Franz Schmidt - Symphony No.3 in A-major (1928)

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    Franz Schmidt (22 December 1874 -- 11 February 1939) was an Austrian composer, cellist and pianist.
    Work: Symphony No.3 in A-major (1928) scored for flutes, oboes, clarinets, bassoons, 4 horns, 2 trumpets, 3 trombones, timpani and a large string section.
    Mov.I: Allegro molto moderato 00:00
    Mov.II: Adagio 16:00
    Mov.III: Scherzo: Allegro vivace - Molto più tranquillo 26:28
    Mov.IV: Lento - Allegro vivace 37:55
    Orchestra: Malmö Symphony Orchestra
    Conductor: Vassily Sinaisky
    A sunny, melodic work in the Schubert vein (although its lyricism and superb orchestration do much to conceal the fact that it is one of the composer's most harmonically advanced works). Winner of the Austrian section of the 1928 International Columbia Graphophone Competition, it enjoyed some popularity at the time.
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  • @luisdeorueta9748
    @luisdeorueta9748 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this symphony has a dreamy, reverie, ensueno, quality that makes it unique.

  • @thobisimoloi5438
    @thobisimoloi5438 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have run out of words for works of this dimensions, this is ' Terrific "absolute bliss

  • @rogerknox9147
    @rogerknox9147 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In the first movement I love the way the opening ascending theme keeps returning, a ray of light and hope in the surrounding chromatic and contrapuntal turmoil.

    • @sbareg
      @sbareg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should try Max Reger's Sinfonietta op.90. Same complexity, if somewhat more dense and heavy.

  • @Khayyam-vg9fw
    @Khayyam-vg9fw 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Absolute mastery of compositional technique. This is beyond good.

  • @MrHFMetz
    @MrHFMetz 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Mr. Sinaisky takes his time, which is crucial especially in the last movement; otherwise the delicate building up of this symphony would be frustrated.
    Excellent version of this sublime piece of music. Thanks for posting. Together with the recent upload of the 2nd it is a worthy tribute to this great but often misunderstood composer.

  • @TheOboeCrack
    @TheOboeCrack 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    what a surprinsing beginning to a symphony!

  • @PeterLunowPL
    @PeterLunowPL 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    the adagio is breathtakingly beautiful. Schmidt has a unique command of harmonies,I dont know many composers that
    have such a dinstinctly personal harmonic signature

    • @jackwilmoresongs
      @jackwilmoresongs 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Peter Lunow Roussel I think, on unique harmonic style.

    • @PeterLunowPL
      @PeterLunowPL 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree

    • @Khayyam-vg9fw
      @Khayyam-vg9fw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is perhaps the most original harmonist since Wagner. His command of the techniques of tonal composition (and some way beyond) is total. It will be some time before the musical world really catches up with Franz Schmidt and understands the sheer scale of his mastery.

    • @hectorbarrionuevo6034
      @hectorbarrionuevo6034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jackwilmoresongs Roussel is a great choice. I would add Delius, Bax, and Bliss, but these last two were born after Schmidt.

    • @user-uu4wg7is5w
      @user-uu4wg7is5w 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fantastic!

  • @basb0y
    @basb0y 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tears and tears and tears. When asked what's my favorite music, I find it so hard to choose, but this is together with Wetz third among the utmost top of my joy in music.

  • @billyjoedopesmoker
    @billyjoedopesmoker 9 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    to me, the adagio in this symphony by Maestro Schmidt is nearly equal to those of Bruckner and Mahler, and the adagio of his 4th symphony is equal to those beautiful movements by Bruckner and Mahler. and i like the other movements of symphonies by Schmidt more than i like the other movements of symphonies by Bruckner and Mahler. i guess i am a Franz Schmidt fan. muchas gracias y saludos desde Tokio.

    • @Khayyam-vg9fw
      @Khayyam-vg9fw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're right about the adagio of the Fourth Symphony. This adagio, however, unlike those of Bruckner or Mahler, is (like all the movements of the Third Symphony) in sonata form. It's very passionate (as well as very extreme in its chromatic harmony), but certainly not as emotionally intense as the adagios of the Fourth Symphony or the Second String Quartet. (Schmidt probably felt that in such a classically-modelled symphony some kind of emotional restraint had to be built into each movement.) In the Third Symphony we had four sonata-form movements; in the Fourth, four movements that constitute a single sonata-form structure.

    • @Spiraculumvitae
      @Spiraculumvitae 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are in tokyo. That's good how´s the life there? saludos

  • @paulefstathiou1819
    @paulefstathiou1819 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent Music , thankyou !

  • @ChrisBreemer
    @ChrisBreemer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Words fail to describe the greatness of this music. Schmidt is one of those (few) composers which every time I listen to their music I am convinced this is the most beautiful music in existence. The themes, the sincerity, the structure, the orchestration, the harmonic language, it's just all perfect. Where Bruckner leave me mostly indifferent (even bored, sometimes), schmidt keeps me on the edge of my seat. Definitely one of the greatest composers ever, and still so sadly underrated. Marvelous performance also, except that the closing chord of the first movement seems to be bitten off too abruptly. Thank you for this heartwarming upload.

    • @mikesaunders4775
      @mikesaunders4775 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Perhaps Schmidt will help you to learn to love Bruckner. Try Bruckner's Ninth Symphony first (!) and work backwards through the Seventh, Sixth, Fifth and Fourth. Then, take on the mighty Eighth!

    • @Khayyam-vg9fw
      @Khayyam-vg9fw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikesaunders4775 True. The Adagio from Schmidt's Second String Quartet in G major is Brucknerian (except in the harrowing B section), with running figuration similar to that in the adagios of Bruckner's 7th and 8th Symphonies, although the harmony, of course, is far more extreme. Schmidt will make a great deal more sense to you if you know at least the later Bruckner symphonies and the String Quintet.

  • @Khayyam-vg9fw
    @Khayyam-vg9fw 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Incidentally, when the uploader mentioned that Schmidt was also a cellist and pianist he forgot to mention that Mahler preferred Schmidt (whom he described as "the most musical man in Vienna") as cello soloist to the official principal in the Vienna Philharmonic/Opera and that Leopold Godowsky saw him as his only serious rival as a concert pianist. A towering genius.

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Godowsky wasn't even a concert pianist.

    • @mikesaunders4775
      @mikesaunders4775 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SpaghettiToaster You'll be telling us that Toscanini wasn't even a conductor next!

    • @vesteel
      @vesteel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SpaghettiToaster yeah Rachmaninoff wasn't a concert pianist. either. Like Godowsky, he is a composer!

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vesteel Rachmaninoff was both. He lived off of giving concerts for the longest time. Godowsky didn't.

    • @vesteel
      @vesteel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@SpaghettiToaster That's like saying Mahler was not a composer because he's a full time conductor and composing was just his hobby

  • @MattReads12
    @MattReads12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the Adagio movement, kind of bleak, but beautiful.

  • @MegaCirse
    @MegaCirse 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I do not really know because I have lost my head for some time! In any case, this magnificent music beyond all reason helps me to fall asleep peacefully. And it's happy because my invasive neuroses nibble my healthy thoughts !

    • @steveegallo3384
      @steveegallo3384 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I find that half a Halcion tablet helps me sleep. Failing that in your case, I'm there's nothing wrong with you that some Prozac and a polo-mallet won't cure

    • @steveegallo3384
      @steveegallo3384 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PETERJOHN101 -- Am glad for you: Your malaise is superficial, not chronic, and that's a good thing. Even so, it recalls "Troubled Sleep" "(La Mort dans l'Âme,") the exquisite novel by Jean-Paul Sartre....Sleep well, friend!

    • @mrturtle1128
      @mrturtle1128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i now understand what you mean, despite first time hearing it i find the harmonies eerie and unsettling, every time i feel stressed out, listening to this somehow became a quite useful stress relief. it just sort of relaxes your mind for some reasons.

  • @PeiyunPianist
    @PeiyunPianist 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This picture describes the piece perfectly

    • @steveegallo3384
      @steveegallo3384 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it does depict this at times darkly mysterious brilliant work, also like a Zdzisław Beksiński painting......

  • @jatriggs
    @jatriggs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is a great work (beautifully performed by Sinaisky). I find it hard to believe that it lost the main competition in 1928 to a relatively pedestrian piece by Kurt Atterberg.

    • @Khayyam-vg9fw
      @Khayyam-vg9fw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Schmidt was a victim of cultural politics, then and now.

    • @jatriggs
      @jatriggs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree. I like Robin Holloway's comment that Schmidt was the best "historically uninevitable composer since Bach". In any event, he's an old favorite of mine!

    • @Khayyam-vg9fw
      @Khayyam-vg9fw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Holloway was conferring an even bigger compliment that it at first appears to be. Schmidt deserves to be an old favourite of a lot of people who never got the chance to hear him. Many of them are now dead, alas!

    • @jatriggs
      @jatriggs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As I remember he may have used the word "greatest" (can't find the book at the moment;-). I've managed to convince my son of Schmidt's importance, so there is hope, perhaps, for the rising generation...

    • @darrylschultz9311
      @darrylschultz9311 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Roger Martin Yeah but Robin 'n Jeff said he was historically UNinevitable!

  • @hectorbarrionuevo6034
    @hectorbarrionuevo6034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Agree with the comments below on this work's substance and harmonic vocabulary. Schmidt studied with fine composer, Fuchs (b. in 1840); and, counterpoint with Bruckner (who studied with great composer-theorist Simon Sechter). Other great orchestral composers -who were contrapuntal wizards as well- would include Raff, Bruckner, Strauss, Mahler, Reger, and Schoenberg. For other greats that may have influenced Schmidt, one could mention Sibelius, Delius, Debussy, and Ravel.

    • @jatriggs
      @jatriggs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When I first heard of Schmidt (back in the early 70's), it was though a quip by someone at the BBC that he was rather like a combination of Brahms and Debussy. I immediately thought I've got to find some music by this fellow. It was hard to come by at the time, but fortunately there are a lot more recordings now.

  • @martenking9116
    @martenking9116 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    At the time this work was composed, Schoenberg was on the ascendancy, Bartok was in his middle-most unapproachable-period & tonal music such as Schmidt's was considered rather passe, sadly. As orchestras & conductors seek to broaden the scope of works in their repertoire, composers such as Schmidt will surely become more often performed & the concert-going public will begin to better appreciate the value of their music.

  • @neilsaunders9309
    @neilsaunders9309 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Music that is "better than it can be played".

  • @JAMESLEVEE
    @JAMESLEVEE 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That should be Vassily, not Vassilky, KD.

  • @fulviopolce9785
    @fulviopolce9785 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Questa sinfonia è stata composta 18 anni dopo la "gloriosa" seconda..Sono d'accordo con quanti commentano che ,a prescindere da una indubbia capacità di orchestrazione e costruzione armonica,si riconosce un po' di stanchezza strutturale.

  • @Khayyam-vg9fw
    @Khayyam-vg9fw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So far, one listener (and counting) has tin ears!

  • @antoniomartiradonna9498
    @antoniomartiradonna9498 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Egr.KuhlauDilfeng 2, nell' ascoltare questo compositore , dopo anni e anni di ascolto di Mahler e ( Bruckner, ) non si scopre niente di eccezionale ; nessuna novità. Richiede molto impegno nell'ascolto. E' uno di quei compositori che in quell'epoca, fine '800 inizi '900 erano in un limbo " musicale ". Indecisi se affrontare nuove strade o restare più pragmaticamente al sicuro nel proprio orticello. Cmq. ha la sua dignità. E' un mio modesto parere. Se lo avessi ascoltato in radio senza sapere il nome avrei detto subito : un imitatore di Mahler.

    • @lucaogliari2912
      @lucaogliari2912 ปีที่แล้ว

      ci sono più affinità tra Schmidt e Max Reger che tra Mahler e Schmidt. Entrambi usano le forme antiche e hanno come modello Bach.

  • @dario8220
    @dario8220 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    based

  • @55ENR
    @55ENR 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Schubert vein? Heinz Schubert vein?

    • @Khayyam-vg9fw
      @Khayyam-vg9fw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oskar Adler (Schmidt's Jewish friend and string quartet co-leader): 'One fact I have to state with all the emphasis at my disposal: Schmidt never was a Nazi. But politically he was quite extraordinarily naive.... Politically, he remained utterly naive. When I saw him for the last time, in order to take leave of him prior to my departure for London, he asked me: "Why are you leaving, for heaven's sake?" He knew nothing of the horrors, nothing of the atrocities, nothing of Theresienstadt, amongst whose victims was his viola player, Dr Strassberg, who was killed there....'

    • @Khayyam-vg9fw
      @Khayyam-vg9fw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's also worth remembering that Franz Schmidt's favourite pupil, the composer and pianist Walter Bricht, was Jewish, and Schmidt's own illegitimate son, Ludwig Zirner, was half Jewish. (Both emigrated to the United States.)

  • @peterhelbich3334
    @peterhelbich3334 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this is gods music........schmidt was not an atheist..........no great music was ever composed ba an atheist........facts and love from vienna austria ........where it all began haydn, mozart, beethoven, schubert etc.........

    • @MattReads12
      @MattReads12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree, this is really great music, but that can't be true that no create music was ever composed by an atheist:
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists_in_music

    • @ChrisBreemer
      @ChrisBreemer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's an interesting list, however it contains barely 20 classical composers, and only a handful of them are in the top league. Either that list is woefully incomplete, or most of the great composers weren't atheists. Of course that would not imply they were actually religious.

    • @fredericmartin2959
      @fredericmartin2959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is a ridiculous comment... Most of the classical music composers lived in times where nobody could present himself as an atheist.

    • @robertberger4203
      @robertberger4203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wagner was an atheist , and so were Berlioz and Richard Strauss . Brahms was an agnostic .

    • @peterhelbich3334
      @peterhelbich3334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertberger4203 proof it
      hitler was an american lololololol proof it