Lufthansa Boeing 747-8i's Dramatic Touch and Go at LAX | Airline Videos Live Capture
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- ✈️ Don't miss the dramatic moment as a Lufthansa Boeing 747-8i performs a touch and go in front of Airline Videos Live cameras at LAX on Tuesday, April 23rd, 2024.
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Touch & Go?
That was a Hit & Run!
Perfect assessment.
Best comment ever and very apt.
Ouch 😂
Holy Moly
Best comment!
Can we just take a moment of respect for the technology in those tyres and the landing gear??? Not to mention the guys and gals that design and build that stuff. Man! Just awesome.
Also the ATC person. Obviously an airport with heavy traffic. She stayed cool and just continued to give him altitudes and other traffic in the area. And, I'm sure she wasn't but she sounded like she was 17 years old. I have the hardest time understanding what they're saying. Presumably because I don't know the jargon which helps. Her vocal fry did nothing to make it more clear however. 😜
The gear is built for such abuse. Main gear is Made from solid forged billets.
@@dod2304 it was actually the pilot who was 17 ;-)
one single gear can support the entire weight of the 747, search koeran air in Hong Kong Kai Tak
99.9 % men involved ☝🏿🧐
I don't know what's more impressive, the durability of the landing gear or the sheer power of those engines
It was very impressive!
Usually they land at the same speed as they take off and only lowers their speed after buttering their land ...so it's their landing gear which i think should be more appreciated...
You are literally a bot
I would Not have retracted the gear during the go-around. Those tires were smokin hot and could possibly have caught fire. You do no want a tire or brake fire in the wheel compartment
Both !!!
This Queen was just Jumping for Joy that you were filming her!!😇
I was on that plane. 11 hours traveling then ended with that and another 20 mins to try again. Glad to be home safe❤
Wow! I am so glad the second time was better. Can you describe the reactions and feelings inside the plane upon those bounces?!?!?
@@daniellejohnson199 lots of people screamed when it hit cause it was super hard, then when it bounced up everyone kinda started laughing but lots of babies were crying and I believe the laughing was for the children so they thought it was fun instead of scary. Everyone really wanted to get off once we landed, but it’s always kinda like that.
Glad you are safe. What did the pilot say to the passengers?
Alhamdulillah. ❤ Everyone safe landing finally. Alhamdulillah.
@j44hanna1 ....thank you for the first-hand perspective! Just WoW!!! I can see why everyone was VERY anxious to deplane!!!
The landing gear on these jets is amazing to be able to take that kind of hit and hold up.
yes during certification they do 3 landings, panic stop immediate take off fully loaded, no thrust reversers, no flaring on landing so 10 ft per sec vertical descent. This was the test back in 1969 flight test program 747
Amazing 👍
Truly, as is the airframe to which it’s attached. The whole airplane has to take that shock.
Yer just what I thought folded away like nothing had happened! 😮
My dad always was amazed how the tires never blew out on touchdown.
Watched it live. Rough landing on the first attempt, but that was the absolute correct choice to go around after rather than force it. The sort of decision making you want from a well trained pilot. The second attempt was nothing, but butter. It happens to all pilots
The raw power screams from those engines is just beautiful
That wasn't the engines you could hear screaming, that was the passengers screaming out loud from both ends😂😂
Oh be quiet lol.
Pilot up front, panic in the rear.
The best part of the video is hearing those engines roar as the pilot pulls back up!
That wasn't the 747 that was the jet blue lining up 24R. You can hear the engines spool back down.
I'll never need to be reminded to fasten my seatbelt and put my tray up again.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you😊
I'll never need to be reminded never to fly again, after watching several of these videos🤣
When I was younger, I used to act cool and have the seat belt loose (stupid youth). Now, I always wrap it tight and make sure it's fastened well.
It's rare having mid-air emergencies (other than turbulence). It's always the takeoffs and landings.
@@HKim0072 Ironic, the landing is when most passengers emit a sigh of relief, including myself, but in fact it's one of the most dangerous phases of the whole voyage
Amazing strength on the landing gears. The queen never disappoints.
The queen is lucky parts are not falling off. Boeing aka flying coffin
@@RoyceVera ? Maybe sometimes you can blame the maintenance and if it would have been dangerous FAA would simply have banned Boeing
Nope she does not. She is the queen!!!!
@@RoyceVera 747 was made when they cared lol
@@RoyceVera This is part of the problem to be honest, I can't stand comments like this. Since when has the Queen ever had a bad name?
The pilots did a great job just staying calm and doing what they do best!
Doing what they do best? Try learning to land an airplane first and then they wouldn't have to say "what they do best" is recovering from a dangerously botched landing...
@@stevenwilliams1915 Are you a pilot and could you land that plane perfectly? Maybe there were unforeseen circumstances or conditions that caused an issue. I wouldn’t complain about anyone driving one of those big things and landing me safely on the ground and he did. The fact that he was able to abort the first landing attempt and take off again was pretty impressive imo.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a 747-400 Captain, I just want to say heavy winds and rain are the nightmare of every Pilot, especially when landing
My uncle was a pilot. You are a special breed to do that as a career. The abort on this was amazing to watch. Nice to know there are talented Pilots out there that can do this. Just wow!!!
I was caught in an eye off a storm on a light plane.
It was the scariest, thunder, wind, lightning hitting our plane and putting heavy rain. Man the pilot was so skilled.
I prayed the whole way and God helped us.
the weight and rain don’t help with the landing. I’m not afraid flaying but sometimes it may be scaring with the landing in big planes. I pray 🙏🏻
Duh!
"Rain" ??? Perfectly blue sky...
That honestly has to be the hardest landing I've ever seen. I can't even imagine what the passengers felt. Props to the pilot for his quick decision. Epic capture Kevin!
why was that the right decision? was it going to keep jumping on the runway?
To recalibrate your scale, look up DC9 hard landing. The amazing thing with that one is that they repaired the damage and that plane went on to fly for another 14 years.
@@celderian thnx :)
@IvoXr Because a bounce with a pitch down of the nose afterwards can lead to disaster. Go and look at the fedex crash in Japan a decade or so ago. Similar situation. Bounced, nosed in and broke apart.
It hurt. Badly then total panic attack when we went back in the air.
I felt that on my couch watching LIVE. It was, and is still compelling to see hours later. I feel for those passengers.
they feel for your couch. i wonder how many hours they flew for. 11 hours really hurts in my experience. lol
I'm impressed people watch this live. Is it relaxing?
@@calpurniabruchi5742 Totally, better than watching golf on TV, lol
Oopsies
@@calpurniabruchi5742 Go to any airport. If there are places to pull a car up just outside the perimeter, usually a fence. People will park there just to watch the planes take off and land.
Still The Most Beautiful Large Plane Ever Built!!
That "touch-and-go" was a borderline bang-and-scrape!
I was on that plane seated in 2A. It was my 1504th flight and definitely the roughest landing I’ve ever experienced. For a second I thought it’s over.
Wow, glad you made it! I have so many questions! What did the pilot say!? Did everyone think he was a bad pilot, or were they understanding?
Du meine Güte! 😱😱😱
Omg , glad everything was ok
I had worse landings, but that was 25 years ago in flight school! 🙈
Probably wind shear or something
747 is such a beauty, amazing to watch every time.
They really are! Amazing technology and air bird! Deserves the best care, construction and diligent upkeep! It's a travesty that planes were poorly outfitted and repaired!
They are indeed! I flew on one to Hawaii back in '83. Giant, graceful monsters!! Saw my friend's cheeks get pushed back during the takeoff G force. Then you feel the slow butterflies in your tummy during the deceiving feeling of it's weight bringing you back down again as it first ascends in the air. Was almost best part of the vacation!
Boeing couldn't build something like that today
@@HawkqOjOp I think you just described the part of take off that makes me uncomfortable - when you stop feeling the g forces of take off and it makes it feel (to me) like the plane is descending instead of ascending
Retired UPS pilot here....I've been there done that before... flared too late right there....I fire wall the throttles went around and landed safely 👍🏿anyone notice the ground spoilers on the first touchdown they was like retract deploy retract deploy??
No cool points lost!
Mather?
maybe the first try was pilot in training 🤔
Yup, this was a common problem with the MD11 mainly due to the construction of the elongated nose over that landing gear. You might remember the FedEx MD11 bounces?
Just wondering. I didn’t hear anything. Possible wind shear you think? I saw the late flare, but wasn’t sure if it’s because of a loss of lift.
I experienced something like this 20 years ago on...ironically enough, a Lufthansa 747-400 landing in Frankfurt. We hit the ground so hard everyone's head whipped forward...alot of gasps and a few "wow's. It felt like we bounced too. Pilot slammed the brakes hard after...we all lurched forward. Came to a safe roll. As we got off the runway all the captain said was "Youve probably had softer landings with us before....thank you..."
We all kinda cracked up. My dad (American) looks at my mom (German) and says..."thats Germans tho.."😂
Look who talking !? :D 🤣
I have experienced something very very similar to this in 2012, also in Frankfurt on a Lufthansa, flew from Brussel. Our plane didn't actually touch the ground but it was probably less than 15 ft from wheels to the runway. All of a sudden the plane accelerated from landing speed to take off speed right when everyone thought the plane was about to touch down. It was so unexpected and honestly pretty scary to most of the passengers by how sudden that happened. No announcement prior or after the relaunch either. Me and the stranger lady next to me ended up holding hands really tight (we didn't have a single conversation or exchange during the whole flight up until then), lol.
@@blipblip thats adorable. 😂💕Glad you were able to land safe eventually !
I lost count of how many times I rewound this. Holy Moly indeed! WOW!!
Me to, thought he going crash
I did the same thing..
Wonder if they had to get gear inspected after 2 full compressions.
Same here!
That was crazy but I am so glad that everyone eventually landed safely!!!!
I have been on two flights in my life that touched down hard and had to go back up…..definitely scary especially to those of us that don’t love to fly!!!! But it just reminds me that I have been at the hands of skilled pilots who stay steady and unshaken by these challenges. Shout out to all the amazing pilots out there!!!!!!
I have been on one, and it was also Lufthansa :) Smaller plane though, Frankfurt to Bologna
A few extra minutes on a plane like that, totally worth it.😍
I was part of the delegation that picked up this bird from the factory some years ago. Nice to see it flying. I even shook Joe Sutter‘s Hand and received an autograph. A special moment in my life.
Imagine the amount of thrust it took to get that baby roaring back up!!!
Not terrible.. She was light already from the long trip and minimal fuel. The 747 has a TON of power as well. Approach speed of 145-150kts means it would have plenty of speed going into the go-around as well.
@@COSpecV420 👍👍
I'm guessing all of it
@@dowen1105I mean, that's kinda what TOGA is...
My thoughts exactly.
I think everyone who saw this when it first happened, their jaw dropped. That was a crazy bounce.
Thanks for allowing VAS Aviation to use your footage of this landing! Very awesome seeing the radar and audio along with your video!
Glad to see a 747 still in service
Maybe not after that landing
There is Korean Air 747 in service to idk were tho exactly
@@TitanMD-11Man Seoul-Atl I think
@@nicevibe-zd9fj ya its that flight thanks
There are about 400 of them still in service 🤷🏻♂️
I love this plane it's the best plane in the sky. 747 800.
B747-8, not B747-800
The Queen of the skis! There is no bird like her! The 747 is amazing to watch on takeoff and landing!!!
That's not a hard landing, it's a high-speed landing
747 is my favorite!!!
Thank God everything went fine😢😢
A380 is the best 👌
A380, the King of the Air
The true champ here besides the Captain is the seemingly indestructible landing gear!
And tires!
They sure made Boeings better back then!
@@WesMordine They are still made well. You and everyone else have gotten too caught up in all the media hype.
The Captain??? He caused that mess!
Not indestructible. God's grace
Hard hitting but quick thinking pilot! Never seen Lufty make that kind of arrival on AVL ever! I felt that! Imagine those passengers! Amazing capture Kevin!
Stop with the pilot hero crap. He is the one who screwed it up in the 1st place!
@@renscience Regardless, disaster averted! That is what matters.
German engineering for you.
@@cherylreichardt its just a pilot screwed up a landing, go around and comeback for another attempt.
Nothing was averted. Just a typical day at work… if you overlook the screwed up.
@@murmursoftheachingheart3259 uh, it's an American plane bruh. Boeing 747
Best looking plane ever made.
Love the sound of those engines spooling back up. Long live The Queen!
Captain said “ok my turn”
fs200 no ,computer said "step aside guys"
First officer said - you should retire
Captain said, "lads, I have got my certification next week, and I haven't landed a plane since COVID". "I think I'll take this one, as conditions look so benign".
First Officer; "oh! Feck"!
One of the most majestic and beautiful aircraft! I had an opportunity to fly in one of these LH flights 2 months ago. Love it!
Im a Flight Attendant on the 747 this plane can handle a lot more than anyone knows no need to worry :)
Too many dramatic people in comments! They have no idea this wasn’t even a big deal. Landings like this happen commonly it’s just that this one was caught on video. These planes are over engineered to be able to take a beating.
Exactly :)
@@deuce9star I've had bought landings before. But, never that looked THIS rough. ie never so rough the nose started to pitch and it was decided to take off again and circle round. That was an extremely heavy and jarring landing. I'm not a nervous flier, but that would've freaked me out just a bit. I'm sure they said something reassuring to the passengers.
That’s cool, which airline?
@@dod2304what?? Bought landing? What is that?
the second landing was FANTASTIC 🥰
Yeah the 1st officer took over.
Experience is a great teacher!😂
Those inner flaps were taking a beating. Wow
That nose gear was taking the real beating- not good at all.
thats what she said hahaha
Now bout the inner right engine... she def scraped the deck
Somehow, for the first time, I got your live broadcast earlier today in my suggested videos feed. A 747 was on final and I figured I'd watch the majestic 747 gracefully land. Sheesh. Thank you for reposting it.
Savage ... in decisively bringing that big building with wings up then a solid 2nd landing ! I've always loved the 747and the 747 was my first commercial flight. Dear Airlines; please bring back the 747. Best passenger plane EVER !
👍👍👍I totally agree!
Boeing dismantled the 747 production line. End of an era.
Always fascinated by these. Human brain doing split second decision making.
This was insane watching this live! Wow!
Loved flying Lufthansa. Loved 747 when I traveled.
Lufthansa isn't even a 5 star airline
@@RIZFERD So? I love flying with them.
It’s the first time I see a b747 fuselage literally flex!! Look closely on the 2nd bump!
1.4 million views in just four days. Amazing.
Very comforting for me, knowing I'll be on a 747 from FRA to EWR this Saturday.
They're built like tanks. Queen of the skies right there!
Don't think that was the planes error.
I always ask at the gate what type of plane we are flying on.😊HINT*
@@Dennis867. Sophomoric, given you should be asking for the accrued flight hours of the pilots. HINT*
How often do you think something like this happens on Lufthansa's approximately 1 million flights a year? Probably only once, and that was a chain of unfortunate circumstances with downdrafts that suddenly pushed the aircraft down, something like that can happen.
Kevin has the best reaction like BIGJETTV! Kudos for Kev! And absolute madness on the 747 approach!
He SOUNDS just like the Cart Narcs guy😂
Kevin really wanted to say the s-word after "holy...." but kept that urge under control better than the landing flare of the aircraft
You guys are right there to see it happen , thanks for your dedication to the love of LAX !!!
Wow, I love engineers and what figure out they can achieve. This is the material´s resistance cutting edge. The team also is brilliant. All in all man & machine are a good duet.
Incredible
I’ve watched it several times already…DANG! He smacked the runway and bounced. Unreal!
Normal go-around
A few weeks earlier and Kevin could have said "Hippity hoppity, Easter's on its way."
You realize how heavy a "heavy 747 is?" and that baby bounced.......
Last of the 747's!! End of an era.
Nothing like the 747. Truly magnificent and well built to withstand almost anything. Was on a Vancouver - London-Frankfurt night flight in 1975 and the pilot flew into an electric cloud over the Atlantic Ocean which affected the plane and caused an engine to shutdown but it was able to limp into London Heathrow and couldn't continue to Frankfurt. The pilots exhibited a lot of calm and professionalism then and now. Pity Boeing decided to retire the Queen of the Skies
"Pity Boeing decided to retire the Queen of the Skies" ironically the one plane Boeing built that wouldn`t fall apart......
This hard landing of this B747-8 was coming in some German news as well. I've watched this hard landing approach at your stream too. You make with distance the best live stream at an Airport. Really.
The pilot has difficulties the first time to control the plane at approach. Due to downfall wind, ie sudden unexpected wind from the back, the plane drops on the runway and cannot be controlled. So a instant GO is the solution. This pilot has earned pilot’s license.
He had a late flare
He also had too low power setting before the flare
I disagree with your assessment and explanation. Listen to the controller as she reports the actual surface winds.
Winds 240 at 11. A typical day at LAX has winds fairly steady from the west, generally.
N a c172 I had sudden tailwind and full elevator deflection didn’t stop descent, still slammed the plane down. Would hate to experience that in 747.
@@jonasbaine3538 If you watch the video several times, you can see the body of the plane wobble up and down near the bubble. Jaun Browne says most often this often results in a major failure in the body structure. Focus on the Internet antenna on the top, you can see it wobble big time at least twice. The second bounce was much worse than the first.
That's going to leave a mark
That was absolutely EPIC!! Mindblowing 😮
the body of the plane and the wings flexed. BAM. Somebody spilled their drink.
German TV Station RTL showed this pictures in the evening news 6:45pm local time ... this is AVL International ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
wow...now THAT was jaw dropping!!! Kevin, awesome job on camera..you kept with it! (For those who don't know, Kevin is an Emmy award winning cameraman.. He takes planespotting channels to a whole new level!) So glad Queen Lufty and her passengers arrived safely after the crazy touch and go!
For all you Microsoft flight simulator pilots, do not make fun of a Pilot in this situation. You wouldn’t do this better and the pilot is doing his best in real life.
Take no notice of the Roblox kids, they have no say.
No it was truly amazing how the pilot seamlessly transitioned to taking back off. A testament to the crews skill. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Absolutely spot on 👍
Beast of a plane! Beautiful!❤
Privileged to have flown on the Queen of the Skies the mighty 747s ♥️♥️♥️
Holy mother of bounce! That was something Kevin. Great job man
Spyderco Nirvana and Gayle Bradley1&2 are my favorite,,,, you?
as a German i can say i always feel safe when i am flying with Lufthansa
Amen.
Fortunately the landing gear of these beasts is robust and strong enough to withstand a strong impact like that, excellent work by the pilot in getting airborne again and avoiding a worse incident.
Pilot did the right thing, congratz for keeping everyone safe. When in doubt just go round! - airline capt'n
Love Kevin's reaction. That was unbelievable. How the gear didn't collapse is beyond me
German engineered gear
Designed in the 60s
747 MLG is amazing. Ând the aircraft was rather light after 11 hrs of flight.
Love 747s. That's the difference between butter frozen and that at room temperature smooth or rough. 😂 And that's why you wear a seat belt!! Thanks guys, great footage!
Such a queen! Knows when to bounce and do over 😊
That was scary watching it live. Can't imagine how all the passengers felt! Glad they made a BUTTER landing on their second attempt. Glad you caught it on film.
Definitely was scary the first time
@@lewisbale1 Free replacement underwear was handed out on exit 😂😂
@@gigabyte2573 "Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin our inflight diaper service."
Sweet Hay-zeus...actual jaw-dropping moment.
scrambled egg in da HOUSE! loll that is so funny i said the exact same thing.. "jaw dropping " lollllll
That “1500” sticker on the back of that 747 represents the number of times I’ve watched this video (and ironically the amount of times Kevin said “Holy Moly”)
Great Plane & DESIGN , the VENERABLE Boeing 747 will forever be Missed
Oooouch!😮 Happy she landed smoothly and safely❤
Thanks! Awesome job!
One of the last Boeing's great.
Saw it here first. THANK YOU for allowing Victor to use it as well. You rock!
This has made the USA Today, and national news. Kevin has been given national recognition for that landing during Tuesday's Live Stream.
why did that make national news?
For a bad landing?
@@CivilStigBecause the footage was so dramatic.
@@kimberlywoodbury1739 so 'national news' is just sensation that doesn't need actual news-value? nice.
It’s even used in German television, saw it at the news a day after 😅
Absolute respect to the pilot and crew.
Wow I've never seen a video like this before. ........Im speechless 😮
Am I the only one who rewinded this several times!!??🤔
That first attempt looked like a late flare which caused the mains to make contact hard. On their second attempt the flare was made much earlier, then held as the mains touched down. Difficult to master on a small single engine plane. Commercial pilots who do this daily are just absolutely amazing. 747 forever!!!
Unfortunately commercial pilots, especially long haul pilots, don't do the actual landings often enough these days. Pilots everywhere are complaining about losing their actual flying skills. Even Captain Sully mentioned this after his landing on the Hudson.
@@Watchamacallit000 You don't know what you're talking about. It is rare for pilots to use autoland
You can tell there was something wrong on that first attempt
@@waholoopesorry74 I think he means that if you do 1.5-3 hour flights, you take off and land often. If you do 8 hour flights, you take off and land less often and you're on autopilot most of the time. A taxi driver has his skillset in use all the time, much more than someone who puts his car on cruise control and drives from Miami to Maryland...
@@hugolafhugolaf Well Sully was a domestic pilot so I don’t think that’s actually what he meant
I've seen a lot of Lufthansa landings, but never have I seen this!
It's not espacially a Lufthansa-Thing. The reason could be tail-wind or downfall wind.
Sooner or later... this could be happen to ANY company.
@@Gringomania So as in a head wind that quit ,or turned around?
@@Gringomania the conditions were Winds 240 at 11 knots.
I not, too.
Well done Boeing, she’s a tough girl!
Every landing is unique. When in doubt, go around. Great footage of real-world flying. Thanks!
This was a truly unbelievable moment! Glad I caught it live!
That's why I love Aviation! Congratulations to the professional pilots,I got goosebumps Amazing❤✈️
When I was stationed in Lahr Germany (West Germany back then), in the 80's Lufthansa would come and use our airfield to practice touch and go's as well as missed approaches. It was amazing to see 747's being flown like that. After watching this a few times I always felt safe on a Lufthansa flights.😁👍
Who else likes airplane noise?
Had the privilege, if you can call it that, to see this happen live during yesterday's broadcast. Kevin, you did an awesome job on this capture. You, my sir, are the king of airline videos!!!
The live chat must have been going crazy
@@Sparks_Alive lol - literally off the runway just like that airplane!
No airplane will replace the ❤Queen❤
I agree! Those big 380’s are bigger but the 747 is without competition for being the most beautiful aircraft ever to fly! Queen of the sky! ❤️😎👍
@@karenweaver134 Who would have guessed it with that weird hump, but it works, truly majestic machines. They look intelligent, like Beluga whales with oversized brains
@@karenweaver134 Nah the A380 looks like an absolute goddes of the sky when they do that slow speed flyover its crazy how the biggest passenger plane in the world can fly that slow without falling out of the sky its truly mesmeraizing safety tech on that one 😍
You got that right I retired from U.P.S. flying the 747 for 30 years👍🏿
Wow,that was some touch and go.And after great landing what a great pilot like butter
this airplane made Boeing great. back then Boeing was still an engineering company. well, the dear money. thanks for the video.
Woah, woah, woah, woah, Lufthansa Queen bounced very hard, and then taking off again for going around, oh my gosh, I never seen like that in my life, what in the world! ✈️
It looked a warthog that had just landed in a pride of lions 😲😲😲
That was the scariest thing ever seen
Good to see Boeing still can at least build landing gear well wow
Gear built by someone else they just bolt it on. Boeing is the airframe
The plane is a decade old, apparently they have made landing gear for some time. Wow
Max has been the death of them. Has consumed the company and been a huge distraction. Bled to other parts of the company.
made by Heroux-Devtek in Canada, not Boeing.
@@julienjjj well then they didn’t forget any bolts on this install/integration lol
I’m glad they made it safe
Thank God! 🙏
I was on an airplane to Germany some years ago and it was exactly like that.. the storm was so strong the airplane was throwned out of the lane and we went up again. I was scared to death but the second time, it was very smooth. I told the pilot, I lost all fear on that day 😊
I was just enjoying the sound of that female ATC’s voice. It was so calming, soothing, and relaxing. ❤
He's actually a trans woman, very popular in the LAX atc area
@@bigpapa870 What has the sexuality of the ATC got to do with anything?
@@wendy-diannwendy-diann8060 im just clarifying