IN 15, 16 and 17, Miaskovsky shows his command of the 4 movement symphonic architecture as Beethoven conceptualized it, which simultaneously replete with exciting content, ideas and development, clearly a master!
@@bernabefernandeztouceda7188 agree. The techniques maybe the same, because all three of them are Soviet composers, however they are very different in terms of what they put into their music. Myaskovsky took a lot from Russian composers, while P and Sh were completely Soviet
@@SergioCánovasCM Silent Night 16:40 but it is a main theme. Litaniae Lauretanae: 18:49 Again a main theme. Perhaps indirect quotations, not knowing the origin of those melodies. Stalin bureaucracy didn't recognize them, anyway. Feliz navidad!
The music reminds me of the extreme endurance, sacrifice and force lf the Russian people through history, thus I decided to put that picture that represents this inspiration I had.
@@SergioCánovasCM , /The composer never revealed what he really wanted to express when writing this work, mainly because of the fear he felt for a dictatorial and repressive state, which he also tries to reflect in it./ What is it if not a propaganda? some wild fantasies about what the composer thought and was fear of. tell the name of at least one big soviet composer who was repressed? no one. while all of them were awarded by Stalin Prize and not once
You should get used to it, according to western propaganda, all Soviet artist, musician, writers and composers write anti Soviet messages in their art as if composers couldn't think of anything else besides politics
Oh, I think there's some truth to the anti-Soviet propaganda, but it's easily exagerrated. On the one hand, we do know that composers had to radically simplify their styles twice during the Stalin era (after the "Sumbur vmesto muzyki" article and during the so-called Zhdanovshchina), and while almost all composers and musicians survived the purges unscathed -- unlike some of the literati -- I imagine they weren't entirely sure they couldn't be next. That much said, Myaskovsky doesn't seem to have poured much autobiography into his music (unlike, say, Shostakovich), and the effect of Soviet music policy on his music wasn't entirely negative. For every radically oversimplified work of his (say, his Twenty-Sixth Symphony) there are works like the present one and the Twenty-Seventh, in which he curbed his tendency toward prolixity and impressionist harmonic sludge to produce really gripping form and content.
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I can't get over how he handled all those beautiful themes, a masterpiece of counterpoint.
Well said...he is a master of contrapunctual, like Glazunov.
Another impressive symphonic work by this prolific composer.
Terrific work. Can't believe these works are not more widely known. Just terrific listening
IN 15, 16 and 17, Miaskovsky shows his command of the 4 movement symphonic architecture as Beethoven conceptualized it, which simultaneously replete with exciting content, ideas and development, clearly a master!
16 is weak to me - except for the last movement. The other two are flat-out great - especially 15.
@@SelectCircle You're entitled to your personal taste, but I find that the 1st mvt of # 16 to have a Beethoven command of symphonic sonata-form
My personal favorite of all his symphonies. #10 is my second favorite
The second movement is one of the most beautiful moments in orchestral music I've heard, it sounds like something from Mahler
You are SO right.That slow movement is very moving.
Second movement is one of my favorites ^^
Here for that moment at 20:55
I like 2nd movement
Me too ^^
Que inspiración más profunda
breathtakingly
To me, at least six of his twenty-seven symphonies are really really good!
Which ones?
I suppose 6 and 21 among them? :)
@@RomanCoop how about 5?
A deep symphony.
Pretty good!
I like this because parts of it sound like Shostakovich.
It doesn't sound like Shostakovich at all. Prokofiev, if anything...
@@bernabefernandeztouceda7188 agree. The techniques maybe the same, because all three of them are Soviet composers, however they are very different in terms of what they put into their music. Myaskovsky took a lot from Russian composers, while P and Sh were completely Soviet
Silent Night and Letaniae Lauretanae in the second movement?
You mean folksongs? If so, could you indicate the time in which they appear?
@@SergioCánovasCM Silent Night 16:40 but it is a main theme.
Litaniae Lauretanae: 18:49 Again a main theme. Perhaps indirect quotations, not knowing the origin of those melodies. Stalin bureaucracy didn't recognize them, anyway. Feliz navidad!
What is the painting?
The title of the painting is "In Russia. Soul of the people" by the Russian painter Mikhail Nesterov.
@@SergioCánovasCM Thank you very much!
I don’t think it relates to the music. Myaskovsky was more about the nature then about power or religion or even people
The music reminds me of the extreme endurance, sacrifice and force lf the Russian people through history, thus I decided to put that picture that represents this inspiration I had.
what a piece of anti-soviet propaganda is in the description...
I would like to know which parts or events described and cited in the description of the video didn't happen
@@SergioCánovasCM , /The composer never revealed what he really wanted to express when writing this work, mainly because of the fear he felt for a dictatorial and repressive state, which he also tries to reflect in it./
What is it if not a propaganda? some wild fantasies about what the composer thought and was fear of. tell the name of at least one big soviet composer who was repressed? no one. while all of them were awarded by Stalin Prize and not once
@@SergioCánovasCM , I made the video "top 30 Russian composers". maybe you will find there something interesting for you
You should get used to it, according to western propaganda, all Soviet artist, musician, writers and composers write anti Soviet messages in their art as if composers couldn't think of anything else besides politics
Oh, I think there's some truth to the anti-Soviet propaganda, but it's easily exagerrated. On the one hand, we do know that composers had to radically simplify their styles twice during the Stalin era (after the "Sumbur vmesto muzyki" article and during the so-called Zhdanovshchina), and while almost all composers and musicians survived the purges unscathed -- unlike some of the literati -- I imagine they weren't entirely sure they couldn't be next. That much said, Myaskovsky doesn't seem to have poured much autobiography into his music (unlike, say, Shostakovich), and the effect of Soviet music policy on his music wasn't entirely negative. For every radically oversimplified work of his (say, his Twenty-Sixth Symphony) there are works like the present one and the Twenty-Seventh, in which he curbed his tendency toward prolixity and impressionist harmonic sludge to produce really gripping form and content.