P-51 Mustangs Clash with Me-262 Fighters in an Epic High Altitude Dogfight IL2 Sturmovik Flight Sim
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- American P-51 Mustangs and German Me-262 fighters clash for an epic dogfight high over Europe late in World War II. This was made using the IL-2 Sturmovik historic flight sim. Hope you enjoy! Please like, comment, and subscribe.
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However in reality he would never be able to creep up on an me262 because of its superior speed, most kills by p51 was through deflection firing and not from behind. Allied veteran airmen say most of the time in close proximity that the me262 was just a blur going past you.
Or an ME262 with an unserviceable engine going out mid-flight which was a likely scenario given the Jumo's temperamental infancy.
I think you could creep up on a ME 263 provided it was in a climb
or coming into land.
You have no clue what the actual top speed of the ME 262 was, what Wikipedia lists is Willie Messerschmitt's CLAIMED top speed when in reality not a single one that ever flew even came close to 560 MPH.
Look up the NACA reports from testing them after the war and you're gonna be highly disappointed.
Another thing you need to understand when doing your armchair dogfighting is the US fighter's are never listed at their actual top speed, only their top speed under Military Power, at War Emergency Power they were faster, then if you slingshot out of a 30° WEP dive yes they would come up behind ME 262's fleeing in level flight and catch them, there's more than one documented accounts of it happening.
Video games are one thing, what really happened in the air war over Europe is another.
It's not always about the more powerful thrust, particularly with an early jet like the 262. The p51 had an exceptional top speed for a single prop fighter, and it was able to gain speed fast and maintain that speed better than most ww2 fighters thanks to the laminar flow wing design that reduced drag. You get a p51d with a decent altitude advantage and a 262 pilot not watching their six and that p51 can dive right in behind that 262 at up to 500mph.
The p51 wouldn't be able to follow the 262 very far in a climb, but could definitely cash in some altitude to slide up behind one that's flying level.
It was entertaining watching the P-51 catch up to the 100 mph faster me-262 ..lol
Very realistic. The Me-262s weren't always flying at top speed especially when they weren't aware of any enemies in the area. The Me-262 was a massive fuel hog at top speed which gave it very limited range. They had very little time to engage the enemy and still get back to base. The P-51 pilots quickly learned of the Me-262s limitations and used it to their advantage. The early Juno turbojet engines were EXTREMELY sluggish. They could get the Me262 up to very high speed but couldn't always do it fast enough to avoid being pounced upon by diving P-51s. Many of the victories against the Me-262s came from surprise attacks, usually when they were returning to base and especially when lining up to land. Allied pilots would often loiter over the Me-262s home base waiting for them. Allied pilots knew the Me262's would be low on fuel and lacked the throttle response they would need to pull away from a diving P-51.
they used to dve on them as dive speed was equal to level flight in the me262
@@Tron-Jockey Even with fast throttle response, these early jets actually had less thrust than propellers (at low speed), however, propellers lose thrust with speed while jets don't, which means that they eventually do have more thrust, but only at high speeds.
This means that the top speed of these jets might be much greater, but the acceleration (specially at low speed) suffers.
Try 125 mph faster
Erich Hartmann shot down multiple p 51’s in less than one day, he claimed at least 11 victories, maybe 17 in 1day.. thats what a skilled pilot could wrench out of this much faster plane.. Alolf”Dolpho”Galland shot down 6 from a me 262 and he was generalleutnant with over 100kills in Battle of France and Britain.he Said it flew like if angels where pushing..
Kurt Welter shot down 20+ and was the leading j’et ace in Germany, after him i Think Heinrich Bär oberstleutnant and a legend and ace to.. they also saw right trough the bomber formations with their cannons firing burst after burst.. but they came to late, if they have been in Numbers like the me bf 109 in 1940 the Battle of Britain would have possibly haved another outcom and so on…
dogfight is not the thing of Me-262, just dive ,shoot and climb
262's in a turning fight with Mustangs...not likely..but entertaining
It happened all the time.
oh and not mentioned, that 262-pilots on the parachute were the favourite victims of anglosaxons fighters.......you won´t believe? ask General Galland
The only way the p-51s had a chance was pilot stupidity (as in a turning battle) or if the pilot was landing.
@@jandoernte8970 the 262's were not as capable as you imagine. Once the Allied fighter pilots figured out how to use their strengths against the jet's weaknesses, they were very often the victors. And not because the Luftwaffe pilots were "stupid".
@@wanyelewis9667 "And not because the Luftwaffe pilots were "stupid"." But many of them were BOYS with less flying experience, outnumbered by allied planes...what heroes the allies are !!!!
The Me 262 were 100 mph faster than the Mustangs. There is no way that the Mustang can catch up to one and destroy it.
262s lost more speed than the p51 and accelerated a lot slower than the p51. What you are implying is that the red tails never killed 262s even though they did
@@fabolousnature3873 no. The me 262 lost a lot of speed when they maneuvered they killed fully functional 262s the pilots were incompetent. Stop making excuses
Great and enjoyable graphics, but for the premise to be accurate, the Me-262's were not there to combat the P-51's according to the video, they were sent up to shoot down the B-17's which the P-51's were escorting. While they may have clashed, the Me-262's objective were the bombers.
I don’t think that would have occurred in real life. Shooting down 2 x262s then avoiding being shot down by a third (Post edit. Just found out this is a true story)
The 30mm cannons on the 262 are very tricky to aim in real life. They had poor muzzle velocity and really only worked up to 400m
But the 2 x 262s can be explained by one: the 262 lost speed more than a p51 in a turn and the me 262 was flown by many inexperienced pilots simce the luftwaffe had nobody left really.
Yes it did: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_L._Drew
@@MadTom56 Ok I thought it was a fictional story. They should have said it was real in the video
@@fredsalfa The video itself IS fictional. I've played the same or similar scenario dozens of times on the old "Chuck Yeager's Air Combat" simulator. But Lieutenant Ben Drew did shoot down two Me-262s on one mission,
That p-51 whistle holy
My German grandfather flew a Me-262 Schwalbe. He told me when he encountered Mustangs. His tactic was to out maneuver the Mustangs, by making them exhaust ammo. Then use his limited ammo 30mm cannons for 11 o'clock attacks.
Well someone's a liar here, the ME 262 had a wider turning radius than any other fighter in the ETO and because of that their pilots were under orders to never dogfight with enemy fighter's, they were ordered to disengage from any type of dogfighting and dive away to put distance between them and any enemy fighter's.
Got any other bullshit stories you wanna try and pass off as real?
@@dukecraig2402 When I was a kid in the mid 60's one of my neighbours had flown Hurricanes, Typhoons and Tempest V's throughout the war and he said that most allied kills on early jets was when they were taking off or landing.
Never would a Me-262 pilot be stupid enough to get into a TURNING dogfight with P-51s. NEVER ! Like a Greyhound turning around to fight a pack of Hyena's .
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The ME-262 only had a range of 650 miles while the P-51's range was 1300. This can make a difference when dealing with them.
So what? And then ?
could be but the 262 could fly like 150 miles faster and didnt they have a 30mm? only takes one of those to knock out a P51 vs numerous .50 cal.
From what i've read over the years is that the 262's couldn't stay in the air long and the American Fighters took them out when they we're landing. They obviously had a speed advantage over the P 51's.
Only a couple 262s were actually downed when trying to land, people just parroted the myth that that was the only way they were shot down. Someone on youtube did a breakdown of all the known destroyed 262s, and very few were landing kills.
@J. Landon Pure myth that P51's could not handle the ME 262 at high speed and high altitude. On March 24, 1945, during an attack on Allied Bomber formations at 25,000 ft, EIGHT ME 262's were shot down by the 332nd and 31st Fighter Groups with no loss of bombers or fighters. The 332nd FG (Tuskegee Airman) shot down 3, while the 31st FG shot down 5 more. Max speed of a P51 in a dive exceeded 550 MPH (887+ KPH), meaning the P51 with dive speed could temporarily overtake an ME 262 at full throttle. The only hope an ME 262 had against a diving P51 was to see the P51 early enough to stay out of .50 caliber BMG(Browning Machine Gun) range, go full throttle, drop the nose a bit and RUN, trying to stay far enough ahead until the P51 dive speed bled off, allowing the ME 262 to pull away. The 50 caliber BMG on the P51 had much longer range than the 30mm cannons on the ME 262, so the P51 could get effective hits on the ME 262 at about 3 times the effective range of the 30 mm cannons. The ME 262 had to run and fly straight, no turns of any type, because the P51's much higher maneuverability, would allow the P51 to cut across the arc of an ME 262 turn, closing the gap to 50 BMG range and kill the jet.
The p 51 was able to turn into a pass in to a 262 when it passed through but only if they saw it coming and knew it would have to pull up to climb
This is such BS. During the actual war P51 Mustangs couldn't do much to shoot down an Me 262 Jet. They had to resort to finding the air fields and bombing jets that hadn't taken off yet. The Messerschmitt was such a superior aircraft that the Allies really didn't have any other way to defeating it.
And catch them when they were landing.
Believe in a different result when (3) Me 262 meets one single P-51? !
Interesting video, but 262's wouldn't go after fighters alone
What's fascinating is the piston aircraft had an advantage, they could maneuver better than the 262 , and the 262 gulped incredible amounts of fuel , as well as issues with the engines, didn't have the modern alloys for turbines
with a speed disadvantage of 150 MPH this is all wishful thinking
That 150mph advantage took a long time to gain, time a 262 doesn't have after a turn so yes this is in the realm of possibility
Always wondered why the me262 engines weren't targeted. It flys like brick with one engine out. The jumo jet engines were finicky, one 50 caliber round takes out the turbine.
it’s because the me 262s were just too fast to get a clear aim at, so the pilots just tried to shoot at it and hope that their rounds atleast did some significant damage as it got close
A 262 pilot who prefers to bail instead of shut the engine down and a p51 that pass over the enemy airfield instead of go arround it
It's a game, cowboy.
"The first time I saw a jet, I shot it down" Chuck Yeager
Most 262s were shot down coming into land or getting airborne. I don't think they ever got into dogfights. If they did, this was very rare. They used the boom and zoom tactics because of the speeds the 262 had. No way they would have used the 262 in a turn fight with the piston-engine fighter. All of these Pilots who flew these machines were Experts.
bunk.The mustang is a very effective fighter but it could only hit the 262 when landing or the off run.
The ME-262 was at least 100 mph faster than the Mustang, even though the P-51 was the pinnacle of piston engine design. The ME262 pilots were inexperienced because of the shortage of trained ones towards the end of the war. An experienced ME-262 pilot would smoke and piston engine plane
Not necessarily. The speed advantage gave them the option to do 'boom and zoom' attacks, but if they tried to engage in dogfights with the Mustangs they were at a disadvantage. Similar to what was the case with F6F pilots going against the Zero in the Pacific - Boom in attacking, and then Zoom out, but don't engage in a turning fight with a more nimble opponent. Also, the 262 was vulnerable during take-off and landings, while their engines were spun down. It was a common USAAF tactic to ambush the jets at these times. During the war, the ME-262's generally weren't bothering with the the American fighters anyway, and would actively try to avoid them. Their real target was almost always the Allied bombers.
Max speed. P - 51 - 704 km/h ME - 262 - 855 km/h
Max speed of a P51 in a dive exceeded 550 MPH (887+ KPH), meaning the P51 with dive speed could temporarily overtake an ME 262 at full throttle. The only hope an ME 262 had against a diving P51 was to see the P51 early enough to stay out of .50 caliber BMG(Browning Machine Gun) range, go full throttle, drop the nose a bit and RUN, trying to stay far enough ahead until the P51 dive speed bled off, allowing the ME 262 to pull away. The 50 caliber BMG on the P51 had much longer range than the 30mm cannons on the ME 262, so the P51 could get effective hits on the ME 262 at about 3 times the effective range of the 30 mm cannons. The ME 262 had to run and fly straight, no turns of any type, because the P51's much higher maneuverability, would allow the P51 to cut across the arc of an ME 262 turn, closing the gap to 50 BMG range and kill the jet.
UM , Nar, will give this one away.
You managed to shoot down more ME 262's in this engagement, than actually happend in reality.
Well done.
Actual reality bites the dust when you can use a computer to change it....
Wtf is the 262 doing here? He's way too slow. Why didn't he dive properly. He literally stalled on front of the P51
The ME 262 wasn't great in the dive or turn, and their acceleration was poor compared to the really good piston engined fighters. Their superior top speed took time to reach while the jet engines spooled up. Once the allied pilots understood what they were fighting, they did much better. Bottom line: the 262, while a great advancement, was never meant to dogfight.
262's weren't made to dive. They weren't designed to dogfight, especially against the best piston fighters like the '51. They were designed to fly in a relatively straight line at high speed & unleash their heavy (albeit slow-firing & low m.v.) cannons at bomber formations.
@@wanyelewis9667 so why didnt he have high speed then. Thats like the first Jet lesson: keep your speed up
In space no one can hear you scream. P-51 doesn't whistle when your inside it. All you hear is the roaring din of the Merlin's raw exhaust. Long escort missions were a tough boar to ride.
I broke out in a cold sweat watching this.
"Such a beautiful plane... I actually felt bad shooting at it."
Must have had the only P51 in the war that was able to overtake take a ME 262 in level flight.
Why are the faster Me-262 moving at same speed as the slower P-51s ?
If the Me-262s pulled up or turned they would lose speed and become vulnerable. The Me-262s could also have been heading back to their base when they were usually very low on fuel (the range of the Me-262 was terribly limited, they were major fuel hogs). They could also have been lining up to land when they were extremely vulnerable. Allied pilots would often loiter around the Me-262s home base waiting to pounce on them. In this video the Me-262 pilots looked to be surprised by P-51s diving on them. The response of the early Jumo jet engines was extremely sluggish. They could go very fast but it took a while for them to get up to speed. They couldn't always pull away fast enough especially when surprised during landing. Many if not most of the P-51 victories over the Me-262 came when the Me-262's were most vulnerable, like landing. IMHO the Me-262 wasn't nearly as effective as the FW-190 due largely to its extremely limited range and sluggish and unreliable jet engines.
Stupid propaganda 😂
Not to real for so many reasons if you listen to how the allied veterans said how they had to fight the german jets.
Great vid but i think the 262 should have gotten a better chance :/
Not seen such a crap for a long time. A Mustang flies faster than a ME 262
The Me-262 was indeed faster than the Mustang but the pilots who flew the jets were inexperienced as hell that their jets slowed down when they tried horizontal maneuvers
dogfights are not flown at max speed, learn a bit more about fighter tatics
Nah most me262s were flown by the best pilots Adolf Galland got together the best experts and called them so yea 262s were shot down by allied pilots but they were passing shots or on takeoff and landing when the jets were vulnerable
@@sizzler2462 At the end of the war however, it was a mix of BF-109 pilots and even Junkers pilots.
@@904_Florida yes but the best flew the 262 former bomber pilots despite vast experience transferred very poorly to fighters read accounts by wartime German fighter pilots said stating so
P51 Mustangs we’re the greatest fighting machines! I love this video!
But the 262´s were much better. One Mustang kills two 262´s What were doing the other 262´s when his friend has been chased? Also was funny watching P-51 chasing Messerchmitt 262 what is much faster.
they came up behind the ME-262's when they were descending to land, ask Chuck Yeager.. (RIP)
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Hey guys the film was originally a video game. To play the game you needed a joy stick, although you could play it with a key board, I found it more fun using a joy stick. The IL-2 Strumovik games were nicely made and very interesting.
It should be noted that by statistic the US lost more than 2000 P51s in aerial combat (this against a few hundred German fighters). All in all the US lost 18000 airplanes in combat (accidents in training and ferry not counted).
The sheer numbers only helped the US to gain air superiority !
You know what the P-51Ds with the red nose and tail fighting these ME-262s reminded me of the Tuskegee Airmen escorting bombers into Germany in 1945.
Yes
Scary proposition tail surfaces damaged
That’s a close call , control surfaces damage, you would’ve had to change your underwear!!
Looking at the markings of the p51 planes it looks like the red tail squadron who were all black pilots and is an historical fact lol
5:18 “aint-aircraft” lol
Watch out for cockpit windows they might hit your wing 😂
Any p-51 pilot who flew like this was quickly shot down or kicked out of the air force. Ridiculous, no wing man not enough fuel or brains.
This video shows the props gaining on the jet fighters, that doesn’t seem realistic at all. My understanding is that in reality most of the German fighter jets were lost while attempting to land, not in aerial combat.
The P47 M could deal with the ME262 in a boom and zoom maybe on a lucky pass in a power dive. P51 Mustang was better with dealing with the Swallow on landings and takeoffs when power wasn’t spoiled up to full power , otherwise forget it !!
Inaccurate. The Me262 would NOT have missed at 8:00, the Mustang would've been TOAST.
No mustang could get a bead on a 262 unless the 262 pilot flew into the shot( lead) which they did ooops (deflection) or was slowing to land. a 262 could keep a 100 mph advantage in most configurations and could just climb away where the P51 couldn't breath. The P47 however, could dive away from a 262 and once regaining altitude surprise the jet jocks - fat boys win sometimes and the 47 could absorb lead. The mustang gets a pinprick leak in coolant and out of service.
That lead was a 30mm MK108 minengeschos. Not one but 4 of them. A single one which was mounted in the nose of Messerschmitt 109s took one hit to decimate a fighter. I know there were cases where Thunderbolts took massive punishment from Focke Wulfs and kept flying but it has absolutely zero chance against that cannon. It's just way too powerful for a fighter to handle mostly because they were intended to shoot down bombers.
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I'm wondering if the ME262 was OVERENGINEERED or UNDERENGINEERED.
Its the KI that doesnt do anything against being shot down :)
It was the best the germans could produce with their lacking resources.
The engine of a 262 had a life span of five hours, before it was burned out. Mustangs fly to this day.
+WindWard The ME262 was a 1st generation jet with a lot of developmental issues that took until well after WW2 for the Brit's, Russians and Americans to work out the jet bugs. However, for its time, the ME 262 was arguably the best jet design. The problems the ME262 had going up against the P51B/C/D would have been the same an American P80 or British Meteor would have had going up against an FW190D or ME109K4: a 1st generation jet with all its bugs going up against piston engine fighters at peak, mature development. Under those conditions of being in early development stage, none of the early jets could really be effective against mature-technology piston engine fighters. The best a jet could hope for is to stay roughly on an even playing field. The ME262 more or less managed to do that against the P51, although the P51 likely killed a few more ME262's than ME 262's killed P51's. P51's were credited with 121 kills of ME262's between NOV, 1944 and MAY, 1945, and about 70% of the kills were during attacks on bomber formations at 25,000 ft or higher altitude. So it is a myth that the P51 could only kill the ME262 during take off and landing. In addition to the 121 Kills of ME262's by P51's, another 25 were killed by P47's, and Spitfires / Typhoons were credited with 22 kills of ME262's. The P51 killed the most ME262's because the jet was ordered to destroy bombers, while the P51's were ordered to both protect the bombers, and to klll the Luftwaffe, so the collision between the P51 and ME262 was inevitable, a "perfect storm" so to speak.
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It’s so rare to see mustangs that are green.
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Chuck Yeager once said he’s shot down the first Me262 that he saw
Un Mustang no hubiera tenido ninguna oportunidad frente a un Me-262. Saludos.
It was a cool video but the Krauts would never waste that much anti-air ammo on a lone fighter.
damn this is some fantasy type of shit. inferior plane takes out multiple opposing planes without issue.
Well done!
Idk anout the 2nd kill. 262 netter rate of climb esp high and speed adv. ran it down in seconds?
How are the slower Mustang catching up to the Jets?
Mustangs flew at 703 km/hr (440 mph) while the 262 cruised at 464 mph and would hit 515 mph without issue. Greater success by Mustang, Thunderbolt and Lightnings was when the 262 was landing or taking off. I couldn't loiter like Mustangs coming into Germany with tanks so they engaged and then retreated to refuel and got followed down to their bases.
While the level flight speed of a P51 was about 440 mph @ 25,000 ft, the P51 could easily exceed 550 mph in a dive. So if a P51 were about 2,000 or 3,000 ft higher than the ME262, then the P51's dive speed could actually overtake the jet, and the P51's laminar flow wing bled the dive speed off slowly, allowing the P51 to maintain 500+ mph for as long as the plane could remain in a long shallow dive. The ME262's jet engines were very slow at throttle response, so if the jet slowed down, it was at the mercy of the P51's fast throttle response and acceleration. For an effective gun run on American bombers, the 500+ mph jet had to slow down against the bombers traveling at about 1/2 the jet speed, and at that point the ME262 was extremely vulnerable to P51's. Another advantage the P51 had was that the 50 caliber Browning Machine Guns carried had about 3 times the effective flat-shooting range of the 30mm cannons carried by the ME262, meaning the P51 could get effective hits on the ME262 at ranges that the 30mm cannon could not possibly hit the P51 from.
@@63DW89A the 262 had a critical mach of 0.86 while mustang's was 0.75, so it was still faster in a dive
@@63DW89A only the most experienced and best luftwaffe fighter pilots flew the me-262, so the scenario that you're talking about would have never happened.
I would like to hear some commentary...maybe I missed it. How did the 262 handle? What were the pilots thoughts? Thw armament seems good vs a bomber but overkill for air superiority. I would have 2 30 mils and more smaller caliber myself. How is the pitch, roll, thrust, climb, etc... always thought this plane if used right and had good pilots could have been a game changer if mass produced just a year earlier.ps: my Dad earned his wings at the end of ww2 (age 17 lied about his age) and flew the mustang in Korea.
The 262 pilots had to be careful with the throttle or they would burn up the engines. Nobody on either side had the metallurgy to keep the type of engines they had from failure due to the heat firewalling the throttle generated.
Could you do a video when the red Tails clashed with the me262s?
The more maneuvrable Volksjäger would give the Mustang the struggle of her life!
Nice vid man the me262 is really close to the p51 I like it really good fighters
Must be a software limitation that so often these planes turn on a dime without the usual banking, etc.
Excellent video I loved it
That P-51's tail should be red.
This was filmed in dreamland?
No way. A group of 262s would corral and shoot down a flock of p51s.
I don't think so...maybe on landing or takeoff, but not topside.
LOL is the German pilot quadriplegic ? He doesn't move at all. He stalls in front of the Mustang, waiting to be shot down. So stupid XD
Well. You were watching:-))
If you had would show to us in that film the true about Me- 262, then we would follow you and beleve your issu
If your confused why are the p51s are catching up on the 262s because the p51s would need to drop there fuel tanks or there was no fuel tanks so there catching up on the 262s
The 262 is about 100 mph faster than the 51, but they didn't always fly flat out. Still a 262 should be able to out run and out dive a 51, even if he is surprised by the 51. Still there are recorded 51 victories over the 262. I understand the 51s would orbit looking any 262 trying to land or take off.
Thr Packard Merlin's on our mustang s where exceptional sturdy and quick to react to throttle ups, the Junkers Jumo Turbo rocket did not have that luxury.
But those AA 88 were really Bad news if they scored the engine 🤣.
Great video though and a realistic situación.
Realistic?! Do you know what top speed has 262?! And in the dive?! The Mustang couldn't chase him for so long.
I just do not think the P-51 could stay anywhere near the ME in a tail chase.Thats a hit and run plane not a dogfighter unless you out of fuel in the pattern.I did enjoy it a lot.
This is accurate. In hindsight I probably need to craft the next one a little more like that.
here the science has been ignored. it is seem to be the p-51 had the the same velocity of the greatest and powerfull german airplane Me262 in the warld.
The 262 was a hit and run fighter. Mustans could only catch one while diving to gain airspeed.
Mustangs
Next video: P-51 mustang vs sukoi 35. P-51 wins.
I didn't see flaps down when landing
Ok, 200 to 230 Me 262 are used in combat and 600 of them are only shoot down from P51. The other 400 fron c36s , yes? How many of these Jets had double wings? Laughing!
"A large Flight of Me262s"? In Reality a dozen germans frightend to death against 1200 terror bombers and 1400 fighter escorts completely destroying one city after the other, full of refugees, children and women.
The Heros were those few german pilots fighting till the end every day totally outnumbered. Adolf Galland, Johannes Steinhoff, Erich Hartmann... were one of the first and one of the last.
Me262 was ideal to fight against bombers. Those 4 huge 3cm canons could annihilate a B17 with one burst, but as well as the 12 R4M AA missiles too slow for agile fighters. Fighting against P51 made no sense in standard 1 or 2 circles. Engage and disengage with far superior speed was the key to success.
Look mate if Germany didn't surrender in 1945 they were going to drop the atom bomb on them this is still secret
Até parece que o Mustang era pare para este avião turbinado dos alemães , era um avião muito rápido vc não vinha como não deichar ele da s suas traseiras ,da qual era uma presa certa pra abate . Seus canhões eram potentes duas rajadas e ponto final para os adversários .
the me 262 do not even try to evade being shot down
Good show but highly unlikely as a P51 could NEVER catch an ME262 much less take down two. The most successful fighter against the ME262 were the Hawker Hurricanes. Most ME262 planes were lost at take off or lading when their speed and manuvarabilty was extremely poor. Although these videos are fun to watch, my father was a WWII pilot who flew Henkel and Stuka in WWII so I would appreciate a little more true historical content.
graphics are awesome. especially of the 262 pilot taking a few rounds. real as it gets on a sim.
Fantasy of american pilots..because this were not the reality..!!!
Actually there were some 262s shot down by p51s during WWII
@@matta4756 Very few ones.
@@loneronta very few 262s in the war.
Hitler wanted to use 262s as bombers.🙄
@@johnkelsiemcnair7787 this is true, and i believe that delayed them from rolling out earlier
O jogo desfiou as leis da física. Um Mustang encurtando a distância para um ME-262 na subida????? Impossível
Well done
P51 was made to survive! 262 was to die for the fuher!
Это результат голливудского сценария! Осталось только вручить "Оскар" за.... но война очень отличается от павильонных съемок! Статистика воздушных боев говорит обратное: Me 262 и Mustang - это как "небо и земля", а на практике 10:0 в пользу Me 262! американские летуны могли предоставлять только эскорт-услуги для своих "летающих крепостей" -)))
Does anyone know did any other American piston driven fighter shoot down a enemy jet fighter?
The red tail squad who flew wingman positions to protect the fighter bombers, they were the Tuskegee Airmen, all black Red Tail Fighter squadron.
Those german soldiers on the groung look stiff as hell...lol
It os a Nice vídeo but the Messerschmitt 262 had much more speed and it turns vulnerebul just on taking of situations
Great video
here the science has been ignored
Cool video