Yellow Science & Smooth transition to the midgame | Step-By-Step 2024 Masterclass | #3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.พ. 2024
- This is a step-by-step "Play Along" guide on Dyson Sphere Program, 2024 / combat update proof. Blueprints included!
This episode: How to transition to the midgame while making full use of your early game base!
This run will be focused on
- Explaining the strategy
- No Spaghetti
- Easy to use layouts and blueprints
This playstyle is extremely organized and will focus on efficiently scaling, step by step, towards the endgame. Optimizing is what we do here!
It is definitely not the only way to play, so I encourage you to try things out for yourself as well!
Don't forget to like the video if you find it useful, and subscribe to see the rest :)
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This episode is a bit longer than usual, but it will cover quite a few hours of gameplay. Did you make it till the end? :)
PS: Keep liking the videos (if you do in fact like them) because it helps me out a LOT!
I made the episode to the end 😊 did you know you need titanium ingots to make hydrogen fuel rods?
Yup! That is also why they don't get used that much - by the time you get them (and enough hydrogen) you already need that hydrogen for other things. @@delroyclarke1989
@@TheDutchActuary when you built the Mall - Bots Where did you get Plasma Exciters from I’m going to guess that you manually created them on this video
For the first few bots you either grab them from the dark fog, or you make a few yourself. Pretty much the first thing in the next episode fixes this permanently with this build: www.dysonsphereblueprints.com/blueprints/factory-018-miscellaneous-inputs@@TrovoMapleYT
I just start playing DSP, the splitter and storage box tips help me a lot. keep this series going,
Will do!
i enjoy your 'slower' and more measured way of doing things. Where you only build the production capacity only for the production scale you can accommodate. I've seen people made massive missile factory quite early game and the same with science where a lot of that rocket becomes idle anyway and the research goes way to fast that you don't end up using anything you've researched for a while
Thank you for this series, I'm looking forward to the next instalment. I clearly see how I'm overproducing almost everything with an out-of-control spaghetti setup. Watching your base develop is much more pleasing than my mess. It is interesting to see how other people can masterfully solve this game's challenges.
I've played DSP a lot (way before the fog came out) and I've tried many times to design my own base but always ended up with spaghetti ☺ I love your videos and straight-line way of doing things. It's so simple and nice to look at
Been using a lot of inspiration from Nilaus before I came to your channel.
I must say this masterclass has completely changed how I plan/play so thanks for that.
Exciting with this episode is that I had to go ahead and do this phase myself so it’s gonna be exciting to compare thoughts here.
Great job and keep the good work!
Hey TDA - loving this series - definitely scratched the OCD itch (except for those bloody Wind Turbines never aligning in the different planetary zones ....). Never tried a DF run so this has encouraged me to dip my toe in on a 'normal settings' run. Looking forward immensely to next episode. Cheers!
thank you alot. i am playing with you on the same seed but an easaier difficulty. i enjoyed it so much and learned alot. for me this is the nicest starter factory i ever had.
Thanks so much for this content TDA. I love it. I'd aprecciate if you can continue with next episodes faster. Im following ur instructions on my own planet and its really helpful. Thank you so much. Waiting for next episodes!!
new episode! Thank you!
Thanks so much for the content bro 😊❤ love this episode, keep it up 🙌
Thank you for this serie.
Top content man. Heb veel Factorio en Satisfactory gespeeld, maar toch wel wat ideetjes gepikt van je ^^ vooral verhoudingen en die storages en zo. Heb er veel aan!
I've played DSP a few times, but this series has helped me better understand the game and manage things that caused bottle necks & other issues. My newest playthrough with an aggressive dark fog, is way more organised than my previous playthroughs & i don't feel overwhelmed by things. Thanks for this series!
You're welcome!
Really Great MAsterclass, even better then the last oen ;) keep it up ma man
I like smelting the titanium and silicon in place and using the ILS to ship the bars. It ends up being slightly more efficient because converting it to ingots means you're essentially shipping twice as much titanium.
Definitely a solid option!
Good for saving a little space in your builds too.
Thanks, TDA. Always love your vids. Length of an episode doesn't bother me. I watch another creature that typically puts out 45min videos every day. Letsdig18 if you like dirt work with machines. Probably goin to be starting my first run through middle of this week. 😂
I think giving the sneak peek was effective. Good tip on the accumulators. I find they can be handy in certain situations.
If you want to carry more titanium, you can trigger handcrafting as much as you can, then cancel it when you get back.
Good point on the handcrafting! Just dont cancel it near the BABs, or you'll be fishing out your ore for a while ;)
9:06 that obliterated sounded EXACTLY like gru, i was scared he was gonna try and steal the moon from the dark fog hive
Sssssh you'll ruin my cover! Bad minion!
Hey hey hey TDA, this is Riru :P just wanted to say that I've been following the las 2 episodes, I've stayed super late at night playing this game that I've always wanted to explore, but I got lost after blue science, I'm supper glad and happy that you have this series, and I'm looking forward to see it and follow along when I finish working each day! Keep it up!
Also, I kind of regret starting on a lower difficulty settings, as I'm also following your defences and the dark fog do absolutely nothing to me, I might restart with higher difficulty settings :)
You don't miss out on too much while playing on lower difficulty. Combat is a great addition to the game to spice things up, but even if you remove the fog completely (as the game was for the last 2 years) it's a great game to enjoy!
If you've not completed the game yet, maybe just finish this run and then start a new one with more bots to try a few new things!
I might never have realized that you can place depots on top of Battle Centers to expand their storage, and by extension distributors on top of the depots to connect them to your logitistic network if you hadn't demonstrated it. But it just goes to show that watching tutorials like these even if just to learn tricks like that makes it worthwhile.
It's definitely not obvious, and the interaction of the box with the BAB is also unintuitive. I'm hoping that in a later update, the box will simply expand the BAB inventory showing the combined items in both
Thanks for another great episode. I should have played the dark fog on a harder level, at standard they're not much more than just a nuisance, especially when building the giant wall of turrets and missiles. (And missing out on loot)
Time to get to work!
Maybe some of the balance tweaks changed things up, but this level of base doesn't seem strong enough for me. I'm landing on a planet with 6 established lv10 bases with the exact same combat settings as you, and while this _is_ able to defend itself from waves pretty well (very rarely losing a corner building), it's not strong enough to take opposing bases efficiently. Advancing on a fully armored base produces so many units the missiles never get a chance to target buildings, so it just gives me swarms of neverending enemies leading to constant attacks from all 5 other bases and no progress on the one I'm going for. It took hours of attrition to whittle it down to two bases, and 4 or 5 back and forth trips to restock ammo. By that point I've gotten so much hive threat I'm about to get attacked from space.
I think this needs a stronger retweaking, maybe an entire extra line of missile turrets? And maybe implosion cannons to defend them? Laser turrets are a writeoff from power concerns alone.
I don't mind the long episodes, give me more!
Thanks for making another series. It has been very interesting to watch your strategies adapt over time, especially due to the disruptive effect of the Dark Fog.
I noticed a minor issue in the 009 (particle container part 2) blueprint. Rather than passing in copper ingots to the particle container assemblers, the blueprint passes in magnets, which are not needed.
I actually corrected this, but aparantly copied the blueprint from the wrong save... Nice catch, corrected!
@@TheDutchActuary I found another minor blueprint error in 007 - Titanium Alloy-- the steel output belt is not connected to the input belt for the Titanium Alloy assemblers.
Huh, a few belt pieces went missing there in the middle of the belt somehow.... How the.... Anyway, it's fixed, thanks!@@SteveBonds
@@TheDutchActuaryYeah, there's no way to find those issues without trying it out from the start. It's a service I'm happy to provide! Keep those videos coming. 🙂
Always like the videos!
It’s tempting to do 4-5 playthroughs just to yellow science, it’s so tricky to transition. That to get more experience at it.
The transition to both Mk III belts and the new Pile Sorters will also be a big one. Not looking forward to that!
Well then you're going to love the next episode ;)
Something occurs to me: when placing down a blueprint, we can right-click to remove buildings. I do it sometimes when wanting to place down a slightly-too-big blueprint.
Wait, what? That works with individual buildings?@@Yardiff
Not individual buildings, groups of buildings. Like, the turrets/missiles/battlefield analysis bases. I'm thinking of separate stamping down:
1/ The power structure (accumulators, solar panels, wind turbines)
Once that's charged up somewhat:
2/ The rest (belts, missiles, turrets, bab's, boxes, and sorters)
I hope that makes sense. 🤔
Edit 1: Is it possible to build with pre-charged accumulators? Hmmm...
Edit 2: Only if you want to stamp down the accumulators manually - blueprints demand un-charged accumulators, pity.
Shame, putting down pre-charged accumulators would be awesome!@@Yardiff
Just an FYI that build actually produces 1 yellow science per second not 2. Still plenty for the early/mid game though. And one minor thing, the water in belt for the organic crystals stops directly underneath another belt so you have to delete part of the belt going over, connect the water then rebuild it. One extra segment of belt on the water belt would fix that. Otherwise fantastic as usual!
Whups! You're right!
Awesome job! I am just 2 behind you,, but takes me hours to get through, just one (episode)(video), just taken my time, and enjoying the ride. Last time I played, some 3 to 4 years ago, and never finished it. I also not remember, how to fly to another planet, and ended up way past my destination, and thought i was a goner, but luckly I was able to turn around and fly to the planet. Not sure you will see this, but if you do, I hope you tell us how to leave the solar system.
In order to leave the system you need warpers (made from green science). Once you have those, the process is almost the same as flying to other planets. Set a destination (so you know where to fly to), leave the planet normally in that direction, and active a warper to get additional speed.
Try not to run out of power while doing this, because that might leave you stuck in between solar systems ;)
29:39 Not even twice but actually infinite amount! Also it's kinda not cheating as the devs clearly intended it to be possible and even added an achievement for losing lots of titanium in space.
I wished the accumulators would be available much earlier in the tech tree. Maybe in a Tier 1 version with less capacity. That would be awesome for early game to help combat the power spikes and would be a nice addition to have as a building. When they come up later, they are almost useless cause at this point you have enough things in your toolbelt to just generate more power.
But the usage in your defence base is really nice.
They are still pretty early tbh you get them with red science. Though you're right they're never that good as a building but remain useful in partnership with energy exchangers well into the end game
About to transition to yellow science today wish me luck. Also playing in a system that has fire ice starting out is so useful. I’m setting it up to just mass produce solar sails it’s insane.
Good luck!
@@TheDutchActuary thanks transition turned out to be a bit harder and I also learned the hard way that solar sails aggravate the dark fog hive
Yeah! 45min of uninterrupted high efficient design work! You're gonna spoil us, TDA! Hahahaha
Great guide as per. One question... How do you do the turn immediately after crossing over a belt? (see the copper going over the coal at 3:08)
First make the belt pass the lower one, then delete everything after the bridge except for the first piece touching the ground. You should be able to make that turn (why it works like that but not when you want to do it directly, I have no idea).
Note that this only works with the 'end' part of the bridge, not with the 'start' while building.
@@TheDutchActuary amazing thank you. Could you not reverse the belt afterwards and do the same on the other side then reverse the belt again?
Probably! I got used to doing it like this and never actually tried to do it that way. The reverse belt thing is relatively new, but I don't see why it wouldn't work!@@Woogieuk
Maybe I just didn't see it but is there a reason why your only using wind turbine for power and not solar panels, etc ? I'm following your guide btw and I loooove it thank you so much!!!
Mostly because early on you'd need quite a bit of silicon for solar panels, and turbines are much easier to make. That said, once you get panels going it's more efficient to use those instead.
I'm playing a long but somehow the Darkfog is miles ahead in my save (I'm not letting it run at all I'm just building with the videos and learning). My home planet has 2 additional DF bases and the planet TDA has as unoccupied has 3 bases on it for me? Is there something I'm doing wrong?
The places the Dark Fog spawn are somewhat random. I take out any new spawns on my existing planets as soon as I notice them. Just place a signal tower in range, and the missiles should make short work of it (and a few geothermals help with power!!)
The first planet I settled only have a single base was a bit of a outlier - having 2-3 bases is very typical. The process around taking them out doesn't change though!
Thank you for these videos! Can anyone help me understand why you might use a PLS over an ILS?
Any time you're only going to transport items within the planet itself (episode 9 has an example of that in the rocket build). But honestly, I barely use them as in most cases it's just easier to use an ILS instead. It has an additional space, and connects to *everything*.
i have 300 hours in DSP and never had the idea of just using PLS next to my raw ores to easily utilize them... sometimes there a small things that make life easier..
Yup!
personally i did upscale the science in ther vertical a bit since it was a bit too slow for me but otherwise i like the guide
The 08 blueprint graphene/particle pt1 is missing some of the belt for water so that two of the chemical plants doesn't get any.
Thank you, fixed!
neat
Questions:
28:39 Why not leave the hole open and guard it with a signal tower? Would this not be an alternative? When it is closed or a thermal power plant is there then Dark Fog will get another hive somewhere else down I think
You are correct, leaving the relay station would prevent one from spawning elsewhere (although that will likely still happen anyway).
It also would continue to rebuild and actively generate hive threat (nothing huge, but I just picked the simply solution).
@@TheDutchActuary True. They build up till about 6 hives I think. I tried it in another save but when there are 6 and they are all guarded, no more to come then. Planet is yours :) But Dark Fog in space wont be happy to long about it
Also when it comes to destroying the relay stations and fighting the hive, the planetary shields come in clutch and with enough missile turrets it doesn’t matter if you destroy them. Personally I always destroy them 😅
Yep, i've been ignoring the shields for the moment (the POWERRRRRR they consume...) but once you have them up and running, you're basically invulnerable.
Did I miss a plasma exciter production facility somewhere? The bots mall needs them incoming. I can build it, just not sure if I missed something.
It's in the build that combines several inputs for the mall (this one: www.dysonsphereblueprints.com/blueprints/factory-018-miscellaneous-inputs )
@@TheDutchActuary thank you
Wonderful! Very good defense now with the missile turrets. 6 hives on the planet in the meantime, 180 bots attacking per wave, 2-3 waves mostly shortly one after another. I had quite the battle on the planet with the Titanium with about 8 hives. I let attacked them all, let the hole open with Signal Towers guarding so they can not rebuild. My space threat is 99.7% now. Back to home planet with 6 hives now. Damage is getting so big also due to space attacks it is not playable anymore for me. Needs more solid energy , windmills get attacked by the 6 hives cause they almost cover half of the planet now to get energy. It just defense and repair now, nothing can be done anymore. Maybe starting over with less agressive enemies
6 hives! I would recommend taking a few of those out, unless you're having fun farming them of course ;)
@chActuaryOn the blue planet I took them all out. On the home planet some new hives add and they attack now from the top side. So my gun turrets are not efective enough anymore and the missiles can not deal with them alone. To take out the hives on the homeplanet will be hard because mostly 2 hives sit so close together I would have to take out 2 hives at once. I think I will take blueprints of the home world and restart with less agressive enemy settings. Then I think I will put a farm of thermal powerplants up cause the windturbines just stretch to far out later and trigger hives
Check the next episode tomorrow (or now for members) - Taking out hives close together is very doable but it does require a bit more firepower@@Fky12345
I found that using spinners to drive a mall had throughput issues at scale, due to spinners limited speed, carrying capacity and the number you can use. Went back to PLS for that reason.
Initially this is definitely correct, but once you get a few upgrades for your spinners this mostly becomes a non-issue. That said, nothing wrong with some PLS's!
Since youtube is ignoring all of my bug reports, 360p is NOT high quality picture, it never will be. PLEASE give us back the ability to choose resolutions properly.
I am so sick of opening settings to manually select a watchable resolution when I've already told you to choose the HIGHEST setting.
This video is available in 1080p, it's streaming just fine in 1080p now that I've manually selected it.
This is a massive annoyance, and we know that you target smaller channels with these bandwidth restrictions.
Its unfair, and not the quality I expect for a paid streaming service.
TH-cam, get your act together!
Great video Dutch, hope my complaint helps boost the algorithm. It's a shame TH-cam won't give your videos a fair go!
Certain popular platforms seem to always default to 1080p at minimum, and the common factor is subscriber count.
It's not on if you ask me. I'm paying for access to youtube, not the top ten people youtube feels like promoting.
The part for expanding to a planet is quite hard for me as I have multiple enemy bases on there and the little base you made isnt enough fire power to destroy a base :/ Guess I have to build multiple of those bases
Yes, as indicated in the other episode on the dark fog you usually need 2-3 to clear out the enemy efficiently. The reason I keep the build relatively small is to ensure you can easily fit it between enemy bases - it allows for more flexibilty in its placement.
why is 6 the magic number and how do u know how much refinery one oil extractor can handle?
6 is just a number that keeps appearing in the ratio's, but to your second question - each extractor produces about 2-3 oil / initially. Generally, with 2 extractors you have about 1 full MK1 belt of raw oil.
The amount will go down over time and the exact value differs a bit per source of course.
curious why you don't use thermal gens when you started needing a lot of power for red science? seems better than covering half the planet in wind turbines
Thermals use a LOT of resources and can spiral your factory into power-death. If you ever run below 100% power, the resource input in the thermals goes down, resulting in less power, resulting in less input, less power, etc.
This scenario can easily happen if you are scaling up your production, which is pretty much what you'll be constantly doing in this stage of the game. In short, you'll need to pay close attention to your power if you go this route (but if you do, it works just fine).
Wind turbines on the other hand aren't pretty, but they work 100% of the time at zero risk, regardless of your current utilization of your power grid.
@@TheDutchActuary When do you usually switch off them then? when you get to deuterium fuel rods? or hydrogen?
@@TheDutchActuary Loving your master class videos btw. I've always tried to make entirely too much when I've unlocked something XD So watching you has really changed my perspective on the early to mid game
Ah yes, my archnemesis: yellow science.
How are you not being overrun? My waves never stop increasing in size.
They cap out at 180 units. My wall of turrets + the rockets keep them in check just fine. Just make sure you have enough power running (not just outside of attacks, but especially DURING the attacks when all the turrets suddenly start using far more energy)
23:55 is this a bug? why the hell are the solar panels, following you?
I use a mod to keep light centered on my Mech all the time. It makes sure that you don't have to watch me play in the darkness, but doesn't actually do anything to the game mechanics.
However, a side effect is that the solar panels act like you're a star. So instead of following the sun, they follow me around ;)
For the algorithm
This is gonna be hard for me as all other planets have about 9base each on them lol
The first few bases are the hardest. Once you get a good dent in them you should be able to take over fairly easy, as long as you don't run out of missiles ;)
Try building an additional base with turrets once you cleared out the closets relay stations. Taking out close-ish bases is a lot easier than those on the other side of the planet.
@@TheDutchActuary Iv just cleared the last base using about 100 missile launchers (no not over kill). The enemy base were all close together. A lot of save/load and making attack patterns on the which base. Down side to this was it all around the platinum… so you’re 45min video has turn into a 5hour war game for me lol
Same. If you have a dense cluster of bases it means you need a lot of missile turrets. A larger initial burst of missiles can demolish most of a base and reduce later waves. It requires a lot of power though, so accumulators really are essential.
Sounds like some major carnage! :D@@Nelleil_86
@@EamonnLawler the carnage was epic wish I had more battle station(whatever the building is) to collect all the materials that dropped, I filled up 9 of them to the max. Now trying to fortify a base on the other planet now but there are 9may 10 base not sure but it a lot gonna but another 100 launchers on the planet and connect a PLS with missile pumping in.
Ehh... this could just be my brain, but anyone else suddenly see a creepy covid virus in the windfarm-studded planet?
Yikes!