Death of George Earl Preddy Jr - Top P-51 Mustang ace of WWII | 26.83 victories - 25th December 1944

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  • On the evening of Christmas Day 1944, Major George Earl ‘Ratsy’ Preddy Jr. led a flight of 10 P-51 Mustangs of 328th Fighter Squadron, 352nd Fighter Group on a patrol over Bonn, Germany. After being directed towards Liège, Belgium, Preddy pursued a lone Fw 190 D-9 at ground level to the SE of Aachen. Preddy was observed to fire on the Fw 190 before US anti-aircraft gunners began firing at Preddy's fighter. He was last seen in a shallow inverted dive as he bailed out and hit the ground.
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    Death of the Mustang Super Ace by John R. Beaman Jr. with Samuel L. Sox Jr, Air War Publications.
    George Preddy, Top Mustang Ace, by Joe Noah and Samuel L. Sox, Motorbooks International, 1991, from www.preddy-foun...
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  • @airwarchronicles
    @airwarchronicles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This video was a bit late this week, been very busy! If you would like to read the account I based this video on follow this link: www.preddy-foundation.org/preddy-bios/george-preddy/
    Historical discrepancy: the P-51s should have external drop tanks but this is not modelled in IL-2. The Bf 109s that Preddy shot down may have been Fw. Fritz Koal and Fw. Karl-Heinz Schroder of II./JG 27. Koal was flying a Bf 109G-10 (WNr.490180) "Yellow 14". Schroder in "Yellow 9" was flying (WNr.785756) a Bf 109G-14/AS.

    • @LeopardIL2
      @LeopardIL2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is okay.
      Great video as always!

    • @kaa8643
      @kaa8643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      always thx for the great videos! How about Wilhelm-ferdinand Galland's last flight for the next video? He was shot down by Walker M Mahurin(USAAF 8th AF 56th FG, 24.25 kills form WW2+Korean war).

    • @inkycat7167
      @inkycat7167 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oof

    • @mark109s
      @mark109s 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Soto, my grandfather was a P 51 pilot and said anytime they saw the enemy they would drop their external tanks. Once they drop their external tanks he said the engine would hesitate for about four seconds and they would pursue the enemy. Great job on all your videos.

    • @jeanneguderian6651
      @jeanneguderian6651 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      By December 1944 they were flying from mainland Europe…. Did they always use drop tanks in that case? I do not know, asking as legitimate question.

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder4376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Mistakes are inevitable in war, that it happened in the way it did is tragic. Such is war.

  • @wakeywakey6388
    @wakeywakey6388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Such a tragedy to be killed by your own countrymen. He was a courageous and gifted pilot. RIP Major Preddy.

    • @mitch_the_-itch
      @mitch_the_-itch ปีที่แล้ว

      Frustration. In War and outside of it their is always an idiot with his head up his arse just waiting to do something stupid to everyone around him.

    • @BrianWMay
      @BrianWMay ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed. Several RAF Typhoons were shot down by American fighters when operating over France after D-Day. Yes, it's gutting.

  • @samueledgarpegram7088
    @samueledgarpegram7088 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ❤Preddy was from Greensboro, NC. There is a road named after him. My father worked some with his dad on the railroad. Mr. Preddy lost both of his sons in the war, George’s brother was a pilot also.

  • @jrhamilton4448
    @jrhamilton4448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Hence the reason for invasion stripes on D day. In previous unannounced top secret missions dozens upon dozens of allied fighters were lost due to friendly fire.

    • @ancientheart2532
      @ancientheart2532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep. So dang sad. RIP.

    • @jacktattis
      @jacktattis ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is why RAF pilots avoided areas where the USArmy were operating when doing G/A

    • @raystapp4001
      @raystapp4001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, sometimes the P51 mustangs were mistaken for ME109s. Was told this by a P51 pilot year's ago.

    • @jrhamilton4448
      @jrhamilton4448 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raystapp4001 Yes, I've heard stories about them being furious that their own flack gunners often got quite trigger happy at the sight of anything resembling an me109.

  • @californiajack82
    @californiajack82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    These are really great videos. Very well researched and put together. Thank you so much. Please do one on Klaus Mietusch of JG26 vs Bill Beyer from 361st FG on 17 September 1944. That would be a fascinating one to watch. Keep up the good work.

  • @wildcolonialman
    @wildcolonialman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fabulous graphics, fabulous and important telling. Remarkable man, stunningly sad demise.

  • @jackmunday7602
    @jackmunday7602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    They really should make a feature length film on the life and death of George Preddy. Providing Holywood don't mess it up and stick to the historic records. It could really be something special. His fantastic story has got all the right elements. Action, adventure, comedy, romance, drama and above all else, tragedy.

    • @hertzair1186
      @hertzair1186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Hollywood will never stick to facts

    • @AceCmbatguy25
      @AceCmbatguy25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They'll ruin it one way or another

    • @MrKen-wy5dk
      @MrKen-wy5dk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What universe are you from?

    • @Retroscoop
      @Retroscoop 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Comedy ?

    • @boyteebah3794
      @boyteebah3794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if they do, i hope they cast eddie murphy as george preddy

  • @infantryattacks
    @infantryattacks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent video. Most informative. Thank you.

  • @garyrunnalls7714
    @garyrunnalls7714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kudos for getting the last Cripes perfectly painted with barber pole etc👍

  • @buglover-qb1dq
    @buglover-qb1dq ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Knew one of these P-51 pilots back in the early 90's! I asked him if he ever got shot down? He said. No, but he had been shot up... RIP Henry Baker

  • @linuschan39
    @linuschan39 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Your skins are amazing as usual 👍

  • @brunotulliani
    @brunotulliani 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video thanks "mate!". God speed Mr. Preddy

  • @timf2279
    @timf2279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Preddy managed to release his canopy but was unable to bail out before his aircraft hit the ground at high speed. Although the shallow angle of impact meant the crash was potentially survivable, his wounds from .50-caliber machine gun fire were mortal.

  • @americanpatriot2422
    @americanpatriot2422 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @Wadaryu1000
    @Wadaryu1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you George Earl Preddy Jr - Top P-51 Mustang ace - RIP.

    • @Sagiterrian77
      @Sagiterrian77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      His brother, William, was also a P-51 pilot- killed by enemy groin fire

    • @Sagiterrian77
      @Sagiterrian77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry- I was in a bouncing vehicle- that’s ground fire- the same thing that got the Red Baron. How many know Predators was the top Mustang ace?

  • @chriswoodside5385
    @chriswoodside5385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Have you ever considered doing a video on Soviet ace Ivan Kozhedub (60 kills) and the incident with the USAAF P-51s on 17 April 1945? Or the incident between Soviet and USAAF P-38s caused by Luftwaffe at Nis, Yugoslavia on 7 November 1944? These are slightly different stories that aren't well publicised

    • @airwarchronicles
      @airwarchronicles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Im planning on doing the incident at Nis when the Yak 3 is released in IL-2

    • @T_bone
      @T_bone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is based on game play!?!? What game??? 😮😮😮😮

    • @PanzerLehr88
      @PanzerLehr88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Chris Woodside I can smell a Red Bolshevik Soviet Communist SYMPATHIZER in you for every German fighter loss in the Eastern Front the Red Soviets loss 20 "THE GERMANS LUFTWAFFE GOT OUTMAN AND OUTGUN. THE SOVIETS PILOTS NEVER CAME CLOSE TO THE TALENTED FIGHTER PILOTS OF THE THIRD REICH, BRITISH, AMERICANS OR JAPANESE

    • @chriswoodside5385
      @chriswoodside5385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@PanzerLehr88 and you sound like an American. Personally I like to hear about unusual events that happen(ed), I don't usually care what nationality is involved.

    • @darthracer777
      @darthracer777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@airwarchronicles If you research that 'incident' Kozhedub had with those 'P-51s', you'll find out it wasn't against P-51s. The guy was confused or it was just disinformation.

  • @johnshields6852
    @johnshields6852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's great to show his battle record, I'm a military fanatic, I'm 62 from Boston, USA, it's from guys like him and all who served and those who serve now that I have freedoms which I treasure, I have relatives who've fought in every war since WW1 to Iraq war. I'm beyond grateful to all that give us our freedom.🇺🇸🙏🇬🇧

  • @michaelsteiner6500
    @michaelsteiner6500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good things happen.
    Cheers

  • @maureencora1
    @maureencora1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sad, Heaven is for Heroes. May He R.I.P.

  • @collinmccallum
    @collinmccallum ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing! Liked and subscribed!

  • @MrLemonbaby
    @MrLemonbaby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are very enjoyable vids, thank you very much.
    Better than twenty years ago I read every book on WWII pilots I could get my hands on. I preface with this because I can't say for certain that the story I'm about to relate was about Preddy but I think such is so, and hope, if not, to be forgiven.
    One time Preddy walked into a pub where Brit and American military often took their dates. He looked around, walked over to two ladies, whispered in their ears and they immediately walked away from their British dates and followed him out the door!
    Another time, as the stories go, it was a rule on his base that women were not allowed in a pilot's room. A general made a surprise inspection threw open Preddy's door and found him with two women! The general backed out, closed the door and was heard to mutter under his breath, "The rule is a woman, it doesn't say anything about two women".

  • @troyfreefly
    @troyfreefly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Major Preddy's two victories that day were actually Fw. Fritz Koal and Fw. Karl-Heinz Schroder of II./JG 27. Koal was flying a Bf 109G-10 (WNr.490180) "Yellow 14". Schroder in "Yellow 9" was flying (WNr.785756) a Bf 109G-14/AS. Both Koal and Schroder were forced to bail out when they were shot down by Preddy over the town of Adenau. Schroder was only slightly wounded and remained on operations with 6 Staffel.
    Koal was seriously wounded and did not return to his unit until March,1945. In April he added three more victories to the pair of P-51s and P-47 that he scored on September 27, 1944. His sixth confirmed victory, a P-47 was scored on April 16 , 1945. On April 30, 1945 the last six Bf-109s of 6 Staffel, JG 27 flew to Leck AFB (a small base in northern Germany near Denmark) and surrendered. My data is based on copies of JG 27 missing aircrew reports for 1944 & 45 that are in my files. In addition I received a letter from Koal in 1998 or 1999 which was later published in the book "Bluenoser Tales".

    • @airwarchronicles
      @airwarchronicles  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting. I believe I saw these two and the ones named in the video listed as 'possibly shot down' by Preddy. Ill add a note to my pinned comment.

    • @randykelso4079
      @randykelso4079 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@airwarchronicles You may also want to note that the source material in the pinned comment now seems to be a bum link.

  • @CollectorChronicles
    @CollectorChronicles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The FW-190 pilot was probably like “aallllrighty then...” 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @Krapfelapfen
      @Krapfelapfen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder he survived and who he is? Or died probably the same day due to hits caused by Pretty.

  • @billk8579
    @billk8579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video. Terrible to have lost his life in that way. Wonder what happened to the anti-aircraft gunners. A new subscriber.

  • @didierdenice7456
    @didierdenice7456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It didn't take long for the Europeans to notice how much the Americans 🇺🇲 were all "gun happy" shooting at just about anything that moved... without looking twice.
    A cow in a pasture... an old civilian man riding a bicycle on a countryside road...
    You know how good it feels to expand all those free ammo ! 💪💪

    • @brittongodman7769
      @brittongodman7769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is your statement on the Americans being ''gun happy'' supposed to be some type of defense for the actions of Adolf Hitler and his murderous thug regime of Nazi Socialist ?

    • @didierdenice7456
      @didierdenice7456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brittongodman7769 ??? 🤨 Do you actually have anything connecting your neurones together... or you just let them loose ?

    • @tonyclough9844
      @tonyclough9844 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Americans bombed my father in Italy and destroyed the artillery, they said when the leader dropped his bombs they all did.

    • @jackd1582
      @jackd1582 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's the same in their cinemas

    • @marchansel7296
      @marchansel7296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My dad was 6 years old 1945 Germany..He saw alot of straffing,,cattle etc ,,even Farmers harvesting crops etc .He was to young to know if they where russian ,USAF or RAF,,But they where definetly single propeller planes he says..

  • @gisterme2981
    @gisterme2981 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's not the story told by Preddy's wingman about that day. He said Preddy crash landed his mustang. US soldiers that rushed to the crash site
    said the plane landed well enough that they thought the pilot would have survived; but Preddy was found dead in the cockpit, having been directly hit by 50cal fire. This is a well documented account of the tragedy. It's hard to imagine, but Soto Cinematics must not have done any real research before making up this story. 'Makes me wonder about the veracity of their other "last flight" accounts.

    • @airwarchronicles
      @airwarchronicles  ปีที่แล้ว

      This is not made up but based on recent research found in 'Death of the Mustang Super Ace' by John R. Beaman Jr. with Samuel L. Sox Jr, Air War Publications.

  • @JasperJokerII
    @JasperJokerII 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A hero among heroes

  • @RogueAce93
    @RogueAce93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    He was SO close to becoming the top ace in the ETO! Imagine what he could’ve pulled off over Y-29 on Jan. 1, 1945! Sadly, it’s the unpredictable nature of war that prevented him from accomplishing that. Even more is that he didn’t get to marry his Aussie sweetheart Joan Jackson (they met while he was flying in defense of Darwin).

    • @jerryjeromehawkins1712
      @jerryjeromehawkins1712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      To his credit... he was the top Mustang ace of the war with 26.83 kills. ( .83 for shared kills )
      👍🏾🇺🇸

    • @RogueAce93
      @RogueAce93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jerryjeromehawkins1712 I was just thinking hypothetically if fate, or bad luck, hadn’t intervened.

    • @haroldgodwinson832
      @haroldgodwinson832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why anyone would give a crap about becoming the "top ace in the ET" is beyond me. Most people involved in wars aren't looking to become the top anything. They just want to survive the horrors of war and make it home.

    • @nellyprice
      @nellyprice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@haroldgodwinson832 and that's why people overclaimed. Glory trumps humility

    • @haroldgodwinson832
      @haroldgodwinson832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nellyprice One shouldn't talk generalities in such circumstances but I doubt most of the airmen "overclaimed" as you suggest. I suspect in most cases they actually believed they had destroyed enemy aircraft. However, a hostile air environment is no place to dither about 'confirming kills'; not if you want to stay alive that is. And the truth of it is; most people do want to stay alive.

  • @Dv087
    @Dv087 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A big question I'm left with is whether or not was he hit by any of the projectiles preventing him for climbing enough or deploying his parachute?

  • @kienthunder4974
    @kienthunder4974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can you do about Heinrich Ehrler ?

  • @Desertduleler_88
    @Desertduleler_88 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The fortunes of war guarantee nothing.

  • @RenKnight347
    @RenKnight347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's unfortunate that these kinds of events take place.
    I knew that Major Preddy died on Christmas Day, 1944. I didn't know that he bailed from his aircraft at such a low altitude or that his chute deployed tragically too late.
    With this event taking place after the Normandy Invasion, I guess that I have often assumed that all Allied aircraft were painted with the "Invasion stripes" to help minimize the possibilities of "friendly-fire" incidences.
    We will never know even if they had been painted, if it may have made the difference. Those anti-aircraft gun crews likely were themselves on such the knife's edge by that point in the war.

  • @Frankie5Angels150
    @Frankie5Angels150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That’s what we call a “Polish parachute”: Opens on impact.

  • @vstar7196
    @vstar7196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I find hard to believe is the American gunners couldn’t distinguish between an FW-190 and a P-51D at tree top level. All gunners were schooled in aircraft recognition for the very reason not to shoot at American or British planes. War is hell.

    • @jacktattis
      @jacktattis ปีที่แล้ว

      Not Americans: a RAF pilot was bounced by two P38s He even did a half roll and showed them the Double Ellipse Wing of his Spitfire They still shot him down The Sqn I think it was in Italy were bloody mad To calm things down the USAAF F/G commander paid the RAF pilot a visit in Hospital .
      It happened a lot.It was one of the main reasons that the RAF were reluctant to escort US bombers as the RAF planes were cammed the US planes not painted but silver . And the RAF were often fired upon

  • @Bodneyblue
    @Bodneyblue 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I once had a website dedicated to Major Preddy..It ran from late 1999 to around 2014 before the server that hosted it was closed down....I also flew in MS Combat Flight Simulator for years under the name of his aircraft..until again the server hosting the game closed. And have corrisponded with a number of folks on the subject...Like Sam Sox and and George's cousin Joe Noah...Joe signed my copy of his book....I also have a signed copy of the groups history book.

  • @johnstanley7442
    @johnstanley7442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice looking renderings, but, for future reference, or for hobbyists wanting to do a "Preddy" model, his plane did not HAVE a fin filet, which was sometimes retrofitted, in the field,
    and which had, by then, gone-on to become standard, from the factory, as the D model matured. ALSO, planes of this unit were flying WITHOUT that wire antenna shown in this video, and the usual metal "eyelet" that you'd see installed in the bubble canopy's back slope, aft of where you'd see OTHER P-51's with that sort of wire running from the back of the armor plate head rest-area
    of the armored pilot's seat back towards the vertical stabilizer. These wires were kept-taut, whether the canopy was open or shut, by spring-mounting end-fixtures on MANY D or K-
    model Mustangs, but NOT from this unit, nor on OTHER Mustangs which you'll often see incorrectly-shown mounting them, like on renderings of "Big Beautiful Doll," and so-on. Instead, there
    would be a small, Plexiglas plug covering the hole through which the wire would run, on planes so-equipped.
    This was a pretty depressing thing to have happen to your top P-51 ace, on Christmas Day, due to "friendly fire," (which ISN'T), when the Battle of the Bulge was already bad-enough, as it was!

  • @davidmcleod7757
    @davidmcleod7757 ปีที่แล้ว

    friendly fire sucks rip Preddy you seved this nation well and god bless

  • @ALA-uv7jq
    @ALA-uv7jq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Many friendly fire incidents in WW2 by Allies. Some even claimed as victories.

    • @paulfrantizek102
      @paulfrantizek102 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      John Godfrey was shot down by his own wingman.

  • @CarlCorley-x1z
    @CarlCorley-x1z ปีที่แล้ว

    How about doing one on Pierce McKennon's rescue by his wingman George Green! His story is movie worthy.

  • @peterkin1010
    @peterkin1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here was me thinking all Allied aircraft in the ETO had black and white stripes on both the wings and fuselage. Horrible way to go being killed in a 'friendly fire' incident.

    • @tempestfury8324
      @tempestfury8324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The black and white stripes , aka invasion stripes, were used only during and after the D-Day invasion 6 June 1944.

  • @spytrig6560
    @spytrig6560 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the context of accuracy, the Belgian city of Liège sounds more like Lee-ezh, as in general Lee followed by a prolonged E (of Explain) and a thick sounding Z at the end.

  • @weltonreds
    @weltonreds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    The American military have a gift for friendly fire.

    • @simpedros4766
      @simpedros4766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      World leaders

    • @Frankie5Angels150
      @Frankie5Angels150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Everybody does. Grunts don’t know how to pull lead.

    • @swaders
      @swaders ปีที่แล้ว

      Guy Gibson was killed by friendly fire.

  • @pgroove163
    @pgroove163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    P- 51.. game changer

    • @jacktattis
      @jacktattis ปีที่แล้ว

      No it was the ever developing Spitfire that was the game changer

  • @T_bone
    @T_bone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is made more tragic by the blue on blue. I wonder if the anti-air ground forces in that area had briefings as to friendly air assets operating in their AO in that time period. Fog of war and Murphy...

  • @blitzblutz
    @blitzblutz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In sports and war you have the dreaded "own goal". Almost impossible to avoid unfortunately.

  • @larryking7
    @larryking7 ปีที่แล้ว

    A real sad end.

  • @blackdogEarthworxLLC
    @blackdogEarthworxLLC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    He was from my hometown. They named a road in his honor.

  • @thomaslore730
    @thomaslore730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I thought Preddy was killed after a 0.50 cal round hit him in the head and crash landed his P-51D with him inside it???

    • @airwarchronicles
      @airwarchronicles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      According to the first source listed in the description, that was what they originally thought happened to Preddy but it was another pilot. It was later found from several eyewitness that he was probably wounded by the ground fire and was seen to bail out too low.

  • @grizzly4736
    @grizzly4736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fun fact, Maj. Preddy was nursing a massive hangover when he downed those six German fighters. This man deserves his own big budget film.

    • @jacktattis
      @jacktattis ปีที่แล้ว

      Fun fact Sqn Leader A.A MacKeller got 20 in 25 days before being KIA Nov 1940 flying a 316 mph Hurricane Not a 436 mph P51D

    • @jacktattis
      @jacktattis ปีที่แล้ว

      No try to do one on Pat Pattle Ace in a day twice in an old Hurricane

  • @TheIndianalain
    @TheIndianalain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Most fighter pilots were more scared by AA fire (even their own!) than by enemy fighters.

    • @nicomeier8098
      @nicomeier8098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Most American fighter pilots engaged numerical inferior forces and later in the war a lot of German pilots with only basic training...

    • @orlandonavarro5674
      @orlandonavarro5674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That happened to the Germans on Jan 1, '45, as their Flak defenses had not been alerted of the imminent raid so as to catch the Allies completely by surprise.

    • @shannonmonroe5873
      @shannonmonroe5873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nicomeier8098And you can say the same thing about the Germans at the start of the war in Russia. Against inferior machines and poorly trained Russian pilots. So what? A kill is a kill.

    • @observergoldstein3709
      @observergoldstein3709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shannonmonroe5873 u mad bro

    • @shannonmonroe5873
      @shannonmonroe5873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@observergoldstein3709 No just an observer ..

  • @sr.agrario366
    @sr.agrario366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Extinction of a preddytor.

  • @orlandonavarro5674
    @orlandonavarro5674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    To make a long story short, he was shot down and killed by friendly fire... His own countrymen took out the nº 1 fighter pilot they had in Europe ! Some imbecile bastards ! How could they mistake a Mustang for a 190...?

    • @jeanneguderian6651
      @jeanneguderian6651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      German gunners had simple method for aircraft ID:
      1) Silver airplanes = American
      2) Green airplanes = British or Russian
      3) No airplanes = Luftwaffe

    • @noteimportax6477
      @noteimportax6477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They mistook the mustang for a bf 109 not a fw 190 karma is a bi...ch aint it?

    • @popogejo7245
      @popogejo7245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Orlando; you weren't there that day, were you? Didn't think so!!!! It's war, shit happens.

    • @noteimportax6477
      @noteimportax6477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeanneguderian6651 no airplanes? You forgot bodenplatte eh?

    • @jacktattis
      @jacktattis ปีที่แล้ว

      Not the No 1 that would have been Gabreski or Johnson

  • @disillusionedone9282
    @disillusionedone9282 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So question for you all. What do you need in a pc to play modern flight sims.

  • @alvarvillalongamarch3894
    @alvarvillalongamarch3894 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a tragic death for such a heroic airman.Bad luck flying behind a foe over a friendly aerodrome where all the artillerymen are on edge!Just plain tragedy!

  • @anselmdanker9519
    @anselmdanker9519 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blue on blue, very tragic .

  • @jimcurt99
    @jimcurt99 ปีที่แล้ว

    tragic... great video. But I'm curious- how do you get 26.83 kills? Why not just round up and make it 27?? .83 seems oddly specific...

    • @airwarchronicles
      @airwarchronicles  ปีที่แล้ว

      This number comes from shared victories i.e. 1/3 + 1/2 = 0.33 + 0.5, thus 0.83

  • @jefffriedberg
    @jefffriedberg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A SAD TALE.

  • @walterschumann2476
    @walterschumann2476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would the Dora pilot get credit for 2 kills, by bringing the Mustangs into a AA zone?

    • @Solihull88
      @Solihull88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Not, because german Fighter pilots Gott only Kills when having two wittnesses. There we're No half Kills or .25 Kills at the Luftwaffes Killcount...

  • @jarikinnunen1718
    @jarikinnunen1718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The 20 mm flak was wery effective, told one air force veteran. It was also radar assisted.

  • @conceptalfa
    @conceptalfa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So were there ever any consequences for this friendly fire????

    • @mark109s
      @mark109s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, they covered it up and away from the press. Can you imagine the American readers seeing that the top mustang ace was killed by his own AA guns. Friendly fire

    • @conceptalfa
      @conceptalfa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mark109s didn't these guys manning the AA guns have any binoculars so they could make sure what the heck they are shooting at???

    • @conceptalfa
      @conceptalfa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mark109s as well as the Mustang Merlin engines sound differently from the Mercedes once in M 109:s????

    • @mark109s
      @mark109s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@conceptalfa ,, I don’t know, one would think they should have!

    • @jacktattis
      @jacktattis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@conceptalfa Try focusing on a plane doing 350 mph Jinking side to side

  • @dogtagx2
    @dogtagx2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So.....can you do the research and tell the story of the gunners who shot him down?? I am a retired Paratrooper from the 82nd Airborne Division, 1/320th AFAR, and the 2/319th AFAR. Being an Artilleryman, it has ALWAYS been the code of “CHECK AND VERIFY” your target!! If we shoot wrong, we are Court Martialed, and if found guilty of violating our firing orders or procedures, we are sent to prison if it results in a death, or Chaptered out of the military with a dishonorable discharge is no death occurred. It bothers me, and troubles me that many of the commenters just say things like “well that was war and things like that happen” as if they are just washing their hands of the subject by stating such a remark that is Calus and uncaring. It doesnt happen as much as you think, for FRATRICIDAL INCIDENTS to happen....and when it does, there is MOST OF TIME, someone at fault who neglected to do their duty correctly.... sometimes a couple of people are derelict of performing their duty.
    To just say, “what shame, move on now, nothing to see here”, is utterly a DISGRACE to person who died because if the idiot(s) who killed them WRONGFULLY.
    The other half of this story, if you are a researcher and want to make videos of content......then I ask you to please dig into the events that led to the SHAMEFUL DEATH of America’s TOP ACE HOPEFUL, and WHY he died and what happened those who caused his death. If you DO decide to research these men who negligently killed one of America’s BEST FIGHTER ACES..... you will find a story worth telling, instead of sweeping it under the rug.
    Hu-Ahhhhh, Airborne!!
    All the way....and then some!! O7

  • @newtneto
    @newtneto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you send the link for the skin pack you used for this video?

    • @airwarchronicles
      @airwarchronicles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep its in the description, but here it is forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/54643-p-51-d-skins/?do=findComment&comment=841691

  • @accadacastkr4912
    @accadacastkr4912 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep blue on blue

  • @FrLawRE
    @FrLawRE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    George Earl Preddy Jr won 26.83 victories and so was a great ace. However I'm at a loss to understand how .83 of a victory was calculated. If it had been 26.50 then logically the .50 would have been a victory equally shared with another allied fighter pilot. But .83?

    • @martincarey7954
      @martincarey7954 ปีที่แล้ว

      Half kill.. 0.5 and a third share .33 =0.83

  • @mickeydee3595
    @mickeydee3595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine shooting down your own top ace.....

  • @juhopuhakka2351
    @juhopuhakka2351 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That flak battery kikked ass!

  • @sergiofrigo4054
    @sergiofrigo4054 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    no withe stripes on the wings is origin of the friendly fire

  • @bravo0105
    @bravo0105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's unfortunate.

  • @Blondi46
    @Blondi46 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you get that skin from?
    I've been looking everywhere for that version of his P-51!

    • @airwarchronicles
      @airwarchronicles  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/76480-soto-cinematics-falling-aces-of-wwii-cinematic-documentary-series-nowotny-kittel-marseille-pattle-preddy-lang-litvyak-hafner it is under the video on this page. If you cant find it its here forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/54643-p-51-d-skins/page/5/#comment-841691

  • @davidfans5852
    @davidfans5852 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    RIP Carti 😣

  • @carlcotterill6283
    @carlcotterill6283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bet the Hollywood film empire will change how he died if they make a film on him

  • @CollectorChronicles
    @CollectorChronicles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Hitler’s Hearse” sounds catchy. Like the name of a band.

  • @robinsonsstudios
    @robinsonsstudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    26.83 victories,how the hell do you get that number

    • @nenadbacic9227
      @nenadbacic9227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      US pilots counted shared kills, so if for an example 3 pilots made hits on 1 plane, and it falls down, they all get 0.33 of a kill.

    • @robinsonsstudios
      @robinsonsstudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nenadbacic9227 ah alright now that makes sense,probably got one shared and then another one shared with 3 pilots

  • @moisescandidof.dossantos8465
    @moisescandidof.dossantos8465 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice and sad history. The same occurred on some german pilots during Bondenplatte operation.

  • @VC27
    @VC27 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blue on blue is an occupational hazard on the heat of battle.

  • @KAB1983
    @KAB1983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ничего не понял, но было очень интересно...

  • @Slaktrax
    @Slaktrax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Americans seem to have a talent for friendly fire incidents 😞

  • @dhss333
    @dhss333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They should have straffed the AA SITES.

  • @HansMueller661
    @HansMueller661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    24.83 kills? What does that mean? 24 kills and another plane which was exactly 0.83 damaged?

  • @Oct14cya
    @Oct14cya 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe he was due to go home the following week.

  • @tonydeaton1967
    @tonydeaton1967 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How do you get 26.83 victories?

    • @jackd1582
      @jackd1582 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Especially the ....3 ...part . I could understand. .75

    • @henryjacobsen6873
      @henryjacobsen6873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jackd1582 5/6 of a kill. Or, 1/2 a kill plus 1/3 of a kill

    • @jackd1582
      @jackd1582 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@henryjacobsen6873 that 3 represented 3/100ths

    • @tempestfury8324
      @tempestfury8324 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jackd1582 I/2 kill is 50%....plus 1/3 kill is 33%....which equals 83% or .83.

  • @johngrey5806
    @johngrey5806 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you get 26.83 victories? What is the .83 for?

    • @Bodneyblue
      @Bodneyblue 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shared victories..more than one pilot getting hits on that particular victory so share part of a victory...Like 2 pilots get hits on a aircraft and it goes down..they each get .5 share...and so on.

    • @johngrey5806
      @johngrey5806 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Bodneyblue thanks!

    • @Bodneyblue
      @Bodneyblue 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johngrey5806 That's ok....Been interested in Major Preddy since I was 12..I'm not 56..I built an airfix model of his aircraft many years ago..and found the story of his death saddening. At the time I had not really thought to much of the pilots of the aircraft I modeled. But being killed by your own side on Christmas Day was rather tough (though I'm not religious). He has been a part of my life in some way ever since.

  • @jacktattis
    @jacktattis ปีที่แล้ว

    Now do one on Sqn Leader A.A. MacKeller 20 kills in 25 days KIA Nov1940 Flying a 316 mph Hurricane Mk1 not a 436 mph P51D

  • @genenovak2717
    @genenovak2717 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    24.83. I victories, how is that possible?

    • @keithbird8910
      @keithbird8910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kills were often claimed by more that one pilot and if no certainty could be established, the kill would be divided by the number of pilots claiming it and each would be awarded a part of the kill (0.25, 0.33, 0.5 and so on).

    • @genenovak2717
      @genenovak2717 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keithbird8910 Thank You!

  • @Big1_
    @Big1_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:36 Nice landing Preddy! An Ace of landings... 😂😂

  • @letoubib21
    @letoubib21 ปีที่แล้ว

    _Très typique de la perfide Albion, attaquant à l'heure du déjeuner ! Même des repas ne sont pas sacrés pour les rosbifs _*_..._*

  • @peregrinemccauley5010
    @peregrinemccauley5010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    American friendly fire . Very efficient as always .

  • @mitch_the_-itch
    @mitch_the_-itch ปีที่แล้ว

    6 Planes with 9 yards of ammo is truly an amazing feat in itself. The stang had no cannons only 6-12.7mm .50cal ma dueces. German planes were armored.
    Ur not using the K14 correctly either.

  • @828enigma6
    @828enigma6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Friendly fire, isn't.

  • @Tiagomottadmello
    @Tiagomottadmello 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @t.j.payeur5331
    @t.j.payeur5331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Friendly fire sucks...so does war in general...

  • @crazyskyguy
    @crazyskyguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wouldn’t it be nice if instead the story went: and his final flight was at the age of 80 when he took his grandkids up for his birthday before deciding it was time to knock it off for good. They landed safely and his grandkids had a fantastic time listening to their granddad’s stories.

  • @eduardodeandres3864
    @eduardodeandres3864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    rest in peace Mr brave man. We Europeans Never can pay the effort of the United States during the second war world!
    2 much respect

    • @Levium75
      @Levium75 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      United States efforts during World War II?
      And what about the efforts of the USSR and Great Britain?
      3/4 of the ground forces of Germany fought on the Eastern Front against the USSR. Forgotten about it?

    • @tuncozbora2244
      @tuncozbora2244 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are so naïve .... they came to free Europa ....

    • @jacktattis
      @jacktattis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tuncozbora2244 Bull shit they came because Hitler declared war on Them IF he had not done that it is very likely that they would not have come across at all and concentrated on the Pacific
      No you fool you owe it more to the Brits Canucks Free French Poles Aussies Kiwis Czechs Norwegians Greeks etc who all used British Planes and were housed and fed by the Brits
      America never fed you, clothed you, housed you They were too busy making money except for the brave men who joined the RAF

  • @richhughes7450
    @richhughes7450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Krauts would have known that the P51 was an enemy plane as it had a RR Merlin powering it and this has a distinct noise like no other prop plane.

  • @operator6471
    @operator6471 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought rule of thumb was don't fight on the deck.

    • @jacktattis
      @jacktattis ปีที่แล้ว

      All depends what plane the Spits Mks XII and XVI were two marks made for low low work The Allison powered RAF Mustangs were excellent on the deck However it was the Spit that was small enough to be a real handful for the Luftwaffe down low The Clipped wing Spits were made for dealing with the Fw190 down lowl

  • @ricardocorbie6803
    @ricardocorbie6803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a Horrible death to such an awesome Man/ Warrior!! KIA by Friendly Fire 🔥 Wonder what other greatness, had he lived would he have accomplished!! Rest In Peace! Thanks

  • @chrisguyton6228
    @chrisguyton6228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🙏🏻🇺🇸

  • @alessandrofantini891
    @alessandrofantini891 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fly near antiaircraft is not good idea.

  • @ricardocorbie6803
    @ricardocorbie6803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a Horrible death to such an awesome Man/ Warrior!! KIA by Friendly Fire 🔥 Wonder what other greatness, had he lived would he have accomplished!! Rest In Peace!