Here in the sim you can clearly see the blue taxiway edge lights. I am not sure how clear it was in reality. If they had RAAS it would have shouted at them: "Caution on taxiway!!!".
The simulation quality on this channel is first rate especially in night operations. The shimmering of the background lights in the exhaust heat is so realistic. Do I blame these pilots? I guess. It is their responsibility to be hypervigilant at night with thousands of lights denoting all sorts of things but taxiways and runways are so complex at the large airports. I don't know if this three decade old plane had the runway identifier and runway annunciation system on it. If it did, I blame them a bit more!
The crew saw exactly what they were expecting to see, it’s a very powerful phenomenon that’s hard to train for. Luckily they got away with it, could have been disastrous.
Saudia Cargo Flight 953 CVR Transcript 2:11 TOWER: Saudia 953‚ continue taxiing via Golf. and turn via Victor for runway 33R. 2:20 SV953: Taxiing on Golf and turn on Victor for runway 33R. Saudia 953 4:39 TOWER: Saudia 953‚ wind is calm‚ cleared for takeoff runway 33R. 4:46 SV953: Cleared for takeoff runway 33R. Saudia 953. 5:20 PILOT:80 KNOTS. 5:31 PILOT: Abort!
Surely painting 2 big K’s at the start of the taxiway, seeing that this has happened before could have prevented the pilots from making this mistake. And a big 33 at the start of the runway.
Absolutely. Also, isn't there a way for the control tower to have a spotter who could visually check and verify that the plane was lined up on the correct frickin' runway rather than on a taxiway? Why do they call it a "control" tower anyway?? Just implementing a few additional (and simple) safety checks could *easily* prevent these kind of woopsies from ever happening again. Sheesh.
I am not a pilot, and arguably have "no business 'judging' "; but were the blue taxiway lights not blue that night? .. just hard to imagine when I also thought the 747 required an Flight Engineer, as well ???? just very confusing/disappointing
Couldnt there be some dirt of sensor that tells ATC and the pilots if there on a taxiway and not a runway something thst when a plsne goes over the area it says taxiway tgen they eould have knoen or lut up signs simplay displaying taxiway oscar 5 for example
This was 2024 in a clear night, right? Where is the GPS? Plane is too old, doesn’t have it? Why pilots didn’t check visually the runway numbers? Displaced threshold? Why didn’t use ILS to check alignment with Center line? No ILS? Why never notice visually the lights, they should be different between taxiways and runways! Big airport right, no ground radar to pickup the mistake? So many misses to align the holes in the Swiss cheese model.
"See? Anybody could make that mistake."
- Harrison Ford
🤣 Taking off from taxiways is one thing. Landing on them like Ford did is another 😅
At least it wasn’t a golf course 😂
If life were like the movies...
Always great to watch MPC's videos!!!
Here in the sim you can clearly see the blue taxiway edge lights. I am not sure how clear it was in reality. If they had RAAS it would have shouted at them: "Caution on taxiway!!!".
Perfectly clear.
The same happened twice at Schiphol Amsterdam airport where some runways have two taxiways.
Which incidents?
A KLM Boeing 747 took off from a taxiway.
A Transavia Boeing 737 was warned by the tower and stopped.
Bad situation when pilots are "unaware" of anything!
The simulation quality on this channel is first rate especially in night operations. The shimmering of the background lights in the exhaust heat is so realistic. Do I blame these pilots? I guess. It is their responsibility to be hypervigilant at night with thousands of lights denoting all sorts of things but taxiways and runways are so complex at the large airports. I don't know if this three decade old plane had the runway identifier and runway annunciation system on it. If it did, I blame them a bit more!
The crew saw exactly what they were expecting to see, it’s a very powerful phenomenon that’s hard to train for. Luckily they got away with it, could have been disastrous.
Conformation bias?
What kind of pilots doesn’t know that lights on all taxiways are BLUE and all runways lights are green?
Runway lights are white!!! Taxiway center line lighting is green.
obviously the ones NOT on YT.
@@skyboy1956 😂😅😂
I guess no ground radar? How did the tower authorize takeoff?
When they opened the new airport in Jeddah a 737 took off from the taxiway.
Saudia Cargo Flight 953 CVR Transcript
2:11 TOWER: Saudia 953‚ continue taxiing via Golf. and turn via Victor for runway 33R.
2:20 SV953: Taxiing on Golf and turn on Victor for runway 33R. Saudia 953
4:39 TOWER: Saudia 953‚ wind is calm‚ cleared for takeoff runway 33R.
4:46 SV953: Cleared for takeoff runway 33R. Saudia 953.
5:20 PILOT:80 KNOTS.
5:31 PILOT: Abort!
Surely painting 2 big K’s at the start of the taxiway, seeing that this has happened before could have prevented the pilots from making this mistake. And a big 33 at the start of the runway.
Absolutely. Also, isn't there a way for the control tower to have a spotter who could visually check and verify that the plane was lined up on the correct frickin' runway rather than on a taxiway? Why do they call it a "control" tower anyway?? Just implementing a few additional (and simple) safety checks could *easily* prevent these kind of woopsies from ever happening again. Sheesh.
I'm on the point of writing the ALPA approved international bestseller: TAXIWAYS FOR DUMMIES. I'll let you know when my book tour comes to your town.
Taxiways and runways look too similar.
I am not a pilot, and arguably have "no business 'judging' "; but were the blue taxiway lights not blue that night? .. just hard to imagine when I also thought the 747 required an Flight Engineer, as well ???? just very confusing/disappointing
Newer 747's d NOT require a flight engineer, only the old ones !!! One of the improvements n newer models !! !
Holy shish-kebab
LOL! I must remember this one.
Good vid. Run your Checklists, do the procedures.
Couldnt there be some dirt of sensor that tells ATC and the pilots if there on a taxiway and not a runway something thst when a plsne goes over the area it says taxiway tgen they eould have knoen or lut up signs simplay displaying taxiway oscar 5 for example
What a hot mess , he is certified ?
Muted
Never fly a third world airline. I have Trained Flight crews from these countries and they don’t get it
But Saudia aren't third world......
Air Atlanta use Icelandic and European flight crew
Please delete this comment, it's highly discriminatory.
Its experience.
you train them so maybe you don't get it
Don't 747's have 3 pilots?
Only on long flights
Drug testing no good?
Doh!
This was 2024 in a clear night, right? Where is the GPS? Plane is too old, doesn’t have it? Why pilots didn’t check visually the runway numbers? Displaced threshold? Why didn’t use ILS to check alignment with Center line? No ILS? Why never notice visually the lights, they should be different between taxiways and runways! Big airport right, no ground radar to pickup the mistake? So many misses to align the holes in the Swiss cheese model.
sounds like a pi$$ poor airport design and lack of adequet marling ???
lick of edequat sperling
What kind of marling do you recommend??
Middle East.. No surprises