he needed to be a better person (after seasons 1-3 where they actually did try developing him), their relationship progression would have writing wise been THE BEST in the whole show. Not to mention Riven’s character would have been one of the best written among the specialists, if they made him actually grow to be a better person.
I always wanted to see Musa use her Sirenix wish on later seasons for a certain situtation. At least that would make up for the mess they did with the season 5
I will NEVER forget that contest in World of Winx in french dub when Bloom sang in WoW emission (the episode when she gets fired in the end) and she sings using Musa's VA voice 🥲
I have an unpopular opinion but in the Rivusa relationship, Musa is ALSO problematic! I tend to separate seasons 1-3 from the rest because season 4 added a lot of the hate everyone has for Riven. But here's the thing: Musa never tried to understand Riven's personality, she always try to change him. I mean Riven is clearly a complicated personality. He started as a mysoginist character (due to her mother abandoning him as a child, a true storyline that was sadly never explained in the show but revealed in the website around 2007) but started to realise at the end of season 1 he was in the wrong and tried to get better. But even after it, he's not someone who speak a lot about his emotions. And Musa need someone who is more open about his emotions, so she's always angry at him for being cold. But the worst she did to me was in season 3. They had a very small arguing in episode 9 because Riven told Bloom that if Sky didn't want to talk to her, she'll has to accept it. Which was kinda cold, but understandable from Riven perspective. But it made Musa angry. And for the rest of the season, Musa was still angry at him for nothing. And the ONLY moment she started to be nice again with him, was when Riven showed jealousy in front of Nabu!!! Because Riven finally showed his emotions. But still, this is where I realise that Musa has toxic traits too
@@WinxClubNewsflashput a clip of someone cursing at the end of the video, so people will be able to see the comments amd it won't be considered a kidshow
Ohhhh i hated this Arcaina so much for what she did to musa in season 3 ... Not only she gave her the WORST dilemma Not only she played with her emotions and manipulated her She also didnt bring her mother back or at least SOMETHING from her(a necklace or something )... I felt so bad for my fav winx fairy istg this moment needs to be recognised more
I agree. It would be more fair if Musa had to give up her voice. It's something very important for her too, just as beauty is for Stella and emotions are for Tecna.
@@danaiarseniadi2477 not only that for tecna and stella it's a win win situation but for musa WTH SO YOUR SAYING THAT IF I CHOOSE THE PATH TO BE MY MOTHER I WOULD GET HER BACK OR WOULD I BE DEAD.....LIKE ARCAINIA WTH
I agree too! Something should have been given back. I don’t like characters being brought up back from the dead which is good that seasons 1-3 didn’t try to do. Although Musa deserved something in return. Maybe like a message from her mother from the Afterlife would have been nice.
3:49 She knows the lyrics and when to sing because she is a Guardian Fairy of Music, she can hear the music to people's hearts and can even sing them. One To One could also be Riven's heart's music he desires, so that's why I think she knew the lyrics and when to sing.
@@L-Archiviowell maybe Riven has a way of cloaking it because he knows she knows how to sense it? I mean it would make sense that even if Musa was aware of it, he'd try to hide it somehow even deep deep within his mind because Riven didn't want the surprise spoiled.
It would be perfect if the writers actually remembered that and we didn't just have to guess it 😭 Cus why would she be so heartbroken with Riven seemingly hanging out with another girl (in S5Ep19) if she knew that the song in his heart was for her (Musa)?
Not to mention when Stella exaggerated about Musa's love story with Riven and said he was interested in Darcy not her while she was studying for an exam and made her run away crying and when the latter was "spying" Darcy being with Riven and Icy told her that Riven found her insignificant which angered her so much that she slapped her and Icy summoned all the other witches to give her a lesson and started chasing her
Musa: You used your Sirenix wish to bring back your dead sister who gave her life to save the Magic dimension, I never used my Sirenix to bring back my dead mom, That doesn’t seem fair.
Musa is a very important character to me. She encouraged me to not abandon singing even if people told me that I was bad. I sang Winx Club songs with joy for many years, until I actually became good. So I was always extremely sad when the writers deprived her of something, be it screen time, a healthy relationship, the leader position in the band, a Syrenix wish, etc. However, I enjoyed the plot line where she got her voice stolen because it was thrilling for me (at least, when I was a kid). I just knew that her voice was very important for her, so the threat had more impact to me. And since I've mentioned this topic: I think it would be fairer if, in the Water Stars episode, Arcadia forced Musa to choose between her voice and the Water Stars. Just think: it's an important part of Musa, just as beauty is for Stella and emotions for Tecna, and it can be returned, unlike her mother.
Literally why I pretend season 8 never existed… The ENDING FOR MUSA AND RIVER’S RELATIONSHIP WAS LONG DUE BUT THEN THEY GET BACK TOGETHER FOR THE NEXT SEASON!?
Even as a kid it would annoy me how the writers would make it all about Bloom in the later seasons and push the other girls out of focus. They made her such a Mary Sue bruh. Musa deserved to be the lead singer :(
Before the comment section disappears let me just say that i really couldn't care much for the band. I'm glad they didnt accept the contract. I think Musa should've been a solo act. And i dont see how they could have managed a band and a contract with their roles as you know, guardian fairies, (attracting dangers like Diana, imagine how much disruption that caused to their audience, just because no one was injured doesn't mean an average person would be okay with that), half of them princesses with royal training to undergo if they ever get out of Alfea and so on. And they still kept together as a band and did concetts anyway so no loss. That dream seemed contrived for all of them except Musa anyway, who really should've aimed for the magic dimension instead of Earth. Phew that was long. But i got it off my chest. Thanks for reading!
Sometimes it's best to not stay in a group where you're sidelined this hard.. Musa should've focused on her career w Jason, that group that was honestly holding her back.
The fact that Bloom basically got a story rewrite so she can bring back Daphne, we all know she wss dead, but then she was cursed. Yet Musa cant get her mom.back or even use her Sirenix wish to maybe see her
fun fact, the weather pixie had her own introduction episode in pop pixie (a winx club side series that was on netflix) so she didn’t join the pixies until later, (she was actually with them for that long but rainbow or nickelodeon didn’t use her until years later) hence why she isn’t seen in the early episodes
Musa and Riven had their relationship up and down in Season 3, Season 4 and now in Season 6 Riven have been very obesses with his training that he had been ignoring Musa a lot which made her sad.
While I agree with this video, she got more interesting as a character after season 2. I fell in love with her design and personality, especially in S5
I agree, I love that she had her sassyness in season 5 and love how season 4 tried to advance her dream of being a musician and she’s the 4th winx to have a backstory(the first 3 being bloom Stella and Aisha )
8:59 I love how in Brazilian dubbing this didn't happen, But in compensation we didn't win verse 2 of the song they sing in this episode, they just reused the first one
I think it was explained that Daphne wasn't technically dead. Meaning she didn't naturally die. Her consciousness was still present and active but the same can't be said for Lisa's mom
I remember as a kid when I 1st started watching the series that Musa was my automatic fav along with Flora...its sad to know her character's treatment only got continuously worse 😢
This was funny, true, and sad, all at the same time thanks for making this you really made this enjoyable to watch I was laughing so hard on some parts. I love her a lot she’s honestly the best character in the series and when her pixie changed in season 6 I was so mad like seriously her original pixie was like such a good match for her. It so didn’t make sense
WTF DID THEY JUST REPLACED MUSA AND TECNA'S ORIGINAL PIXIES!!!!!😭😭😭 THEY HAD THE SAME MIND/SENSE OF MAGIC!!!! MUSA DESERVES MORE THAN SUFFERING FROM THE CONSEQUENCES THAT THE ANIMATERS ARE SOO EVIL
I mean they're both adults but it still feels...... wrong. Like Jason doesn't look 40,he's like in his 30's or something but still I feel like she wasn't a FULL GROWN adult at the time,if she was in her mid 20's it'd be fine I guess but fine doesn't mean good.
Honestly I don't know what was going on with the Musa and Jason plotline, S4Ep15 always confuses me because of her being so upset that he was getting married?? I guess she was just going through a lot with Riven but I always remember her sadness was towards Jason and not Riven in that moment :/
No. Jason never reciprocated musa's feelings as he was already engaged. Musa liked him but it stopped at that. Nothing more than a teenager havjng a small crush on an adult celeb 🤷🏾♀️
13:01 I think this is because without her voice she can only be her original and weakest form, the one in season 1, because they call out the specific transformation they want to use, I think that’s how they transform in each unique form
I need an Aishai and Techna version NOW. Due to Bloom being the MaIn ChArAcTeR they always brush aside old logic to make her even more overpowered and onky that applies to HER, the rest of the cast always forgets what they do in past seasons aswell.
I would say Flora is the most robbed as well. They barely do anything with her character. Like, Flora is my favorite Winx but do SOMETHING with her character other than making her the shy nature girl.
@@Rio-chii Eh, not really. They gave Tecna amazing powers, nice backstory, nice personality, a great boyfriend and is one of the most iconic fairies. I don't think Tecna is "robbed".
@@aquamarinequeen I might be reaching here but isn’t it weird how the 3 POC in the group are consistently robbed and denied happiness. 🤔 just something to think about
Musa in a nutshell: "Like who could've seen that coming, like TO THE SURPRISE OF NOBODY!!" *insert Mr. Krabs face* In all honesty, I wonder, if there's some vendetta against Musa inside Rainbow, given that they have that bias. Also, ONORE NICKELODEON.
Riven: you could've sing a lot better I SWEAR IF BLOOM, STELLA, TECNA, FLORA AND AISHA WERE THERE RIGHT NOW that's the last sentence we will ever here from him before his 💀💀 like why did rainbow decided to get rid of Nabu WHAT ABOUT RIVEN he has been toxic to her like the past decade in season 5 he does do something for once but in season 6 he is such a jerk like i swear
7:08 This might be a little bit of a hot take, but I don't think Anik Matern is all that bad when voicing Musa. Sure, her voice doesn't match the character, considering Musa literally sounds like a 40 year old woman who smokes 5 packs of cigarettes a day, but at least she does a pretty decent job at her performance. Now, I'm not gonna lie, Anik's performance felt pretty awkward, yet decent during season 3. (With the scene of Musa and her mother talking, serving as an example) BUT, I felt like she showed her true potential with season 4. Even though her performance was still a little bit awkward and stiff at some parts of season 4, it really felt much better than her season 3's performance. (An example being in season 4, episode 20, when she, Flora and Aisha were trapped in Diana's dungeon and Diana was gonna send her knight fairies to capture the other Winx, she really went on hard with the line “OUR FRIENDS WILL COME AND RESCUE US!" Honestly, I just really loved that yelling moment and the little groan she does after.) It's quite sad that Cinelume didn't get the chance to dub the rest of the Winx seasons, cuz I would have liked to see how much her performance would improve. But either way, even though Anik is still on the bottom of my list for like Musa's voices, I feel like she still did a decent job at voicing her. (Musa)
Tbh lots of winx club characters deserved better either from the show/creators or from the fandom Examples: - Flora always felt underdeveloped for me. Even in earlier seasons ,it felt other girls had more going on than her(yep,even Tecna ) - Mirta in season 1 played big role but after that season,she slowly started to dissapearwhich is sad cause it would be interesting to see her more often Riven in season 2 felt like he was starting to become a better person so the fact that it wasnt a case makes me mad Oh and since this video is about Musa,I would like to point out that she is one of my favorite characters from winx club for a few reasoms: - I have a soft spot for idols/singers in show cause it was once my dream + they are often a such sweet characters - she reminds me of my mom. I wont go too deep into that due to privacy so the only thing I will tell is that just like Musa, my mom lost her mom when she was in her 20s (her mom had problems with heart) so.. - also Musa is a chinese character right? And I did heard people calling me a Mulan because of my apperance XD
Really? Lisa Ortiz from 4kids wasn't good? I thought Lisa Ortiz was good and 4kids is also the only dub where they actually bother to let Musa sing all the songs all the time except for "Hero" where they have Brandon's v.a. sing (and you can tell by the lyrics it's Brandon's).
@@Alicia_joi23 but they rarely let Romi sing just like most dubs including the original Italian doesn't even let Domitilla D'Amico sing. If you have someone playing Musa, you should let them sing. That is one thing that 4kids actually got right!
Okey 3:33 what were the writers actually thinking when they wrote this script for Flora 😭 It feels sooooo out of character Tecna should've had that line instead
Ironically I actually find it really in-character for her. Flora has always been that mom friend who can actually get aggressive if she feels those she cares about are being hurt so it makes sense to me lmfao plus this is the season with the Krystal drama so I'll afford the writers some credit and say it's consistent she'd be jumpy at cheating with that happening in her life
The thing with Cherie is that after the series pop pixie everything changed. Somehow after season 5 she was assigned as Musa's pixie just bc they look similar!
Musa deserved better, especially as a singer.
I get that Bloom is the leader of the club and the main character, but Musa could've been a great leader of the musical band too.
She's the fairy of music and it's her dream to become a singer. At least some more scenes in which she sings with Bloom would've been much more appreciated.
@@Wizard.of.Elements Maybe they takes turns, or Nickelodeon wanted to make a bad pun at Musa's expense.
@@patrikbengtsson3883nah they just wanted bloom to shine
@@sharminafroz8351 The project name for the franchise was Magical Bloom.
@@patrikbengtsson3883 That makes sense
@@patrikbengtsson3883then they should have kept it as magical bloom instead of the winx.
I SWEAR THEY DO HER AND TECNA DIRTY. HER AND TECNA CAN DO SO MUCH WITH THEIR POWERS
Agreed! They've always been my fave fairies, and their powers are so different compared to other magic power shows. They could have done so much more with them >.
right i’ve always been so mad at how much potential their powers have beyond just magic blasts like what if musa could manipulate sound and help with stealth stuff? or use music as like hypnotism? or tecna could use electricity powers or manipulate appliances or have cool techno weapons
@@darao.4907 i totally agree! The creators were always putting the main focus on the three princess fairies but never Tecna, Musa, and Flora! I would love to see Tecna use electricity and travel through it. I would love seeing Musa creating sound waves enough to break things. I would love to see Flora do more with nature. They did them so dirty and its not fair.
@@Jihoo._try watching world of Winx, Musa manipulated Bells, super hearing abilities and Tecna does it with techs
@@lulukulu5489 i wouldve liked to see more of their powers in winx club tho.
Musa: You used your Sirenix wish to bring back your dead sister who gave her life to save the Magic dimension, I never used my Sirenix to bring back my dead mom, That doesn’t seem fair.
I remember aisha/layla bring trittanus back to, he was died i think
Bloom simply wished for the curse to permanently cease, the second chance in life for Daphne was just a byproduct.
@@meda1703 Tritanus?
Was it not his twin brother whom later teamed up with Bloom to defeat him?
Not only that, but Daphne has been dead longer than Musa mother
@@meda1703 you mean her boy friend nabu
As a certified Musa stan, I am glad SOMEONE made this video about how the writers screw her over.
Same
Omg yes, I love musa
EXACTLY
Fr me too
ME TOO SHES MY FAV SINCE I WAS LIKE 5 YEARS OLD
(I still love her to this day)
don't forget that only MUSA who doesn't enter the legendarium alone like the rest. Nickelodeon doesn't allow us to see what Musa and her two bubbly pigtails in Mythix can do
Not just Nick but Rainbow as well😂
Musa was the most useless from the group in her mythix form, she didn't had any single attacks like the other winx did😢😢
Rainbow?@@bryankusoo
It’s so awful how they could’ve revived Musa’s mom twice, but instead they didn’t take the opportunity and gave Bloom her whole family back instead, I get Bloom’s the main character, but that’s just extreme double standards and they never bothered to explain why the girls had different viewpoints or how that would affect their friendship or anything
Also cinélume’s voice acting is horrific and I will hate it forever, I am never going to forgive them for giving Musa the voice of a 40 year old in season 3 - 4
They really should have followed their own previously established rules in seasons 3-4 for the character casting, it wouldn't have been so bad either. Cinelumè uses Arthur the Aardvark voices. The ideal person to pick up for Sara McCullough would have been Tamar Kaslov (voice Prunella Deegen) since Bloom is voiced by her best friend Marina (Helena Evangilou)...and the same with Nabu by getting Luke Reid....seeing as how Winx took the original Arthur voices for the Cinelumè dub for both boys and girls...and maybe they could have even got Michael Caloz or Oliver Granger to be Helia or Brandon at some point since Sky, Riven and Timmy are Buster, George and the Aardvark himself (and he's dating Francine as usual with the tech fairy.) as that's the Aardvark's middle name...and that's why he wears yeow and Tecna buys him sweaters!
especially since her mom dying or living didnt ruin anything they just were poor and not some royalty like poor people suffer because of the "upper" class(and their deaths are totally avoidable) but they dont "deserve" attention and when they die because of a stupid totally random disease its "unavoidable" but when its a white mc's royal family...
Musa: the most emotional suffering
Aisha: the most emotional AND physical suffering
Tecna: probably the least suffering but also gets the least attention
Stella: living a fabulous life, saving her kingdom here and there
Flora: plenty of physical suffering, but she doesn't top Aisha😢
Bloom: nobody touches her, she gets everything she wants
Bloom has the plot armor lmao
And the attitude of bloom.don’t even get me started
I don't think stella's life was also that great .... she lives a luxurious life but she suffers mentally.... her parents ,the responsibility of being future queen ..... no everyone will feel her sufferings......
@@mohimaNourin-jl8qi I agree her life is not perfect, but I think she experiences mostly first-world problems. Aisha is also a princess, and yet, her bad situations are somehow way more tragic - growing up lonely, being friendless, being beaten and thrown around by Darkar, going blind, losing Nabu...
I don't feel like Stella ever experiences anything nearly as bad. It doesn't mean I don't love her as a character, but I think she is a bit less relatable.
Nabu dying is literally the first time I was like: wtf.
Bloom doesn't deserve to always be a leader in everything. Musa deserves better
Is the writers fault for giving Bloom top much attention
@joaovictor-oy4wz Can't they shove her in the background atleast once. Like have her play tambourine or something then Musa sing with her electric guitar
@@KagisoMagwatii agree , musa is the fairy of music who always dreamed of being a musician she should be the leader of the Band not Bloom, and this is coming from Someone who loves bloom
Edit: also Sorry for my grammar english is not my First language
Bloom is an attention seeker. She wants to be involved in every single things. Although she's the main character she's my least favorite of them all. She shouldn't even be the main character. They all should. That's why the show is called winx club and not Bloom's club
@Mariah10You’ve got it all wrong it’s just that the writers ruined Bloom after season 4.
Riven character development went up, down right left, it's a maze, its so confusing, anyways, Musa deserves some love and respect, they did her dirty with the singer career that she worked so hard for turned into a band with bloom as a sing lead
I've always hated how she got robbed from being the main singer. I stopped watching Winx Club after season 4. All nonsense scripts started since season 5.
Musa and Tecna were always my favorites, and when they were starting to get some highlight moments, the next scene they get ghosted or shade. I don't have faith on that reboot tbh...
Great editing btw. ❤
@@Gadelyva Blame Nickelodeon for making it an American co-production.
@Gadelyva yea but the whole “Bloom being the main singer” started in season 4 too during the competition episode. But season 5 is not bad idk why people say it is. It WAY better than season 6 and 7, like at least it was entertaining and we go Harmonix
@@Alicia_joi23 yeah I agree and honestly imo, in some ways season 5 is way better than season 4, I don’t get why people favor this season so much as it mostly has the problems the newer seasons would have
@Alicia_joi23 I never said season 4 was any better or favouring it... In fact, I think it has many flaws, like that thing of Bloom being the main singer. Besides, I always hated what they did to Nabu...
I personally don't like many things from season 5. Harmonix is beautiful, but it's not a season for me, and if y'all enjoy it, that's cool. That's it.
@@Gadelyvaseason 4 the script became weirdly childish , I only watch it cause musa breaks up w riven and im here for the drama
I stand by the fact that if they actually developed Musa and Riven’s relationship and gave Riven the obvious character development he needed to be a better person (after seasons 1-3 where they actually did try developing him), their relationship progression would have writing wise been THE BEST in the whole show. Not to mention Riven’s character would have been one of the best written among the specialists, if they made him actually grow to be a better person.
I always wanted to see Musa use her Sirenix wish on later seasons for a certain situtation. At least that would make up for the mess they did with the season 5
I will NEVER forget that contest in World of Winx in french dub when Bloom sang in WoW emission (the episode when she gets fired in the end) and she sings using Musa's VA voice 🥲
No WAY they did that omfg-
Absolutely diabolical.
that's evil
NAH.... 💀
Bro I was pissed AF when they did that just WHYY??!?!!
I have an unpopular opinion but in the Rivusa relationship, Musa is ALSO problematic! I tend to separate seasons 1-3 from the rest because season 4 added a lot of the hate everyone has for Riven. But here's the thing: Musa never tried to understand Riven's personality, she always try to change him. I mean Riven is clearly a complicated personality. He started as a mysoginist character (due to her mother abandoning him as a child, a true storyline that was sadly never explained in the show but revealed in the website around 2007) but started to realise at the end of season 1 he was in the wrong and tried to get better.
But even after it, he's not someone who speak a lot about his emotions. And Musa need someone who is more open about his emotions, so she's always angry at him for being cold. But the worst she did to me was in season 3. They had a very small arguing in episode 9 because Riven told Bloom that if Sky didn't want to talk to her, she'll has to accept it. Which was kinda cold, but understandable from Riven perspective. But it made Musa angry. And for the rest of the season, Musa was still angry at him for nothing. And the ONLY moment she started to be nice again with him, was when Riven showed jealousy in front of Nabu!!! Because Riven finally showed his emotions. But still, this is where I realise that Musa has toxic traits too
I 100% agree that Musa makes veeery questionable decisions in that relationship
@@WinxClubNewsflashput a clip of someone cursing at the end of the video, so people will be able to see the comments amd it won't be considered a kidshow
Ohhhh i hated this Arcaina so much for what she did to musa in season 3 ...
Not only she gave her the WORST dilemma
Not only she played with her emotions and manipulated her
She also didnt bring her mother back or at least SOMETHING from her(a necklace or something )...
I felt so bad for my fav winx fairy istg this moment needs to be recognised more
I agree. It would be more fair if Musa had to give up her voice. It's something very important for her too, just as beauty is for Stella and emotions are for Tecna.
@@danaiarseniadi2477 not only that for tecna and stella it's a win win situation but for musa WTH SO YOUR SAYING THAT IF I CHOOSE THE PATH TO BE MY MOTHER I WOULD GET HER BACK OR WOULD I BE DEAD.....LIKE ARCAINIA WTH
I agree too! Something should have been given back. I don’t like characters being brought up back from the dead which is good that seasons 1-3 didn’t try to do. Although Musa deserved something in return. Maybe like a message from her mother from the Afterlife would have been nice.
@@Rio-chiiwe think exactly alike, Musa losing her voice for the water stars makes more sense to me
She is icon. But our queen being robbed like tecna, flora, aisha and others😭
3:49 She knows the lyrics and when to sing because she is a Guardian Fairy of Music, she can hear the music to people's hearts and can even sing them. One To One could also be Riven's heart's music he desires, so that's why I think she knew the lyrics and when to sing.
That is correct, but if the writers followed that logic, she would have known since the beginning about that song from Riven's heart
@@L-Archiviowell maybe Riven has a way of cloaking it because he knows she knows how to sense it? I mean it would make sense that even if Musa was aware of it, he'd try to hide it somehow even deep deep within his mind because Riven didn't want the surprise spoiled.
@@Superlad9494 i don't think riven is that intelligent honestly 😂
@L-Archivio well he is a bit of a flat note
It would be perfect if the writers actually remembered that and we didn't just have to guess it 😭
Cus why would she be so heartbroken with Riven seemingly hanging out with another girl (in S5Ep19) if she knew that the song in his heart was for her (Musa)?
The concert will never be tolerated, the Bloom privilege is OUTRAGEOUS
I know 😭🖐
You're so right.. What the heck?! How could they slander her like this? Musa deserved more, just as Tecna..
Saying as a Bloom kin here.
Bloom be like: I like stealing peoples screentimes:3
no Speedix sequence for Musa 😭
TRUE
Frrrrrrr like rainbow did her dirty😭😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏
@@darkbloom6276 She did get cheated out of detailed transformation sequence.
Musa has 3 Bloomix spells, everyone always forgets about Decibel Barrier
I'm so glad she at least uses it in the series! But I swear she never actually calls out its name-
Musa’s An icon. She was robbed by these EXACT things.
Bloom, you should learn that sharing is caring. Share your screen time with Musa And Tecna :)
7:15 That's the most savage line I've ever heard in my life , Musa wasn't burned she was VAPORIZED
Not to mention when Stella exaggerated about Musa's love story with Riven and said he was interested in Darcy not her while she was studying for an exam and made her run away crying and when the latter was "spying" Darcy being with Riven and Icy told her that Riven found her insignificant which angered her so much that she slapped her and Icy summoned all the other witches to give her a lesson and started chasing her
And then all the witches followed her cause she slapped Icy 🥶. That was the worst episode for Musa
@@adjadenisedoumbia9305 yep, not to mention when Darcy was about to squash her in the battle
@@adjadenisedoumbia9305 oh and Riven even refused to help her while she was being chased by the witches
@@sprixies7320 yeah, that was such a traumatic episode 💀😂
@@adjadenisedoumbia9305 yeah poor Musa
Her not ending up with Jared was so crazy to me, and him not coming back was even crazier
We never saw her use her sirenix wish😔
Musa: You used your Sirenix wish to bring back your dead sister who gave her life to save the Magic dimension, I never used my Sirenix to bring back my dead mom, That doesn’t seem fair.
@voltingmaster5458 musa vision
she used sirenix wish to snatch bloom and daphne wigs
@@itsOzitegacha and rivon
Is it safe to assume that Ignio hates Musa. Musa: Fairy of being robbed, toxic relationships, and dead parents
Musa is a very important character to me. She encouraged me to not abandon singing even if people told me that I was bad. I sang Winx Club songs with joy for many years, until I actually became good. So I was always extremely sad when the writers deprived her of something, be it screen time, a healthy relationship, the leader position in the band, a Syrenix wish, etc. However, I enjoyed the plot line where she got her voice stolen because it was thrilling for me (at least, when I was a kid). I just knew that her voice was very important for her, so the threat had more impact to me.
And since I've mentioned this topic: I think it would be fairer if, in the Water Stars episode, Arcadia forced Musa to choose between her voice and the Water Stars. Just think: it's an important part of Musa, just as beauty is for Stella and emotions for Tecna, and it can be returned, unlike her mother.
jobless in the thumbnail is crazy work 😭😭😭
#JUSTICE4MUSA.
hopefully she'll be a better character in the reboot 😭❤
Literally why I pretend season 8 never existed… The ENDING FOR MUSA AND RIVER’S RELATIONSHIP WAS LONG DUE BUT THEN THEY GET BACK TOGETHER FOR THE NEXT SEASON!?
Tecna not even getting involved in the real life series is diabolical too.
And the fact Musa was Inginio's favorite, yet they made her suffer tge most is crazy to me
I always assumed Flora was his favourite. All I know is Musa and Iginio have the same birthday!
@@WinxClubNewsflash i remember reading somewhere that Musa is his favorite and his wife's favorite is Flora (which is also my favorite)
Telling the fairy of MUSIC that she could have SANG BETTER......... is CRAZY WORK- Riven is one piece of work I swear-
I need a video with Tecna too...both girls really deserve better!
They did one!
Haha this is amazing, Musa deserved better! Im obsessed with the editing and comments!✨
Even as a kid it would annoy me how the writers would make it all about Bloom in the later seasons and push the other girls out of focus. They made her such a Mary Sue bruh. Musa deserved to be the lead singer :(
Before the comment section disappears let me just say that i really couldn't care much for the band. I'm glad they didnt accept the contract. I think Musa should've been a solo act. And i dont see how they could have managed a band and a contract with their roles as you know, guardian fairies, (attracting dangers like Diana, imagine how much disruption that caused to their audience, just because no one was injured doesn't mean an average person would be okay with that), half of them princesses with royal training to undergo if they ever get out of Alfea and so on.
And they still kept together as a band and did concetts anyway so no loss. That dream seemed contrived for all of them except Musa anyway, who really should've aimed for the magic dimension instead of Earth.
Phew that was long. But i got it off my chest. Thanks for reading!
I know that Musa's name is supposed to be taken from music, but musa is also the scientific name for banana
Sometimes it's best to not stay in a group where you're sidelined this hard.. Musa should've focused on her career w Jason, that group that was honestly holding her back.
The fact that Bloom basically got a story rewrite so she can bring back Daphne, we all know she wss dead, but then she was cursed. Yet Musa cant get her mom.back or even use her Sirenix wish to maybe see her
fun fact, the weather pixie had her own introduction episode in pop pixie (a winx club side series that was on netflix) so she didn’t join the pixies until later, (she was actually with them for that long but rainbow or nickelodeon didn’t use her until years later) hence why she isn’t seen in the early episodes
I will never get over the fact that she's not the leading singer in the band. It's simply unacceptable
It's funny how they have at least twi singers in s4 but musa and bloom get voiced by the same person
Editing of this video is so iconic you fed us with so much iconic memes 🤩
9:36 The editing was impeccable
Now do one for everytime Flora is mistreated because there is alot, being a punching bag and probably among other things like storylines.
Sadly I think I've teased Flora enough, I already have the video of her dying 81 times!! 😭
Winx club newsflash the Queen of getting the comment section down as soon as youtube see’s that its also made for kids.
@@de4d_yi8sh OH MY GODDDDD
she gets the comment section down? I used to think TH-cam did that.
@ youtube does that
@@WinxClubNewsflashyou should insert a clip of someone cursing at the end of the video so that it doesn't get taken down.
4:38 “GET OUT”
Musa's my favorite Winx Club member 💖 why do they do her so dirty!!!😢 (Also thanks for fixing the season 8 art style)
Musa and Riven had their relationship up and down in Season 3, Season 4 and now in Season 6 Riven have been very obesses with his training that he had been ignoring Musa a lot which made her sad.
6:55 This sudden stringy sound effect when it wwas so emotional before and the commentary made me laugh out loud 😭😭😭
Musa and Techna are the middle children…. Always forgottten
Being here before TH-cam marks this as made for kids feels refreshing
While I agree with this video, she got more interesting as a character after season 2. I fell in love with her design and personality, especially in S5
I agree, I love that she had her sassyness in season 5 and love how season 4 tried to advance her dream of being a musician and she’s the 4th winx to have a backstory(the first 3 being bloom Stella and Aisha )
Musa was my favourite character as kid, I can’t believe this happened to her as I stopped watching at some point as I grew up 😭
Musa who fulfill her wish to be singer like her mother but her wish was too many obstacles and lost her voice in the end
They really did her so dirty 😭
8:59 I love how in Brazilian dubbing this didn't happen, But in compensation we didn't win verse 2 of the song they sing in this episode, they just reused the first one
Years later, i realized both my fav fairies (Tecna and Musa) were done SO dirty by the writers man 😭
The ,,not robery yet'' made me laugh so hard i couldnt stop for minutes XD
Girl the screams I scrumpt to this 😂😂😂😂
Made my day with the Winx Content
Musa knows it's not okay to bring back her mom but she's fine with Bloom bringing back her sister and Aisha her cousin?
I think it was explained that Daphne wasn't technically dead. Meaning she didn't naturally die. Her consciousness was still present and active but the same can't be said for Lisa's mom
@@anjaneilennis881 She died, but Nickelodeon changed it to curse.
I remember as a kid when I 1st started watching the series that Musa was my automatic fav along with Flora...its sad to know her character's treatment only got continuously worse 😢
This was funny, true, and sad, all at the same time thanks for making this you really made this enjoyable to watch I was laughing so hard on some parts. I love her a lot she’s honestly the best character in the series and when her pixie changed in season 6 I was so mad like seriously her original pixie was like such a good match for her. It so didn’t make sense
What happened to Tecna's weave in those Harmonix dolls 😭
She stole Roxy's weave and had two seconds to make a good lace front.
WTF DID THEY JUST REPLACED MUSA AND TECNA'S ORIGINAL PIXIES!!!!!😭😭😭 THEY HAD THE SAME MIND/SENSE OF MAGIC!!!! MUSA DESERVES MORE THAN SUFFERING FROM THE CONSEQUENCES THAT THE ANIMATERS ARE SOO EVIL
2:32 can this be considered grooming (yes I do know musa is a adult here but it’s still wired she’s like 18 while the producer is like 40)
I mean they're both adults but it still feels...... wrong. Like Jason doesn't look 40,he's like in his 30's or something but still I feel like she wasn't a FULL GROWN adult at the time,if she was in her mid 20's it'd be fine I guess but fine doesn't mean good.
Honestly I don't know what was going on with the Musa and Jason plotline, S4Ep15 always confuses me because of her being so upset that he was getting married?? I guess she was just going through a lot with Riven but I always remember her sadness was towards Jason and not Riven in that moment :/
Tecna my favorite
No. Jason never reciprocated musa's feelings as he was already engaged. Musa liked him but it stopped at that. Nothing more than a teenager havjng a small crush on an adult celeb 🤷🏾♀️
4:45 HE LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE TWINK
didn't every specialist look like a little twink in season 8 😭😭😭
2:09 not the musa laughing at herself XD
13:01 I think this is because without her voice she can only be her original and weakest form, the one in season 1, because they call out the specific transformation they want to use, I think that’s how they transform in each unique form
I've heard somewhere that Musa's voice was the source of her power, which also makes sense
@ oh yeah, that would make sense for the fairy of music
I need an Aishai and Techna version NOW. Due to Bloom being the MaIn ChArAcTeR they always brush aside old logic to make her even more overpowered and onky that applies to HER, the rest of the cast always forgets what they do in past seasons aswell.
Aisha and Musa are the most robbed in the series
I would say Flora is the most robbed as well. They barely do anything with her character. Like, Flora is my favorite Winx but do SOMETHING with her character other than making her the shy nature girl.
And Tecna too!
@@Rio-chii Eh, not really. They gave Tecna amazing powers, nice backstory, nice personality, a great boyfriend and is one of the most iconic fairies. I don't think Tecna is "robbed".
@@aquamarinequeen and we also got robbed of her nightmare in season 1 episode 16
@@aquamarinequeen I might be reaching here but isn’t it weird how the 3 POC in the group are consistently robbed and denied happiness. 🤔 just something to think about
I always hated how they made bloom be the lead singer in the band since Musa is literally the fairy of music smh
Musa in a nutshell:
"Like who could've seen that coming, like TO THE SURPRISE OF NOBODY!!" *insert Mr. Krabs face*
In all honesty, I wonder, if there's some vendetta against Musa inside Rainbow, given that they have that bias.
Also, ONORE NICKELODEON.
Musa was my choice since childhood and to be fair.Musa deserved better than just guitar
Riven: you could've sing a lot better
I SWEAR IF BLOOM, STELLA, TECNA, FLORA AND AISHA WERE THERE RIGHT NOW that's the last sentence we will ever here from him before his 💀💀 like why did rainbow decided to get rid of Nabu WHAT ABOUT RIVEN he has been toxic to her like the past decade in season 5 he does do something for once but in season 6 he is such a jerk like i swear
They killed our sweet boy, but left that garbage bag
@Than_rik FR
3:59 HELP 😭
7:08 This might be a little bit of a hot take, but I don't think Anik Matern is all that bad when voicing Musa. Sure, her voice doesn't match the character, considering Musa literally sounds like a 40 year old woman who smokes 5 packs of cigarettes a day, but at least she does a pretty decent job at her performance.
Now, I'm not gonna lie, Anik's performance felt pretty awkward, yet decent during season 3. (With the scene of Musa and her mother talking, serving as an example) BUT, I felt like she showed her true potential with season 4. Even though her performance was still a little bit awkward and stiff at some parts of season 4, it really felt much better than her season 3's performance. (An example being in season 4, episode 20, when she, Flora and Aisha were trapped in Diana's dungeon and Diana was gonna send her knight fairies to capture the other Winx, she really went on hard with the line “OUR FRIENDS WILL COME AND RESCUE US!" Honestly, I just really loved that yelling moment and the little groan she does after.)
It's quite sad that Cinelume didn't get the chance to dub the rest of the Winx seasons, cuz I would have liked to see how much her performance would improve. But either way, even though Anik is still on the bottom of my list for like Musa's voices, I feel like she still did a decent job at voicing her. (Musa)
Tbh lots of winx club characters deserved better either from the show/creators or from the fandom
Examples:
- Flora always felt underdeveloped for me. Even in earlier seasons ,it felt other girls had more going on than her(yep,even Tecna )
- Mirta in season 1 played big role but after that season,she slowly started to dissapearwhich is sad cause it would be interesting to see her more often
Riven in season 2 felt like he was starting to become a better person so the fact that it wasnt a case makes me mad
Oh and since this video is about Musa,I would like to point out that she is one of my favorite characters from winx club for a few reasoms:
- I have a soft spot for idols/singers in show cause it was once my dream + they are often a such sweet characters
- she reminds me of my mom. I wont go too deep into that due to privacy so the only thing I will tell is that just like Musa, my mom lost her mom when she was in her 20s (her mom had problems with heart) so..
- also Musa is a chinese character right? And I did heard people calling me a Mulan because of my apperance XD
12:23 She snatched her OWN wig off. lmao. I didn't even notice!!!
She has also been robbed of good voice actors anywhere except Nick
Really? Lisa Ortiz from 4kids wasn't good? I thought Lisa Ortiz was good and 4kids is also the only dub where they actually bother to let Musa sing all the songs all the time except for "Hero" where they have Brandon's v.a. sing (and you can tell by the lyrics it's Brandon's).
@@Superlad9494 Yeah, and the nick dub fit Musa so much just like how Stella Rai va match her
@@Alicia_joi23 but they rarely let Romi sing just like most dubs including the original Italian doesn't even let Domitilla D'Amico sing. If you have someone playing Musa, you should let them sing. That is one thing that 4kids actually got right!
@@Superlad9494 nah, she sounds annoying and bratty
@@Superlad9494what if they can't sing💀💀😭
Bloom should learn to share the screen time
Is the writers fault
Why would she, she's the maaaaaaaaaaiiiiiin character.
🙄😒😤
@@Rosen404but she doesn’t need to be on the screen 24/7 😂😂
You’re so funny I enjoy watching your videos ❤
I could watch your vids 24/7, I just love your editing 😭💙 10:25 THE KAMALA LAUGH LMFAOOOO
Thank you so much legend
The writers could have made musa the lead singer
They never gave us the information that any of the girls could play an instrument 😭💀 why do her dirty
6:54 yeah this is why I prefer the nick dub. For 3 and 4
13:52 if they’re not sold and why do they exist?
Please do more of these! I love watching them!!
Okey 3:33 what were the writers actually thinking when they wrote this script for Flora 😭 It feels sooooo out of character Tecna should've had that line instead
Ironically I actually find it really in-character for her. Flora has always been that mom friend who can actually get aggressive if she feels those she cares about are being hurt so it makes sense to me lmfao plus this is the season with the Krystal drama so I'll afford the writers some credit and say it's consistent she'd be jumpy at cheating with that happening in her life
4:54 why does Riven look so babygirl😂
musa was my favorite from winx, but i stopped watching so i never realized they were THIS bad to her
8:20 no hes just a ho-boe without the boe
Lmao 🤣
PFFFTT
14:38 my teacher in 2020, in the class zoom meeting after she gets muted for the 8877727772818273746666th time
My fav winx girlie didnt even had her own Mythix solo mission 🤧🥲
1:26 - This angle for Aisha!!!❤❤ She is in her element 😂😂 - that bubblegum pink lipstick always does it for me!
1:35 Lol. Look at Stella's hair. There should be empty space between her pigtails, but it's colored yellow.
this video made me incredibly sad
The thing with Cherie is that after the series pop pixie everything changed. Somehow after season 5 she was assigned as Musa's pixie just bc they look similar!