Is there something about being a mage that makes you a passive aggressive bitch? You know it applies to Dorian, who I adore, it damn well applies to Anders and don’t even get me going on Morrigan
Solas is often seen as the only open minded person in a world of close-minded people. But, I see him as still mentally living in a world long gone. Maybe the interactions between spirits and mortals were safer before the Veil. But, in the current era, we have seen a minuscule percentage of interactions between spirits and mortals end in anything other than catastrophe for either the spirit or the mortal. Or both. Cole is the most prominent example of a positive interaction, and that's only because of the bizarre circumstances of his existence. Hell, he WAS at one point a demon (seemingly).
Cole is a Justice who believed until the end. Btw that's exactly the point,he's extremely open minded but not in an absolute,true possibility would come by taking all the knowledge and opinions of others and combining them in an ordered mixture,Solas never do that,he has his opinion and he's sure of it(that's the first misstep to be close minded,never doubting your idels).
@@desireescognamiglio3648 I'm pretty sure it's outright stated at some point that Cole was Compassion. Either way, both seem to be highly likely to become Rage demons. Which, I think Cole was when he was killing people in his backstory.
i mean if you notice really hard trough many playthroughs he's the most racists of them all, he claims every other race that it's not his( old elvhen not elven) is shit, he wants to eradicate all just for his decisions on a stubborn cling of a past only he says is cooler he's deciding for all the world without thinking of other ways out of guilt/pride i love the guy but he's pretty foolish for all the intelligence in him
@@neusrodriguez481 intelligence fails when desperation chokes you. Solas is not a fool, but he's desperate, thus hasty, hotheaded and extremely stubborn. His arrogance and "racism" are a defence mechanism - partially, if not mostly. He created the Veil thinking, that his people would be finally free, and one day he'd wake up to see it. He woke up an saw this. His nation stagnated into something even worse. The world forgot what it originally was, what it should be, it became "tranquiled", hollow and dead. What once was his home, now infested with mortals - primitive, low, ignorant - who are destroying the last remnants of it. And all of this, every single thing - is HIS doing. A consequence of HIS decision. This is not something so easily comprehended and accepted. The *terror* of such realization destroys. The *guilt* eats away like acid. Any mind would try to build a wall of self-lies to keep itself from madness. This is how everyone works, even you and me. Solas dessosiates himself from this new world. Mortals? Born without strong connection to the Fade? They are already tranquiled, they're not even real people. Elves? They're not, they couldn't even keep their nation and culture, and preserved only poisoned lies. Not even ghosts of what they should be, a mockery of everything he struggled for. Rare mages, locked up in prisons? Madness. Ah yes, "mages" - they have no idea of what magic actually is and are happy about it. Pathetic. Wrong. and so on, so on... He blames everyone around for loosing their essence, because it's less painful than to take actual responsibility for the world's downfall. He blames everyone for being a short-minded parody on people, because he's going to kill them, and it feels better to commit an act of mercy than another genocide. He argues much with Vivienne but gives no real answers to the problems they discuss, because he has none. He has no answers for others and no answers for himself. Basically, he's nothing more than a very lost and scared, half-broken man, who has no idea what to do, but knows for sure he must do something, now. Solas takes almost no time to investigate, think things through and plan his actions (the conclave went soooo well he had to get stuck in the Inquisition; not that he didn't find a way to benefit from it, but still). More to it, Solas doesn't take his time to simply mourn. To recover from his loss. Thus, he's trying to fix the broken world with broken hands, which obviously makes no sense and leads to catastrophe, but... For some reason he just doesn't let himself take a break and breathe. Maybe he's afraid he'd doubt his means and goals and give up? Anyway, something makes him rush forward without stopping and looking around. Only in the Inquisition he learns, or rather, accepts that modern people ARE people, and this wrong world still has something valuable to it. And yet, refuses to stop and think. Ooooof, this is not ending well... It's... a lot of words I've thrown here, and still, it's not it. Solas is complicated as hell😳 Who wanted a good antagonist? Well, I hope those people are satisfied, because I definitely am, though my brain is steaming. Best reason to attend the Solavellan torture chamber, though: deeeeeetales🥴
@@АлександрИВанов-ж5н4ь yeah, demons too and the best part it gets stronger the more mana the target has. By this point I'm convinced half the reason The Warden wasn't our Warden-Commander is because that psycho would've just Mana Clashed the Nightmare Demon like it was nothing.
They're just super suspicious of what the other represents. If you take viv out with cole he starts describing a memory of viv's where she almost got possessed or did briefly and had to convince the templars at her tower not to kill her. Its a small detail but it made me empathize with viv's love of rules. Solas is from a time there was no veil. The idea of magic being kept to towers is laughably absurd.
In a way solas has a point. Mages are taught from day 1 that they're always under threat of demons. That demons want to kill or possess them. So when they enter the harrowing, they only encounter demons because they're expecting demons where if they instead learned more about spirits and balance they wouldn't need to worry
Yeah, Solas did explain that Fade reflects world as person who enters it expect it to be. That's why he can make friends with spirits as he sees their true nature. It's only natural that Viviene is cautious about the demons because the Circles really didn't teach anything else.
In this world Solas knows magic better then anyone, he comes from a time when magic was as natural as breathing. Vivienne is like a frog at the bottom of a well compared to him in terms of magic spirits and the fade. A mere mortal so to say...
everyone on here saying who their favorite mage is while i just like them all and they all have points and flaws in their arguments and yes, i did romance solas too (as well as dorian but solas is my canon because i like that inquisitor and it makes things more interesting)
@@vfrmtheo300 Ehh it depends, knight enchanter is tanky but honestly does little for nuking outside of guard and barrier breaking. Rift mage is amazing at cc and can deal a lot of damage to weakened enemies, paired with Templar and most enemies will have weakness on them anyway (Demon slaying also becomes a breeze with this combo). Necro is good at utility, and also has decent damage, aside from dealing additional damage to panicked enemies, walking bomb deals stupid amounts of spirit damage which most enemies don't really have a resistance to, only issue is that Necros best ability Horror, is also their worst ability.
I have a hard time deciding who I like more, Viv or Dorian, but I think Viv is my favorite character in Inquisition, lol. Dorian a close second, and about Solas, well, I hope I can kick his annoying persona and his egghead in DA4. Still, I like to use the three of them gameplay wise.
@@youngarchivest9092 They're on nearly every one of these videos sucking off Viv and smack talking Solas every chance they get. They have a rather unhealthy obsession...
@@SeventhheavenDK No, most people don't understand how spirits and demons work. In arrogance, they conjure their methods for dealing with the drawbacks instead of seeking to understand more. Vivienne definitely isn't in the right. She is just a master in the accepted, but limited, theory of magic and the fade.
@@leone41ll What. She is right though. Demons are dangerous. In all 3 games we have never had any interactions with demons that ended well. And her whole "magic is dangerous and should be controlled" thing is completely on the nail with Solas. Since he caused all this shit in the first place and now wants to undo his mistake and destroy the world.
@@ninethreefivesix You just proved my point. Your statement doesn't distinguish between demons and spirits. Magic is dangerous, just as much a sword, trebuchet, or fire is dangerous. It is lack of true understanding/respect of their nature that makes them dangerous. Otherwise, incredibly useful. Fire can save your life (cauterize), keep you warm and feed you. But it can also kill you horrifically if you don't understand it's nature.
Battle of the passive aggressives.
+YorkJonhson I guess you can't beat Solas.
the way solas phrased that last statement was the nicest way of calling vivienne a bitch
Well....we're going to have to find a way.
YorkJonhson this is the only necessary comment
Is there something about being a mage that makes you a passive aggressive bitch? You know it applies to Dorian, who I adore, it damn well applies to Anders and don’t even get me going on Morrigan
Caaan you feel the saaalt toniiight~
i love having an all mage party bc everyone just sasses the fuck out of each other.
they also kill dragons very quickly
Solas is often seen as the only open minded person in a world of close-minded people. But, I see him as still mentally living in a world long gone. Maybe the interactions between spirits and mortals were safer before the Veil. But, in the current era, we have seen a minuscule percentage of interactions between spirits and mortals end in anything other than catastrophe for either the spirit or the mortal. Or both.
Cole is the most prominent example of a positive interaction, and that's only because of the bizarre circumstances of his existence. Hell, he WAS at one point a demon (seemingly).
Cole is a Justice who believed until the end.
Btw that's exactly the point,he's extremely open minded but not in an absolute,true possibility would come by taking all the knowledge and opinions of others and combining them in an ordered mixture,Solas never do that,he has his opinion and he's sure of it(that's the first misstep to be close minded,never doubting your idels).
@@desireescognamiglio3648 I'm pretty sure it's outright stated at some point that Cole was Compassion. Either way, both seem to be highly likely to become Rage demons. Which, I think Cole was when he was killing people in his backstory.
@@TheDisarminghinkle Sorry I didn't mean that both were justice spirits but only that they were both spirits and Cole seemed more controlled to me.
i mean if you notice really hard trough many playthroughs he's the most racists of them all, he claims every other race that it's not his( old elvhen not elven) is shit, he wants to eradicate all just for his decisions on a stubborn cling of a past only he says is cooler
he's deciding for all the world without thinking of other ways out of guilt/pride i love the guy but he's pretty foolish for all the intelligence in him
@@neusrodriguez481 intelligence fails when desperation chokes you. Solas is not a fool, but he's desperate, thus hasty, hotheaded and extremely stubborn. His arrogance and "racism" are a defence mechanism - partially, if not mostly.
He created the Veil thinking, that his people would be finally free, and one day he'd wake up to see it.
He woke up an saw this. His nation stagnated into something even worse. The world forgot what it originally was, what it should be, it became "tranquiled", hollow and dead. What once was his home, now infested with mortals - primitive, low, ignorant - who are destroying the last remnants of it.
And all of this, every single thing - is HIS doing. A consequence of HIS decision. This is not something so easily comprehended and accepted. The *terror* of such realization destroys. The *guilt* eats away like acid. Any mind would try to build a wall of self-lies to keep itself from madness. This is how everyone works, even you and me.
Solas dessosiates himself from this new world. Mortals? Born without strong connection to the Fade? They are already tranquiled, they're not even real people. Elves? They're not, they couldn't even keep their nation and culture, and preserved only poisoned lies. Not even ghosts of what they should be, a mockery of everything he struggled for. Rare mages, locked up in prisons? Madness. Ah yes, "mages" - they have no idea of what magic actually is and are happy about it. Pathetic. Wrong. and so on, so on...
He blames everyone around for loosing their essence, because it's less painful than to take actual responsibility for the world's downfall. He blames everyone for being a short-minded parody on people, because he's going to kill them, and it feels better to commit an act of mercy than another genocide. He argues much with Vivienne but gives no real answers to the problems they discuss, because he has none.
He has no answers for others and no answers for himself. Basically, he's nothing more than a very lost and scared, half-broken man, who has no idea what to do, but knows for sure he must do something, now. Solas takes almost no time to investigate, think things through and plan his actions (the conclave went soooo well he had to get stuck in the Inquisition; not that he didn't find a way to benefit from it, but still). More to it, Solas doesn't take his time to simply mourn. To recover from his loss. Thus, he's trying to fix the broken world with broken hands, which obviously makes no sense and leads to catastrophe, but... For some reason he just doesn't let himself take a break and breathe. Maybe he's afraid he'd doubt his means and goals and give up? Anyway, something makes him rush forward without stopping and looking around.
Only in the Inquisition he learns, or rather, accepts that modern people ARE people, and this wrong world still has something valuable to it. And yet, refuses to stop and think. Ooooof, this is not ending well...
It's... a lot of words I've thrown here, and still, it's not it. Solas is complicated as hell😳 Who wanted a good antagonist? Well, I hope those people are satisfied, because I definitely am, though my brain is steaming. Best reason to attend the Solavellan torture chamber, though: deeeeeetales🥴
The shade of it all
4 mages team?
_well, sure it's a blessing Mana Clash isn't anywhere near anymore..._
ah, I miss Mana Clash, delete every mana user in a huge radius with but a press of a button.
@@АлександрИВанов-ж5н4ь yeah, demons too and the best part it gets stronger the more mana the target has. By this point I'm convinced half the reason The Warden wasn't our Warden-Commander is because that psycho would've just Mana Clashed the Nightmare Demon like it was nothing.
So nice to see those two sweeties getting along so well ~ 💞
More like mutual “compliments”
at first i was like, "is this real? two condenscending personalities would compliment each other?" then i was like, "oh right, of course"
inquisitor: Y is the air salty? were not even near the coast.
You guys sure know how to bring down a mood.
A full team of mages lol
Does is not work for you?
Two knight enchanters, necromancer and rift mage, nothing can withstand that
Unless you have solid defence stats you're absolutely fucked without a warrior to tank the damage
@@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou 2 KE should be enough, especially with aggro belts and andraste sacrifice
@@shawnli9775 Yeah ,I suppose so.
If only Viv was there at the end of Trespasser and saw Solas. I wish she could’ve been humbled by it
Vivienne just couldn't help herself from saying "eggcelent" to Solas
They sound cordial, so why does it feel like they're about to stab each other?
They're just super suspicious of what the other represents.
If you take viv out with cole he starts describing a memory of viv's where she almost got possessed or did briefly and had to convince the templars at her tower not to kill her. Its a small detail but it made me empathize with viv's love of rules.
Solas is from a time there was no veil. The idea of magic being kept to towers is laughably absurd.
Because that is the game of the court darling. And they were all raised in it.
In a way solas has a point. Mages are taught from day 1 that they're always under threat of demons. That demons want to kill or possess them. So when they enter the harrowing, they only encounter demons because they're expecting demons where if they instead learned more about spirits and balance they wouldn't need to worry
Yeah, Solas did explain that Fade reflects world as person who enters it expect it to be. That's why he can make friends with spirits as he sees their true nature. It's only natural that Viviene is cautious about the demons because the Circles really didn't teach anything else.
@Andy Alvarez Well let's be fair, A LOT of shit went wrong in Kirkwall
@@magicrainbowkitties1023Back to Kirkwall politics lol
Vivienne is biting more then she can chew in these banters with Solas.
In this world Solas knows magic better then anyone, he comes from a time when magic was as natural as breathing. Vivienne is like a frog at the bottom of a well compared to him in terms of magic spirits and the fade. A mere mortal so to say...
Mooooom, can you and Dad stop arguing?
everyone on here saying who their favorite mage is while i just like them all
and they all have points and flaws in their arguments
and yes, i did romance solas too (as well as dorian but solas is my canon because i like that inquisitor and it makes things more interesting)
“compliments”
Of all mages I prefer Dorian, but between Solas and Vivienne I prefer solas in every way
Sucks that vivienne has the best spec because I hate taking her with me
@@vfrmtheo300 Ehh it depends, knight enchanter is tanky but honestly does little for nuking outside of guard and barrier breaking. Rift mage is amazing at cc and can deal a lot of damage to weakened enemies, paired with Templar and most enemies will have weakness on them anyway (Demon slaying also becomes a breeze with this combo). Necro is good at utility, and also has decent damage, aside from dealing additional damage to panicked enemies, walking bomb deals stupid amounts of spirit damage which most enemies don't really have a resistance to, only issue is that Necros best ability Horror, is also their worst ability.
damn in a full mage party too
Backhanded compliments
"compliments"
the only reason I recruit her is to piss her off with my choices
I have a hard time deciding who I like more, Viv or Dorian, but I think Viv is my favorite character in Inquisition, lol. Dorian a close second, and about Solas, well, I hope I can kick his annoying persona and his egghead in DA4.
Still, I like to use the three of them gameplay wise.
How can you like Vivienne? She is smug, arrogant and close minded. She talks down to everyone that is not her social equal or higher.
@@youngarchivest9092 They're on nearly every one of these videos sucking off Viv and smack talking Solas every chance they get.
They have a rather unhealthy obsession...
Why is your inq so tall?
lol, I can see what you mean but it's an optical illusion. She looks tall because we're standing on uneven ground.
compliments? from edgy teenagers perhaps
I don't particularly like Solas, buuuuuuuuut since I hate Vivienne with a passion, I can't get enough of him schooling her ass.
Schooling? Lol, I don't think so. Viv is the right one here, Solas fails to realize that this is not the world he once knew.
It's crazy how Vivienne is right about the mages and she want to save the world, all this wrapped in a bitchy personality hilarious.
@@SeventhheavenDK No, most people don't understand how spirits and demons work.
In arrogance, they conjure their methods for dealing with the drawbacks instead of seeking to understand more.
Vivienne definitely isn't in the right. She is just a master in the accepted, but limited, theory of magic and the fade.
@@leone41ll What. She is right though. Demons are dangerous. In all 3 games we have never had any interactions with demons that ended well. And her whole "magic is dangerous and should be controlled" thing is completely on the nail with Solas. Since he caused all this shit in the first place and now wants to undo his mistake and destroy the world.
@@ninethreefivesix
You just proved my point. Your statement doesn't distinguish between demons and spirits.
Magic is dangerous, just as much a sword, trebuchet, or fire is dangerous. It is lack of true understanding/respect of their nature that makes them dangerous. Otherwise, incredibly useful.
Fire can save your life (cauterize), keep you warm and feed you. But it can also kill you horrifically if you don't understand it's nature.