Piecing Together The Twisted Metal Timeline

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  • @MattSipka
    @MattSipka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +602

    The game’s creator David Jaffe stated that he writes each game is a standalone and doesn’t follow a specific timeline or cannon. I like to imagine each game is set in their own alternate reality.

    • @LEWIS1992
      @LEWIS1992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      100% yes, this is the best way to view the series. People try WAY too hard to connect things that simply aren't there.

    • @JosetheDopeLPs
      @JosetheDopeLPs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      It can still be fun to try and connect things though even if it wasn't the original creator's intention.

    • @Onlybadtakes2589
      @Onlybadtakes2589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Makes a lot more sense, since Marcus Kane keeps hinting that this isnt real

    • @Acehalo2
      @Acehalo2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      So Twisted Metal and Final Fantasy follow the same sequel pattern of "This is not a sequel, it's just in a parallel universe that uses the same motifs"? I like it. :)

    • @froobleton
      @froobleton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Makes sense as characters die in each game from being blown up

  • @oxitape1563
    @oxitape1563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +788

    If I were given the opportunity to revive one of PlayStation’s franchises I will always pick Twisted Metal without hesitation.

    • @claytonkickflip7595
      @claytonkickflip7595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      I remember being a kid playing Twisted metal just chilling on all the maps on the first and second finding all the secrets.
      Vigilante 8 had great map secrets as well.

    • @oxitape1563
      @oxitape1563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@claytonkickflip7595 I’m only really familiar with Twisted Metal Black and the 2012 reboot but those games are fucking awesome and I’m assuming the classic games are as well.

    • @Matty.Hill_87
      @Matty.Hill_87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I grew up playing 1 and 2, I wish they'd bring them back

    • @oxitape1563
      @oxitape1563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Matty.Hill_87 yeah. A remaster or remake of those games would be awesome.

    • @TaylorMade223
      @TaylorMade223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@oxitape1563 grew up with the originals 1 & 2, and after playing the 2012 version with my kids and seeing their reaction, it definitely had the same effect. Great times

  • @Hitomora
    @Hitomora 2 ปีที่แล้ว +488

    If you read the Manslaughter Character Bio from Twisted Metal Lost, it states that Black (Manslaughters Driver) is from a different dimension and was sent to "The Black Universe" to kill its version of Calypso by a "More Colorful Calypso" (which to me describes the Calypso of Twisted Metal Two). So there is possibly infinite timelines of Twisted Metal with each one having their own tournament winner, their own Calypso, tournament origin, and even drivers of cars

    • @ChawletMelk
      @ChawletMelk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Kinda sounds like Kang in the MCU

    • @TheCrowebar
      @TheCrowebar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Cool info

    • @kendonl.taylor5111
      @kendonl.taylor5111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      So Twisted Metal Black takes place in an alternate timeline.

    • @Hitomora
      @Hitomora 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@kendonl.taylor5111 Black is just how Sweet Tooth sees the world, but you can say its like a different dimension then the one we all see in the first few games

    • @tysnow9524
      @tysnow9524 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Black was sent by the devil to collect calypso soul

  • @Dazs
    @Dazs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +364

    Great explanation, I heard humors of a new twisted metal and hope they take the story to the next level!

    • @mallietec9877
      @mallietec9877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I hope a new twisted metal actually get made

    • @jessejive117
      @jessejive117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I did too but I also heard it will probably be free to play which means there’s a good chance we won’t even get a story mode :/ which is literally 85% of what makes twisted metal great. It’s the characters and their stories!

    • @ashleynills7507
      @ashleynills7507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      You heard humors?.. were they funny? Did you laugh??

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@ashleynills7507 wow just realized this typo months later LOL

    • @JeyVGaming
      @JeyVGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I also heard that they're still making a TV series of Twisted Metal but without David Jaffe's involvement. This will either be exciting or will just be huge disaster..

  • @DarkAngelBluejay
    @DarkAngelBluejay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    "...and L.A. is still burning? What the hell?"
    Me: *looks at California wildfires, and Centralia PA coal fire (burning since 1962)* Yup.
    Also, the 4th game could be Sweettooth's retelling of history, and much like a story told by the Joker, is unreliable as hell. If you look at it in that light though, all inconsistencies sort of vanish. This is all in the eyes of a madman. Heck, 4, Small Brawl, and Black could just be the "Sweettooth Timeline".

  • @hotmealdotcomma
    @hotmealdotcomma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    In Calypso's trophy case, you also see several videogames the developers worked on previously. One of them is Twisted Metal 2, which in my mind confirms the idea that Calypso is a demon that can reset time or travel dimensions.

    • @jessejive117
      @jessejive117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well I think what happened is calypso died in a car accident with his family and went to hell but if he beat minion in a race he would get to go back to Earth to run the twisty metal competition will be given that ring. And he won the race. I’m pretty sure there’s a graphic novel or something.

    • @Qvmmy
      @Qvmmy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      aren't the robot cop character from tm4 try to arrest sweet tooth for messing with timelines and such

    • @shonenjumpmagneto
      @shonenjumpmagneto ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, Calypso isn't a demon but a normal guy more or less who went to Hell & escaped via a demon he somehow got under his control. So hes like a normal human who gained satanic mystical power more or less. (Correct me if wrong but there may be many origins)

    • @shonenjumpmagneto
      @shonenjumpmagneto ปีที่แล้ว

      God Of War as well.

  • @whatthespenny4835
    @whatthespenny4835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    For the trinkets in the show case, I believe the stack of bricks is from Mr Slamm. The bag is from Sweet Tooth's lost ending. The dolls are from Shadows ending from TM: Black. The Teddy bear is from Outlaws story in TM: Black. The Fbi id is Roadkill's from TM: Black. The ruined helmet is from Twisters ending from TM2. The key is from Dollface's mask from TM: Black

    • @whatthespenny4835
      @whatthespenny4835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      And thinking about them not knowing what to do story wise back when the first game was released just reminds me of the zombies game mode from Call of Duty, was a fun Easter Egg that ended up with a multiverse

    • @chefboiardeeznutz9881
      @chefboiardeeznutz9881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I wonder why the blades of chaos are there. I didnt know that. That's crazy

    • @whatthespenny4835
      @whatthespenny4835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@chefboiardeeznutz9881 Just there as a nice little easter egg, David Jaffe was the main guy behind Twisted Metal and God of War

    • @chefboiardeeznutz9881
      @chefboiardeeznutz9881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@whatthespenny4835 that is so cool lol

    • @fuckityfuckfuckfuck846
      @fuckityfuckfuckfuck846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You forgot about the second bottle. At first, I thought it was the cure for twisted metal black sweetooths ending. But looking up a video of the games endings, the cure bottle in black looked long and thin while the display bottle was short and fat. The bottle was also broken...

  • @xxxxxandozel1645
    @xxxxxandozel1645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    After looking at that timeline, I’m kind of more say… Confused in a way. Cause you see, While TM 1 has less drivers the game implies that each one of them won in some way or form but that seems… wrong in a way.
    Turns out i found out something, There was apparently not just one winner for these contests… quite literally calypso had the world in his pocket where everyone entered the contest and only the chosen few drivers ever won.
    TM1 contestants that either won or died got established by TM2, but here’s the catch… Sweet tooth dying in TM2? That actually happened, the original needles kane died and so did his father Charlie which left us with Marcus Kane and his personality who won and got transported into the Dimensional World, in that world when Marcus won again Calypso simply put him back to his house or allowed his Primal side to take over.
    So what about TM Black? Well that’s before Twisted Metal 1 and although the devs went with the marcus thing for minion (Because they ran out of time, thanks sony…) Minion is actually a Champion title and believe it or not War hawk is part of the military so Crazy-8 quite literally killed a non-contestant and Calypso wanted to share his gratitude for it because he hates people trying to stop him or just hates the law. So what happened in 2003’s Contest? There was no crowned Winner to be given the title of minion so a trailer gang managed to win (Surprisingly no one else won) which brings us to TM1, now TM1’s Sweet tooth does definitely like killing people and kind of has an ego telling me that TM Black is quite literally how he imagined his life despite being the total opposite of that, so the timeline i got is this…
    1994-2001: 7 Twisted Metal Contests happen, A large Tanker driver wins the 7th contest earning the title of minion.
    2002: Takes place in midtown, A boxing player lost his eyes and tongue, killing a few people looking for the man who took his normal life away, Calypso announces the 8th Tournament and personally Ask if Crazy-8 wants in after killing the Asylum guard for Door “C1” Canonical Ultimate Champion of the 8th tournament. Crazy-8 Wins and also “Mistakens” War hawk for a Contestant and Calypso grants him his wish with a bonus for killing War hawk. Raven wins afterwards, killing unknown contestants (Same for Crazy-8) and getting her wish.
    2003: 9th Tournament happens and gang in a trailer win, earning the title of Minion.
    2004: 10th tournament happens, multiple winners at the Los Angeles tournament. Winners are, Outlaw, Crimson & Yellow Jacket. Black mysteriously Disappears after Crimson wins, Outlaw is lost in space, Charlie becomes the new Minion and learns that his son is the infamous Sweet tooth.
    2005: World Tour contest, Many contestants win, most notably Outlaw as the ultimate Champion (Again), However was prepared to be sent in space and saved the original driver.
    2006-2011: Unknown events, possible Tournament interruptions and Calypso gives his Uncle eddie the title of Minion (Calypso considers him an embarrassing part of his family, given he’s plain stupid despite being strong enough to kill calypso with his hands).
    2012: Many contestants win, Including Calypso’s Uncle (No clear Champion is given in head on… their bad i guess).
    2013-2021: Calypso refines his tournament and makes it officially legal as no one from the law can face him (Since he quite literally aged backwards each year that passed).
    2022: The most current tournament to date, Only 3 winners and Preacher mysteriously survived his leap of fate (God does work in mysterious ways Preacher, i can see what you mean). Preacher gives it upon himself that someone or him needs to end the contests before calypso reaches his full power. Marcus dies, his son takes up his mantle, his daughter is born as a new minion for the next Tournament. (Believe it or not… Charlie kane and Son quite literally goes towards Son being Marcus in the real world (Strange why he named his kid after his insane dad’s Grandpa, Marcus is possibly possessed by the Original Needles kane from TM1 due to the mask which means Charlie will get possessed too, but he already knows Calypso is worse then the mask he will start wearing).

    • @deadlyninja112
      @deadlyninja112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Your a hero for this comment

    • @shonenjumpmagneto
      @shonenjumpmagneto ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh man, I wish I could trust this as anything but head canon. There's usually 2 rules of thumb, creators & consistency, either can overrule the other. I don't know but I appreciate your comment. Very cool & thought out for the mess The TM Franchise is.

  • @juicyjones2327
    @juicyjones2327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    As a huge Twisted Metal nerd, I can tell you a majority of the items in Calypso’s trophy case.
    The plane tickets were from Mike and Stu’s ending in Twisted Metal 2
    The voodoo dolls are from Raven’s ending in Twisted Metal Black,
    Twister’s Helmet from Twisted Metal 2,
    Teddy Bear is from Outlaw’s ending in Black,
    Dollface’s Key from Black

    • @livanbard
      @livanbard ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The bricks from the tower of mr slam, the paper bag from sweet tooth 1

    • @Pundit07
      @Pundit07 ปีที่แล้ว

      On a semi-related topic and as a (sorta former) gamer nerd myself, another detail is the War Of The Monsters for PS2 in the display case. I just have a ton of good memories with that game as a kid.

    • @shonenjumpmagneto
      @shonenjumpmagneto ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool to imagine Kratos as a playable Twisted Metal character. He clearly exists is The Twisted Metal Multiverse (which is what it is, like Dragon Ball or MCU)

  • @sendbobs2509
    @sendbobs2509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Fun fact: Darkside was meant to be a playable vehicle in TM2 and it's driver was an elderly woman with a massive gun named Granny Dark. Even though the character didn't make it into the game, her character design was re-tooled and used in Rogue Trip: Vacation 2012 as a tourist named Hortense Von Crank. It's possible that the devs of TM2 used the Granny Dark concept and adapted her into the driver of Hammerhead, Granny Dread.

    • @jessejive117
      @jessejive117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That would be scary to have this really old evil woman as a twisted metal character

    • @maxfieldstanton5005
      @maxfieldstanton5005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Funny you mention Rogue Trip, as there are vehicles and names in Twisted Metal 2012 that reference Rogue Trip, like the pest control truck being named Vermin, like the time my car in Rogue Trip that’s driven by the wrestler. Then there’s the name “Meat Wagon “ which is seemingly for gruesome humor purposes applied to an ambulance car. In Rogue Trip “Meat Wagon” was a wiener mobile while at the same time there was another car ambulance named “Ozone”.

    • @DraxWithASax
      @DraxWithASax 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@maxfieldstanton5005if they make a new twisted metal it'd be cool if they took more inspiration from Rogue Trip. A Wienermobile would be an awesome addition for Twisted Metal. Or a vigilante themed character in a Batmobile-esque vehicle like Intruder/Ratman would be great.

  • @Lunar1us
    @Lunar1us 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Twisted metal 2012 takes place in 2022"
    HOL' UP

  • @richardpell
    @richardpell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    It's crazy watching all of this information compiled because I really don't think the ones responsible for writing this story thought this much about it lmao

    • @shonenjumpmagneto
      @shonenjumpmagneto ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sad truth. Sometimes we have to will canon into existence. Snyder Cut for example.

  • @dyingEnet
    @dyingEnet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    the multiverse thing is outright confirmed, the reboot was originally pitched with the concept of all three characters getting an ending based on difficulty, which Calypso even references in the cut final cutscene when confronted by the preacher.

  • @sendbobs2509
    @sendbobs2509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Something I noticed playing Small Brawl was Spectre's ending and it's ties to TM2. Ken Masters is apparently TMSB Spectre's dad, and whether or not Ken is still alive isn't mentioned. You could interpret that as all (or at least some of) the kids in SB are the children of past TM competitors.

  • @TheSirAnthony
    @TheSirAnthony 2 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    I love the idea of Calypso being a multi dimensional being that occupies multiple realities.
    It's kind of how Darkseid works in DC comics, all of the versions of Darkseid you see aren't his true form, they are just vessels for him to present himself

    • @areshenderson1533
      @areshenderson1533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wrong

    • @katiequeen7225
      @katiequeen7225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@areshenderson1533 Not completely, the new gods do in fact only have one true form in the multiverse, problem is that there are multiple multiverses which is kinda stupid

    • @areshenderson1533
      @areshenderson1533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@katiequeen7225 I am a Darkseid fan. My favorite character in Fiction to the point I'd kneel to him. With that being said, he has been clapped by Superman more than a few times in Post Crisis. At least in New 52 they tried making him more beastly by blowing a planet 🤷🤷🤷. But his overall record against Supes is not good.

    • @patrickoconnell8719
      @patrickoconnell8719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@katiequeen7225 the realm of the new gods exist OUTSIDE of the multiverse where the gods can watch and observe it. So anything that happens there won't affect them.

    • @freddylisy10
      @freddylisy10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@areshenderson1533 then you should know that the beings being fought are mainly the avatars of darkseid that he uses to not destroy the universe that he wants to occupy and that he did get obliterated by Superman singing his true form to death

  • @BlackiechanFu
    @BlackiechanFu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    To reiterate what I said in your other video, the series creator David Jaffe never intended to create an overarching storyline for these games. In summary, yeah every game takes place in its own universe and some cars you pick will have a continued story such as Outlaw or Twister, but that's only if you pick those cars.

    • @Xegethra
      @Xegethra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's how I saw it. You pick a car and their story carries on, the others don't. You pick another one and it's story carries on, the others don't. Even if they die in one of their endings only to come back in another game, the monkeys paw thing being temporary or the deaths being reversed. But none of that happened if the next game doesn't mention it, you could say they didn't come first and are just trying again.

  • @ElArlequin
    @ElArlequin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Dude. I thought I was the only asshole that was lost in the lore of this game! I never cared for the gameplay. For me the characters and the universe makes it so interesting! I hope the next game takes its to develop this!

    • @jessejive117
      @jessejive117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly. I think the gameplay is found though but it’s absolutely about the wild story and even parts of the confusing contradictions are What gives this universe even more mystery.

    • @adammurray8361
      @adammurray8361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The soul of this game can be found in 1 and 2,, they really should meditate in the elements used here because there's nothing else like it! Mad Max and fast and furious w escape from LA xD the vibe is mad and I get get enough even tho I've played these to death when they came out . I'm old As warthog man

    • @____________838
      @____________838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@adammurray8361 it’s crazy to think that I got into the game with 4, but even it was fun enough to drive me to play 1&2 and just fall in love with the entire series…

    • @goober69er
      @goober69er 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do think vigilante 2nd offense did the car combat gameplay way better however their world and characters do not stack up to twisted metals.

  • @Sweetestsadist
    @Sweetestsadist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I think Roadkill's ending in Twisted Metal 2 confirms the "all in Sweet Tooth's head" hypothesis. Sweet Tooth wants to stay in the head canon while Marcus wants to escape. Marcus is falsely "escaping" in his ending and coming to terms with killing his family by "reuniting" with them.
    Head-On's ending seems to support this, as well, as Calypso basically tells Marcus he's in control of everything.
    Perhaps Calypso is a being that can exploit the psychological state of Sweet Tooth's mind for his own amusement.
    Or he might be Marcus Kane's interpretation of a psychiatrist trying to break through to him and each tournament is a heavy session where the most progress is made.

    • @nathanielgarza9198
      @nathanielgarza9198 ปีที่แล้ว

      In TM2 I took his ended more to mean Marcus was in the real world he just didn’t see it as real
      As what Calypso says he can’t wish for him to wake up to the real world when he is already awake not an issue with him not having the power it is just a logical impossibility

  • @monster56619
    @monster56619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Captain Spears, first name Shawn. Lance Wilder, formerly Dash. I saw what you did there.

    • @TBP
      @TBP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You know it.

    • @Snitzal
      @Snitzal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah me too

  • @monasteryfounder
    @monasteryfounder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    "Time manipulation... Mind reading... Ohh, he has many powers."
    Preacher, referring to Calypso, TM2012.
    Multiversal travel is apparently correct, based on what we're given.

  • @flare0080
    @flare0080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Back before Black was released, I’ve always liked to think that Pit Viper’s TM2 ending (Krista Sparks robot) was canonical and that 3 and 4 just didn’t exist.
    TM 3 and 4 were actually a lot of fun, gameplay wise, but we’re such a huge departure from the story.

    • @MountainMemelord
      @MountainMemelord ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not to be that guy, but Krista drove Grasshopper.

  • @DaddyODadio
    @DaddyODadio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    'i want my little clown boy back!' meeting Darktooth was the most epic. the destruction aspect was almost always pure shock when it came to shooting off the map and into the diatance

  • @CarmineKar98K
    @CarmineKar98K 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    TM 3&4 might not have been looked at fondly for the whacky story/endings plus that cgi lol but to me it's one of those things where it's so bad it's good type of deals and at the end of the day they both had very good refined gameplay for Car combat also the music was really good across all games.
    It still makes me happy seeing new folk find the series and become a fan! I grew up on this franchise and wish it could've continued.

    • @hamzahussain7794
      @hamzahussain7794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      TM4 was my most played game of this series followed by Small Brawl and I didn't even know people hate TM4. I liked all the characters and the combat was really good.

    • @VILEPAINTS
      @VILEPAINTS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@hamzahussain7794 4 and small brawl were the only ps1 games I would replay on my ps2 well into 2009! Unfortunately my ps2 broke and didn’t get a console until 2013 but by that time I had lost the discs and ps3 didn’t have backwards compatibility :(

    • @____________838
      @____________838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Admittedly, 4 was the game that got me into the series, so I do have quite a bit of love for it.

    • @ZigealFaust
      @ZigealFaust 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hamzahussain7794 Same. 4 legit still is my favorite and most played next to Black and the "Andys Room" and Carnival stages are amazing.
      PLUS you could create your own chars. I seriously don't get the hate.

  • @SpacexWitch
    @SpacexWitch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Twisted Metal 4 was what got me into Twisted Metal as a kid!

  • @jakirakumahata5701
    @jakirakumahata5701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    On the one hand I kind of like the "Who cares!? Blow stuff up!" approach to their storytelling and canon, but the thought of a real, coherent story driven single player experience a la Mortal Kombat's recent sequels REALLY appeals to me

  • @salvadorpereira5084
    @salvadorpereira5084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sub for this video....we need a Sweet Tooth analysis...

  • @liamJKDAT1gamer
    @liamJKDAT1gamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kratos blades of Chaos is a reference that David jafee created both twisted metal and god of war.

  • @mikealangeloy
    @mikealangeloy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    21:10 You're actually 100% right, David Jaffe said that they didn't want to commit to any canon, and because of that really all of the endings can in fact exist in their own universe. It's either in one of the videos on his channel talking about working on it, or in GhenryPerez's video on a retrospective of the entire series alongside an interview he got to do with David Jaffe as well.

  • @blackandpowerful
    @blackandpowerful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had a similar theory, I think Twisted Metal consists of pervious tournament winners with Minion being the previous winner and Outlaw being the winner of the 2006 tournament. The winners got what they wished for, or they was able to push their agenda which explains why we never seen some characters ever again.
    I think Sweet Tooth either died, went to hell and was brought back by Calypso, or there is more than one Sweet Tooth.
    Charlie Kane was on a suicide mission, until Calypso told him Sweet Tooth was his son, then it motivated him to seek revenge by becoming Dark Tooth.

  • @TheOfficialDaBoogaloo
    @TheOfficialDaBoogaloo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Twisted Metal 4 is literally my favourite and the one I’ve played the most. I think it’s funny how much people shit on it.

    • @____________838
      @____________838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right? After starting with 4 and playing all of them, 3 was the weakest to me…

  • @Matty.Hill_87
    @Matty.Hill_87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This game needs a come back, on new consoles it could be so good

    • @chesspunk489
      @chesspunk489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They would just mess it up like they did with the 2012 game.

    • @dr.pepperphdindeliciousnes1396
      @dr.pepperphdindeliciousnes1396 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As long as it has a decent story mode and the characters make sense. I think 2012 suffered so much because the single player was really bare bones. However, I do not want a TM4 type of story with joke characters like Pizza Boy and Drag Queen. I hope TMPS5 is similar to 1, 2 Head On or Black. Fingers crossed.

  • @VenomousHigh
    @VenomousHigh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    TM2 taking place across a single day/night can be neatly explained by the fact that Calypso has serious supernatural powers in that one, as indicated by 90% of the endings in the game. He probably just teleported the combatants from place to place. Given the things he does in the endings, I'm sure he could do that fairly effortlessly.

  • @kenpanderz672
    @kenpanderz672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    when a series/franchise retcons things to the point where the canon becomes irreconcilable, i always go for the "AU" option. if its not similar enough, its not the same universe, but its "canon" in a different universe.

    • @TheVamxie
      @TheVamxie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats how i understand the multiverse

  • @ThirstBuster
    @ThirstBuster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What if the reason we keep seeing each character multiple times throughout the series despite the fact that each year only 1 person can win, in each timeline, and assuming everyone else dies. Is because Calypso is just pulling them from other near identical timelines so he can keep watching his favorite drivers battle it out.

  • @calemr
    @calemr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would love to see either a long video, or a series of videos, exploring each character in the franchise.
    'Cause I had no idea how much backstory there was for Twisted Metal, but now I'm super curious about it all.

  • @JackArcherX
    @JackArcherX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've always felt Small Brawl was meant to be more of a prequel, set before the incident with Calypso's sister that would lead him into the demolition derbies. It does also kind of give a context as to why he chose to do a tournament like Twisted Metal to gather souls as opposed to a more direct kind of approach.

  • @GaryTurbo
    @GaryTurbo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    III and 4 is non canon because David Jaffe (the series creator) confirmed it. Small Brawl is just a one shot as well as Black and Head On is chronologically the third

  • @BJI82a
    @BJI82a 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Please do more twisted metal videos and maybe more timelines when the TV series comes out and revives the game series

  • @moxifloxi
    @moxifloxi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TM:Black will always be a masterpiece to me 🤤

  • @dylancourville8708
    @dylancourville8708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nebulous. That is the best word to describe to the continuity between all the games. There basically is none.

  • @ChrisYoungGunn
    @ChrisYoungGunn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    david jaffe was part of god of war also, that's why the blades of chaos were in calypso's office

  • @jordanpeterson5038
    @jordanpeterson5038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always thought after the fourth game happened with calypso's ending is how small brawl came to be. It looks like it could fit but in that case the whole thing could have created a separate timeline.

  • @WaggerFiggot15
    @WaggerFiggot15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The guy who created twisted metal , created god of war . That's why the blades are there . Happy more people are getting into twisted metal , really was hoping the twisted reboot got the support it needed to get the episodic updates they were planning .

  • @jessejive117
    @jessejive117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Also, calypso and twisted metal black is the same exact character as sweeties. They’ve got the same body and scars and are missing the same eye. It’s just sweet tooth without the mask and the flaming hair.

    • @MrStrikecentral
      @MrStrikecentral 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I never noticed that until you mentioned it here. Hats off to you!

    • @jessejive117
      @jessejive117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrStrikecentral I appreciate it but I don’t think I figured it out myself. Someone pointed it out in a video, well not the eye in the scar but they were the same character and once someone points that out you can’t really un see it ;) which is really cool and explains why calypso looks so different. Which also makes sense since everything in this game takes place in sweet tooth’s head or needles cane I should say. What a wild game.

  • @MarvelousPhilly
    @MarvelousPhilly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Man, I used to love this game back when I was a kid. I remember begging my parents to get me the 1st game for Xmas. Loved every moment. Especially with TM2 & 3.

  • @zekewhitworth433
    @zekewhitworth433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think you might have given TM4 less attention than you should have because you don't like it. It's possible that it's taking place quite a while after the other games and that the intro scene is what the narrator imagines it to have looked like. They don't explicitly say that it happened earlier than 1995. It just appears that way to us because of the cinematic.

  • @femalecalypso2517
    @femalecalypso2517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can you do the Backstory Of Calypso please?,I highly recommend you look up on the Twisted Metal 2 Comic it's pretty easy to know about him.

  • @DailyBassist564
    @DailyBassist564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Probably too late to mention this, but Black does take place in 2001. Mr. Grimm states in his story he was captured in Vietnam in 1971 and then spent 30 years in the asylum.

  • @phirsch21
    @phirsch21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Dash Wilder reference made me pop

    • @irvincontreras3987
      @irvincontreras3987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      AEW

    • @TBP
      @TBP  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Best fucking tag team in the world, and don't let anybody say differently.

  • @Ebakthecat
    @Ebakthecat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just a thought: The first game says it's the 10th competition. Could it be argued that it necessarily doesn't mean it's been going on for 10 years but is merely the 10th tournament and it becoming a yearly thing was only recent?

  • @dongadson1099
    @dongadson1099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I came from that TM2 era with my neighbor having the OG. I would borrow it from time to time just so I could have the experience of playing both. Christmas came around and my GMA got me TM3. I remember I snuck the game from under the tree, opened it early, and never got caught. I was scared my mom would catch me but I pulled it off. Years later, for the nostalgia, I grabbed "Head On" as well as "Black", which came with a digital copy of "Lost". I fell in love with the character dialogues and the dark & gritty tones.

  • @jamesalexhowlett
    @jamesalexhowlett 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Small brawl is directly connected to TW2. Specter in small brawl is the son of specter from TW2. Also: Black is non canonical because it takes place in Marcus’ head. We know this because of minion’s story line.

  • @roberthouse4817
    @roberthouse4817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like to think Twisted Metal 4 was the delusions Sweet Tooth had as a child, he would see the carnival roll through and he would imagine he was a part of it and he would probably make up stories in his head where he was a contestant and won, i think 4 is more like a collection of vivid hallucinations by sweet tooth. This could also be supported by the fact there is a giant bedroom, this could have been memories of Sweet Tooth playing with cars pretending he was directing Twisted Metal

  • @RaspberyLemonade
    @RaspberyLemonade ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I might be a Twisted Metal newbie but I adore this series so much! I love seeing videos about it pop up, its always a fun time!

  • @AmyraCarter
    @AmyraCarter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes, those were Kratos' blades; the designer of Needles Kane also designed Kratos, but I believe you know this already. #GasterEgg
    I've played most of the Twisted Metal games; haven't been able to play Small Brawl, Black or 2012 yet...Head-On is definitely my fave though, and especially because we all know that some day, Krysta's gonna wake up, lolz (she's gonna be pissed too)

  • @war2theren227
    @war2theren227 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like to imagine that each ending from 2 created a separate reality, and in Head-On the champions from those games all came together in a separate reality lead by a new Calypso.
    Also in TM2, Marcus's ending has him waking up from a coma where he was in a 25 car pile up. Maybe that's the true canon ending, and the other games in the series are just the nightmares of the people still in comas.

  • @ECWPlays
    @ECWPlays 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The multiverse theory also plays well into binding Sweet Tooth's appearance in other games, like in Playstation All Stars, or Rocket League.

  • @FGHypnotiq
    @FGHypnotiq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shawn Spears, Dash Wilder...are you making wrestling references? Lol

    • @Dem0nDaddy
      @Dem0nDaddy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I caught it too. Has to be.

  • @TCC180
    @TCC180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the theory proposed here, and this is without even mentioning all the time travel shenanigans different winners have caused.
    Also, Calypso has a copy of War of the Monsters on his trophy shelf at the very end. it's not really important, but as a fan of that game it made me smile to see it. :)

  • @Stebokanebo
    @Stebokanebo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I tell you guys I use to play twisted metal 1 for hours upon hours. I was poor and it was the only game I had.

  • @Nightbanekaizer
    @Nightbanekaizer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait if Twisted Metal 2012 takes place in 2022 does that mean...............?
    Shame there won't be a new game ever from what I understood out of the people behind the license.
    But I'm curious to know more about that TV show.

  • @MalaLlama
    @MalaLlama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always thought that tm4 intro was just a minion exagerating sweet tooth rise to power ...

  • @Juggale
    @Juggale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Possible arguement that 4 is cannon to the mainline.
    Why couldn't there be multiple people running the Twisted Metal tournament at different points in time for the devil. It could have been under different names for the event, and using the same monkier over multiple people to give the idea that it's been ran by one person for all this time. Sorta like the idea of "Dread Pirate Roberts" from Princess Bride. Something passed down to multiple people.

  • @alexbethea6592
    @alexbethea6592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're partly right about calypso. Multi-dimensional jinn, for reference watch wishmaster. Same Jinn, but got tired of being trapped at the end of each movie.

  • @xXEmo54Xx
    @xXEmo54Xx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think a fairly common theory believed by some people is that small brawl takes place after calypso's ending in TM4 where sweet tooth loses the ring and a kid who looks like the calypso from small brawl takes it to start his own twisted metal.

  • @HOTD108_
    @HOTD108_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Twisted Metal being in a multiverse kind of ruins all dramatic stakes. Why should I care about what happens? Nothing matters because everything is infinite.

  • @Christiantheforestdweller
    @Christiantheforestdweller 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "this might work if sweet tooth has some sort of issues he haven't worked through"
    Really? Such a stable well put together individual like that? Huh. The more you know

  • @SirSwervin
    @SirSwervin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is one detail with dollface's story (it was either Black or 2012 Reboot, can't remember) that ties Calypso's different appearances together. The doctor she talks about's name is "Dr. Ospylac" which is "Calypso" backwards. Meaning he changed his appearance to cause her to join the games, so he has the ability to change his appearance whenever and however he wants.

  • @claytonkickflip7595
    @claytonkickflip7595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seeing this video and your video about Twisted Metal black has brought back some serious nostalgia. I’ll never forget the map secrets of Twisted Metal 2.
    You should check out Vigilante 8 and it’s sequel if you like the vehicle combat with deep lore and secrets. Great maps, too.

  • @StriderStryker
    @StriderStryker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let’s hope the TV show address this series to its lore or else it would end up like the *Uncharted movie.*

  • @NCTStudio
    @NCTStudio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Yellowjacket digivolved into Dark Tooth” lol

  • @NekoNiv
    @NekoNiv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not the blades of chaos.... the blades in the Twisted metal trophy case, are the new hands Warhog gets in his ending. They were a bonus reward

  • @2001coolchemist
    @2001coolchemist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having played them all, which was your favorite? I was a crazy fan of 1 and 2, then played 3, 4 and black to major disappointment so I gave up on the franchise. I wonder if you found that Head On or 2012 were worth the trouble of playing.

    • @ssww3
      @ssww3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tm2 head one and black are my favorites but black is my all time favorite

  • @Sinister_Scotty
    @Sinister_Scotty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    twisted metal taking place is multiple universes would explain why you fight the same characters in each match until the boss battle.

  • @beyond_the_tequila_rift3194
    @beyond_the_tequila_rift3194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is at 21:19 The violater from SPAWN? Looks like him in his full fledged demon form.

  • @riko918ab6
    @riko918ab6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man they should put you in work in naxt tm game story

  • @MisterMistea
    @MisterMistea ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I heard an interesting theory regarding TM4's retcon. In it, Nelvin states he'd "heard it from his boss", referring to the story of Calypso in the opening cutscene. Someone suggested this means Needles is an unreliable narrator of sorts, and given that's the case for TMB, maybe he is

    • @MisterMistea
      @MisterMistea ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you think of it that way, you could make some wiggle room and say TM4 is after Head-On

  • @kakonoteouji4876
    @kakonoteouji4876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4 maybe non canon but still great game. 3 and 4 would be my favorite of the series.

  • @brianmartinez1412
    @brianmartinez1412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All of Calypso's trophies are from games the original creator David Jaffe has been involved with like TM1, TM2, Black, and even God of War.

  • @bravecorporatelogo
    @bravecorporatelogo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this was the absolute last place i expected to hear an FTR reference but i’m here for it

  • @tzvikrasner6073
    @tzvikrasner6073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Black treating multiple endings as canon depending on who you play is actually mirrored in several Mortal Kombat games. In particular, Johnny Cage's endings in several games treat his original ending (that the entire thing was a Cage movie) as canon.

  • @brokenpianotunes1923
    @brokenpianotunes1923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always thought that with the 4that game explained that the act of twisted metal has always been going on, but the first official tournament happened in the 90's

    • @____________838
      @____________838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But sadly the 3rd and 4th games are almost universally shit on after being released by a different studio than 1&2.

  • @zeeke73099
    @zeeke73099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    TM 4 takes me back. So many good nights spent trying to beat the game with everyone to see all the cut scenes. No memory card haha

  • @en4135
    @en4135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:30 if we believe this takes place in the "Real world" and that the Twisted Metal tournament takes place in the real world I'd have to assume the world would rush the hell out of Sweet Tooths execution.
    If all of that is true then Sweet Tooth is a world traveling serial killer that's probably very publicly killed hundreds if not thousands.

  • @SL-hq2ck
    @SL-hq2ck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Admirable effort, but Jaffe - write & creator of TM - himself said every game is, effectively, a restart. That there are developing themes and new additions to the characters, but it's not a continuous story with a clear canon. Again, though, this was a fun exercise in trying to bring it all together.

    • @TBP
      @TBP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Death of the author.

  • @kalmyk13
    @kalmyk13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why small brawl is another timeline? What about spectre's ending, when his father is revealed to be Spectre from Twisted Metal 2????

    • @TBP
      @TBP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've already said this, but I don't consider that Easter egg enough evidence in itself when everything else either doesn't line up, or is a counterexample to the possible connection.
      Mortal Kombat 9 featured Kratos, and even tied his tower mode into the God of War story. But that doesn't mean that it's canon to God of War.

  • @summersammich1324
    @summersammich1324 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dare you to take a shot every time he says the word canonically.

  • @darrenthetuber743
    @darrenthetuber743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So it's Mortal Kombat...with cars, calypso a multi dimensional being collecting souls, pretty much Sheng Soon

    • @TBP
      @TBP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Interesting, I'm a fan of Mortal Kombat as well, and I never even thought of that.

  • @possiblyhuman8345
    @possiblyhuman8345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm pretty sure Twisted metal small brawl is actually connected to TM4 as the kid hosting the tournament found Calypsos ring after the fall of Sweet Tooth's tower

    • @TBP
      @TBP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I covered that in my most recent video, but in short, Billy Calypso got the idea of Twisted Metal from watching demolition derby on tv, and also Billy Calypso didn't have a ring.

  • @DesertRainReads
    @DesertRainReads ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From a gameplay perspective, Twisted Metal PS3 is the best in the series, with Black and Head On being an extremely close second. I find the idea of Black being a prequel to the first game to be interesting and it could make sense from a canonical perspective too, like it could be established that Needles Kane had his breakdown and the stuff that occurred within his head happened in 2002, and then the events of the real world Twisted Metal took place three years after.
    Your breakdown of what happened in each game is downright fascinating and you did a pretty good job of establishing the time lines. I think 3 and 4 are indeed part of an alternate timeline while Head-on is the canonical sequel to 2.
    I'm shocked they didn't go further with the reboot. Again, from a gameplay perspective, it's the best of the series. Not to mention, that soundtrack is epic as hell. Anything that has "More Human Than Human" on it is a winner.
    They should've remastered it for PS4 with more character stories to play through, even more battle arenas and additional songs on the soundtrack. I'm shocked they didn't do so.

  • @tyceohollow
    @tyceohollow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reading the wiki article brought up at the end for Calypso it's weird seeing the origin of his moniker possibly being just the music I thought they chose the name originally due to it being similar to "apoCALYPSe" since the games are all kind of in apocalyptic/post apocalyptic/dystopic. Excellent video I'm so happy to see folks who care about the series after all these years I grew up with the games (born in '90) so it was sad to see them lose relevance much akin to my favorite game franchise; The Legacy of Kain. Keep up the great work!

    • @____________838
      @____________838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had always figured it was some odd connection to voodoo via the music’s origin, lol

    • @tyceohollow
      @tyceohollow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@____________838 ohhhh yeah that would make sense, great thought!

  • @SorakuFett
    @SorakuFett 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the case of TM Lost, every character's bios give wildly different amounts of time since their respective "win." Billy Ray's bio says 10, No-Face's says 8, Mr. Grimm's doesn't give a number but does say it has been multiple years and basically no time at all has passed for Agent Stone as he's caught in a time loop of constantly winning TM then dying in the past.

  • @goddamn92
    @goddamn92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The twisted metal 2 vomic book gives calypso a back story

  • @giantdad7556
    @giantdad7556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quick question - is there any way to play this game without whatever console it was made for ? It's not on steam, so my casual brain cannot piece together where to get it otherwise.

    • @Slop_Dogg
      @Slop_Dogg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately only Twisted Metal: Black is available on PS4 & PS5 via PSN download. Even the latest entry (Twisted Metal 2012) is only available on PS3. For the earlier unavailable games, emulation is your best bet.

  • @welmancreations
    @welmancreations 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the couple AEW wrestler name references.

  • @josh-777
    @josh-777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One way you can see it is the timeline splinter when a contestant die and converges at the end of the tournament so everyone is a winner and a loser and with you bring up Calypso as a multi dimensional being makes sense that way he can transfer contestants to other worlds where they died giving them a literal second chance and the new cast of characters is just there to replace the contestants he couldn't bring back because I'm guessing you can only transfer a soul so many times before some sort of problem arises or he got sick or bored of bringing that particular contestant back and the best part for Calypso is there any s an endless supply of nutjobs and psychos he can pull in to the twisted metal tournament so he isn't lacking in a participant pool

  • @stevendefeo8424
    @stevendefeo8424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These were the best games ever made. I played them all

  • @garrettkeithr
    @garrettkeithr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Videos! I think the reason that so many characters have arcs in Head On based on them winning TM2’s tournament is because you’re playing from that character’s perspective (meaning that if you played as Axel in Head On, then he also won TM2). Your points regarding Outlaw make a lot of sense though. Also, Charlie in 2012 could be a “Charlie Jr” with Needles/Marcus’s dad being “Charlie Sr” (that’s what I always assumed)

  • @jasonblundelldobebussing
    @jasonblundelldobebussing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, pretty cool and all.

  • @turismofoegaming8806
    @turismofoegaming8806 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video man I really enjoyed it!!
    I always love the twisted metal series and it was one of the very first games we got with the original PlayStation in 1995!!!