P-47 fans might also enjoy an Emmy nominated TH-cam video entitled "Behind Enemy Lines" which features a 97 year old P-47 fighter pilot, Wally King, who flew 75 missions in France and Germany before being shot down and captured. My neighbor and friend, Wally and two other veterans will soon be presented the French Legion of Honor medal by the French Consul for their service in France during the war. It is an amazing story.
Dark humor from the Wehrmacht in 44 and 45 , " If you look in the sky , and see a plane , and its black , its British . If you look into the sky , see a plane , and its silver , its American . If you look into the sky and see nothing , its the Luftwaffe "
My Grandfather piloted the Jug in WWII, bombing trains and convoys...I wondered how frequently they encountered enemy aircraft as a result. He flew 116 missions and retired to Florida so I'm guessing not a majority of the time. But, it also attests to how tanky they were.
When P47's started being used primarily for ground attack they started losing pilots at a rate of ×4 then when they were being used as fighter's, your grandfather was in more danger doing that then fighting the Luftwaffe.
The P-47 was twice as big as an Me-109 and better armed with 8 x (50 caliber) machine guns. Enough times the Me-109's emptied their guns trying to shoot down a P-47 gave the P-47 pilots great confidence that they were invincible. 🤠
The nasty surprise of the Jug was that it was extremely fast and maneuverable above 30000 feet, the altitude at which it ha been designed to operate as a bomber interceptor. The four bladed prop made it dangerous from the deck to almost the stratosphere. Hell of a weapon.
The best of the German fighter pilots were killed by thunderbolt pilots over German held territory. The Germans were never able to replace these Experienced pilots at the same caliber of capability.
It really started to shine right around 15,000 ft because that's where the German fighter's performance started to drop due to their inferior supercharging systems.
I am no gamer and never will be, but I have gotten a little hooked on this stuff! Congrats to you folk for bringing the standard to this level. I have a soft spot for "The Jug", as well. What a beaut tough aeroplane she was. Thanks folks.
My father was in B-24's and loved seeing the Little Friends show up. Many times it the the Jug. For any of you that had a father, grandfather or uncle that flew cover for the heavies, my thanks to them for their protection of the bomber streams.
My father flew a P-47 and over a 2 week period in November 1944 he shot down 3 FW-190s. While it was not as good in air-to-air combat its raw power and durability made up for much of its lack of maneuverability. However, it was by far the best close air support platform to come along during that period.
I love that real life story in World War 2, of the German fighter pilot that emptied his guns into a P-47 that just wouldn't go down. The Thunderbolt was returning home and out of ammo, and the German dumped some rounds into his 6 and then pulled alongside and shook his head at the pilot, then got back on his six and emptied his guns. When the Thunderbolt still didn't go down, he pulled alongside and saluted the P-47 pilot, and escorted him back to his line. Its on the P-47 episode of dogfights.
sounds almost like Robert Johnson's episode, however he had been bounced while in formation, badly shot up, and unable to bail out due to damage received to the P47 he had ammunition, but wasn't able to respond when he was found by a German. He did make it back and went on to become America's second highest scoring ace in the ETO.
@@ret7army Yes indeed, it was Robert S. Johnson, 56FG, he was the second highest scoring USAAF in ETO with 27 confirmed kills and he did manage to fire on the Luftwaffe pilot at one point but without effect. A fellow 56FG pilot named Francis S. Gabreski had 28 confirmed kills before striking the ground while strafing a Luftwaffe airdrome. Gabreski would later score 6 more kills in the Korean War flying the F86 Sabre, he was a two war ace with 34 total kills.
Its a dogfighter if your smart, hit 'the brakes' and let 'Jerry overshoot you. P47 1 tough plane that can take hits..especially in the bubble canopy in 'D trim.
I was obsessed with "Dog fights" on history channel i could a cried when it was off air . I found this channel while ago. And ud definitely filled that void!!!
It's gotta be hard to replicate these stories with the correct outcomes. I mean that's amazing that you can just get rounds through the canopy and not kill the pilot or cause major damage. Keep up the good work, these are very entertaining!
I would like to mention that the P47 was not designed as a ground attack aircraft but as an escort fighter. The P47 was assigned ground attack missions only after the P51 superseded it in the bomber escort roll. Both P47 and P51 were used in ground attack missions as the need was encountered.
Met him and Bud at Miramar in the 80s along with Greg Boyington, some other Americans and a couple German and Japanese Aces. They had a different group each year but that was the most memorable. 1986 or 87 I believe. I went to six straight and three more with my squadron mates if HS-14 in the early 90s. We had a t-shirt booth to raise money for Sea Cadets and participated in 92.
Best evasive manoeuvre in other fighters= power dive or turn into opponent. Best evasive manoeuvre in a P47= Get out of the seat and run around the cockpit. That's what WW2 jug drivers themselves claimed.
The Thunderbolt, however clumsy it may have been at low altitude, was an exceptionally nimble fighting machine at 25,000 feet and above where the turbocharger fully maximized the performance of that beastly Pratt & Whitney R-2800 (which many a Luftwaffe pilot discovered to his horror). The Spitfire and Mustang may have been sexier, but pound for pound the P-47 was just as effective a fighter (if not even more so in a few respects such as survivability and firepower).
The P-47 was acknowledged as the fighter which destroyed more German aircraft than any of the others. It was the scourge of the Nazi war machine destroying the most ships, trains, bridges, aircraft, airfields, marshaling yards, armor, and vehicles. It had the highest survivability rate of any American aircraft during WWII. When the 56th fighter wing changed over to the P-51, there were many, including Francis Gabreski, who preferred the P-47.
Totally right, what is not considered often enough is that you are going to be attacked by surprised in a World War II scenario, so that there is a high likelihood you’re going to be killed as a fighter pilot, and because the thunderbolt was so tough, it was more likely to survive surprise attacks, so it’s pilots were more likely to survive and to gain experience while living to fight another day. Most of the top aces of the European theater that were Americans flew thunderbolts, and they all survived, even though some of them were shot down by ground fire. The thunderbolt also had great advantages over adversaries such as some maneuvers, such as a roll, Great maneuverability at high altitude, unsurpassed diving speed, and a top speed at altitude unsurpassed by any other piston engine aircraft. These are plenty enough to win the war. Not enough consideration is given to surviving an encounter where quite often you are the one that is surprised. I’m talking about the World War II scenario, things are different now in the age of missiles.
@@steveperreira5850 You've probably already read it, but if not I highly recommend "Thunderbolt", by Robert Johnson. He was a P-47 ace (27 kills) in World war two.
After the Allies broke out from Normandy most air combat ceased for about 2 months as the luftwaffe redeployed from their forward airbases that were being overrun back to the Reich. I know during Normandy at least air activities from both sides was pretty intense with 3800 Allied and 2300 German aircraft being lost or written off. Your buddy was probably flying during that down time it seems which was very lucky on his part lol!!
I've heard several times that most fighter pilots back perfered to fly the P-47 thunderbolt, I think it's a good looking fighter. If I had to go to war back then as a pilot, I would prefer to fly the thunderbolt more so than the Mustang.
Great video as always, your story telling is getting better. I truly believe you should do a two parter on a pilot or event. I have seen what you can do in fifteen minutes, but what about two fifteen minute episodes. What ever is better than 'epic', is how I'm sure it will turn out, if you choose to do it. Cheers, dude.
Nobody knows for sure if Jug was short for juggernaut or milk jug due to their appearance. That's one of those mysteries that the answer to has spun off into the universe forever and we'll never know for sure.
Glad I found your channel and am now a subscriber. Do you have a video about Charles Brown, Franz Stigler and the bomber Ye Olde Pub or do you plan on making one? Love that account and book A Higher Call. It should be made into a movie
If you're flying a P-47 and a 109 in front of you goes into a turn, *_roll_* the Jug _twice_ in the *_opposite_* direction, pull out, and the 109's belly should be just in front of your guns. Doesn't work all the time but it will work.
According to the pilots of the p-47s, it was a perilous, dangerous game strafing. Fly too low, and your screwed. There's a terrible piece of film footage of a p-47 coming in on a crash landing only to have the pilot burn to death while the ground crew tried in vain to save him. Man, it was ugly.
The survival rate of belly landing in a damaged P47 was so high most pilots opted to do that as opposed bailing out considering that to be more dangerous. There's two pictures that can be found online of P47's that had 500 pound bombs go off right underneath them on the runway, one had one fall off during a take off, and the other one had one fall off on landing after it wouldn't release during it's mission, both P47's are thoroughly trashed and both had their pilots walk away unharmed. More P47 aces survived the war than any other fighter on anyone's side.
Because corsair was a great plane, I think when you look at the whole situation in total, you are better off in air cooled engine airplanes because they are more survivable, and they are plenty enough maneuverable as fighter Aircraft. Speed kills, and this radio engine fighters had the speed to kill, if you have better speed capability, you have a huge advantage in the World War II scenario.
The 56th Fighter Group showed up in Europe and went on the offensive, they ripped a path through the Luftwaffe that they never recovered from. Hermann Goering's pet fighter group the "Abbeyville Boys" were the 56th main advisories right across the Channel on the French coast, after the 56th tore into them they'd hammered their big time aces out of the sky and driven them from the coast inland. As an example Robert Johnson's 5th kill, the one that made him an ace, was a German pilot who had over 200 kills under his belt. Those dumb Nazi asshole's never stood a chance.
I'll not slam you for the wimpy engine sounds on the other hand at 6:25 you disparage the P47s abilities. Suggest you find a copy of Robert Johnson's book "Thunderbolt!" and give it a read. He was America's second highest scoring ace in Europe during WWII. Of his 28 kills over 20 were against Bf 109s and FW 190s. The P47 was in the thick of bomber escort missions and actually had more kills attributed to it than the P51. (edit to add) the end of the mission has the P47 landing on a dirt/grass strip this is unlikely as the P47 was the heaviest single engine fighter of WWII weighing in at 5 tons empty (P47C introduced in 1943) and nearly 10 tons loaded with guns, ammo, bombs, rockets and fuel (P47D most common version late 43 through 45).
Sadly, it is incorrect that the P-47 is attributed more air kills than the P-51. Many sources say 3,752 air kills for the Thunderbolt, though this numbers varies quite a bit. I've heard up to 4,425. I believe the "real" number is right around 4,000. This does not include Pacific war kills, which I believe is around 500-600 for the Thunderbolt. The P-51, on the other hand, is commonly attributed 4,950 air kills in the European theater. However, this has a lot to do with the time both planes where used and the doctrine when they were used. (On average, the Thunderbolt shot down a much harder enemy as most of the Luftwaffe in '43 and early '44 was well trained and experienced. The P-51 also had a helping hand in that when it arrived on scene as the premier escort aircraft, U.S. doctrine was changed so fighters could leave the bombers and focus more on shooting down enemy planes rather than sticking by the bombers. Immense numbers later in the war also helped the 51's numbers.) Also, the P-47 commonly landed on dirt and grass throughout the war. I have no clue the point you are trying to make by saying it's heavy as if it can't do this. It landed on grass strips all the time.
Actually they were pretty quiet up there, at the low levels they fly at in air shows the wastegate dumps are open and the exhaust is coming out of them right at the cowling, above 7,000 ft or so the wastegate valve's close and the exhaust is diverted to the turbo then out the exhaust outlet on the bottom of the fuselage behind the pilot, by the time it goes through the ductwork and out the turbo they were notoriously quiet compared to other fighter's, the P38's were the same way.
@@steveperreira5850 A few Mk1B were fitted with 2 x 20mm Hispano canon in Sep 1940. Depending on which wing type was fitted armament could be 2 x 20mm + 4 x 303 or 4 x 20mm.
i fly the p47 a lot in il2 ,,,same sim as here.. But when i met 109s i almost alwais end up dead or crashland.. So its not so simple against those guys now in simulaters.. there much better then the guys back then ! much more hours and never really die,, lol.
The P47 Thunderbolt was the premiere fighter of WW2 IMHO, the mustang was lauded as the war winner but people forget it did,nt show up on the scene till late 1943, by that time most of the best german pilots were killed by attrition from flying daily since the war started. The P47 could do it all and excelled in ground attack and bomber escort, many say the P51 was better but so many WW2 fighter pilots like George Gabraskie, rob johnson, Hub zemke of the famed 56th fighter group REFUSED to switch over to the pretty boy with the vulnerable liquid cooled engine. The 56th fighter pilots racked up the highest air to air kills of any fighter group of the entire war ,flying P47,still wars end. The best accolade ever heard by a 47 pilot says it all.IF YOU WANNA GET THE GIRL FLY A 51, IF YOU WANNA MAKE IT HOME TO YOUR GIRL FLY A 47. It was,nt called the UNBREAKABLE for nothing. Many times 47,s brought their pilots home so shot up with pistons hanging out of shot out cylinders and oil drenching the sides of the planes yet the engine would not die. No 51 would ever stay flying after sustaining a quarter of the damage a 47 would take and just shrug off. 1 bullet in a coolant line and the 51 made you a POW. The 47 would bring you home .
I have yet to find a more intelligent fighter pilot from World War II then Robert S Johnson, and there were a lot of smart ones. That he killed some top German aces, it gives me great joy! I hate those Nazi bastards.
@@danraymond1253 My family lost someone who was a B24 navigator in the war, it's amazing the reports and other things I found online, 3 after action reports from crewmen on adjoining bombers and a missing aircraft report that I can even tell you the serial number's of the engine's on the plane the day it was shot down among other things. The level of detail is just amazing.
After 109 overshoots he should of put a few bursts in his tail..mistake, and could of had a potential kill, but depending on how much ammo left AND reserve fuel I had, I would be good to mix it up 1 more time. Robert at 66.
Only at lower altitudes, at 15,000 ft and up not only could one turn inside of a FW190 but it could actually gain altitude in it's tighter turn while the FW190 would lose altitude in it's wider turn, and the BF109 fared even worse against it when it comes to turning. And as far as low altitude and what "the book" says try reading Robert Johnson's book, 3 times in it describing low altitude fights he witnessed with FW190's against squadron mates of his he says, "I know what the book says about turning with FW190's at low altitudes but apparently _________ (fill in the blank with a squadron mates name) didn't read the book and I watched him turn inside of his opponent and line up a shot and flame him". He also says the same thing about a low altitude engagement he had with one where he said "I know what the book says about trying to turn with one at low altitudes but apparently I didn't read the book and got inside his turn and fired seeing hits in his right wing root and through his cockpit, he went in too low to bail out". So apparently the book wasn't that accurate.
Still working on that, haha. That is why I used DCS for the example at the start of the video. It works flawlessly in DCS but I believe there was some issue with the new VJOY system and Tobii. You can read on it here, it is supposed to work with the older version of Tobii software but I am still trying to figure that out. gaming.tobii.com/games/il-2-sturmovik-battle-stalingrad/
EarlyThunderbolts to me are a rather ugly/stubby looking plane until the 'bubble canopy' D trim variants came out with that 1950's jet canopy look.These models almost look svelte and sporty in comparison, and having that reduced deck back to the tail section.
Reality: In left turns, the P-47D Razorback, with needle tip prop, could hold its own in a turning dogfight, this on the deck with Me-109Gs... WHILE carrying 2 X 1000 lbs bombs!!! For more surprising facts, hear the detailed account of the attack on Aquapendente bridges here: th-cam.com/video/lCBOxbaxXBE/w-d-xo.html A bit more on this here: th-cam.com/video/NM9YFidJnmc/w-d-xo.html
@@windward563 No it's not ground pounding is how the allies won air supremacy and how the defeated Nazi Germany and Japan without having mass casualties as the Soviets.
the last set of mustangs produced almost at the end of the war was the most powerful has more power, speed and arament than the spitfire which was the pride of britain.
Would have been better without the commentary and the attack on the train should have been made front to back or back to front, not from the side....just sayin.'
@@thesmuggest6680 I see what you're saying, and would assume probably exactly this scenario did occur at some point in the war, but if he actually gave the name of the pilots involved or the mission or gave some sort of a bridge to reality it would be more informative and entertaining in my personal opinion
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P-47 fans might also enjoy an Emmy nominated TH-cam video entitled "Behind Enemy Lines" which features a 97 year old P-47 fighter pilot, Wally King, who flew 75 missions in France and Germany before being shot down and captured. My neighbor and friend, Wally and two other veterans will soon be presented the French Legion of Honor medal by the French Consul for their service in France during the war. It is an amazing story.
Dear A1: I will go watch the recommended movie, thank you for the tip. You have been very helpful, Steve
Thank you for the suggestion....i shall give it a look see
Thanks for the info, just watched that video, awesome.
Dark humor from the Wehrmacht in 44 and 45 , " If you look in the sky , and see a plane , and its black , its British . If you look into the sky , see a plane , and its silver , its American . If you look into the sky and see nothing , its the Luftwaffe "
"If you want to impress your girl, fly a Mustang. If you want to make it back to your girl, fly a Thunderbolt."
My old boss flew both in WW2. He loved the Jug and had some incredible stories.
So true. It was just epic reading this. Thanks.
I impress my girl flying IL2 flight sims.🤣
The jug gets the job done!
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My Grandfather piloted the Jug in WWII, bombing trains and convoys...I wondered how frequently they encountered enemy aircraft as a result. He flew 116 missions and retired to Florida so I'm guessing not a majority of the time. But, it also attests to how tanky they were.
It's all about destroying assests, the more you destroy the faster the war ends.
When P47's started being used primarily for ground attack they started losing pilots at a rate of ×4 then when they were being used as fighter's, your grandfather was in more danger doing that then fighting the Luftwaffe.
The P-47 was twice as big as an Me-109 and better armed with 8 x (50 caliber) machine guns. Enough times the Me-109's emptied their guns trying to shoot down a P-47 gave the P-47 pilots great confidence that they were invincible. 🤠
The nasty surprise of the Jug was that it was extremely fast and maneuverable above 30000 feet, the altitude at which it ha been designed to operate as a bomber interceptor. The four bladed prop made it dangerous from the deck to almost the stratosphere. Hell of a weapon.
The best of the German fighter pilots were killed by thunderbolt pilots over German held territory. The Germans were never able to replace these Experienced pilots at the same caliber of capability.
It really started to shine right around 15,000 ft because that's where the German fighter's performance started to drop due to their inferior supercharging systems.
I am no gamer and never will be, but I have gotten a little hooked on this stuff! Congrats to you folk for bringing the standard to this level. I have a soft spot for "The Jug", as well. What a beaut tough aeroplane she was. Thanks folks.
My father was in B-24's and loved seeing the Little Friends show up. Many times it the the Jug.
For any of you that had a father, grandfather or uncle that flew cover for the heavies, my thanks to them for their protection of the bomber streams.
My father flew a P-47 and over a 2 week period in November 1944 he shot down 3 FW-190s. While it was not as good in air-to-air combat its raw power and durability made up for much of its lack of maneuverability. However, it was by far the best close air support platform to come along during that period.
Over 25,000 ft it was.
By far ...mmm
Thanks to your father and his service! The Tempests or Typhoons were really great ground attack aircraft as well. 🇺🇸
Top-scoring ace in Europe at the end of the war with Gabby gabreski he flew p-47
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That was a brave and efficient but also very mature, level-headed, prudent, self-disciplined fighter pilot. A winning and living combination!
I love that real life story in World War 2, of the German fighter pilot that emptied his guns into a P-47 that just wouldn't go down. The Thunderbolt was returning home and out of ammo, and the German dumped some rounds into his 6 and then pulled alongside and shook his head at the pilot, then got back on his six and emptied his guns. When the Thunderbolt still didn't go down, he pulled alongside and saluted the P-47 pilot, and escorted him back to his line.
Its on the P-47 episode of dogfights.
sounds almost like Robert Johnson's episode, however he had been bounced while in formation, badly shot up, and unable to bail out due to damage received to the P47 he had ammunition, but wasn't able to respond when he was found by a German. He did make it back and went on to become America's second highest scoring ace in the ETO.
@@ret7army could be, it was years ago when I saw it.
Yes it was Robert Johnson.
@@foilist1 Wasn't that the guy who sang Sweet Home Chicago....... lol
@@ret7army Yes indeed, it was Robert S. Johnson, 56FG, he was the second highest scoring USAAF in ETO with 27 confirmed kills and he did manage to fire on the Luftwaffe pilot at one point but without effect. A fellow 56FG pilot named Francis S. Gabreski had 28 confirmed kills before striking the ground while strafing a Luftwaffe airdrome. Gabreski would later score 6 more kills in the Korean War flying the F86 Sabre, he was a two war ace with 34 total kills.
The P 47, nicknamed, the Jug, was one tough effective fighter.
@Prestallar 😂 what are you talking about it was perfectly capable as long as your boom and zoom and kept the speed up
Its a dogfighter if your smart, hit 'the brakes' and let 'Jerry overshoot you. P47 1 tough plane that can take hits..especially in the bubble canopy in 'D trim.
@Prestallar bro I think u played to much warthunder
I was obsessed with "Dog fights" on history channel i could a cried when it was off air . I found this channel while ago. And ud definitely filled that void!!!
Thanks!
It's gotta be hard to replicate these stories with the correct outcomes. I mean that's amazing that you can just get rounds through the canopy and not kill the pilot or cause major damage. Keep up the good work, these are very entertaining!
I love the graphics!
I would like to mention that the P47 was not designed as a ground attack aircraft but as an escort fighter. The P47 was assigned ground attack missions only after the P51 superseded it in the bomber escort roll. Both P47 and P51 were used in ground attack missions as the need was encountered.
I'd think the radiator on the Mustang's belly would be vulnerable to ground fire and make it not the best choice for the ground attack mission.
@@dieselyeti I believe the amount of bombs/rocket also helped the decision in using the p47 for ground attack
Met him and Bud at Miramar in the 80s along with Greg Boyington, some other Americans and a couple German and Japanese Aces. They had a different group each year but that was the most memorable. 1986 or 87 I believe. I went to six straight and three more with my squadron mates if HS-14 in the early 90s. We had a t-shirt booth to raise money for Sea Cadets and participated in 92.
Best evasive manoeuvre in other fighters= power dive or turn into opponent.
Best evasive manoeuvre in a P47= Get out of the seat and run around the cockpit.
That's what WW2 jug drivers themselves claimed.
Those who say the Jug can't dogfight don't know about Zemke's Wolfpack,56th fighter group, highest scoring fighter group in the ETO.
The Thunderbolt, however clumsy it may have been at low altitude, was an exceptionally nimble fighting machine at 25,000 feet and above where the turbocharger fully maximized the performance of that beastly Pratt & Whitney R-2800 (which many a Luftwaffe pilot discovered to his horror). The Spitfire and Mustang may have been sexier, but pound for pound the P-47 was just as effective a fighter (if not even more so in a few respects such as survivability and firepower).
@@jimbo6413 the Jug was a hot ship and very fast at high altitude and could hold its own against any Nazi fighter.
The P-47 was acknowledged as the fighter which destroyed more German aircraft than any of the others. It was the scourge of the Nazi war machine destroying the most ships, trains, bridges, aircraft, airfields, marshaling yards, armor, and vehicles. It had the highest survivability rate of any American aircraft during WWII. When the 56th fighter wing changed over to the P-51, there were many, including Francis Gabreski, who preferred the P-47.
The P-47 was faster and could take a hell of a lot more punishment than the 109. The P-47 was the fighter most likely to bring it's pilot home.
That's why I love the p-40 and p-47, you could probably ram an enemy plane with both and still come put with a broken prop or clipped wing.
@@bobuboi4643 Huh?
Totally right, what is not considered often enough is that you are going to be attacked by surprised in a World War II scenario, so that there is a high likelihood you’re going to be killed as a fighter pilot, and because the thunderbolt was so tough, it was more likely to survive surprise attacks, so it’s pilots were more likely to survive and to gain experience while living to fight another day. Most of the top aces of the European theater that were Americans flew thunderbolts, and they all survived, even though some of them were shot down by ground fire.
The thunderbolt also had great advantages over adversaries such as some maneuvers, such as a roll, Great maneuverability at high altitude, unsurpassed diving speed, and a top speed at altitude unsurpassed by any other piston engine aircraft. These are plenty enough to win the war.
Not enough consideration is given to surviving an encounter where quite often you are the one that is surprised. I’m talking about the World War II scenario, things are different now in the age of missiles.
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You've probably already read it, but if not I highly recommend "Thunderbolt", by Robert Johnson. He was a P-47 ace (27 kills) in World war two.
Bf109 can simply put turn and outclimb a p47.
I met a man that flew p47s in ground attack in Europe. He was my neighbor's grandfather. He did not see much air to air combat.
After the Allies broke out from Normandy most air combat ceased for about 2 months as the luftwaffe redeployed from their forward airbases that were being overrun back to the Reich. I know during Normandy at least air activities from both sides was pretty intense with 3800 Allied and 2300 German aircraft being lost or written off. Your buddy was probably flying during that down time it seems which was very lucky on his part lol!!
I've heard several times that most fighter pilots back perfered to fly the P-47 thunderbolt, I think it's a good looking fighter. If I had to go to war back then as a pilot, I would prefer to fly the thunderbolt more so than the Mustang.
TJ3 i like your Videos your the best
Great video as always, your story telling is getting better. I truly believe you should do a two parter on a pilot or event. I have seen what you can do in fifteen minutes, but what about two fifteen minute episodes. What ever is better than 'epic', is how I'm sure it will turn out, if you choose to do it. Cheers, dude.
P 51 Mustang was a.great plane also during WW 2! P 47 did.so well also!
5:31 - What an elegant bird!
*Amazing - all Wars should be fought like this !*
love the graphics and content ..the jug was short for juggernaut..cause nearly nothing would stop this plane
Nobody knows for sure if Jug was short for juggernaut or milk jug due to their appearance.
That's one of those mysteries that the answer to has spun off into the universe forever and we'll never know for sure.
TJ3 your the best
Now this is quality editing man! Wishing to play with you once again in war thunder man!
Thanks, your stuff is dope! Wish I was half as talented. Keep it up bro.
Great job on video , really enjoy them ,learn about the P47 ,the juggernaut
Enjoyed that do more WW 1and 2
These are good videos. Great camera work!
Glad you like them!
Glad I found your channel and am now a subscriber. Do you have a video about Charles Brown, Franz Stigler and the bomber Ye Olde Pub or do you plan on making one? Love that account and book A Higher Call. It should be made into a movie
The Germans knew those 8 .50 cal machine guns would ruin your day in about 1/2 a second and the plane itself was a bitch to take down.
Laugh in 30mm cannon
The highest scoring American aces in the two flew P-47s. It was designed for a high altitude bomber interceptor
I have been unde the impression that the 4.5" tube launched rockets were obsolete and the 5" HVAR was in use by D-Day.
keep up the good work
awesome
Very nice…
Nice video
Great video. Good job!
Great video!!
The P-47 Highline motor fuel mixture that would basically supercharged engine basically allowing you to get up to high altitude
Fun fact it actually did this paper take water into the engine in alcohol
If you're flying a P-47 and a 109 in front of you goes into a turn, *_roll_* the Jug _twice_ in the *_opposite_* direction, pull out, and the 109's belly should be just in front of your guns. Doesn't work all the time but it will work.
Yea was good I like the CGI affect . Those birds are rare now . Although models are good practical effects...
I believe most of us are wise enough to understand what's going on without your narration.
According to the pilots of the p-47s, it was a perilous, dangerous game strafing. Fly too low, and your screwed. There's a terrible piece of film footage of a p-47 coming in on a crash landing only to have the pilot burn to death while the ground crew tried in vain to save him. Man, it was ugly.
The survival rate of belly landing in a damaged P47 was so high most pilots opted to do that as opposed bailing out considering that to be more dangerous.
There's two pictures that can be found online of P47's that had 500 pound bombs go off right underneath them on the runway, one had one fall off during a take off, and the other one had one fall off on landing after it wouldn't release during it's mission, both P47's are thoroughly trashed and both had their pilots walk away unharmed.
More P47 aces survived the war than any other fighter on anyone's side.
The Corsair was good too
Because corsair was a great plane, I think when you look at the whole situation in total, you are better off in air cooled engine airplanes because they are more survivable, and they are plenty enough maneuverable as fighter Aircraft. Speed kills, and this radio engine fighters had the speed to kill, if you have better speed capability, you have a huge advantage in the World War II scenario.
A few hints that P-47 with its 850l machineguns 850 Cal's shooting in unison can spit out about 1,000 rounds for second
21st Century of the "Combat" TV series, where US Will never loose, even a poker game against the Germans.....
Buen video me gusta mucho cuando hablas bien
Beautiful. But you forgot to show his flaps deploy, even though the narrator described it.
I'd love to see your treatment of Zemke's Wolf Pack. That seems like a documentary subject made for you.
Yes do Zemke’s Wolf pack.
The 56th FG, of which Gabreskie and Johnson had part.
The 56th Fighter Group showed up in Europe and went on the offensive, they ripped a path through the Luftwaffe that they never recovered from.
Hermann Goering's pet fighter group the "Abbeyville Boys" were the 56th main advisories right across the Channel on the French coast, after the 56th tore into them they'd hammered their big time aces out of the sky and driven them from the coast inland.
As an example Robert Johnson's 5th kill, the one that made him an ace, was a German pilot who had over 200 kills under his belt.
Those dumb Nazi asshole's never stood a chance.
I'll not slam you for the wimpy engine sounds on the other hand at 6:25 you disparage the P47s abilities. Suggest you find a copy of Robert Johnson's book "Thunderbolt!" and give it a read. He was America's second highest scoring ace in Europe during WWII. Of his 28 kills over 20 were against Bf 109s and FW 190s. The P47 was in the thick of bomber escort missions and actually had more kills attributed to it than the P51. (edit to add) the end of the mission has the P47 landing on a dirt/grass strip this is unlikely as the P47 was the heaviest single engine fighter of WWII weighing in at 5 tons empty (P47C introduced in 1943) and nearly 10 tons loaded with guns, ammo, bombs, rockets and fuel (P47D most common version late 43 through 45).
Sadly, it is incorrect that the P-47 is attributed more air kills than the P-51. Many sources say 3,752 air kills for the Thunderbolt, though this numbers varies quite a bit. I've heard up to 4,425. I believe the "real" number is right around 4,000. This does not include Pacific war kills, which I believe is around 500-600 for the Thunderbolt. The P-51, on the other hand, is commonly attributed 4,950 air kills in the European theater. However, this has a lot to do with the time both planes where used and the doctrine when they were used. (On average, the Thunderbolt shot down a much harder enemy as most of the Luftwaffe in '43 and early '44 was well trained and experienced. The P-51 also had a helping hand in that when it arrived on scene as the premier escort aircraft, U.S. doctrine was changed so fighters could leave the bombers and focus more on shooting down enemy planes rather than sticking by the bombers. Immense numbers later in the war also helped the 51's numbers.) Also, the P-47 commonly landed on dirt and grass throughout the war. I have no clue the point you are trying to make by saying it's heavy as if it can't do this. It landed on grass strips all the time.
Being a AAA gunner in the back of a train would be the worst job ever.
The Jug was tough and could take some punishment .
Those P-47s sure as HELL don't sound like P-47s... PS- KILL that music, too...
Actually they were pretty quiet up there, at the low levels they fly at in air shows the wastegate dumps are open and the exhaust is coming out of them right at the cowling, above 7,000 ft or so the wastegate valve's close and the exhaust is diverted to the turbo then out the exhaust outlet on the bottom of the fuselage behind the pilot, by the time it goes through the ductwork and out the turbo they were notoriously quiet compared to other fighter's, the P38's were the same way.
What a BEAUTIFUL story and BEAUTIFUL WWII American fighter.
Hello TJ
Great CGI but they were pushing their luck not carrying invasion stripes! Terry Hadler
Like the mustang & p40 these planes were deadly wish the spitfire had better armament!!!
Depends on which Mk of Spitfire you are referring to.
It was a great mistake to have only 30 caliber machine gun’s on the Spitfire and hurricane during the first half of the war.
@@steveperreira5850 A few Mk1B were fitted with 2 x 20mm Hispano canon in Sep 1940. Depending on which wing type was fitted armament could be 2 x 20mm + 4 x 303 or 4 x 20mm.
The 47 is maneuverable at high altitude and if the nazi plane is caught in the fire of those 8 .50 caliber guns it’s toast.
i fly the p47 a lot in il2 ,,,same sim as here.. But when i met 109s i almost alwais end up dead or crashland.. So its not so simple against those guys now in simulaters.. there much better then the guys back then ! much more hours and never really die,, lol.
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Whats your next build , a Jug maybe. ?
better if there were no narration, I can see he's attacking train, rather hear engine roars, guns blazing
Have you thought of doing a video about rober s johnson p47 ace. Check out german ace taunts a p47c
The P47 Thunderbolt was the premiere fighter of WW2 IMHO, the mustang was lauded as the war winner but people forget it did,nt show up on the scene till late 1943, by that time most of the best german pilots were killed by attrition from flying daily since the war started. The P47 could do it all and excelled in ground attack and bomber escort, many say the P51 was better but so many WW2 fighter pilots like George Gabraskie, rob johnson, Hub zemke of the famed 56th fighter group REFUSED to switch over to the pretty boy with the vulnerable liquid cooled engine. The 56th fighter pilots racked up the highest air to air kills of any fighter group of the entire war ,flying P47,still wars end. The best accolade ever heard by a 47 pilot says it all.IF YOU WANNA GET THE GIRL FLY A 51, IF YOU WANNA MAKE IT HOME TO YOUR GIRL FLY A 47. It was,nt called the UNBREAKABLE for nothing. Many times 47,s brought their pilots home so shot up with pistons hanging out of shot out cylinders and oil drenching the sides of the planes yet the engine would not die. No 51 would ever stay flying after sustaining a quarter of the damage a 47 would take and just shrug off. 1 bullet in a coolant line and the 51 made you a POW. The 47 would bring you home .
Do one about Robert Johnson.
I have yet to find a more intelligent fighter pilot from World War II then Robert S Johnson, and there were a lot of smart ones. That he killed some top German aces, it gives me great joy! I hate those Nazi bastards.
The first pilot must have been very inexperienced, playing so much towards the strengths of the p47 and against those of the bf-109.
My dad flew the jug scored 2 kills on BF109s 1944 said she was a flying tank
Do you happen to have any footage or combat reports? That would be awesome to see if you wouldn't mind sharing! I thank you for his service.
@@danraymond1253 Nothing from when he was flying the Jug sorry all of that material is in storage right now
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My family lost someone who was a B24 navigator in the war, it's amazing the reports and other things I found online, 3 after action reports from crewmen on adjoining bombers and a missing aircraft report that I can even tell you the serial number's of the engine's on the plane the day it was shot down among other things.
The level of detail is just amazing.
i am looking to get into il2 WT is getting old ,i am looking at maybe getting the bodenplatte map ,is this a good choice ?
which joystick do you use?
I have a thrustmaster T Flight X. Relatively cheaper model, but works great!
@@TJ3 thank you.
After 109 overshoots he should of put a few bursts in his tail..mistake, and could of had a potential kill, but depending on how much ammo left AND reserve fuel I had, I would be good to mix it up 1 more time. Robert at 66.
Yeah and stall at low altitude
How is the 'stall'..just because they were carbuerated and not fuel injection?..Robert at 67.
Bogus. P47 carried 3800 rounds of 50 caliber ammo. That goes through locomotive boilers. P47 specs exceed the BF109 except turn radius.
Only at lower altitudes, at 15,000 ft and up not only could one turn inside of a FW190 but it could actually gain altitude in it's tighter turn while the FW190 would lose altitude in it's wider turn, and the BF109 fared even worse against it when it comes to turning.
And as far as low altitude and what "the book" says try reading Robert Johnson's book, 3 times in it describing low altitude fights he witnessed with FW190's against squadron mates of his he says, "I know what the book says about turning with FW190's at low altitudes but apparently _________ (fill in the blank with a squadron mates name) didn't read the book and I watched him turn inside of his opponent and line up a shot and flame him".
He also says the same thing about a low altitude engagement he had with one where he said "I know what the book says about trying to turn with one at low altitudes but apparently I didn't read the book and got inside his turn and fired seeing hits in his right wing root and through his cockpit, he went in too low to bail out".
So apparently the book wasn't that accurate.
Hoolywood movie
Those Germans were lucky it wasn't Robert Johnson or they would not have made it home.
Can anyone do Kidd Hofer Last of the screwball aces?
Wait a minute! Our hero apparently bailed on his own wingman. I'm not an expert on this, but it seems wrong.
No flaps on the landing.
Is CoD a totally different game to FB?
Brother, how did you get Tobii Eye tracker to work with IL2? I can't get mine to work with it.
Still working on that, haha. That is why I used DCS for the example at the start of the video. It works flawlessly in DCS but I believe there was some issue with the new VJOY system and Tobii. You can read on it here, it is supposed to work with the older version of Tobii software but I am still trying to figure that out. gaming.tobii.com/games/il-2-sturmovik-battle-stalingrad/
@@TJ3 thanks for the response, its a great system though hopfully it will be resolved soon. Great bideos by the way!
@@Midas8610 I agree, I really want to use it in IL2. And thanks!
He didn't hit the locomotive as you said.
EarlyThunderbolts to me are a rather ugly/stubby looking plane until the 'bubble canopy' D trim variants came out with that 1950's jet canopy look.These models almost look svelte and sporty in comparison, and having that reduced deck back to the tail section.
GlenMcIntyre flew one
All the comments are people telling us what we already know to about the video
Name of the song? Please *.*
Hello, it is song number nine on this video. th-cam.com/video/W4bXm1WhpLA/w-d-xo.html
@@TJ3 thanks bro :)))
This never happened did it?
did not know mustangs were fighter bomers i taught they were only fighters, learn something new today lol.
Reality: In left turns, the P-47D Razorback, with needle tip prop, could hold its own in a turning dogfight, this on the deck with Me-109Gs... WHILE carrying 2 X 1000 lbs bombs!!! For more surprising facts, hear the detailed account of the attack on Aquapendente bridges here: th-cam.com/video/lCBOxbaxXBE/w-d-xo.html A bit more on this here: th-cam.com/video/NM9YFidJnmc/w-d-xo.html
Swiss 109s V's German 109s....and everything with wings and a bad navigator 🤪
Why does your mission always ground attack for the allies do a fighter sweep mission over Germany and then get intercepted I would like to see that.
because ground pounding is underrated
@@windward563 No it's not ground pounding is how the allies won air supremacy and how the defeated Nazi Germany and Japan without having mass casualties as the Soviets.
You mean like just an allied fighter patrol?
@@TJ3 Yeah
@@TJ3 Also sorry if that came out rude I love your content still.
Always kill the locomotive first.
The Messerschmitt 109 its Better than a p47
the last set of mustangs produced almost at the end of the war was the most powerful has more power, speed and arament than the spitfire which was the pride of britain.
Would have been better without the commentary and the attack on the train should have been made front to back or back to front, not from the side....just sayin.'
No
@@adamjaquay4279 agree to disagree
Lol
Is he just narrating himself playing a game or is there a basis in reality to the story?
He's recreating historical events in war thunder Customs. Kind of impressive if you ask me.
@@thesmuggest6680 I see what you're saying, and would assume probably exactly this scenario did occur at some point in the war, but if he actually gave the name of the pilots involved or the mission or gave some sort of a bridge to reality it would be more informative and entertaining in my personal opinion
@@pgottsha84 I get you.
@@thesmuggest6680 Not WT at all, but IL-2 Great Battles, a much more detailed and realistic flight sim.
@@wilburabrams6519 ?
Video Muzak !! Turn sound off and read under titles. Mindless Gaming video no succinct History narrative.