If its sharp enough you usually do better by hard braking to initiate rotation, but if its not sharp enough to need to brake then you usually dont need to drift. You're probably right but its very rare that drifting is faster than not.
I'm trying to learn the concept of steering with the rear wheels. I find it really difficult. I either go straight or sliding like the guy in this clip
This depends on the corner, but is true a lot of the time. Sometimes you want to carry as much speed as possible on a turn because other will slow down there andlose time but you reach the corner first
The thing about karts, specially the low power ones, is that the fastest way always is by maintaining the most momentum possible, this can be obtained by rotating the kart before a corner and accelerating before the apex, it needs a lot of technique to be done properly and when someone is starting and tries it out, they usually go wide and start to drift because of the countersteer. In karting, oversteering is fast, but it needs to be controlled. Rotating and drifting is different.
except for 2 stroke. 9 year old me setting personal fl while mastering countersteering on 60cc lke engine tonykart. i slided along some corners and helped me forcing the kart into my trajectories.
A tactic i think is good is focus on the longer straight. Brake onto a higher speed section early but late for a slower speed section. This might not work but overtakes are easier at a higher speed section. Also try to brake early when on the outside incase they go for a dive bomb or out brake themself.
Technically it all depends on just how tight and long the corner is, if it’s a 180° that’s really short, hard braking to initiate a “drift” is way faster than going slow around the same corner. And then on the contrary a long 180° corner (like in the video) requires you to be smooth and precise in your turning to conserve speed, whereas drifting in that situation would lose you a lot of time. it’s really just about finding the right way to corner dependant on the type of corner, only using 1 cornering method will not work for every corner, especially not in karting where maintaining speed is of the utmost importance. On an important note i’m not saying drifting is good, it loses you time, i’m saying hard braking to initiate rotation, similar to a drift but not actually, initiating rotation just means getting the kart spun quicker than just slowly turning, can gain you time on really short corners.
unless u nees to plan for the next 2~3 thight corner My local track last 2 corners are crucial, like a shape of square off small letter b withreally tight hair pin Get as much speed from the straight, flick it into a drift , try to get as far left from before taking the hair pin try to get the parabolic cornering at maxspeed , 80% of driver didn't know how to link up these 2 turns and ended up going wide when exiting the hairpin If they could link up everything, they can link the hairpin with the 1st and 2nd turn without edjusting the steering on perfect line No brakes link multiple turns into 1 massive smooth corner
In pro karting u want to flick it in to a corner and keep the wheel straight going round. The flick will get u pointed in the right direction to go round and the u only have to do a few very small corrections. I know this cus I watched super gt. Watch him too😊😊😊
If you can balance the drift without spinning out, i believe its faster to cornering. Weight transfer concept. Exit speed can be improved if drifting is done right without oversteering
What you want to tell is that you pass the corners slowly. Karts have weak engines and acceleration would be very slow out. During the drift you use the momentum you've gained to sustain the drift and then gain it.
I’m sorry but this is not initial D. Drifting is very slow in rental karting as you lose all momentum and revs in the kart, it is much quicker to drive smoothly through the corner with minimal sliding.
I am fat so the only way to beat the track record was driving without brake not to loose speed. There are also two ways of drifting. #1 for Show, that's what most people do with lack of expirience. #2 to carrying as much speed as possible into & out of a corner. Slow in, fast out is only for beginners or track owners because he hate to buy expensive tyres.
But i remember an interview from i dont remember who, but they definitely f1 driver. Maybe George or even Alex. They basically said in karting, when turnz you just slightly drift so you dont need to break and you have sharper angle to turn
Some truth to this but I lock my breaks up to rotate the kart and it turns the kart so much faster than “not drifting”, u can drift, you just have to know how
I feel more if you get 2 to 5 hops it scrubs enough and still has a bit more speed through. Track I go to if u went bye this your get maybe 22.5 only way I've been able to get 22.1 when milking it tomuch hops and it's bad .
Went to an indoor place which allegedly has the worlds largest indoor track(s) the one had this banked open oval leading into a downhill spiral. Finally managed to get clear air and used the boost, had so much fkn speed I went down in continuous drift. I heard the steward say something after, I thought he was complimenting my swag until I enter the next hairpin and I see the dude behind me slam backwards into the wall. Fkn shit show that place was every driver was either Helen Keller or a NASCAR driver who isn’t fast just closes every window.
I’d probably still step it out on that corner just to get the car turned more quickly, carry more speed than you’re comfortable with (would blow the corner if you didn’t slide) and just commit like hell, stay hard in the throttle
It’s the same as losing speed. When cornering you need to keep the revs high. Sliding causes you to lose revs hence your kart will almost become stationary.
Drifting is a different sport to KARTING
Yeah but I went to 1st place when drifting
@@Saif018BeamNG because the people you were up against were bad.
@@Saif018BeamNGjust cuz ur opponents sucked dont mean ur good
okay god damn it’s been 2 months bro I was tired as hell
@@tasha6934bro what if the people the guy in the video was going against we’re just bad at drifting
I happened to go on a track, where drifting was the best way to get the best lap time out of final corner.
(It's an interior track)
If its sharp enough you usually do better by hard braking to initiate rotation, but if its not sharp enough to need to brake then you usually dont need to drift. You're probably right but its very rare that drifting is faster than not.
@@Xaiborg If the timing line is close enough then drifting can be faster (lap time wise”
@@Xaiborg that's because full on sideways drifting is meant to take us around the corner slower than ideal 😂.
Rotation and drifting are different
I have been to somewhere like that, it was called slideways gold coast. 3 levels and a small outdoor section. Tons of fun
You tellin' me I played all of that Mario Kart for nothing?
yup
@@ryfyyt171 well darn :(
😂 that was funny
Yeah. Now start playing Gran Turismo
@@trmbneBetter yet: rFactor 2005
Drifting allows you to gain mini turbos so its actually better!! (Bikes are better than karts since you can wheelie!!)
fr drifting is op bro just has a skill issue
Physics in karting does not let u win while deja vu-ing in races
This also depends on the surface used, wood or smooth cement floors actually benefit from you throwing the back out to get round a corner
Thats a rotation not a drift
thats power slide not drift
You throwing what?
Also most electric indoor carts immediatly throttle down the power when you start to drift so you lose even more time!
Tell that to RC drifters.
Most gas karts bog down too much too so you lose a lot of speed
Ive played too many kart racers, i already know you get a turbo booster after a drift.
I'm trying to learn the concept of steering with the rear wheels. I find it really difficult. I either go straight or sliding like the guy in this clip
How about slow down a bit
@@spritgmezer301 I'll give it a try when i can kart again
This depends on the corner, but is true a lot of the time. Sometimes you want to carry as much speed as possible on a turn because other will slow down there andlose time but you reach the corner first
if you drift ,drift entering and exit at half of the angle so you get your car lined up enough to not loose speed
Did 5 awesome drifts in go cart 10 minutes ago and I feel happy
Same same.
So I can't do it like Mario Kart or Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing?
Ehh, it figures.
On some turn drift does help to maintain Apex speed, since it's a go kart you don't lose too much momentum
Ur right but i think it depends on the corner how hard ur drifting too
The thing about karts, specially the low power ones, is that the fastest way always is by maintaining the most momentum possible, this can be obtained by rotating the kart before a corner and accelerating before the apex, it needs a lot of technique to be done properly and when someone is starting and tries it out, they usually go wide and start to drift because of the countersteer. In karting, oversteering is fast, but it needs to be controlled. Rotating and drifting is different.
except for 2 stroke. 9 year old me setting personal fl while mastering countersteering on 60cc lke engine tonykart. i slided along some corners and helped me forcing the kart into my trajectories.
A tactic i think is good is focus on the longer straight.
Brake onto a higher speed section early but late for a slower speed section.
This might not work but overtakes are easier at a higher speed section. Also try to brake early when on the outside incase they go for a dive bomb or out brake themself.
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Technically it all depends on just how tight and long the corner is, if it’s a 180° that’s really short, hard braking to initiate a “drift” is way faster than going slow around the same corner. And then on the contrary a long 180° corner (like in the video) requires you to be smooth and precise in your turning to conserve speed, whereas drifting in that situation would lose you a lot of time.
it’s really just about finding the right way to corner dependant on the type of corner, only using 1 cornering method will not work for every corner, especially not in karting where maintaining speed is of the utmost importance.
On an important note i’m not saying drifting is good, it loses you time, i’m saying hard braking to initiate rotation, similar to a drift but not actually, initiating rotation just means getting the kart spun quicker than just slowly turning, can gain you time on really short corners.
now everyone knows that you can make up the lost time by drifting with the mini turbo that charged up..
unless u nees to plan for the next 2~3 thight corner
My local track last 2 corners are crucial, like a shape of square off small letter b withreally tight hair pin
Get as much speed from the straight, flick it into a drift , try to get as far left from before taking the hair pin try to get the parabolic cornering at maxspeed , 80% of driver didn't know how to link up these 2 turns and ended up going wide when exiting the hairpin
If they could link up everything, they can link the hairpin with the 1st and 2nd turn without edjusting the steering on perfect line
No brakes link multiple turns into 1 massive smooth corner
Slow in and fast out works better with a low-angle four wheel slip, remember this folks.
Youre telling me friction cause loss of speed? Man i wish i knew this years ago.
Racing ❌
Physics ✔️
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He is on another level of drifting.
@@samyakchhajedis it one that defies the laws of physics
He literally gave the middle finger to physics 💀
That is dependant on the length of the straight after the corner. In the case of a long straight, then your tip makes sense
In pro karting u want to flick it in to a corner and keep the wheel straight going round. The flick will get u pointed in the right direction to go round and the u only have to do a few very small corrections. I know this cus I watched super gt. Watch him too😊😊😊
Good advice
So smooooth 😎👍🏾🏎️💨
I use this trick everytime in Indy,art racway when you go into the turn closer to the inside you have less track to cover
Nah, Mario Kart teaches that if you drift you get a miniturbo
If you can balance the drift without spinning out, i believe its faster to cornering. Weight transfer concept.
Exit speed can be improved if drifting is done right without oversteering
Weight Transfer is negligible with a kart, they're so light and the suspension if it even has one would have very little travel distance.
I drifted in a electric go kart it was faster then slowing down
It depends on the corner, or rather the next corner. If you're exiting into a straight, sure. If you're exiting into a hairpin, different approach.
for me i drift when i feel like it cuz i’m feeling it
I’ll see if this helps when I go karting tomorrow
Slow in and after turning the steering apply full speed and control your go kart
What you want to tell is that you pass the corners slowly. Karts have weak engines and acceleration would be very slow out. During the drift you use the momentum you've gained to sustain the drift and then gain it.
I’m sorry but this is not initial D. Drifting is very slow in rental karting as you lose all momentum and revs in the kart, it is much quicker to drive smoothly through the corner with minimal sliding.
essentially you need to get the apex, as closer as possible to the corner of the turn
Is it actually easier to know irl whether you can take that corner without oversteer compared to sim racing?
I like fast in and fast out
Last in first out always
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Woah, I never thought of that
its fun to do at a high speed corner with spectators in front just send it and try to stay in first 😂
In rental karts maybe😑, but in race karts going in sideways is the best, atleast for hairpins.
I am fat so the only way to beat the track record was driving without brake not to loose speed. There are also two ways of drifting. #1 for Show, that's what most people do with lack of expirience. #2 to carrying as much speed as possible into & out of a corner. Slow in, fast out is only for beginners or track owners because he hate to buy expensive tyres.
But i remember an interview from i dont remember who, but they definitely f1 driver. Maybe George or even Alex. They basically said in karting, when turnz you just slightly drift so you dont need to break and you have sharper angle to turn
It helps so much mane
drifting can work but not in lower power karts. the problem is that there just isn't enough power to make the really sticky tires slip
Using this in racing games lol
Nah imma drift deja vu!!!!!
"How ever if you drift to much" like bro that is called throttle control.
You should master that or don't drift
Yea when ı was racing at the 3rd time ı forgot to brake at the corner my back left tyre slipt then ı crashed at the tree.
Wow something that millions of people already knew. When it comes to racing. Regardless of the vehicle / animal
Most tracks, actually almost all tracks in my country are very thin, so doing something like this is impossible :D but in a real track yeah of course
I WANT TO GO KARTING SO BAD😭
Bro today i was drifting so much today and it was fun asf i wasnt doing it for the race i was doing it for fun
I just drift when I am driving for fun, but when Its seriously, than I make like you said.
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To add to this, you SHOULD be able to DRIFT a LITTLE using your THROTTLE to MAXIMIZE the speed you take into the corner.
@kartingtips I wanted to know when do you brake and how much brake pressure
Bro really said max verstappen
Suddenly I understand why my dad told me to “finish all your breaking before the turn” before I began my first race
In lower hp classes and rentals thats true. In higher power karts with you can trail the brake almost to the apex
That’s not what Keiichi teaches us
What if you combine both ways? 🤔
I dont wanna win i wanna drift
Some truth to this but I lock my breaks up to rotate the kart and it turns the kart so much faster than “not drifting”, u can drift, you just have to know how
SIGMA MALES: My way or the Highway.
And when your cornering you should only turn once
Its called “Apex”
I feel more if you get 2 to 5 hops it scrubs enough and still has a bit more speed through. Track I go to if u went bye this your get maybe 22.5 only way I've been able to get 22.1 when milking it tomuch hops and it's bad .
So we should focus on exit speed
Oversteer is faster.
Pointing the nose is faster is wide corners. Oversteer is faster in sharp ones
But drifting in a Kart is so amusing so i'll still do it
Is it wrong that I drift into really sharp hairpins but when ever it’s like a normal corner I just use grip driving?
or what i call use your rear wheels to turn
many pro uses their rear wheels in karting to turn its fucking awesome
Went to an indoor place which allegedly has the worlds largest indoor track(s) the one had this banked open oval leading into a downhill spiral. Finally managed to get clear air and used the boost, had so much fkn speed I went down in continuous drift. I heard the steward say something after, I thought he was complimenting my swag until I enter the next hairpin and I see the dude behind me slam backwards into the wall. Fkn shit show that place was every driver was either Helen Keller or a NASCAR driver who isn’t fast just closes every window.
I race on dirt so Drifting is good
Rotation isn’t sliding the kart a little bit during corner entry right
Dive bombin for live
What about dirt karts
What about four wheel drifting? (zero counter steer)
Mario Circuit 3 irl
Can you show us slip angle in karting?
can you do a back entry with a kart
I’d probably still step it out on that corner just to get the car turned more quickly, carry more speed than you’re comfortable with (would blow the corner if you didn’t slide) and just commit like hell, stay hard in the throttle
how to tackle curves in sequence
ima drift because its better than just tryna play like f1
Sergio perez driving style be like
Penalty, you're off the track
Or you could charge a mini turbo
Huh? Where’s the mini turbo
But is fun
What does it mean - "Lose momentum" - is it equal "lose speed?"
It’s the same as losing speed. When cornering you need to keep the revs high. Sliding causes you to lose revs hence your kart will almost become stationary.
what about slip angle?
drifting is more of a rally/touge thing
fast out like the line hitting walls??
should have been using an 86 if you didn't want to slow down
Is it possible to get u to make an “optimal” racing line for this villagio track?
Check out the Villagio Karting Track guide where I explained the best racing line!
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@@kartingtips thank you 🙏