Newbury Town Lock, disaster controlled, 2nd June 2K19_II
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2019
- Once again, a local hire boat (narrow beam narrowboat 'Green Woodpecker'), due to ignorance (lack of education), the crew opened the lower gate paddles too far too fast, producing a current, which nearly forced 'The Lucy Locket' from its mooring.
For someone used to boating at sea, "disasters" or "potential" disasters on a canal are a chuckle. 🤭
Everyone has to learn! We all had to learn, a good bystanderd would have helped and shown them the best way to do it instead of thinking he was BBC news and filming and criticising
Sadly stan is typical of the geriatric "experts" who infest the canals and think they are the fount of all knowledge when in fact they are nothing more than bigoted loudmouths.
Local citizen reporter.
When someone writes 2019 as 2K19, saving no keystrokes at all, you should know that this is going to be a pointless video. Nothing happens that warrants the description.
Clearly, you were wrong and this year I am using MMXXI.
We’d expect that.
all i saw was a bit of water movement , big deal
Try MMXX4 CE.
I’d have been perfectly happy with the hire boaters - you need to tie up better if you’re that close to the lock wash. Most of the bad tempers on the canal comes from people who should know better and many hirers I’ve met are better cruisers than privateers!
Let's hope you never hire a narrowboat.
@@stangreen2538 I don’t need to Stan - I’ve got a narrowboat! With plenty of time spent on the canals, I also know when to admit I’m at fault 🙂
@@christopherwright9437 I which case you would know all paddles (gate or ground) should be opened slowly.
@@stangreen2538 I do know that and that is fair comment - but to lambast obvious novices on TH-cam is unfair in the extreme.
All the negative comments that your clip has generated should at least tell you something. You are the type that nobody wants to
come across - never wrong, always better and never helpful - I hope our paths never cross.....
@@christopherwright9437 That's fine by me, you clearly have nothing of value we could discus.
Is there a library of annoying sound tracks or do contributors pinch their tunes from being on hold ?
Was Lucy Lockett left unattended on a lock landing then?
Nothing to see here Stan, keep movin' right along. The ONLY slight incompetence I saw, was on the part of the ascending boats crew. He was trying to hang on to a twenty ton boat just by standing on the towpath and pulling on the centre line. I'm pretty sure there was a ring there and he should have used it. Then, when the descending boat exited the lock, quite rightly leaving the gates open, the ascending crew walked away from the boat without a windlass so, much good he was going to be working the lock. The crew on board acted so slowly, they had to throw a windlass onto the bank. Always a good move. Apart from indecision and inexperience, mostly on the part of the ascending boat, I saw no "Disaster controlled".
Bless.
You can indeed pull in a 20 ton boat with only a centreline.
There are few rings to use especially round here:)
Oh jeah the disaster was him not turning into the river and going far left buy be controlled the mistake well.
No disaster noted !!!!!!!!!!!
Lucy Lockett should have been tied up properly.
That as well.
agreed...tie up properly and open the paddles...going at half drain just slows the lock speed down for everybody and creates queues
Another one that this hes the best canal boater going ,you had to learn at one time we all had to learn 🤡
I spent 2 years travelling the canals up and down the country and we liked the hire boaters. Especially on the double width locks. They usually have lots of eager crew to do the locks. I found the problem was with the shiny boat brigade who would normally appear at weekends and would have an attitude of self importance. Probably not as bad as the plastic boat owners on the Thames but still as annoying. I 've had a few near misses where shiny boats have forced their way through where I have had the right of way. Yeah. I'd rather have a hire boater near me.
Nothing wrong whatsoever IMO
Just read through these, Stan has no idea has he.
Clearly, more than you.
LOL
I suspect that the only near disaster here, was in Stans underpants as he feared the worst for the boat.
There really didn't appear to be any drama other than a slight drift out at the bow and certainly nothing close to a disaster.
It takes all sorts I suppose.
The hire boat users, opened the bottom gate paddles, ignorantly and incompetently far too swiftly, causing an excessive and dangerous current, forcing the moored boat adrift. Let's hope you are never, ever allowed to hire a narrowboat.
@@stangreen2538
I live on one Stan so I think that I can comment with some degree of authority.
The boat drifted slightly and didn't appear to be in any significant danger or risk thereof.
There is an onus of responsibility for operators of all craft to ensure that the are tied of adequately, which arguably that boat was, as it remained within reasonable bounds throughout. It seems somewhat naive of you to apportion blame as you have done.
You clearly thrive on melodrama.
Nothing to see here folks....
... Move along.
The users of hire-boat ‘Green Woodpecker’ acted irresponsibly, opening the gate paddles fully immediately, creating a fast current, rather than gradually, knowing there was a boat below (‘Lucy Locket’), which could have been forced from its mooring.
This video is a lesson for all hire boat companies, who should educated their users better, before there is a disaster.
@@stangreen2538 every one smashes the paddles up - doesn’t matter if it’s a hire boater or not. It’s the best part of going down.
There’s supposed to be a current. That’s literally how locks work. The Lucy was badly tied.
Everyone had to learn at one point jasper
@@sambelfie2693 I mean, sure, shit happens. It’s when you post angry videos to TH-cam proclaiming your expertise and blaming the wrong people that that excuse doesn’t really work, though.
@@JasperJanssen then jasper don't be such a bossy boots canal boater ,you had to learn
Current on a canal
The woman working the nearside gate was *from* the Lucy Locket.
Nothing to see here folks,move along,all's well that ended well...
Disaster only just controlled and no lesson learned.
@@stangreen2538
Just seems as though you were being a pathetic melt.
There's no requirement to open the lower gates gradually.
The boat moored should be tied securely.
Just seems like you're trying to shift some blame.
@@lewis72 Looks like you have already melted. All gate and ground paddles should be opened slowly. The hire boat was in the wrong. The lower boat could not have been held against that current.
@@stangreen2538
"All gate and ground paddles should be opened slowly. "
- Must be true if you say so.
"The lower boat could not have been held against that current."
- Of course it could.
Bit of an over dramatisation. Suggest that if you moor on a downstream lock landing you do it securely.
Gate paddles must always be opened slowly, to avoid pushing a boat off a mooring.
@skinjim123 Wrong, boats only need to be held, not 'moored securly'.
What's the problem with the zero on your keyboard? Your observations about the hire boaters is so ignorantly typical of many long-term users of the canals . . . they locked through perfectly competently; the Lucy crew were too complacent with their mooring technique especially so as they must have know there would be a strong wash from the emptying lock.
They relesed water through the gate paddle too quickly.
I have used that lock a few times on my boat i couldn't see a problem either . The Lucy was secure and wasn't going anywhere the only problem I've had there was the cross current below the lock from the river
just don't understand what the fuss is about. noone got injured and no damage.
Just a knowledgeable observation.
Er disaster? Did I miss something?
I was hoping the dreadful music would stop, it didn't!!
Lock disaster?
Lock disaster - 'controlled'.
@@stangreen2538 everyone has to learn stan even you had to learn ,it takes awhile for people to get the jist of it
@@sambelfie2693 Hire boat Companies fail to teach even the basics of river/canal navigation to their hirers.
@@stangreen2538 yes that's true stan so why didn't you show then you'll have found it difficult with your first attempt, be humble minded instead of criticising we all have to learn .nothing worse than a cocky boater
@@sambelfie2693 It sounds like those dumb-ass hire-boaters are some of your friends/relatives.
I think you're trying to be a bit too dramatic.... judgemental? If only everyone was as perfect as you eh?
Believe it, my disciples do.
ABC boat hire I had to show one boat how to use a center line another came up to my boat so fast he hit mine all the cupboards came open with the force, tickover speed seems to be a thing of the past and that's from people who should know better
So what do you call it when your Yorkshires fail to rise... Armageddon :)
No, impotence. Meanwhile, I am sorry there was not enough disaster, to satisfy your sick mind. People who chose to watch this video, do so after reading the title, hoping for gore. Have a nice life.
@@stangreen2538 Disaster was a poor choice of words, there was none, maybe change the title to "poor lock etiquette", sorry my comment caused you so much anger, was supposed to be humorous.
@@shardlake I will choose how to produce my videos, thank you, not you.
@@stangreen2538 Agreed, but try not to get angry at a humorous statement, my comment is just one of many.
Nice tune who is it?
Am stan the man with my camera and am watching your mistakes, I stan own the canals not just my boat so watch out ,am stan the man king of locks I am 💪🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My name is not Stan Owen.
@@stangreen2538 stupid old fool
I’ve been hiring narrow boats since 1976 so consider myself experienced. I also completed RYA helmsman course. I do find canal boat snobbery rather boring and unnecessary. In my many years experience I have witnessed more boating mishaps from boat owners than hirers. Everybody makes mistakes. Get over it
That was both, inexperience, poor training and ignorance.
Loved the first music. Great video, subject matter not so much.
Turn into the flow, that bit is a hell of a current. Always go more than you think into the flow. There is a river to the left and only a wire overflow to the right.
I don't get the point of this. Just some trippy music.
What happened?
You only watched it for the disaster.
If you cannot provide commentary, please just leave the original audio or mute it. The music you use is appalling.
the music is cool, bro, val doonican is on the 70's channel, check it out
Holidaymakers lack of experience !!! Your man forgot his bloody windlass !!
The point I was trying to make (unsuccessfully), was the person/s opening the lock gate paddles too swiftly, causing a rush of current, nearly dislodging the lower boat from its mooring.
Meanwhile, I have been served a CPN (ASBO) by WBDC (BCT)/Thames Valley Police for video recording children, without their parent/guardian consent, even in a public place.
Another no it all ,everyone has to learn you had to learn ,your probably another that thinks he Owen's the canals. STOP CRITICISING!!!!
@@stangreen2538 drama queen 🙄
Dry your eyes Stan, these things happen.
Bless,.Often resulting in death.
@@stangreen2538 I can’t think of any one who has died from opening paddles too fast 😂
OMG, what a disaster, it's a miracle many weren't killed or injured, you can never be too careful cruising around canals. This has the makings of an award winning discovery channel documentary, where at every stage something could end in disaster. Just blow it out to 50 minutes including ad breaks, and don't forget to measure narrowboats and canals in terms of football fields, elephants, Olympic swimming pools and empire state buildings (or as this is an English production, you can substitute St Paul's Cathedrals and
Bless - duh. Not to mention image of child without parent consent.
not being a boater i would say "lock landing", rather than "mooring".... but hey.... you must know best
A bit sensationalistic. Whilst they obviously should've taken more care it was hardly a 'disaster' or anything close to one. To add to that, whoever owns the Lucky Locket clearly messed up by not being in control of their boat. A shame as its a beautiful boat owned by someone who appears to not be giving it the respect it deserves. Hopefully it was a one off and they'll learn from this experience.
You would not have watched if it was not sensationlist.
Except the Lucy Locket was not moored. The centre line was not tied off the crew on shore was incapable of holding her fast against the landing wall. Takes two to tango.
Could not hold 'Lucy Locket', because of excessive current caused by inappropriate opening of lock gate paddles.
@@stangreen2538 No. You moor up on the lock landing while waiting. The crew member on shore was holding a mooring line lacked the physical strength to hold the boat. Crew responsibility is to make the boat fast and contemplate all conditions. Safety first.
@@user-pc6ql2xl8x Wrong, it is unnecessary to moor, merely hold the boat in place.
We clearly agree to disagree but whereas my marine training is irrelevant the concept that you do what is safe first seems to be something you miss.
We were on the GU in 2019 when a guy thought the same in the lock. His boat ended up flooded in the lock and had to be extracted because he too didn't bother. Carry on by all means. I will watch for your incident!
@@stangreen2538 That assumes you have the physical strength to do so mate. This dude clearly did not. A wrap on the bollard would have helped. You do what is necessary to protect all boaters when circumstances require it. This incident was caused by an error emptying the lock causing a high rate of flow which took the boat waiting out of the ability of the crew person on the lock landing to control the boat.
I wouldn't have said that's a disaster - more lack of knowledge by hirers.
I think I said that.
Nice, thank you for showing us how to do it. John E.May-0 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💜💜❤️🔥🩵🩵🩵
You are welcome. Hire boaters need greater safety instuction.
Stan just don't love narrowboat lol drama for nothing !!!
Dear, dear, someone who knows it all! I shall now hit the “do not recommend channel” button.
#binthenaffmusicitsnotmtv
Hes just an old busy bodies that knows everything, you know like the ones you get in your street 🙄
“Sam Belfie
Don't you just love all theses canal boaters criticising the new ones they think just because they have been on the canals so long they own them ,stan green is a typical example, they forget they to when they first come on the canals they where as nerves as hell and had to learn , I felt sorry more for the poor family that's just trying to enjoy there holiday and here we have stan green filming the poor sods and being put all over you tube trying to belittle them. Just imagine your first few times of doing a lock on holiday and here we have this prat running up and down with his camera filming them and putting them on you tube ,I'd have thrown him and his camera in the canal if he filmed me and my family. Idiot”.
Yes, I have read your threatening words (above).
I have seen a lot of untrained hire boaters, more often than not, pissed as farts, out of control, highly aggressive and offensives. This local hire boat company has a bad reputation. I will pass on your comments to the Canal and River Trust.
Disaster 🤷♂️
Disaster 'CONTROLLED' - duh.
@@stangreen2538 sorry it was the word disaster, how about narrow escape 😂😂😂
@@olliebodman9771 Sinking a narrow boad is a disaster.
@@stangreen2538 sorry didn’t watch until end, did it sink
@@olliebodman9771 It says at the very start 'disaster controlled', do try harder.
Annoying music had to turn it off
Not difficult really.
Perhaps a offering some friendly advice rather than filming it would have been better?
Advice is never seen as friendly in Newbury.
Was't even tied at the front
Bow.
@@stangreen2538 Curtsey.
Everyone has to learn ,you had to learn don't forget richard
What a non story.... bit of a drama queen video...