"Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. If there is no struggle, there is no progress." Frederick Douglas. Shawn Fain is doing his job...Period!
Pensions are not worth having, if the company falls on hards times that's the first thing that goes, your 401k is protected from the company if they file bankruptcy or other things that can affect the company
They don't owe you anything, you work there and they pay you a wage. If you're not happy, go work somewhere else. Those days of the UAW forcing the auto companies to pay exorbitant wages to lazy, ignorant workers to sleep and get drunk in the parking lot are long gone. UAW always stood for U ain't working.
Mark my words, in less than 20 years, there will be only five or fewer car manufacturers in the world left standing, with only one emerging as the top car brand in the world.
Shawn Fain threw out a proposal that is literally spitting in the face of it's workers after making a ton of sacrifice, new workers are making starvation wages and stellantis is trying to chip away further at the hard fought benefits these people earned. The strike fund is quite robust and I wouldn't count on striking only at strategic plants, it's very likely that company wide strikes are to happen if better middle grounds are not found.
What we are asking for is nothing new, it was something that we once had. Pension, cost of living, letting go of the tiers, better wages, among other things that we had contractually before, and we want it back! We are not asking for anything we've haven't had before. We are tired of everyone's(Management, Ceo's etc.) pockets being stuffed off of our backs! The bomb has already exploded in our(the workers) faces. We want what we had and more, we deserve it!!!💪🏾💪🏾
Lmao 🤣 not when you keep half the plants as TPTs you don't work in the plant to understand anything that's being talked about and the reason all of that is being said is because the "workers" are saying what's going on. You barely know what your talking about The big 3 use to be a place everyone wanted to go now they make way less then they used to years ago. They are definitely fighting for their fair share.
“Let the tax payers pick up the tab” I’ve been working since I was 12 and I’ll be 34 next week, so while I absolutely despise the idea of going on unemployment, if I have to, I will until I’m able to find temporary work. Guess what, WE ARE THE TAX PAYERS!
@@thebakery3996 Where do the bosses get the money for the tax and benefit if not from our labor? Poor boss crying all the way to the bank on the way to cash his dividend check that came in the mailbox.
How unions work is they put pressure on companies to make the pay and working condition better for the employees the employees don’t hate the company because of the union but because of how little management cares about making a good quality product they will do anything to keep the line moving no matter how big or small of a quality concern
People like my self who work in these facilities are proud to say we build these cars and we want to build a good quality product because of the pride we have building these cars
Right! It’s like these people forget that we are building the vehicles that they put their families in. We’ve all seen what people can do when they feel under appreciated and hate their job, now imagine it’s not a hamburger their making. Put any of these commenters on the line and they wouldn’t last an hour. And yeah, they’d lose their mind if they saw how quick the line gets turned back on by management, or how often we hear “release it, let it go.”
Ok. I'm union we have flying roaches from Mexico, no air in battooms and no sick days.. they fight for what but mandatory OT with no extra incentives. Please! We have no sick days to call in,no emergency days everything thing has to be scheduled No room for being human. They wondered why ppl gave up.. .
Mark my words, in less than 20 years, there will be only five or fewer car manufacturers in the world left standing, with only one emerging as the top car brand in the world.
@@thevinceberryyou’re just digging and digging a hole for your “free markets” view. Because dealerships are able to have so much influence they’re able to price gauge. So workers who use the same free market advantage seeing they are able to increase their pay, that’s when it’s out of line? Don’t know if you realized something but 75% of the us population lives paycheck to paycheck while proven record profits are being held by the shareholders and corporate suits. Why should they not demand their fair share.
@@thevinceberry did you even read the new proposed contract? They’re cutting 401k’s and where exactly is this new profit sharing program? Shareholders don’t count either so don’t play that card. And even if they had their 401k’s, $25/hr shouldn’t be what the manufacturers are making at the biggest automotive makers in the country. $52k a year? 2005 called they want their salary back. For the level of work that goes into assembling vehicles they should be able to have more pay than that when the corporate suits do exactly what? You’re gonna try to convince me they work way harder than any one of those manufacturers in those factories?
@@RyeBreadFilmz2115 UAW proposal is even more ridiculous. $150/hr total cost. Toyota and Honda in IN and OH will never pay that much. And they make better products
EH from 🇨🇦. I am a Unifor Tier 1 Supplier for the Brampton Assembly Plant, which is set to go done the end of December. We are not even back to 2008 wages, while upper executives keep getting huge bonuses. This September the UAW and Unifor need to rebalance the scales.
I'm a UAW employee and I gotta say this is some of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard. Really? Bad for everyone during a strike? Strong redirect against the company? Fighting for higher wages hurts shareholders? Ommmm.... that's the point dude?!! Been here for over 2 years I make less then a McDonald's employee. Our turn over is so high because people can't afford to work here. I'm happy we finally got some leaders sticking it to the companies.
Exactly. How this John guy can say such ass backwards shit like that blows my mind. This guy is a bot created by the server to fight us on this. These are all npcs
Its obvious that Sean understands that 60% of the automotive workforce will be redundant as EV takes over. What he does not understand is that no union in history has ever been able to save their members jobs from changes in technology that rendered their positions obsolete. Not once. Technology ALWAYS wins that battle.
Indeed. The only way for the legacy automakers to stay in business is to automate a good deal more of production. The unions could try to figure out a way to serve their employers and the public by reducing the amount of labor required in order to cut costs while maintaining high wages for their remaining members - but it looks like they're going to try to get everything and they'll end up with nothing. Heck, if not for union greed we would have seen this happen gradually over the last fifty years and we'd already have low cost electric cars - but they didn't allow it so now these unions will be made redundant.
True. The job of the private sector is to innovate jobs away. Which is why we should have a Job Guarantee Rather being idiotic and assume the private sector should act as employer of last resort. Which is a category error
@@katiecannon8186 Why should we force people to work, just to keep them busy? The true motivators of human endeavor are autonomy, mastery of skills, and a greater purpose to our actions. Not the acquisition of wealth and material pleasures that this system of greed is based upon. This new era is going to lead to a rapid demonetization of our value chains. Every time you digitize or automate any product or service, it demonetizes and democratizes. It costs virtually nothing to reproduce code. And we are looking at everything from food to medical services and even education being handled by Ai. And the cost of energy in 10 years is going to be virtually free as well.
While I agree with a lot, the point he is leaving out is the big 3 implemented a tier 2 system back in 2008. So when he says 64 an hour that’s a small percentage of workers compared to the main workers who are now tier 2. Now if you’re full pay yes it would equal to 64 dollars an hour but he’s leaving out the point that’s a small percentage of the work force. Majority of the workers now are making 16.66-22 an hour so numbers are skewed.
@@AutolineDetroit where can I see these statistics? I’m speaking from what I see in a major assembly plant. Legacy workers are a minority hard to believe the average is 64. Appreciate the feedback
@@AutolineDetroit no it is not. You are lying. They are paying us $16.67/hr being there for 2 years. Wherever you are getting your information from is wrong. I work in Flint Assembly GM, you don’t know what you’re talking about and you’re going to get people hurt.
I am glad some one is saying the TRUTH I am a UAW member an we get good money GM has been good 2 my family local 22 stop attacting the auto company no strike period
I'm really curious how many of the people commenting actually work in these plants because I do.. and we have given up a ton to the company so I can't respect the things coming out of his mouth...
No one's forcing you guys to work there, if you're not happy then go work somewhere else. Those days of the UAW forcing the auto companies to pay exorbitant wages to lazy, ignorant workers to sleep and get drunk in the parking lot are long gone. UAW always stood for U ain't working
I’m betting very few commenting here have ever stepped foot in a hot sweaty factory, let alone actually WORKED in one. If they did, they might have a different perspective.
@@mattrodgers4878 In some places like in the steel and chemical industry you are working inside sheds made out of a steel frame and sheet metal to hold back the wind. It can be 90 degrees inside and 60 degrees outside in some areas.
Hey were you talking about the taxpayer picking up the tab when it came to the inflation reduction act that is solely created to lean on the taxpayer to fund their R&D, building their plants, and training a replacement workforce? What about when the automakers were receiving COVID relief funds while Mom & Pop businesses were permitted to become defunct? Double standard?
Stop carrying water for the big executives, John. Workers are asking for fair pay and they have the right to withhold their labor if they don't get it.
The average UAW workers compensation is not $64 an hour. Thats company propaganda. The average healthcare cost the emoyers pay is $19k a maxed out top paid assembly line worker is $32 an hour at 66.5k...profit sharing is random every year as well as overtime and those can't be counted against workers. Profit sharing can be as low as $0 but lets say you take the average over the last decade and its not even 10k no matter which of the big 3 you pick. So you're only at 95.5k...thats only $45.91 an hour...you're telling me dental, vision, life insurance, and the paltry 401k contributions they do add up to another $18 an hour? Highly doubt it. And thats all once again including profit sharing which could be $0 its not guaranteed income. Also oh yeah thats a top of pay worker. which lets face it the majority of the uaw workers in the plants are not at. Bottom pay starts at barely $17 an hour...most are temps for 2 years at $17 an hour working random shifts and part time. Than they spend their first year direct at 17 an hour still. Thats 3 years of making minimum wage (effectively) in this country. You can make that working at the taco bell down the road from me and I'm in Michigan. Not california... The rest of the video yeah you ha e some very good insight but dont be fooled into thinking UAW workers are costing the companies $64-71 an hour. Thats bullshit and if it wasn't bullshit they'd provide proof laid out on paper showing the true costs. Which are probably closer to $50-55 an hour.
You mean a zero, he's not going to get what he wants. Those days of the UAW forcing the auto companies to pay exorbitant wages too lazy, ignorant workers to sleep and get drunk in the parking lot or long gone. Those days when UAW stood for U ain't working are also a thing of the past.
I was a temp fir 6 years no benefits and still not recognized by company as seniority… don’t tell me about investors when after me working 18 years!!!! My body is broken now and you are comparing my physical or our collective health to profits!!! Man you don’t get it either…😢
Wages have never been lower, no wonder they want a fight. Given the current climate, I expect Pinkertons to break up any attempts, and the media to NOT be allowed to cover it.
As A UAW worker our starting out pay is 16.67 an hour while the competitions starting out pay is 20 dollars an hour and the on employer that I’m comparing it to Subaru of Indiana automotive has the same benefits that we have and by the way the Canadian workers and Mexico also belong to the union all of the facilities in Canada do I can’t say for certainty That they do in Mexico
I think it’s time you retire, the big 3 are evil companies and we’re not getting our fair share, Shawn is doing what no other has had the balls to do and that’s call the company out on their BS, top pay is 32 an hour, it should be 40 at least
Thanks for the clear assessment of the situation John. It’s unfortunate that all politics today have become uber extreme with a primary mission of division. United we Stand, Divided we Fall. ✌️
If you meant that then help the uaw fight for a better life. This John guy is a corporate dick rider, nothing he says is of any value Except to get views from old boomer assholes that are his audience. That’s this John guys only purpose, not to inform or help
This might be the reason why we’re starting to see dealer lots filling up with trucks, SUVs and EVs. The big 3 are filling lots to be able to absorb some of the shutdowns.
Yes. It will give them some wiggle room during the strikes. Sadly it will also cause some plants to close. I guess Tesla will just have to build more cars! I am a Tesla share holder. I love this news. Maybe the UAW workers can get jobs with Tesla. Tesla pays better anyway.
@@davidbeppler3032 I don't think they do according to what John is saying in the video.. $50 per hour vs $64 if I heard correctly. Also not sure of the difference in benefits and job protections which I'm assuming are probably better under Union rules?
Stealership lots being filled up is a factor of their greed and the supply chain being brought to pre pandemic levels. Folks are tired of overpaying for their vehicles so until prices come in line with what the common buyer is willing to pay those lots will continue to swell. Tesla is the only outlier, for some reason only known to their cultists they can charge nearly 40k for a 20k vehicle which is how they have the highest margins in the auto industry and are making money hand over fist these days.
@@erktrek thats only for the union members those companies rely on a labour force of low paid contract workers at a pittance rate with the lure of getting a company and unionised job on the never never
Reposted because it makes sense What I got out of the video was simply this: this guy only spoke to the big three, his admission, because at no point does he say he spoke to President Fain or any actual union members! Secondly his entire video is smoke and mirrors done so to attempt to sway public opinion of our fight. The actual worker, you know the one he did not confer with to calculate HIS OPINION for his little video coverage, has given up massive amounts from their health to huge wage cuts to loss of any form of decent and fixed retirement after decades of loyal service to the companies, all the way to sacrificing their bodies and family to work up to 12 hours a day seven days a week year after year”. Funny this clown did not touch base on anything such as this. Why not talk to the medical field experts for their take on the infamous health issues manufacturing workers suffer linked directly to the auto manufacturing sector to include cancer, back, knee, feet, ankle and shoulder issues to name a few. You want to do a video on who deserves what and why then do it right and talk to ALL parties involved. Get EVERYONES take not just GREEDY companies. That’s my opinion of this little video.
I work at one of the big 3, what I hear is 110 trucks pay the bills for a week, we make anywhere from 650 to 850 a shift, we have 3 shifts at least 10 hours a day.
Somehow I think the UAW's negotiations will be less tough than the rhetoric. Although I admit that is not saying much since the rhetoric could hardly get any more confrontational.
@@garypope6382 If having a life outside of work and enough money to pay my bills makes me lazy, then call me Tammy from 600 lb life lmao. We worked 10.5 hours a day through the pandemic (Saturdays too), that lazy?
We have enough time to come home, shower, cook, and go to sleep. Please tell me you know nothing about union work without telling me you know nothing about union work. People literally dying from heat exhaustion and getting scraped off the line and replaced in 5 minutes but we're lazy because we want the same pensions your old asses have.
I think the issues are a lot more nuanced than John is making them out to be but I do agree if strikes happen it will be bad for everyone including the workers themselves. The UAW taking a hard line with fiery rhetoric is a difficult thing to walk back from and is no substitute for proper leadership - there will have to be job cuts either way and they know it. On the other hand I find it hard to believe the C-Suite folks haven't been making tons of money even during the bailout. They can cry about lowered profits while steering their respective companies into iceberg (Japanese auto invasion of the 70s), after iceberg (bailout) after iceberg (EV adoption / future Chinese auto invasion) stuck in a self-perpetuating local maximum while insinuating it's the Union's fault for all the high production costs and reasons why legacy manufacturers cannot compete. The "truth" is in there somewhere and is not likely to be all one side or the other.
Striking is always bad for us. But it’s getting worse by CEO’s making 50% more in the last decade and hourly getting a 6% increase. That’s only gonna get worse. If we wait for the perfect time to strike we will never strike. Don’t listen to this guy.
Very good analytical assessment of the UAW leader. You described both sides of the glass which is fair & balanced journalism, you even offered a solution using creative thinking vs hard noise on each line item. Great job!
It's easy to miss the bias because John is such a great media personality - My initial take after watching his commentary was that the Union was mostly to blame because their demands are not fair and they don't square with the fact they made out okay during the bailout unlike the white collar folks and shareholders who really took a bath. The glaring exception NOT mentioned was the C-Suite still got all their bonuses and large salaries. The other bit was that due to Sean Fain's hard-line but naïve rhetoric, strikes are likely and will cause the companies and employees even more hardship as if the years of poor decisions and complacency by the corporate leadership hadn't already set the stage. I agree a strike now would be a bad thing and rhetoric aside hopefully all parties know what's at stake.
As if this man has said something profound? He’s not in the UAW and is not a employee of the corporations that will be negotiating. What could he possible know about any of this? All he thinks he knows is what he’s heard! A strike doesn’t hurt it solves disputes. Just look at UPS. Billions made by companies that pay the hardest workers thousands? That will end. We’ve seen the flip side now let’s see what life is like when those that work the hardest make a ton of money for themselves. I love how millions made by CEO’s are celebrated in this country but the real talent is working the hardest and making chump change. Now you will celebrate the success of the hard working American ! Dare I say it… THE RETURN OF THE MIDDLE CLASS HAS BEGUN.
I found this in a comment somewhere. "My pay per hour as skilled trades in 2006 was at $34 per hour. adjusted for inflation that would be $52 per hour today. at my current rate of $37 per hour I have taken a 30% pay cut. In 2006 CEO Rick Wagoner was paid $9.57M, adjusted for inflation that is $14.5M. Mary Barra makes $29.1M. 3 times more than the amount Wagoner was paid in 2006. if I were to triple my pay, My hourly pay would be $111 per hour if it was adjusted at the same rate as Barra's." General Motors Chair and CEO Mary Barra got a raise and remains the highest paid CEO of the Detroit Three automakers. In fact, all of GM's top officers saw big increases in compensation last year. But the median pay for all GM employees declined in 2021 compared with 2020, largely due to parts shortages disrupting production and resulting in some workers losing hours or being temporarily laid off. 20 years ago an autoworker could afford what they were producing. that is no longer the case.
Then maybe the white collars should give up their 40% raises. Auto workers do not make $62 an hour. The companies are making billions, and the auto workers haven't had a raise in 20 years.
The auto industry is about to witness the COLLAPSE of VW and the realization that margins in a world of EVs and fleets of autonomous delivery vehicles and taxis are TINY for manufacturers. Seems like the UAW will take the shortsighted win in exchange for killing the big 3 that much faster.
I love Sean Fain! Dude is my hero. I hope it takes them awhile to arrest him, like they do all the UAW presidents. He is doing his part to make Tesla GREAT!
@@charleshaggard4341 "Mexico: Auto Workers Vote to Join Independent Unions ", "MEXICO CITY/NEW YORK -- Workers at a General Motors factory in central Mexico have voted to tap an independent labor union to represent them, replacing a long-serving union seen as too cozy with management." Mexicans are organized in Unions.
So true @juanvga, i recently did a tour of the Mazda plant in Hiroshima Japan and was surprised at the speed of the workers there. Each station had many tasks to complete before the next "Body in white" came along. I actually saw some workers almost sprinting from one side of the car to the other. Naturally i dont think that tempo is sustainable for a shift, but boy, were they productive. It was in total contrast to Australian car factories i had visited where they almost had time for a smoke between BIW's. The Australian car industry is now dead with both the Government and Unions sharing some of the responsibility for their passing. Interesting times ahead.
It's called slaved labor. Being forced to basically live in the plant and they took away the ability for workers to call 1 of the 5 days they get a year to use as sick day,emergency days,personal day. Yes, they only get 5, and now they aren't allowed to use them unless pre-approved, so you can't get sick,have a first tire, and attend any kids activities ect. But forced to work 15 months in. a 12-month calendar year. No extra time off earned for all the extra hours forced. It's a sick contract. Worse than Hollywood.
@michaelandmariedownes6070 it sad because workers realized their power and how they make them millions and the power we hold. We can all walk out and shut every production down. Without a union to say so. Power is in the people.
The UAW is the reason car prices are so high. Looks like after the Big 3 bail out that these people would be glad to have a job. The Big 3 will be like Yellow Freight bankrupt. What is the average price of a Ford F150, $60,000 or more .An a F250 at $75,000 to $95,000 more than the price of most middle class houses. These auto makers will be looking for another bail out. If the EVS don't put them out of buisness first. And the Chinese are just looking and smiling saying here comes more buisness.
FACTS! 2009 ford motor company took what was supposedly negotiated in the latest uaw contract to avoid bankruptcy, and to keep the company afloat . Ford motor company told the uaw members it couldn’t survive unless we gave everything that was negotiated in the contract back like it never happened and the UAW did just that . The following week they gave bonuses to salary now that’s a slap in the face and very disrespectful !!! I’m sick and tired of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer!!! We work very hard to make a quality product. We as the uaw want a fair contract that’s all . Together we stand united, we fall. We should all want fair wages so we can live a decent life without struggling every day. It’s not just about the UAW it’s about a living. May god bless us all brothers and sisters 🙏
Shocking and serious at a time when car companies need vast funds for re tooling /new factories etc and when a world recession is looming . Both US and UK could lose their car industries to the Chinese . Look up 1929 for what mass unemployment can mean to a country .
I completely agree with you John. I’m not a union guy & never have been but their approach seems extremely risky IMO. Should be interesting but we don’t need more bad news for our already stumbling economy. Hopefully they get this resolved without a strike but I’m afraid that’s wishful thinking. Love all your programming so keep up the good work! 🙏🇺🇸🙏🏎️🏎️
It’s so incredibly sad how Americans have been duped into being anti labor. It just means we’ve become pro bank and demand our government force households into over reliance on bank loans.
This country has not this divided since the civil war. I'm on this side your on that side. Reality is neither side gives a shit about any of us. If you're not filthy rich you do not count. Don't care if your red or blue, both sides are blowing smoke up your ass from the same pipe.😕
Oh my. Are the over paid CEO's going to have to open the golden parachute and leave to the next CEO position? Unions are trying to show that the profit reports are slanted for publication. Hoe dare the union leadership speak nasty.
We lost that n 2007 so we can keep our jobs as a GM worker we agree 2 this GM has been good 2 me with the exception of 100 ..that was taken away from our dental Insurance last 2 contracts
The BIG question is : will the US taxpayer, who can’t even dream of such salaries and forget even thinking of such pensions, want to bail these guys out AGAIN???? Why should a minimum wage worker with NO pension and sh#tty benefits have to pay to save the jobs of such businesses?
@davidlemieux615 You don't understand how the monetary system works. It wasn't "taxpayer" money that bailed out the auto industry (which they paid back in full, btw). It was *new money, brought into existence by Congress, the U.S. Treasury, and the Federal Reserve!* Taxes don't pay for spending at the federal level. Taxes collected by the IRS are deleted from circulation... #LearnMMT
Those days of the UAW forcing the auto companies to pay exorbitant wages to lazy, ignorant slobs to sleep and get drunk in the parking lot are long gone. UAW always stood for U ain't working 😅
@@Michael-fl1tm Right-wing, anti-union talking points. Great job, dupe. The people making exorbitant wages are on Wall Street, in banking, investing, or the military industrial complex. But you're concerned about whether a blue-collar worker might get a couple extra days off. Or a pension. Yeah, eff off.
"and that brings me to the problem of why I have a problem with the UAW". LOL You left out "I always have" and GM has a leadership problem at the very top
John I love AAH but I think you are not really providing enough depth to this issue. The big three have missed several shifts which cost them market share and UAW members. They are late on EV’s, missed the Japan in the 70s and 80s, and completely missed the Project For a Next Gen of vehicles in the 90s. On the last the big three were successful in keeping out Honda and Toyota where their hybrid programs were born. It isn’t high wages ( a relatively small factor of the cost it’s bad and poorly designed cars. Unions exist for reasons that are largely present today. Teslas $50/hr would be possible without the floor provided by the IAQ contracts. It’s going to be more like typewriters and PC’s they will all wind up in the scrap heap. Keep those shows coming
The UAW two-tiered pay system is extremely unfair. Workers hired after 08' don't get a pension, no health plan , and starting pay is nearly 1/2! Just because UAW workers pulled up the ladder behind them in 08'.
The union doesn't want to talk about how much they stole from the members and sold them out. Now, they want to protect their pensions and use the members as a sacrifice. They already negotiated all the better incentives away. No pensions,can't even call in 5 of the Personal paid days theyvget a year, that they earn. There are no sick days. Being forced 7 days a week up to 12 hours for 3 months straight will no way of taking a day off unless pre approved. The union is setting ppl up to be fired or quit. I wouldn't be surprised if ppl go to work and they lock the doors and tell them to reapply.
Don't depend on the Union Bosses, They are just looking out for themselves while you are standing in the heat on the picket line and they are in a air-conditioned office looking out the window.
Public attacks are part of the bargaining process just as much as what goes on behind closed doors at that very table, sorry if it hurt the CEOs precious feelings.
Agreed, unions are needed to fight for worker's rights and safety, but when they start to become let's say, too egalitarian, the buck stops there. Just like so many other industries in first world nations they will simply union themselves out of a job in the end when the company takes their manufacturing across a border or simply employs more automation.
Mark my words, in less than 20 years, there will be only five or fewer car manufacturers left standing, with only one emerging as the top car brand in the world.
Great insights! That’s why I watch!!! Won’t get this type of insight anywhere else :) The contract is over September 14th right? When would you expect a strike?
I have been saying for the past 3 years that the Unions and dealerships are going to destroy the Legacy Manufacturers. UAW is going down with the Legacy companies as they are unable to make EV's in scale!!
Profit sharing? No such thing. There would be no profits without the workers. Plus its time to organize the unorganized regardless of who owns the plant or where its located. It's the bosses who are playing with social dynamite workers are tired of the lies and disrespect coming from Boss Central.
Tax payers don’t actually issue our national currency. Our government issues our national currency when Congress votes to pay for something. Whatever it pays for is free from bank loans. And thus the need to pay our banks back in government issued dollars plus a tax in the form of interest owed
Full support for UAW and the American worker, i doubt you have ever worked on the line there tough guy! You should be ashamed, support your local working class. Put that in perspective
I don't think there will be any over playing. You people need to understand, that our salary hasn't meaningfully increased in over 30 years. $30/hr doesn't buy nearly what you think it does, and that hasn't changed like people want you to think it has.
I’m new to all of this honestly. Working at one of the plants, I understand why there is a lot of anger and frustration built up. I’m learning the ropes of surviving the automobile industry from employees being with the company longer then I have been. This video upgraded my mind.
I'm at general motors I'm at $24 an hour and will not see $25 until next contact and maybe meanwhile the ones senior to me have not fought for us and no pension meanwhile they are at $31 an hour and a pension but we will get screwed again
How could the Union and members bargain away the rights of future workers, that's so unfair and selfish. They wanted to retire with the maximum pensions, worker solidarity be damned.
@@hyphydan seniority always gets their way and the last of them have been sitting on a free ride and have not fought for any of us that have come in with in the past eight to 10 years
Agree, this could be a volatile situation. There were certainly things that the UAW gave up and they need them back. Here is the tough pill to swallow, one of the demands is for a >40% increase in wages over 4 years but rankin file members are not going to produce and additional 40% in value. The same goes for the 32 hour work week but get paid for 40 hours. A cashier at Meijers is only going to get paid a specific wage, regardless of the profit of the corporation. It currently appears the only ones with something to give up are the OEM's. Highly likely for a long and costly strike. BTW, how many Day on Hand vehicles are there?
"Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. If there is no struggle, there is no progress."
Frederick Douglas.
Shawn Fain is doing his job...Period!
It took me 8 years to get to full pay. They owe us big time with pensions.its hard to cry broke when you're profiting billions a quarter
Pensions are not worth having, if the company falls on hards times that's the first thing that goes, your 401k is protected from the company if they file bankruptcy or other things that can affect the company
They don't owe you anything, you work there and they pay you a wage. If you're not happy, go work somewhere else. Those days of the UAW forcing the auto companies to pay exorbitant wages to lazy, ignorant workers to sleep and get drunk in the parking lot are long gone. UAW always stood for U ain't working.
Hell yeah they promised me max in 4 came in right when they doubled it!! You gotta bring in a sleeping bag if you wanna eat it really wears at you
8 years to get what we needed immediately. Now they want a 45% raise and again within 4 years . Inflation is real, and we need all of it now!!
Mark my words, in less than 20 years, there will be only five or fewer car manufacturers in the world left standing, with only one emerging as the top car brand in the world.
Shawn Fain threw out a proposal that is literally spitting in the face of it's workers after making a ton of sacrifice, new workers are making starvation wages and stellantis is trying to chip away further at the hard fought benefits these people earned. The strike fund is quite robust and I wouldn't count on striking only at strategic plants, it's very likely that company wide strikes are to happen if better middle grounds are not found.
What we are asking for is nothing new, it was something that we once had. Pension, cost of living, letting go of the tiers, better wages, among other things that we had contractually before, and we want it back! We are not asking for anything we've haven't had before. We are tired of everyone's(Management, Ceo's etc.) pockets being stuffed off of our backs! The bomb has already exploded in our(the workers) faces. We want what we had and more, we deserve it!!!💪🏾💪🏾
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Lmao 🤣 not when you keep half the plants as TPTs you don't work in the plant to understand anything that's being talked about and the reason all of that is being said is because the "workers" are saying what's going on. You barely know what your talking about The big 3 use to be a place everyone wanted to go now they make way less then they used to years ago. They are definitely fighting for their fair share.
Sounds like John wants to be in the good graces of the executives and the marketing departments for the Big 3.
Right. Someone clearly has stock with the Big 3
“Let the tax payers pick up the tab” I’ve been working since I was 12 and I’ll be 34 next week, so while I absolutely despise the idea of going on unemployment, if I have to, I will until I’m able to find temporary work. Guess what, WE ARE THE TAX PAYERS!
Guess what??? Unemployment doesn’t come from our taxes. The company pays for unemployment benefits.😂
@@thebakery3996 Where do the bosses get the money for the tax and benefit if not from our labor? Poor boss crying all the way to the bank on the way to cash his dividend check that came in the mailbox.
How unions work is they put pressure on companies to make the pay and working condition better for the employees the employees don’t hate the company because of the union but because of how little management cares about making a good quality product they will do anything to keep the line moving no matter how big or small of a quality concern
People like my self who work in these facilities are proud to say we build these cars and we want to build a good quality product because of the pride we have building these cars
Right! It’s like these people forget that we are building the vehicles that they put their families in. We’ve all seen what people can do when they feel under appreciated and hate their job, now imagine it’s not a hamburger their making.
Put any of these commenters on the line and they wouldn’t last an hour. And yeah, they’d lose their mind if they saw how quick the line gets turned back on by management, or how often we hear “release it, let it go.”
Ok. I'm union we have flying roaches from Mexico, no air in battooms and no sick days.. they fight for what but mandatory OT with no extra incentives. Please! We have no sick days to call in,no emergency days everything thing has to be scheduled
No room for being human. They wondered why ppl gave up..
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Mark my words, in less than 20 years, there will be only five or fewer car manufacturers in the world left standing, with only one emerging as the top car brand in the world.
John sounds like a company man… companies have raised the prices of the cars 5-10k recently.
You mean dealerships have raise the MSPR 20%
@@thevinceberryyou’re just digging and digging a hole for your “free markets” view. Because dealerships are able to have so much influence they’re able to price gauge. So workers who use the same free market advantage seeing they are able to increase their pay, that’s when it’s out of line? Don’t know if you realized something but 75% of the us population lives paycheck to paycheck while proven record profits are being held by the shareholders and corporate suits. Why should they not demand their fair share.
@@RyeBreadFilmz2115 workers 401k and profit sharing receive a chunk of the their profit too. You talk like they only get $25/hr straight
@@thevinceberry did you even read the new proposed contract? They’re cutting 401k’s and where exactly is this new profit sharing program? Shareholders don’t count either so don’t play that card. And even if they had their 401k’s, $25/hr shouldn’t be what the manufacturers are making at the biggest automotive makers in the country. $52k a year? 2005 called they want their salary back. For the level of work that goes into assembling vehicles they should be able to have more pay than that when the corporate suits do exactly what? You’re gonna try to convince me they work way harder than any one of those manufacturers in those factories?
@@RyeBreadFilmz2115 UAW proposal is even more ridiculous. $150/hr total cost. Toyota and Honda in IN and OH will never pay that much. And they make better products
It’s not anti company it’s pro human worker rights!!!
EH from 🇨🇦.
I am a Unifor Tier 1 Supplier for the Brampton Assembly Plant, which is set to go done the end of December.
We are not even back to 2008 wages, while upper executives keep getting huge bonuses.
This September the UAW and Unifor need to rebalance the scales.
If you dont like your pay, quit. Or do something to get promoted to upper management.
Is it true Canadians don’t get a profit sharing check?? I have never heard that before
@lgee9027 I believe that is just a UAW benefit, not a Unifor benefit.
I'm a UAW employee and I gotta say this is some of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard. Really? Bad for everyone during a strike? Strong redirect against the company? Fighting for higher wages hurts shareholders? Ommmm.... that's the point dude?!! Been here for over 2 years I make less then a McDonald's employee. Our turn over is so high because people can't afford to work here. I'm happy we finally got some leaders sticking it to the companies.
Exactly. How this John guy can say such ass backwards shit like that blows my mind.
This guy is a bot created by the server to fight us on this. These are all npcs
Its obvious that Sean understands that 60% of the automotive workforce will be redundant as EV takes over. What he does not understand is that no union in history has ever been able to save their members jobs from changes in technology that rendered their positions obsolete. Not once. Technology ALWAYS wins that battle.
Well said Dave !
Indeed. The only way for the legacy automakers to stay in business is to automate a good deal more of production. The unions could try to figure out a way to serve their employers and the public by reducing the amount of labor required in order to cut costs while maintaining high wages for their remaining members - but it looks like they're going to try to get everything and they'll end up with nothing.
Heck, if not for union greed we would have seen this happen gradually over the last fifty years and we'd already have low cost electric cars - but they didn't allow it so now these unions will be made redundant.
@@alanlight7740 Its not the only sector that will be made redundant by the arrival of the digital autonomous era over the next decade.
True. The job of the private sector is to innovate jobs away.
Which is why we should have a Job Guarantee
Rather being idiotic and assume the private sector should act as employer of last resort. Which is a category error
@@katiecannon8186 Why should we force people to work, just to keep them busy? The true motivators of human endeavor are autonomy, mastery of skills, and a greater purpose to our actions. Not the acquisition of wealth and material pleasures that this system of greed is based upon.
This new era is going to lead to a rapid demonetization of our value chains. Every time you digitize or automate any product or service, it demonetizes and democratizes. It costs virtually nothing to reproduce code. And we are looking at everything from food to medical services and even education being handled by Ai. And the cost of energy in 10 years is going to be virtually free as well.
While I agree with a lot, the point he is leaving out is the big 3 implemented a tier 2 system back in 2008. So when he says 64 an hour that’s a small percentage of workers compared to the main workers who are now tier 2. Now if you’re full pay yes it would equal to 64 dollars an hour but he’s leaving out the point that’s a small percentage of the work force. Majority of the workers now are making 16.66-22 an hour so numbers are skewed.
Not true. The $64/hr is an average of all UAW workers, including temps. Temps are only 3% of Ford’s workforce and 10% of GM’s.
Stellantis 30% temp workforce, 40%+ in progression aka Tier 2 workforce and 30%- Legacy workforce.
@@AutolineDetroit where can I see these statistics? I’m speaking from what I see in a major assembly plant. Legacy workers are a minority hard to believe the average is 64. Appreciate the feedback
@@AutolineDetroit no it is not. You are lying.
They are paying us $16.67/hr being there for 2 years. Wherever you are getting your information from is wrong.
I work in Flint Assembly GM, you don’t know what you’re talking about and you’re going to get people hurt.
I am glad some one is saying the TRUTH I am a UAW member an we get good money GM has been good 2 my family local 22 stop attacting the auto company no strike period
I'm really curious how many of the people commenting actually work in these plants because I do.. and we have given up a ton to the company so I can't respect the things coming out of his mouth...
Same here! We've lost so much, and work our bodies to the limit.
No one's forcing you guys to work there, if you're not happy then go work somewhere else. Those days of the UAW forcing the auto companies to pay exorbitant wages to lazy, ignorant workers to sleep and get drunk in the parking lot are long gone. UAW always stood for U ain't working
@@cococaltol5213 I say hold some rallies and practice pickets as a starter but your going to do what you want anyway.
I’m betting very few commenting here have ever stepped foot in a hot sweaty factory, let alone actually WORKED in one. If they did, they might have a different perspective.
@@mattrodgers4878 In some places like in the steel and chemical industry you are working inside sheds made out of a steel frame and sheet metal to hold back the wind. It can be 90 degrees inside and 60 degrees outside in some areas.
Hey were you talking about the taxpayer picking up the tab when it came to the inflation reduction act that is solely created to lean on the taxpayer to fund their R&D, building their plants, and training a replacement workforce? What about when the automakers were receiving COVID relief funds while Mom & Pop businesses were permitted to become defunct? Double standard?
John you speak the plain truth with respect to the UAW yet $29,000,000 is the number. That's Mary Barra's compensation for 2022.
She is a great CEO. If GM doesn't pay her that, another company will. It's called the free market.
@@MSportsEngineeringI don’t think union people understand what free market is
Stop carrying water for the big executives, John. Workers are asking for fair pay and they have the right to withhold their labor if they don't get it.
I take it this guy has never worked on a high speed auto production line for 30 years where management pushes its works ever minute of the day.
So does people that work for Honda and Toyota.
Good on Shawn Fain for fighting for the union members. I wish him the best of luck.
The average UAW workers compensation is not $64 an hour. Thats company propaganda. The average healthcare cost the emoyers pay is $19k a maxed out top paid assembly line worker is $32 an hour at 66.5k...profit sharing is random every year as well as overtime and those can't be counted against workers. Profit sharing can be as low as $0 but lets say you take the average over the last decade and its not even 10k no matter which of the big 3 you pick.
So you're only at 95.5k...thats only $45.91 an hour...you're telling me dental, vision, life insurance, and the paltry 401k contributions they do add up to another $18 an hour?
Highly doubt it. And thats all once again including profit sharing which could be $0 its not guaranteed income. Also oh yeah thats a top of pay worker. which lets face it the majority of the uaw workers in the plants are not at. Bottom pay starts at barely $17 an hour...most are temps for 2 years at $17 an hour working random shifts and part time. Than they spend their first year direct at 17 an hour still. Thats 3 years of making minimum wage (effectively) in this country. You can make that working at the taco bell down the road from me and I'm in Michigan. Not california...
The rest of the video yeah you ha e some very good insight but dont be fooled into thinking UAW workers are costing the companies $64-71 an hour. Thats bullshit and if it wasn't bullshit they'd provide proof laid out on paper showing the true costs. Which are probably closer to $50-55 an hour.
Sean Fain is a hero
You mean a zero, he's not going to get what he wants. Those days of the UAW forcing the auto companies to pay exorbitant wages too lazy, ignorant workers to sleep and get drunk in the parking lot or long gone. Those days when UAW stood for U ain't working are also a thing of the past.
I was a temp fir 6 years no benefits and still not recognized by company as seniority… don’t tell me about investors when after me working 18 years!!!! My body is broken now and you are comparing my physical or our collective health to profits!!! Man you don’t get it either…😢
Wages have never been lower, no wonder they want a fight. Given the current climate, I expect Pinkertons to break up any attempts, and the media to NOT be allowed to cover it.
UAW workers could take a job at Tesla. The pay is better.
As A UAW worker our starting out pay is 16.67 an hour while the competitions starting out pay is 20 dollars an hour and the on employer that I’m comparing it to Subaru of Indiana automotive has the same benefits that we have and by the way the Canadian workers and Mexico also belong to the union all of the facilities in Canada do I can’t say for certainty
That they do in Mexico
@@benrichards3537 You will get a lot of arguments stating facts like that.
I think it’s time you retire, the big 3 are evil companies and we’re not getting our fair share, Shawn is doing what no other has had the balls to do and that’s call the company out on their BS, top pay is 32 an hour, it should be 40 at least
Facts brother! I’m in Local 551 Chicago Assembly Plant
That kid will pretty much finish off whats left of the US auto industry.
You think 32k a year Is a good wage for someone working on the line at one of the big 3? Subaru pays 26 hr and Gm 17 hr... but ya all is peachy
Thanks for the clear assessment of the situation John. It’s unfortunate that all politics today have become uber extreme with a primary mission of division. United we Stand, Divided we Fall. ✌️
That's not clear, not clear at all! A bunch of apples and oranges comparisons.
If you meant that then help the uaw fight for a better life.
This John guy is a corporate dick rider, nothing he says is of any value Except to get views from old boomer assholes that are his audience.
That’s this John guys only purpose, not to inform or help
This might be the reason why we’re starting to see dealer lots filling up with trucks, SUVs and EVs. The big 3 are filling lots to be able to absorb some of the shutdowns.
Yes. It will give them some wiggle room during the strikes. Sadly it will also cause some plants to close. I guess Tesla will just have to build more cars! I am a Tesla share holder. I love this news.
Maybe the UAW workers can get jobs with Tesla. Tesla pays better anyway.
@@davidbeppler3032 I don't think they do according to what John is saying in the video.. $50 per hour vs $64 if I heard correctly. Also not sure of the difference in benefits and job protections which I'm assuming are probably better under Union rules?
@@erktrek You did not hear correctly. Go back and listen to it again. Where did John get his information? That is important.
Stealership lots being filled up is a factor of their greed and the supply chain being brought to pre pandemic levels. Folks are tired of overpaying for their vehicles so until prices come in line with what the common buyer is willing to pay those lots will continue to swell. Tesla is the only outlier, for some reason only known to their cultists they can charge nearly 40k for a 20k vehicle which is how they have the highest margins in the auto industry and are making money hand over fist these days.
@@erktrek thats only for the union members those companies rely on a labour force of low paid contract workers at a pittance rate with the lure of getting a company and unionised job on the never never
Reposted because it makes sense
What I got out of the video was simply this: this guy only spoke to the big three, his admission, because at no point does he say he spoke to President Fain or any actual union members! Secondly his entire video is smoke and mirrors done so to attempt to sway public opinion of our fight. The actual worker, you know the one he did not confer with to calculate HIS OPINION for his little video coverage, has given up massive amounts from their health to huge wage cuts to loss of any form of decent and fixed retirement after decades of loyal service to the companies, all the way to sacrificing their bodies and family to work up to 12 hours a day seven days a week year after year”. Funny this clown did not touch base on anything such as this. Why not talk to the medical field experts for their take on the infamous health issues manufacturing workers suffer linked directly to the auto manufacturing sector to include cancer, back, knee, feet, ankle and shoulder issues to name a few. You want to do a video on who deserves what and why then do it right and talk to ALL parties involved. Get EVERYONES take not just GREEDY companies. That’s my opinion of this little video.
Get rid of the UAW. They need to be more like Tesla. Let the employees get stock, and hundreds of Tesla employees are millionaires.
How much labor costs are in each vehicle? I don't think I have ever heard a number.
I work at one of the big 3, what I hear is 110 trucks pay the bills for a week, we make anywhere from 650 to 850 a shift, we have 3 shifts at least 10 hours a day.
the UAW cannot unionize the transplants as their workers have refused them at every turn.
I would count on what workers in those plants did in the past.
Somehow I think the UAW's negotiations will be less tough than the rhetoric. Although I admit that is not saying much since the rhetoric could hardly get any more confrontational.
“Who wants to work for a greedy company?” EXACTLY OUR POINT.
Who wants to work in a union where laziness is rewarded.
@@garypope6382 If having a life outside of work and enough money to pay my bills makes me lazy, then call me Tammy from 600 lb life lmao. We worked 10.5 hours a day through the pandemic (Saturdays too), that lazy?
We have enough time to come home, shower, cook, and go to sleep. Please tell me you know nothing about union work without telling me you know nothing about union work. People literally dying from heat exhaustion and getting scraped off the line and replaced in 5 minutes but we're lazy because we want the same pensions your old asses have.
I think the issues are a lot more nuanced than John is making them out to be but I do agree if strikes happen it will be bad for everyone including the workers themselves. The UAW taking a hard line with fiery rhetoric is a difficult thing to walk back from and is no substitute for proper leadership - there will have to be job cuts either way and they know it. On the other hand I find it hard to believe the C-Suite folks haven't been making tons of money even during the bailout. They can cry about lowered profits while steering their respective companies into iceberg (Japanese auto invasion of the 70s), after iceberg (bailout) after iceberg (EV adoption / future Chinese auto invasion) stuck in a self-perpetuating local maximum while insinuating it's the Union's fault for all the high production costs and reasons why legacy manufacturers cannot compete. The "truth" is in there somewhere and is not likely to be all one side or the other.
Striking is always bad for us. But it’s getting worse by CEO’s making 50% more in the last decade and hourly getting a 6% increase. That’s only gonna get worse. If we wait for the perfect time to strike we will never strike. Don’t listen to this guy.
Very good analytical assessment of the UAW leader. You described both sides of the glass which is fair & balanced journalism, you even offered a solution using creative thinking vs hard noise on each line item. Great job!
It's easy to miss the bias because John is such a great media personality - My initial take after watching his commentary was that the Union was mostly to blame because their demands are not fair and they don't square with the fact they made out okay during the bailout unlike the white collar folks and shareholders who really took a bath. The glaring exception NOT mentioned was the C-Suite still got all their bonuses and large salaries.
The other bit was that due to Sean Fain's hard-line but naïve rhetoric, strikes are likely and will cause the companies and employees even more hardship as if the years of poor decisions and complacency by the corporate leadership hadn't already set the stage.
I agree a strike now would be a bad thing and rhetoric aside hopefully all parties know what's at stake.
As if this man has said something profound? He’s not in the UAW and is not a employee of the corporations that will be negotiating. What could he possible know about any of this? All he thinks he knows is what he’s heard! A strike doesn’t hurt it solves disputes. Just look at UPS. Billions made by companies that pay the hardest workers thousands? That will end. We’ve seen the flip side now let’s see what life is like when those that work the hardest make a ton of money for themselves. I love how millions made by CEO’s are celebrated in this country but the real talent is working the hardest and making chump change. Now you will celebrate the success of the hard working American ! Dare I say it… THE RETURN OF THE MIDDLE CLASS HAS BEGUN.
Same thing will happen in Europe. Don't see how VW can compete.
86% r 2 stoopid 2 vote? Sheet, goldamn....
Great Video. The Saturday Videos are my favorite, always well researched
I found this in a comment somewhere.
"My pay per hour as skilled trades in 2006 was at $34 per hour.
adjusted for inflation that would be $52 per hour today.
at my current rate of $37 per hour I have taken a 30% pay cut.
In 2006 CEO Rick Wagoner was paid $9.57M, adjusted for inflation that is $14.5M.
Mary Barra makes $29.1M. 3 times more than the amount Wagoner was paid in 2006. if I were to triple my pay,
My hourly pay would be $111 per hour if it was adjusted at the same rate as Barra's."
General Motors Chair and CEO Mary Barra got a raise and remains the highest paid CEO of the Detroit Three automakers.
In fact, all of GM's top officers saw big increases in compensation last year.
But the median pay for all GM employees declined in 2021 compared with 2020, largely due to parts shortages disrupting production and resulting in some workers losing hours or being temporarily laid off.
20 years ago an autoworker could afford what they were producing. that is no longer the case.
You can buy a vehicle anywhere anytime no one cares by whom or where it’s made at this point in time.
That's the problem. Everything sold here should be made here. But like you our own government regularly bow to their corporate masters.
I wonder what will happen when many of them are unemployed because those greedy car companies fold ?
Yep.
None will be unemployed. The US Federales can not aford to let Ford or GM go bankrupt and let them close factories. UAW for the win!
Then maybe the white collars should give up their 40% raises. Auto workers do not make $62 an hour. The companies are making billions, and the auto workers haven't had a raise in 20 years.
The auto industry is about to witness the COLLAPSE of VW and the realization that margins in a world of EVs and fleets of autonomous delivery vehicles and taxis are TINY for manufacturers. Seems like the UAW will take the shortsighted win in exchange for killing the big 3 that much faster.
You missed the EV mandate for the modern world and that most of thr Japanese are out to sea.
Where is Jimmy Hoffa?
*What Union does Toyota North America have* ??
I'm a Tesla shareholder, and I wonder if Sean Fain might be also... because a strike against the big 3 will benefit Tesla more than anyone.
I love Sean Fain! Dude is my hero. I hope it takes them awhile to arrest him, like they do all the UAW presidents. He is doing his part to make Tesla GREAT!
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CEO'S MAKING MILLIONS FOR MAKING BAD DECISIONS.
what do you think of Congress and our President ? could any worse decisions be made by them ?
John is 100% right. Great breakdown.
Have you ever worked the line, sold out by the partnership. I hope you educate on labor history
Are the Canadian and Mexican workers unionized? Has the UAW tried to get members outside of the U.S.?
I think Canadian workers are. Mexico not.
@@charleshaggard4341 "Mexico: Auto Workers Vote to Join Independent Unions ", "MEXICO CITY/NEW YORK -- Workers at a General Motors factory in central Mexico have voted to tap an independent labor union to represent them, replacing a long-serving union seen as too cozy with management."
Mexicans are organized in Unions.
Thanks John ...LOVE THESE SATURDAY SHOWS 🙏..... HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND EVERYONE ✌️
When you sees the images of the Chevrolet,Ford etc factories in the USA, the workers look slow, heavy and lazy
So true @juanvga, i recently did a tour of the Mazda plant in Hiroshima Japan and was surprised at the speed of the workers there. Each station had many tasks to complete before the next "Body in white" came along. I actually saw some workers almost sprinting from one side of the car to the other. Naturally i dont think that tempo is sustainable for a shift, but boy, were they productive. It was in total contrast to Australian car factories i had visited where they almost had time for a smoke between BIW's. The Australian car industry is now dead with both the Government and Unions sharing some of the responsibility for their passing. Interesting times ahead.
It's called slaved labor. Being forced to basically live in the plant and they took away the ability for workers to call 1 of the 5 days they get a year to use as sick day,emergency days,personal day. Yes, they only get 5, and now they aren't allowed to use them unless pre-approved, so you can't get sick,have a first tire, and attend any kids activities ect. But forced to work 15 months in. a 12-month calendar year. No extra time off earned for all the extra hours forced. It's a sick contract. Worse than Hollywood.
@michaelandmariedownes6070 it sad because workers realized their power and how they make them millions and the power we hold. We can all walk out and shut every production down. Without a union to say so. Power is in the people.
Any sources for the 64 an hour claim? I can't find one and I looked hard!
The UAW is the reason car prices are so high. Looks like after the Big 3 bail out that these people would be glad to have a job. The Big 3 will be like Yellow Freight bankrupt. What is the average price of a Ford F150, $60,000 or more .An a F250 at $75,000 to $95,000 more than the price of most middle class houses. These auto makers will be looking for another bail out. If the EVS don't put them out of buisness first. And the Chinese are just looking and smiling saying here comes more buisness.
How much money is the UAW contributing to the workers retirement?
FACTS! 2009 ford motor company took what was supposedly negotiated in the latest uaw contract to avoid bankruptcy, and to keep the company afloat . Ford motor company told the uaw members it couldn’t survive unless we gave everything that was negotiated in the contract back like it never happened and the UAW did just that . The following week they gave bonuses to salary now that’s a slap in the face and very disrespectful !!! I’m sick and tired of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer!!! We work very hard to make a quality product. We as the uaw want a fair contract that’s all . Together we stand united, we fall. We should all want fair wages so we can live a decent life without struggling every day. It’s not just about the UAW it’s about a living. May god bless us all brothers and sisters 🙏
@kayedbatayeh3851 Well said. Every worker should & does deserve better, not just the uaw. This countrys gone to shit cause of low wages.
"coming out of bankruptcy" You mean bailed out?? LOLOL
So losing time out with our families working 6 days a week every week for decades is right!!!??????WE ARE FKN OVERWORKED
Shocking and serious at a time when car companies need vast funds for re tooling /new factories etc and when a world recession is looming . Both US and UK could lose their car industries to the Chinese . Look up 1929 for what mass unemployment can mean to a country .
I completely agree with you John. I’m not a union guy & never have been but their approach seems extremely risky IMO. Should be interesting but we don’t need more bad news for our already stumbling economy. Hopefully they get this resolved without a strike but I’m afraid that’s wishful thinking. Love all your programming so keep up the good work! 🙏🇺🇸🙏🏎️🏎️
It’s so incredibly sad how Americans have been duped into being anti labor.
It just means we’ve become pro bank and demand our government force households into over reliance on bank loans.
Here in the USA we stay distracted from the big picture by making everything look like a binary argument. That way we have something to be mad at.
the smartest people understand nuance and complexity. In stark contrast, the dumbest people RUN from nuance and complexity.
This country has not this divided since the civil war. I'm on this side your on that side. Reality is neither side gives a shit about any of us. If you're not filthy rich you do not count. Don't care if your red or blue, both sides are blowing smoke up your ass from the same pipe.😕
For all the validity of his other points, McElroy did not say a single word about executive compensation.
Why is that?
Seems biased.
Their advertising budget pay his bills?
Expect GM and F quality to drop with this “the company is the bad guy” Union narrative.
Oh my. Are the over paid CEO's going to have to open the golden parachute and leave to the next CEO position? Unions are trying to show that the profit reports are slanted for publication. Hoe dare the union leadership speak nasty.
We lost that n 2007 so we can keep our jobs as a GM worker we agree 2 this GM has been good 2 me with the exception of 100
..that was taken away from our dental Insurance last 2 contracts
Excellent report and opinion. Always enjoy hearing what John has to say.
Let's face it, if the plant worker could be replaced with an automated process, it would be done.
I think the uaw will do just fine. 😁
UAW, U ain't working 😅
@@Michael-fl1tm shit I'm working so I can't agree with that 👍🏾😂
@@joshup work safe 👍
@@Michael-fl1tm thank you brother and God bless 🙏🏾
The BIG question is : will the US taxpayer, who can’t even dream of such salaries and forget even thinking of such pensions, want to bail these guys out AGAIN????
Why should a minimum wage worker with NO pension and sh#tty benefits have to pay to save the jobs of such businesses?
have you worked in an auto plant? its not exactly a cakewalk. those workers deserve to be compensated appropriately.
@davidlemieux615 You don't understand how the monetary system works. It wasn't "taxpayer" money that bailed out the auto industry (which they paid back in full, btw). It was *new money, brought into existence by Congress, the U.S. Treasury, and the Federal Reserve!* Taxes don't pay for spending at the federal level. Taxes collected by the IRS are deleted from circulation... #LearnMMT
Those days of the UAW forcing the auto companies to pay exorbitant wages to lazy, ignorant slobs to sleep and get drunk in the parking lot are long gone. UAW always stood for U ain't working 😅
@@Michael-fl1tm Right-wing, anti-union talking points. Great job, dupe. The people making exorbitant wages are on Wall Street, in banking, investing, or the military industrial complex. But you're concerned about whether a blue-collar worker might get a couple extra days off. Or a pension. Yeah, eff off.
@@presence5426 your mama
"and that brings me to the problem of why I have a problem with the UAW". LOL You left out "I always have" and GM has a leadership problem at the very top
Wow what a deranged take. Siding with corporations against the lowest paid workers is gross.
John I love AAH but I think you are not really providing enough depth to this issue.
The big three have missed several shifts which cost them market share and UAW members.
They are late on EV’s, missed the Japan in the 70s and 80s, and completely missed the Project For a Next Gen of vehicles in the 90s.
On the last the big three were successful in keeping out Honda and Toyota where their hybrid programs were born.
It isn’t high wages ( a relatively small factor of the cost it’s bad and poorly designed cars.
Unions exist for reasons that are largely present today. Teslas $50/hr would be possible without the floor provided by the IAQ contracts. It’s going to be more like typewriters and PC’s they will all wind up in the scrap heap.
Keep those shows coming
The UAW two-tiered pay system is extremely unfair.
Workers hired after 08' don't get a pension, no health plan , and starting pay is nearly 1/2!
Just because UAW workers pulled up the ladder behind them in 08'.
Tax payers paying for labor. They call them government motors for a reason and it's not labor.
The union doesn't want to talk about how much they stole from the members and sold them out. Now, they want to protect their pensions and use the members as a sacrifice. They already negotiated all the better incentives away. No pensions,can't even call in 5 of the Personal paid days theyvget a year, that they earn. There are no sick days. Being forced 7 days a week up to 12 hours for 3 months straight will no way of taking a day off unless pre approved. The union is setting ppl up to be fired or quit. I wouldn't be surprised if ppl go to work and they lock the doors and tell them to reapply.
Yes Auto companies can go contract labor, like the company I worked for and shut down there Union plants and move to a Union free country or state.
Don't depend on the Union Bosses, They are just looking out for themselves while you are standing in the heat on the picket line and they are in a air-conditioned office looking out the window.
Public attacks are part of the bargaining process just as much as what goes on behind closed doors at that very table, sorry if it hurt the CEOs precious feelings.
When unions get like this it always ends badly.
Agreed, unions are needed to fight for worker's rights and safety, but when they start to become let's say, too egalitarian, the buck stops there. Just like so many other industries in first world nations they will simply union themselves out of a job in the end when the company takes their manufacturing across a border or simply employs more automation.
The 80s were such a great time, Let the fools do it again.
Great points! The major automotive groups are balancing on pin and the anticipated strike has the potential to destroy the goose that lays the egg.
Nothing gets respect like a good strike to give the bosses a lesson on who really makes the plant run.
Mark my words, in less than 20 years, there will be only five or fewer car manufacturers left standing, with only one emerging as the top car brand in the world.
Great insights! That’s why I watch!!! Won’t get this type of insight anywhere else :)
The contract is over September 14th right? When would you expect a strike?
September 14th at midnight.
Great insight from a clueless bozo that’s not involved. Right.. please don’t voice your opinions on this anywhere.
Wow The Auto industry sounds like the Movie Industry
I have been saying for the past 3 years that the Unions and dealerships are going to destroy the Legacy Manufacturers. UAW is going down with the Legacy companies as they are unable to make EV's in scale!!
Profit sharing? No such thing. There would be no profits without the workers. Plus its time to organize the unorganized regardless of who owns the plant or where its located. It's the bosses who are playing with social dynamite workers are tired of the lies and disrespect coming from Boss Central.
Well said...
Taxpayers are still waiting for refunds on their 2008 bailouts! I think the American people will see through it and feel little sympathy with the UAW.
Tax payers don’t actually issue our national currency.
Our government issues our national currency when Congress votes to pay for something.
Whatever it pays for is free from bank loans. And thus the need to pay our banks back in government issued dollars plus a tax in the form of interest owed
Full support for UAW and the American worker, i doubt you have ever worked on the line there tough guy! You should be ashamed, support your local working class. Put that in perspective
Unified against rather than united with, is uncivilised.
Great report John! The UAW could very easy over play their hand and cause big damage to the auto makers
Not to worry, there are plenty of other auto makers in the world and they are ready to step in.
I don't think there will be any over playing. You people need to understand, that our salary hasn't meaningfully increased in over 30 years. $30/hr doesn't buy nearly what you think it does, and that hasn't changed like people want you to think it has.
I’m new to all of this honestly. Working at one of the plants, I understand why there is a lot of anger and frustration built up. I’m learning the ropes of surviving the automobile industry from employees being with the company longer then I have been. This video upgraded my mind.
Same here, been at general motors for 3 years and this being my first contract I'm pretty lost lol
I'm at general motors I'm at $24 an hour and will not see $25 until next contact and maybe meanwhile the ones senior to me have not fought for us and no pension meanwhile they are at $31 an hour and a pension but we will get screwed again
How could the Union and members bargain away the rights of future workers, that's so unfair and selfish. They wanted to retire with the maximum pensions, worker solidarity be damned.
@@hyphydan seniority always gets their way and the last of them have been sitting on a free ride and have not fought for any of us that have come in with in the past eight to 10 years
Agree, this could be a volatile situation. There were certainly things that the UAW gave up and they need them back. Here is the tough pill to swallow, one of the demands is for a >40% increase in wages over 4 years but rankin file members are not going to produce and additional 40% in value. The same goes for the 32 hour work week but get paid for 40 hours. A cashier at Meijers is only going to get paid a specific wage, regardless of the profit of the corporation. It currently appears the only ones with something to give up are the OEM's. Highly likely for a long and costly strike. BTW, how many Day on Hand vehicles are there?
Surely there once was a place for unions,,, long gone.
You are impressive and well versed in the automotive industry.
Always look forward to listening to your intel and insight.
Thank you!
Listen to Fain if you think this is "insight". If you care about workers instead of executives. Ford CEO makes $21m base per year. Open your eyes.
This video is pure propaganda
Remind you, could you imagine what the media would’ve said about Walter Reuther? Listen to this guy, smh sad
Shawn is finally the man the unions need. You a shill, bro. It is not anti-automaker
record profits=record contracts.
I work in the plant and it’s brutal.
Fewer and fewer people are buying American made cars by American companies. That's the whole problem.