I agree 100%, if you lose your 50/50 to Lycaon and have a couple of Soukakus, by all means, go full on the Ellen banners.if u don't skip her, she will come back
that is exactly what happened to me, I was pulling for ellen cuz I'm an impatient fool and got Lycaon so now I'm rushing for her (I also keep getting Soukakus and have her c6 by a long shot)
@@ItsMeMrTrick I maxed sokaku and her weapon but still I would love to find Lycaon (also because I have his v-gear and it's really good only for him) and have a complete ice team.
idc bout meta. I like both characters design but ellens gameplay is more satisfying for me so i pulled for her (unfortunatly i spent like 180 banner pulls overall for her cause of my bad luck).
But after that you probably want to pull for their best or at least good teammates, and rip if its someone you don't like (I don't want to talk about firefly with ruan mei)
@@asoret it still depends on what you actually want. If you really want character aesthetic over damage, go, and vice versa or maybe even both. No one's stopping anyone. Some people even pull for fun without giving that much thought on who or what they get on gachas (maybe to satiate their gacha addiction?).
The only thing that worries me is that more public security units are releasing and they will probably synergize well with zhu yuan and because of this I fear that in the future you will need premium units (that will replace anby and maybe nicole) for Zhu Yuan to be good while the Elen team synergy is really good and synergizes with itself really well (therefore it will take more time for it to be replaced)
Still pull for the characters you want. If the dev have a sliver of HSR generosity by the few months you will have more 5 stars than you don't have. Don't sweat to much about the meta. I run Ellen with only Shoukaku and still do find with hard content at lv33.
I got Lycaon on my beginner banner, was going all in for Ellen and was hyped for her, lost my 50/50 at 75 pity, still wanted to go for her since I had Lycaon I was committed to her and of course my Guarantee didn't come early. I am now 15 pulls away from soft pity and am now deciding to pivot towards Zhu Yuan. I really like Ellen, but honestly I dont think she is a 150+ pull upgrade over Corin on the team, Corin works great with Lycaon and Suokaku. She can get Soukakus Atk buff + get the damage boost from when Lycaon stuns the enemy. I just wont get the ice buffs with her, I'll save for either Miyabi if I like her kit and potential power creep on Ellen or just wait for Ellen's rerun.
Currently racing against my friend in the game and my guy got lycaon as his first S rank and then he got Ellen😭 I’m fire team since I got soldier 11 and koleda but my dumb ass tried to also pull Ellen in case I get Lycaon, but I lost the 50/50. Now I’m wating for the cop and hope I win the 50/50. Also my friend is also saving and I hope he won’t get her cuz he’s way too lucky
I don't think I've seen anything official from hoyo about it, but considering that's how it works in their other games, I think the community would explode if guarantees didn't carry over. So yeah bro, FOR REAL.
Truly thanks for this video, it really helped me change my mind and made me realize what's best. I too lost the 50/50 against Ellen and these past couple days I've been desperately grinding the game to try to pull her. This has made me realize just how limited the resources in this game are and the fact that as f2p it just isn't possible to pull every single character. After I got to the end of chapter 2 of the story, I realized that I actually really like Zhu Yuan and her dynamic with Qingyi. I also think Zhu Yuan's fighting style is really fun to play, so I've decided I should just slow down and save my pity for her banner. I'd also like to pull Qingyi in the future when she comes out and make a team out of those two. But once again resources are limited, so if I pull Ellen I can kiss my opportunity to make that team goodbye. Again thanks for the informative video to support my decision! You're right though, these kinda games really do intentionally make resources scarce to entice players to spend money on the game, which is something I'm unwilling to do. That's just the nature of gacha games. I typically don't play them, but I really enjoy ZZZ's gameplay. I'll hit the sub so I can see what you have to say about ZZZ in the future!
I was really considering building an ice team and going for Ellen since My first S rank is Lycaon. However I've put in 60 pulls into her banner and am 20 away from the 50/50. I really like the default team of Anby, Nicole, and Billy and especifically really like Billy. Zhu Yuan seems like a character I'd enjoy just as much especially her being an Eather character which Nicole is and I really wnjoy as well. I havent built Lycaon yet so it's a pretty decent choice imo.
Nah I think you should actually pull for it anyways. You're only 4 away from where the odds spike up a lot, compared to 74 for the next one, and you'll need 2 good teams anyways
Was saving for Zhu Yuan but I hit Lycaon from standard banner so I went for Ellen and won the 50-50. I have 14k polychromes rn so gonna go for Zhu Yuan when she arrives as well 😅
I had a maxed out Soukaku and then Lycon and then Ellen finally came home. I now have one team to carry me through. I may build my next team around Soldier 11.
I GOT the Lycaon but am just not vibing with Ellen; I'll hold out for Miyabi if I really want to hard commit to an Ice team (even if she ends up not being ice, Sokaku pairing with Lycaon ensures Miyabi will work no matter what she is). I was personally hoping to hoard pulls for whenever Trigger becomes a thing, but only having Nicole as the sole Ether character just feels bad. So swapping out Billy for Zhu Yuan just makes all the sense in the world, especially as I've been building up Nicole (I love her DEF shred, grouping, and the i frames on her EX+hidden move) and she's ALSO on the banner. I could legit lose my 50/50 and, assuming I get some Nicoles, still come out all the better.
I got wolf boy right off the bat so my fate was basically sealed. But I really like police girl so I will probably go for her too. Worst case scenario I just build pity for the next character. The nice thing about being a low spender is that you can feel free to build pity. You're not going for duplicates. You just use whomever you end up getting.
I never liked ellen so all my pulls are saved for zhu yuan around 130 pulls(f2p), originally was saving for miyabi but I don't think they intend to release her anytime soon so I thought I might just pick zhu yuan up since shes really cool
Miyabi is pretty underwhelming IMO during CBT1 due to her being an A rank and she hadn't come back since CBT2 - 3, they probably upgrading her animations for how much budget they spent on her cutscene.
I'm going with the HI3 strategy of going for supports mostly. So I have been sitting on all my polychromes BUT I do want Zhu Yuan because she was just so much fun to play and I just wanna have fun. I'm fully aware that both these units will probably have a fairly short shelf life so I'd advise anyone trying to stay f2p and have a competitive account to not pull either units this patch UNLESS they really like them. We'll likely be getting better dps's down the line when we all are getting to the really difficult stuff and there is bound to be some really cracked supports released in the mean time.
I was planning on waiting for Zhu Yuan, but i got unfortunately lucky if you will and got Ellen. Was kinda bummed at first, but it's honestly 'whatever.' I play these games with a "use what you get" mindset. As I already had a M6 Soukaku it gave me a reason to use her and get a strong team rolling, even without Lycoan.
I mean for me this game is testing my waters of patience of all the gacha games ive played up to this point this game is making me wait because I'm legit saving for 2 characters and im skipping the future banners the 2 characters in questions is miyabi and caesar which both are cool ngl and also my acc already isn't bad i got lucky with the 50 pulls because i got Lycaon and his team with nicole and sukaku isn't bad for end game and also piper billy and lucy isn't a bad team which in this game makes 4 start characters not bad to play as
I sub, bcs 1.) dude sounds aussie 2.) very based analysis on Zhu Yuan (esp that the A-tier devil Ether boo is super useful as its projectile is homing and does good dmg) Personally, the pubsec faction looks really dope. Not as rag tag as construction, not as fun-house as cunning hair, not ...as 'weebie' as Vic housekeeping. Zhu Yuan's mechanic is so smooth compared to some of the other char. I would say, if you are foreseeing a draught in polychrome, could just run a new account on the side to just try your luck bcs u just need 1 account to strike RNG gold to make it ur main.
Ellen. I pulled Ellen. And I have 0 regrets. I pulled Ellen’s weapon. And it took 79 pulls and I still have 0 regrets. I fucking love Ellen. And I don’t have a Laycon. I still have 0 regrets. I win.
Ellen is not going to get any stronger at this point as she already has the best team possible around her. I feel like from the f2p standpoint you are right. I would pull only if you can't imagine the game without her. I'm personally waiting for Jane Doe as I am huge rat enthusiast. Good vid. Subbing for more.
I'm lucky enough to get ellen on the first pull and lycon at the standard banner but I will try to pull zhu yuan because I like nicole and I want to use her
People are so quick to gas up Ellen but are also quick to forget that Ellen without Lycaon feels like an entirely different, and worse character. My friend has Ellen, without her signature W Engine, and without Lycaon, and let me tell you that shit is cope. Its BARELY stronger than my Soldier 11 with NO koleda, NO lucy, and NO piper. Not trying to hate at all, but lets just be real is all, the only reason Ellen is the strongest is because her perfect team is available day 1. If you're missing any of the elements, being her W Engine, and Lycaon, I genuinely feel bad for ya because Ellen with those 2 and without those 2 are completely different characters.
@StellaronHunter666 Honestly I would just save. Lycaon by himself is a fantastic unit and can easily slot into any team, pair him with soukaku (a free unit, all you have to do is beat floor 3 or 4 of shiyu defense) and with him and her your core team is set. Soukaku and Lycaon can make any unit great. You got Rina which is a great support too, and honestly a W (even though you lost the 50/50 to her). What I would do is just save, because Zhu Yuan is coming out soon, and right after her is Qingyi, the first limited stun unit. I don't know how you feel about stunners or meta or whatever but imo stunners/supporters are more important than main dps units including Zhu Yuan and Ellen.
@@dr.strange1300 I already did the floor 3 and I'm on A rank on floor 4 but I think we have the same thinking ,about stunners and support but I'm not so sure about pulling for Qingyi cuz yeah sure she's good but idk but still won't I need a good dps for now I'm using Anton , Lycaon and Rina and for the second team I'll go for the cunning hares basic team cuz I have the steel cushion W engine in billy what do you think?
I won my 50/50 with Ellen and I also got her W-engine but still no Lycaon. I do have 80 pulls ready for Zhu Yuan but I don’t think it’s enough, but I trust my luck and I will get Zhu Yuan and her W-engine at early pity on the 24th!
0:48 if u said u lost ur 50-50 there is no luck anymore involve there u will get her 100% next time. And honestly u have plenty of time to get both and in case u have that much bad luck and also lose ur 50-50 on zhu yuan then MAYBE u right u wont have enough to pull for her before she's gone but that's a MAYBE u still have chances of getting her u have no idea mihoyo going to keep doing more events, codes, etc and u will keep getting polychromes so chances are u may be able to gather 180 e.tapes for zhu yuan (tho honestly u shouldn't need 180 if u fail ur 50-50 from what I understand u shouldn't need another 90 pulls to get her) ALLL this said if u want Jane Doe then that's another matter entirely but if u want both Ellen and Zhu Yuan u still can get both since the game is pretty new and mihoyo will keep doing promo campaigns/events to promote it and keep ppl playing (aka bunch of more polychromes) Alternatively u could also reroll ur acc but that's time consuming and not for everyone.
honestly i wish i found this video before i won my second 50/50 with ellen bc now i got three teams to build now and im broke and trying to save for qingyi (im glad i got grace tho lol)
quick question, because I think I'm crazy but I swear I got 3 soukaku's in a 10 pull and the pity went from 80 to 50.....am I tripping? or is there a hidden dupe lowering the pity mechanic?
I lost the 50/50 to Lycaon and got M6 Soukaku, theres was no way i would skip Ellen, besides getting her best team she is the character i like the most
Miyabi a Ice attacker from CBT 1 is still gonna be released down the line so I'll take my katana fox girls over the jk shark any day of the week(also Elen might get powercreept by her)
Ultimately you can do as you please, but let me just advise that you may not want to drop polychrome on the stable channel, it will always be there, you’ll have 300 pulls eventually. You should save polychrome and pull on the limited banners for characters you like, as those will be the stronger characters.
im completely f2p and i have ellen lycaon and m6 soukaku and i also have ellens sig and i think anyone who wants ellen can garantuee her with the amount of polychromes available for f2p i also did lose the ellen 50/50 to s11 and i got her sig due to luck and cuz i got ellen early
1st Banner DPS characters ALWAYS get powercrept into oblivion fairly soon. Seele in HSR probably lasted the longest out of everyone. Usually it’s way better long term for your account to grab the first really good support available on a banner, then maybe the 2nd sustain released, then worry about DPS.
I lost the 50/50, have Grace M1 and Koleda with her weapon, my plan is to use the guaranteed on Zhu Yuan, and try the 50/50 with Qingyi, I would love to get Zhu Yuan weapon, but I'm a monthly pass player, so there is no way to get her weapon and Qingyi, I'm considering the battle pass for the weapon.
I’ve limited banner 100 pulls saved up. Only using standard pull just so i can get more characters or might get lucky to get my s11 weapon. Except grave we both have similar looking account. My Current Team S11 , Lucy , Ben/Piper. Its amazing Team you should level these guys up and Ben shield helpfull.
i was listening to this worried about pulling ellen already then i realized the whole thing you were talking about was synergies (i got lycaon from my starter pulls and another one of him from stable banner) i already had built up both lycaon and soukaku so i realized this video does NOT apply to me at all 😭
somehow managed to win my 50/50 and also get ellen's w-engine... and got bunch of soukaku's and now trying to save up for zhu yuan T-T (having liek 20 pulls already saved up :b) no idea if i can realisticly get enough for zhu yuan LOL, just hoping i get either lycaon, grace (got rina) or soldier 11 from standard banner at least for a proper 2nd team :b
weapons (wengines in ZZZ) are can be whale toys in gachas. Sometimes better for the average player to pull for copies (mindscape cinema in ZZZ). I'll put a guide out when Zhu drops so you know what's more beneficial.
dude, you must be psychic or something, cause you described my account to a T. I just wanted to uninstall the game after getting 2nd copy of grace, or reroll my account. I also did spend the 5bucks for the pass. Honestly I'm not looking for ZhuYuan, but I don't mind waiting for Ellen on her rerun.
i sacrificed other pity for ellen not because of gameplay, or her being a shark, or even being a cutie..... She shares the same VA as takina from lycoris recoil...
This is giving me the same vibes as the early days of HSR when some people were saying they were skipping Seele because Jing Yuan would be a better unit (Seele is single target while Jing Yuan can be both multi and single target, they said), and we all know how that turned out. I'm not saying you're wrong because there's no way to prove or disprove it. I'm just saying it gives me the same vibes (oh and her name also ends with "Yuan" just like Jing Yuan lol). I am actually pulling for Zhu Yuan too because I couldn't choose so I let the game decide: Losing the 50/50 means the game is telling me to skip Ellen and go with Zhu Yuan instead.
@@AverageLuckGamer i think skipping Ellen and mot being able to get Ellen are not the same though. What I mean by skipping is to not risk spending the guarantee on Ellen in case I get an early 5 star. I think that's what you are saying in your video too? About your other point... Realistically, most peoole get a 5 star at 75 to 80 pulls, so maybe it's possible to actually save another 80 pulls before Ellen's banner end if someone really wants her...? I mean I lost the 50/50 at 77 pulls, and I already have 56 pulls saved right now even though I can't grind because I have a job and I have to do house chores too, so I only play like 2 hours a day. I haven't even finished chapter 3 yet, and we still have some pulls left from the daily login event, the current bangboo event, 8 days of dailies, and more side quests, hollow zero, and shiyu defense.
Yeah that’s what I’m saying. And about Ellen, yeah if you want her you can probably get her while she’s still on banner but your reserves will be dry going into next banner.
Whenever I play a new Gatcha game, be it old or newly released, I make it a priority to pull for the limited character on the banner, when I played genshin it was Kokomi who was in the banner, I didn’t like her very much, put I pulled for her and got her, same with HSR, I got Seele, and ZZZ is no different, although I am skipping Zhu Yuan for Qingyi, I need a better stun character and Anby is a bit too slow for me.
Yo can somebody give me some good advice? Just got C2 Ellen and I don't know if i should keep rolling for C6 Ellen, or if i should save my polychromes for Zhu Yuan and her W-Engine. I never got Ellen on guarantees btw. I usually get her every 40 rolls or so.
I just didn't see the pub sec chicks appeal. I did try her in test and i just hated it. I feel like the gun game play in this game is why I just didn't like it. I'll stick with my c0 R1 Ellen that's clearing everything even the high end zero diff. And i just don't see my self doing that with zhu
Manage to Pull Ellen on 50/50 and will not pull for her weapon , cuz I already have a rotator canon W-engine (which is not as good as her signature but still pretty viable for her) manage to save 12K polychromes atm if I got lucky with Zhu Yuan might even manage to pull for Qingyi.
Basically the reason why I leveled up 4 different accounts to level 32 - want to increase chances to obtain C1 Zhu Yuan (obtain twice, basically). At the same time, judging by the leaks of Qingyi and Jane Doe they are too OP to waste all the pulls on Zhu. You know, typical hoyo stuff with a bit of power creep like in all gacha games. It's worth to mention that all S rarity characters from NEPS don't require characters with the same attribute to activate their squad passive.
These games try and squeeze you for money. It’s almost a shame they’re actually good games. I didn’t know about the S rank NEPS passive. Thanks for pointing out.
@@12QUESTIONthe lvl 32 does not affect the Gacha rate, it just that depending of your progress you can farm up to 12k gems with 25 limited pulls in lvl 32 acc but if you're try hard you can get like 16k with 25 limited pulls. So what he means is with 4 acc he can get more probability for getting Zhu Yuan with her weapon as he as 4 acc to pull instead of one
I sub because your advise make sense. Can you make a review of each character that comes out in the future content? Im searching for a CC for ZZZ's character review.
I got Ellen on a 10pull, but I don't like her playstyle 😂 been using neko and grace and Ellens resource management(cryo infusion) doesn't feel fluid for me 🤣 skill issue maybe but I don't like it
I already got Ellen and honestly, zero regrets, she's so fun for me and more enjoyable than a ranged character like Zhu Yuan, that being said, good luck to everyone on their pulls
1:41 again and ill just stop watching here cos u clearly are miss informed and u basing the whole video promise in miss information (and don't take this as an "attack" keep reading please) You CANT lose both 50-50s the 2nd one is 100% u get ur banner character what ppl normally do if they don't care that much about the banner they would save their 50-50 since it carries over to next banner and u get 100% the character u want. But if u want Ellen u will get her now there is no luck involved at all for ur 2nd attempt (and the % goes way higher when u fail ur 50-50 so u shouldn't need another 90 pulls)
To clarify, what I mean by losing both 50-50s is losing one, then getting the character on guarantee. Then pulling again for 2nd character, losing again and then getting them on guarantee. 180 pulls each (360 total) if going to hard pity each time. I’m sorry me tripping over my words and not articulating myself properly turned you off the vid. Thanks for the feedback.
@@AverageLuckGamer That makes more sense but u should've of said that instead lol like u say something while trying to convey something different (I dunno if u clarify this better since like I said I didn't watched the whole video that's on me) but if u want to say "oh I lose my first 50-50 therefore I will/may lose my 50-50 again in the future" is kind of important to mention the part where u already got the character u were initially trying to pull for before attempting ur next 50-50 cos yeah I understand where u coming from but in the same token that's the nature of these gacha games and part of the "fun" if u will is the gambling aspect of it of trying to get and beat that 50-50 in some cases. Not for everyone specially for ppl who are f2p it can be very frustrating to lose 50-50's but is better to go into these game with the right mentality and don't expect "if m not lucky this game is bad/not for me cos my luck sucks" cos u already setting up for having a bad time regardless. Anyway that's all hope u have a wonderful week cheers!
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That mission where we play with her was enough to make me wait for her
I just like how Ellen looks and sharks are my favorite animal 😅
Did I say she wasn't cute? Nah she cute.
I agree 100%, if you lose your 50/50 to Lycaon and have a couple of Soukakus, by all means, go full on the Ellen banners.if u don't skip her, she will come back
that is exactly what happened to me, I was pulling for ellen cuz I'm an impatient fool and got Lycaon so now I'm rushing for her (I also keep getting Soukakus and have her c6 by a long shot)
Getting Ellen is a really good idea then. 👍@matiascrispim1371
@@ItsMeMrTrick I maxed sokaku and her weapon but still I would love to find Lycaon (also because I have his v-gear and it's really good only for him) and have a complete ice team.
@@Nikki-xh9cj getting the gear without the character kinda stings.
@@FayolaOnline yeah but fortunately I've found it on the standard banner, so I guess it's not that bad of a thing.
idc bout meta. I like both characters design but ellens gameplay is more satisfying for me so i pulled for her (unfortunatly i spent like 180 banner pulls overall for her cause of my bad luck).
Below average luck moment
Yep that’s what I’ve been saying in my videos too, it’s a marathon not a sprint but some people don’t seem to understand that still
Thanks for checking out my content! I just checked your videos out and yeah, similar vibes over there. Great work. Subbed.
@@AverageLuckGamer np my man
Tip #1: Pull for whoever you *want* even if it means losing damage output, survivability, etc.
Bonus if the one you pulled has a fun combo and weapon you like
But after that you probably want to pull for their best or at least good teammates, and rip if its someone you don't like (I don't want to talk about firefly with ruan mei)
@@asoret it still depends on what you actually want. If you really want character aesthetic over damage, go, and vice versa or maybe even both. No one's stopping anyone. Some people even pull for fun without giving that much thought on who or what they get on gachas (maybe to satiate their gacha addiction?).
I started this game because shark maid, I will get shark maid
Exactly, I didn't know about miyabi but was sure I would get the shark maid so guess I will skip miyabi to use Ellen as long as I can
@@asoret oh bro I’m using Ellen always even if she gets powercrept, shark maids can’t be powercrept😤
The only thing that worries me is that more public security units are releasing and they will probably synergize well with zhu yuan and because of this I fear that in the future you will need premium units (that will replace anby and maybe nicole) for Zhu Yuan to be good while the Elen team synergy is really good and synergizes with itself really well (therefore it will take more time for it to be replaced)
Still pull for the characters you want. If the dev have a sliver of HSR generosity by the few months you will have more 5 stars than you don't have. Don't sweat to much about the meta. I run Ellen with only Shoukaku and still do find with hard content at lv33.
I got Lycaon on my beginner banner, was going all in for Ellen and was hyped for her, lost my 50/50 at 75 pity, still wanted to go for her since I had Lycaon I was committed to her and of course my Guarantee didn't come early. I am now 15 pulls away from soft pity and am now deciding to pivot towards Zhu Yuan. I really like Ellen, but honestly I dont think she is a 150+ pull upgrade over Corin on the team, Corin works great with Lycaon and Suokaku. She can get Soukakus Atk buff + get the damage boost from when Lycaon stuns the enemy. I just wont get the ice buffs with her, I'll save for either Miyabi if I like her kit and potential power creep on Ellen or just wait for Ellen's rerun.
smart decision
Currently racing against my friend in the game and my guy got lycaon as his first S rank and then he got Ellen😭 I’m fire team since I got soldier 11 and koleda but my dumb ass tried to also pull Ellen in case I get Lycaon, but I lost the 50/50. Now I’m wating for the cop and hope I win the 50/50. Also my friend is also saving and I hope he won’t get her cuz he’s way too lucky
Your guarantee should carry over to Zhu’s banner!
@@AverageLuckGamerFOR REAL?? LETS GOOO💀🔥🔥💀
I don't think I've seen anything official from hoyo about it, but considering that's how it works in their other games, I think the community would explode if guarantees didn't carry over. So yeah bro, FOR REAL.
@@AverageLuckGamerIt’s always mentioned in the Details of the Limited Event Banner. ^^
noice perfect then
PUBSEC FOR THE WIN, I'VE BEEN SAVING FOR ZHU YUAN FOR A WHILE!! (12000 POLYS SO FAR)
Truly thanks for this video, it really helped me change my mind and made me realize what's best. I too lost the 50/50 against Ellen and these past couple days I've been desperately grinding the game to try to pull her. This has made me realize just how limited the resources in this game are and the fact that as f2p it just isn't possible to pull every single character.
After I got to the end of chapter 2 of the story, I realized that I actually really like Zhu Yuan and her dynamic with Qingyi. I also think Zhu Yuan's fighting style is really fun to play, so I've decided I should just slow down and save my pity for her banner. I'd also like to pull Qingyi in the future when she comes out and make a team out of those two. But once again resources are limited, so if I pull Ellen I can kiss my opportunity to make that team goodbye.
Again thanks for the informative video to support my decision! You're right though, these kinda games really do intentionally make resources scarce to entice players to spend money on the game, which is something I'm unwilling to do. That's just the nature of gacha games. I typically don't play them, but I really enjoy ZZZ's gameplay. I'll hit the sub so I can see what you have to say about ZZZ in the future!
Thank you! Glad I could help.
I was really considering building an ice team and going for Ellen since My first S rank is Lycaon. However I've put in 60 pulls into her banner and am 20 away from the 50/50. I really like the default team of Anby, Nicole, and Billy and especifically really like Billy. Zhu Yuan seems like a character I'd enjoy just as much especially her being an Eather character which Nicole is and I really wnjoy as well. I havent built Lycaon yet so it's a pretty decent choice imo.
Nah I think you should actually pull for it anyways. You're only 4 away from where the odds spike up a lot, compared to 74 for the next one, and you'll need 2 good teams anyways
Update: did a 10x and got Ellen. Guess I'm going for Zhu Yuan too.
130 pulls saved rn after hard skipping Ellen, wish me luck yall
Lost 5050 too, so gonna waste all polychromes on standart wish because all I want is lycaon
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Was saving for Zhu Yuan but I hit Lycaon from standard banner so I went for Ellen and won the 50-50. I have 14k polychromes rn so gonna go for Zhu Yuan when she arrives as well 😅
Congrats. Happy for you. Nice... really though that's awesome.
If yall really want to pull on 1.0 event banner, minimum is to try get soukaku to c4 and stop
I had a maxed out Soukaku and then Lycon and then Ellen finally came home. I now have one team to carry me through. I may build my next team around Soldier 11.
I GOT the Lycaon but am just not vibing with Ellen; I'll hold out for Miyabi if I really want to hard commit to an Ice team (even if she ends up not being ice, Sokaku pairing with Lycaon ensures Miyabi will work no matter what she is).
I was personally hoping to hoard pulls for whenever Trigger becomes a thing, but only having Nicole as the sole Ether character just feels bad. So swapping out Billy for Zhu Yuan just makes all the sense in the world, especially as I've been building up Nicole (I love her DEF shred, grouping, and the i frames on her EX+hidden move) and she's ALSO on the banner. I could legit lose my 50/50 and, assuming I get some Nicoles, still come out all the better.
I got wolf boy right off the bat so my fate was basically sealed. But I really like police girl so I will probably go for her too. Worst case scenario I just build pity for the next character.
The nice thing about being a low spender is that you can feel free to build pity. You're not going for duplicates. You just use whomever you end up getting.
got this after pulling ellen don't regret it either gives me time to save for Jane Doe
I never liked ellen so all my pulls are saved for zhu yuan around 130 pulls(f2p), originally was saving for miyabi but I don't think they intend to release her anytime soon so I thought I might just pick zhu yuan up since shes really cool
Miyabi is probably coming in 1.3, so mid to late autumn
Miyabi is pretty underwhelming IMO during CBT1 due to her being an A rank and she hadn't come back since CBT2 - 3, they probably upgrading her animations for how much budget they spent on her cutscene.
I'm going with the HI3 strategy of going for supports mostly. So I have been sitting on all my polychromes BUT I do want Zhu Yuan because she was just so much fun to play and I just wanna have fun. I'm fully aware that both these units will probably have a fairly short shelf life so I'd advise anyone trying to stay f2p and have a competitive account to not pull either units this patch UNLESS they really like them. We'll likely be getting better dps's down the line when we all are getting to the really difficult stuff and there is bound to be some really cracked supports released in the mean time.
Truth
I was planning on waiting for Zhu Yuan, but i got unfortunately lucky if you will and got Ellen. Was kinda bummed at first, but it's honestly 'whatever.' I play these games with a "use what you get" mindset. As I already had a M6 Soukaku it gave me a reason to use her and get a strong team rolling, even without Lycoan.
Plus you can guarantee Lycoan on the S rank selector at some point
got ellen now imma save for jane doe cause her design is more appealing to me than zhu
I’m going Ellen and her W-engine and the saving for Miyabi
I changed my mind I got Ellen but I’m gonna go for Miyabi with her W engine instead
I mean for me this game is testing my waters of patience of all the gacha games ive played up to this point this game is making me wait because I'm legit saving for 2 characters and im skipping the future banners the 2 characters in questions is miyabi and caesar which both are cool ngl and also my acc already isn't bad i got lucky with the 50 pulls because i got Lycaon and his team with nicole and sukaku isn't bad for end game and also piper billy and lucy isn't a bad team which in this game makes 4 start characters not bad to play as
nah Im waiting for Lucia that drip is calling me and Im already saving
I wasent gonna roll for Ellen "Unless" my first S* was Lycheon... sadly I got Lycheon
Gotta do what you gotta do then.
I sub, bcs 1.) dude sounds aussie 2.) very based analysis on Zhu Yuan (esp that the A-tier devil Ether boo is super useful as its projectile is homing and does good dmg)
Personally, the pubsec faction looks really dope. Not as rag tag as construction, not as fun-house as cunning hair, not ...as 'weebie' as Vic housekeeping. Zhu Yuan's mechanic is so smooth compared to some of the other char.
I would say, if you are foreseeing a draught in polychrome, could just run a new account on the side to just try your luck bcs u just need 1 account to strike RNG gold to make it ur main.
Thanks bud, I can just keep believing I'm gonna get lucky on my main...
@@AverageLuckGamer will eagerly wait for more vids. Your audio quality is great too! Thanks for sharing great content.
Thank you! I truly appreciate the support!
Ellen. I pulled Ellen. And I have 0 regrets. I pulled Ellen’s weapon. And it took 79 pulls and I still have 0 regrets. I fucking love Ellen. And I don’t have a Laycon. I still have 0 regrets. I win.
Ellen is not going to get any stronger at this point as she already has the best team possible around her. I feel like from the f2p standpoint you are right. I would pull only if you can't imagine the game without her. I'm personally waiting for Jane Doe as I am huge rat enthusiast. Good vid. Subbing for more.
Ah as fellow Jane Doe enjoyer. Thank you so much!
I got koleda c1 and Grace's signature weapon. Ellen too, no synergy whatsover lmao.
Average luck moment
She will be better for f2p however the next banner after will be her best in slot
love to see it keep up the good work
Thank you!
Fully convinced me to become a diehard Zhuyuan player
Managed to get her and her weapon in 20 pulls. Knew this was a good decision thank you bro😭😭
I'm lucky enough to get ellen on the first pull and lycon at the standard banner but I will try to pull zhu yuan because I like nicole and I want to use her
Lycaon ice res shread
Soukaku atk boost
Ellen nuke dmg
So delicious!
(Yes i know future character will power creep ellen)
if you lose 50/50 def pull for Zhu Yuan (which is also me)
People are so quick to gas up Ellen but are also quick to forget that Ellen without Lycaon feels like an entirely different, and worse character. My friend has Ellen, without her signature W Engine, and without Lycaon, and let me tell you that shit is cope. Its BARELY stronger than my Soldier 11 with NO koleda, NO lucy, and NO piper. Not trying to hate at all, but lets just be real is all, the only reason Ellen is the strongest is because her perfect team is available day 1. If you're missing any of the elements, being her W Engine, and Lycaon, I genuinely feel bad for ya because Ellen with those 2 and without those 2 are completely different characters.
So let's say that said person tried to get Ellen bcz he had Lycaon but ended up losing to Alexandrina what should said person do ?
Underrated comment btw I agree with you
@StellaronHunter666 Honestly I would just save. Lycaon by himself is a fantastic unit and can easily slot into any team, pair him with soukaku (a free unit, all you have to do is beat floor 3 or 4 of shiyu defense) and with him and her your core team is set. Soukaku and Lycaon can make any unit great. You got Rina which is a great support too, and honestly a W (even though you lost the 50/50 to her). What I would do is just save, because Zhu Yuan is coming out soon, and right after her is Qingyi, the first limited stun unit. I don't know how you feel about stunners or meta or whatever but imo stunners/supporters are more important than main dps units including Zhu Yuan and Ellen.
@@dr.strange1300 I already did the floor 3 and I'm on A rank on floor 4 but I think we have the same thinking ,about stunners and support but I'm not so sure about pulling for Qingyi cuz yeah sure she's good but idk but still won't I need a good dps for now I'm using Anton , Lycaon and Rina and for the second team I'll go for the cunning hares basic team cuz I have the steel cushion W engine in billy what do you think?
@@dr.strange1300 I'm not a big meta player I play whatever feels good
got ellen and even got enough pulls to pull for this gurl!!
Pulled lycoan on the standard and won the 50/50.
Now? Might be time to start saving for Zhu
I won my 50/50 with Ellen and I also got her W-engine but still no Lycaon. I do have 80 pulls ready for Zhu Yuan but I don’t think it’s enough, but I trust my luck and I will get Zhu Yuan and her W-engine at early pity on the 24th!
0:48 if u said u lost ur 50-50 there is no luck anymore involve there u will get her 100% next time. And honestly u have plenty of time to get both and in case u have that much bad luck and also lose ur 50-50 on zhu yuan then MAYBE u right u wont have enough to pull for her before she's gone but that's a MAYBE u still have chances of getting her u have no idea mihoyo going to keep doing more events, codes, etc and u will keep getting polychromes so chances are u may be able to gather 180 e.tapes for zhu yuan (tho honestly u shouldn't need 180 if u fail ur 50-50 from what I understand u shouldn't need another 90 pulls to get her) ALLL this said if u want Jane Doe then that's another matter entirely but if u want both Ellen and Zhu Yuan u still can get both since the game is pretty new and mihoyo will keep doing promo campaigns/events to promote it and keep ppl playing (aka bunch of more polychromes)
Alternatively u could also reroll ur acc but that's time consuming and not for everyone.
Zhu Yuan is where it’s (Gy)att.
honestly i wish i found this video before i won my second 50/50 with ellen bc now i got three teams to build now and im broke and trying to save for qingyi (im glad i got grace tho lol)
You'll get to build them eventually. Maybe after qingyi, head back into full save mode and just focus on building. Take your time.
quick question, because I think I'm crazy but I swear I got 3 soukaku's in a 10 pull and the pity went from 80 to 50.....am I tripping? or is there a hidden dupe lowering the pity mechanic?
I’d like to know about that bud
I lost the 50/50 to Lycaon and got M6 Soukaku, theres was no way i would skip Ellen, besides getting her best team she is the character i like the most
I have Ellen. I'll get zhu aswell. Cuz o need her
this is actually sound advice
Thank you!
I already lose 50-50 so I think I am on guaranted now, I have already pulled 30 times so might as well just stack up rn and wait for Zhu Yuan
That persona OST 👌
Heck yeah!
Miyabi a Ice attacker from CBT 1 is still gonna be released down the line so I'll take my katana fox girls over the jk shark any day of the week(also Elen might get powercreept by her)
You just like me fr
Miyabi is probably coming in 1.3, so mid to late autumn - a pretty long time to be without any new characters
I haven’t done any event banner summons at all. I’m waiting to hit 90 summons for the second banner
Ultimately you can do as you please, but let me just advise that you may not want to drop polychrome on the stable channel, it will always be there, you’ll have 300 pulls eventually.
You should save polychrome and pull on the limited banners for characters you like, as those will be the stronger characters.
She will rerun, she will come back... She will be power creeped.
The cricle of life
Luckily got her and her weap since my first ss was Lycaon.
Same reason why I skipped Ellen for Zhu Yuan, I dont have Lycaon but everyone has Anby and Nicole
You make very good points
im completely f2p and i have ellen lycaon and m6 soukaku and i also have ellens sig and i think anyone who wants ellen can garantuee her with the amount of polychromes available for f2p i also did lose the ellen 50/50 to s11 and i got her sig due to luck and cuz i got ellen early
Thicc is why i wait
ill be saving for hoshimi miyabi. ill get both her and her w engine
I won 50/50 on Ellen and got Koleda in the next 10 pull so I guess I'm gonna get both unless 1.1 characters will turn out to be cracked
at leaset you have 2 different S agents, i get lycaon from the rookie banner, and lose the 50 of ellen with another lycaon, yes i am going after Yuan
You should pull who you like but you should maybe consider grinding up the polys and get Ellen to work with your Lycaon.
1st Banner DPS characters ALWAYS get powercrept into oblivion fairly soon. Seele in HSR probably lasted the longest out of everyone. Usually it’s way better long term for your account to grab the first really good support available on a banner, then maybe the 2nd sustain released, then worry about DPS.
I lost the 50/50, have Grace M1 and Koleda with her weapon, my plan is to use the guaranteed on Zhu Yuan, and try the 50/50 with Qingyi, I would love to get Zhu Yuan weapon, but I'm a monthly pass player, so there is no way to get her weapon and Qingyi, I'm considering the battle pass for the weapon.
I will wait for zhun yuan since she good in combat and she🔥🔥🔥
Dude we have the same exact s ranks lmao
My teams rn are zhu yuan, Anby, and Nicole
And soldier 11, grace and Ben
idc, I don't like Zhu Yuan at all, so I will get Ellen (even though this shit scams me as no gacha game ever did) and will be saving for Queengyi
lmao
I’ve limited banner 100 pulls saved up. Only using standard pull just so i can get more characters or might get lucky to get my s11 weapon. Except grave we both have similar looking account. My Current Team S11 , Lucy , Ben/Piper. Its amazing Team you should level these guys up and Ben shield helpfull.
Yeah Piper's on my list to level up.
i was listening to this worried about pulling ellen already then i realized the whole thing you were talking about was synergies (i got lycaon from my starter pulls and another one of him from stable banner) i already had built up both lycaon and soukaku so i realized this video does NOT apply to me at all 😭
Yeah true, you should probably pull Ellen.
Saving all my pulls for Professor Arche! 🤪
somehow managed to win my 50/50 and also get ellen's w-engine... and got bunch of soukaku's and now trying to save up for zhu yuan T-T (having liek 20 pulls already saved up :b) no idea if i can realisticly get enough for zhu yuan LOL, just hoping i get either lycaon, grace (got rina) or soldier 11 from standard banner at least for a proper 2nd team :b
Ive mainly just been pulling off the main banner so i can upgrade my team amd saving my film for the Zhu
Save that polychrome though!
I also lost my 50/50, and am now waiting. Hopefully I get lucky on the engine too. I have like 0 engines rn.
weapons (wengines in ZZZ) are can be whale toys in gachas. Sometimes better for the average player to pull for copies (mindscape cinema in ZZZ). I'll put a guide out when Zhu drops so you know what's more beneficial.
The heck… are we twins or smth? I got anby nicole and grace as my main team, and a sol 11 team with ben and lucy
my brother...
Soldier 11 & Anby supremacy for the sole reason that they’re likely sisters or cloned👌🏾
dude, you must be psychic or something, cause you described my account to a T. I just wanted to uninstall the game after getting 2nd copy of grace, or reroll my account. I also did spend the 5bucks for the pass. Honestly I'm not looking for ZhuYuan, but I don't mind waiting for Ellen on her rerun.
Grace is sick though...
@@AverageLuckGamer maybe your right, losing 50/50 is pretty 😡. But I do wanna skip yuan for a better Grace team.
i sacrificed other pity for ellen not because of gameplay, or her being a shark, or even being a cutie..... She shares the same VA as takina from lycoris recoil...
my other*
I only waited zhu for ben. Probably 2nd time since i waited for jing yuan in star rail release.
This is giving me the same vibes as the early days of HSR when some people were saying they were skipping Seele because Jing Yuan would be a better unit (Seele is single target while Jing Yuan can be both multi and single target, they said), and we all know how that turned out.
I'm not saying you're wrong because there's no way to prove or disprove it. I'm just saying it gives me the same vibes (oh and her name also ends with "Yuan" just like Jing Yuan lol). I am actually pulling for Zhu Yuan too because I couldn't choose so I let the game decide: Losing the 50/50 means the game is telling me to skip Ellen and go with Zhu Yuan instead.
Yeah and I think that's more my point, if you do lose that 50/50 then you can't really get both (unless you spend or grind like crazy).
@@AverageLuckGamer i think skipping Ellen and mot being able to get Ellen are not the same though. What I mean by skipping is to not risk spending the guarantee on Ellen in case I get an early 5 star. I think that's what you are saying in your video too?
About your other point... Realistically, most peoole get a 5 star at 75 to 80 pulls, so maybe it's possible to actually save another 80 pulls before Ellen's banner end if someone really wants her...? I mean I lost the 50/50 at 77 pulls, and I already have 56 pulls saved right now even though I can't grind because I have a job and I have to do house chores too, so I only play like 2 hours a day. I haven't even finished chapter 3 yet, and we still have some pulls left from the daily login event, the current bangboo event, 8 days of dailies, and more side quests, hollow zero, and shiyu defense.
Yeah that’s what I’m saying. And about Ellen, yeah if you want her you can probably get her while she’s still on banner but your reserves will be dry going into next banner.
Whenever I play a new Gatcha game, be it old or newly released, I make it a priority to pull for the limited character on the banner, when I played genshin it was Kokomi who was in the banner, I didn’t like her very much, put I pulled for her and got her, same with HSR, I got Seele, and ZZZ is no different, although I am skipping Zhu Yuan for Qingyi, I need a better stun character and Anby is a bit too slow for me.
well, i just want another ether. i will main nicole and zhu yuan is great for her team.
I only bought the membership and battle pass, and currently I have Lycaon, Ellen, C6 souk and neko as well as graces W engine
Congrats, Happy for you, Nice XD
Yo can somebody give me some good advice? Just got C2 Ellen and I don't know if i should keep rolling for C6 Ellen, or if i should save my polychromes for Zhu Yuan and her W-Engine. I never got Ellen on guarantees btw. I usually get her every 40 rolls or so.
Happy for you. Probs best to wait now though, more characters give you more options, rather than hyper investing on one character.
I just didn't see the pub sec chicks appeal. I did try her in test and i just hated it. I feel like the gun game play in this game is why I just didn't like it. I'll stick with my c0 R1 Ellen that's clearing everything even the high end zero diff. And i just don't see my self doing that with zhu
That’s fair man, you do you.
Manage to Pull Ellen on 50/50 and will not pull for her weapon , cuz I already have a rotator canon W-engine (which is not as good as her signature but still pretty viable for her) manage to save 12K polychromes atm if I got lucky with Zhu Yuan might even manage to pull for Qingyi.
Solid financial planning there
finally someone lost 50\50 like me i was gonna go crazy everyone pulling ellen
Finna waiting for miya it'll b long but its worth
nah bro I found Ellen on my first 10 wish and then I lost the 50/50 30 pulls later so now I'm saving for YUAN (if I'm interested)
Nice always be patient, only pull if you like the character.
@AverageLuckGamer yeah yeah I won't make the same mistake I did on genshin
But what do I do if I'm a corrin main? (I own rina but no lycan or ellen and am 3 multi's away from another s rank)
Basically the reason why I leveled up 4 different accounts to level 32 - want to increase chances to obtain C1 Zhu Yuan (obtain twice, basically).
At the same time, judging by the leaks of Qingyi and Jane Doe they are too OP to waste all the pulls on Zhu. You know, typical hoyo stuff with a bit of power creep like in all gacha games.
It's worth to mention that all S rarity characters from NEPS don't require characters with the same attribute to activate their squad passive.
These games try and squeeze you for money. It’s almost a shame they’re actually good games.
I didn’t know about the S rank NEPS passive. Thanks for pointing out.
whats in level 32? how will it affect the gatcha chances?
@@12QUESTIONthe lvl 32 does not affect the Gacha rate, it just that depending of your progress you can farm up to 12k gems with 25 limited pulls in lvl 32 acc but if you're try hard you can get like 16k with 25 limited pulls. So what he means is with 4 acc he can get more probability for getting Zhu Yuan with her weapon as he as 4 acc to pull instead of one
Please remind me of this video when both of them get powercrept in 1.6 by a tall woman (who is clearly a lesbian)
1.6 is like 6 to 9 months away
@@wdeltagYeah, if 1.0 banner DPS stays top of meta all the way until 1.6 Ellen/ZY enjoys can call that an absolute win.
I sub because your advise make sense. Can you make a review of each character that comes out in the future content? Im searching for a CC for ZZZ's character review.
Thank you! I certainly plan to!
I got Ellen on a 10pull, but I don't like her playstyle 😂 been using neko and grace and Ellens resource management(cryo infusion) doesn't feel fluid for me 🤣 skill issue maybe but I don't like it
I already got Ellen and honestly, zero regrets, she's so fun for me and more enjoyable than a ranged character like Zhu Yuan, that being said, good luck to everyone on their pulls
Im literally going for m2s1 Zhu Yuan ans m2s1 Qingyi, i need my pubsec team.
Muahahahah even if you don't asked, i will still win because i have Ellen at 20 pity and Zhu Yuan will come home either way.
1:41 again and ill just stop watching here cos u clearly are miss informed and u basing the whole video promise in miss information (and don't take this as an "attack" keep reading please) You CANT lose both 50-50s the 2nd one is 100% u get ur banner character what ppl normally do if they don't care that much about the banner they would save their 50-50 since it carries over to next banner and u get 100% the character u want. But if u want Ellen u will get her now there is no luck involved at all for ur 2nd attempt (and the % goes way higher when u fail ur 50-50 so u shouldn't need another 90 pulls)
To clarify, what I mean by losing both 50-50s is losing one, then getting the character on guarantee. Then pulling again for 2nd character, losing again and then getting them on guarantee. 180 pulls each (360 total) if going to hard pity each time. I’m sorry me tripping over my words and not articulating myself properly turned you off the vid. Thanks for the feedback.
@@AverageLuckGamer That makes more sense but u should've of said that instead lol like u say something while trying to convey something different (I dunno if u clarify this better since like I said I didn't watched the whole video that's on me) but if u want to say "oh I lose my first 50-50 therefore I will/may lose my 50-50 again in the future" is kind of important to mention the part where u already got the character u were initially trying to pull for before attempting ur next 50-50 cos yeah I understand where u coming from but in the same token that's the nature of these gacha games and part of the "fun" if u will is the gambling aspect of it of trying to get and beat that 50-50 in some cases. Not for everyone specially for ppl who are f2p it can be very frustrating to lose 50-50's but is better to go into these game with the right mentality and don't expect "if m not lucky this game is bad/not for me cos my luck sucks" cos u already setting up for having a bad time regardless. Anyway that's all hope u have a wonderful week cheers!