Is Valorant Better Than CS:GO?
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In this video, we're revisiting a very common question: is Valorant better than CSGO? As a former Valorant player turned Counter-Strike fan, I'll be providing a middle-ground perspective on this heated debate. I'll discuss my experience playing both games, including the community, skins, and gameplay mechanics. Whether you're a dedicated Valorant player or a seasoned Counter-Strike veteran, this video will offer insights that may change your opinion.
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Bro, you left out warOwl????
Imagine playing chess but they add a new piece and expand the board every 3 months... you can drop a csgo player from 2014 into cs2 and they would still know how to play. Even a cs 1.6 player would understand it as fundamentally the same game.
Thats why chess is boring imo
Even people who never play cs will understand what happen on the screen. Gun shoot, molotov burn, grenade explode. That may take like 5 minutes to explain. Good luck with magical animal, black hole and more 80+ abilities (some just the same thing but in different color)
@@alb1reo You don't have to add new things to the gameplay every couple of months to make it enjoyable.
@@DuyNguyen-sg7pwTrue, sometimes less is more
@@alb1reo bro youve got tiktok and fortnite syndrome
CS is one of the few games that is still popular and comes from the golden age of gaming. The game mechanics, vote kick, teamkilling, the people who play. It’s very reminiscent of 2000’s gaming that doesn’t exist anymore.
And almost all the maps are the same ever since too
And this is fucking great. After stopping playing CS and trying different games, the only game I ended up satisfied with is Rocket League.
@@mearbye tried tf2?
i still dont get it why would you try vote kick somebody, its always better to play 5V5 instead 4V5
@@hishamaru there could be cheaters, griefers, or just toxic people so we kick them
I think a good analogy for CS:GO vs. Valorant gameplay is a blank canvas vs. a finished painting: One has more to offer at face value, but has already been made, the other one seems blank in comparison, but the less you tell some one, the more blanks they can fill in at their heart's desire.
Toxicity? That's what makes CSGO, CSGO
The problem with valorant for me being a csgo player is playing while trying to understand what all those abilities do
i feel like im stuck in a wizard battlefield.
cs is simple and grounded on reality, you already know what most grenades already do. you don't have to figure out why there is a dog running across the map and shit
lemme add that not having abilities leads to more options in cs.. only having certain teammates being able to use a flash grenade or a smoke grenade is a terrible design choice.
@@Descreeet im not talking about life like realism. it is still a videogame but the guns and grenade are from the real world.
I don't care if you want to live in anime egirl world if that makes you happy, soyboy
@@Descreeet no one claims cs is a combat simulator
@@Descreeet if you want an warfare simulator, then you've gotten to the wrong place, mate. Though what that dude claimed is understandable, and compared with Valorant, CS is on a more realistic approach in some aspects.
@@Descreeet i think you've greatly misunderstood the comment. Cs has an aesthetic that compares itself to real life while valorant's aesthetic is cartoonish and focused on sci-fi. Both of them have great design choices btw.
Bro had the biggest character development of all time in just 3 months of cs
Watchu1 mean, bro got hated so hard he had to "change" opinions trash video
When you brought up that example for abilities adding an expiration date on a game, siege was the perfect example. Nothing feels fresh in siege anymore and the vast array of abilities makes it harder and harder for new players to get involved. I've been playing Siege and CS GO about equally in the past month, but I think that CS is better. I am having more fun with Valorant right now, since it is more fresh and I am still learning all the agents. Also you are 100% right on skins. I hate all the cookie cutter samey Valorant skins.
I honestly think it just depends on how into the genre you are.
I had never gotten into any high accuracy FPS games and started with Valorant, I had played CS a couple times and the player base was much higher skill level. Valorant offered an easier opening into the scene and is a more casual and laid back version of CS.
I'm getting into CS now and trying my best, but I have to keep up with a very intense community while I play pretty casually.
Its a lot more fun for me to hop into a Val lobby and go 23-10 rather than a CS match where I bomb for my team because of the intense skill gap.
CS is an awesome game, just takes a lot more commitment and practice to get into it properly. I'm on my way there though :)
I remember when Valorant came out, most of the pals I play CSGO with made the jump and co-opted me to try the game. I played a bit, realized it wasn't for me and left.
Also, I know plenty of people who play CSGO that don't really "play" CSGO, as in they don't play the main modes or matchmaking, they play alt modes or things like surf, kz, bhop, zombie escape, etc and they won't find any of that in Valorant
Dude I totally forgot to talk about the other modes in cs
@@goldecc A video on this would be fun
@@goldecc now, this sounds like an idea for a whole video.
Also. There's a lot of people who only "play" for the skin/skin community and because of the technical aspects of the source engine(3kliks).
@@TheBloopers30 Yeah even trading alone has so many players addicted to the little gambling that is still left. I miss sites that’s used to promote playing a comp match on custom servers for guaranteed skins back in like 2015 or so.
The best thing about skins and CS in general is how much the community is actually involved in the game. Since the early CS betas the community played the biggest role in the game's shaping up meta, maps, skins etc..
For example, de_Mirage
@@batsy_1939 every map that was made during CS's betas was community made and featured officially in the game just like how workshop maps get featured every now and then in GO
Nuke, Inferno, Dust, Vertigo. All of those maps started as community projects that were officially accepted and cemented themselves in the history of the game
CS itself is a community made game.
Also, every skin is community made
@@CS_Uravity_PRO And there's maps that were fully made by Valve for CS:GO, such as Overpass and Canals
only thing i hate about csgo is the elitism within the community. I swear everytime i see val vs. cs discourse, its always a cs player starting it. I understand they like cs but to say the community isnt toxic while they constantly put down other games for their egos sake is crazy ngl.
i know this is 1 year old but this comment contradicts itself
@@TOMMYWINK how so? im not putting down cs im calling out the comm
@eboyicecream1305 "thing I hate about csgo".
@@TOMMYWINK and then i proceed to complain about the community and not the game itself ??? yes i worded it badly but you know exactly what i meant.
@eboyicecream1305 i think that the community is apart of the game. You can find many time where valorant player start arguments related to the two games lol
I tried watching the valorant tournament that was happening recently, and the ability spam is just horrible. It's unicorn vomit all over the screen. Like 10 different colored smoke clouds. I had no idea what was going on a lot of the time
Its too big brain for csgo nerds to understand. Maybe watch some analysis video to better understand
@@thegodkira3953 its acc a lot easier to understand than cs lol, at least imo. valorant just looks messy so it can look confusing
@@winter4463yeah messy bcoz you don't get it....
@@snehajain4334 peak rank asc 3 i understand the game perfectly well and at a fairly decent level, buddy.
@@winter4463 "It looks messy and confusing"...
The game started making sense ever since I got out of gold.
You are either brain-dead or got carried, or even worse, lying., there's no way asc player can't understand utils in game.....
I just love the fact that Counter Strike has competition now, giving it less chances to be abandoned by Valve.
Yeah it is bilion dollar market. If there was not valorant, it would have be abandoned.
@@runek100 i'm pretty certain it was fine before and after valorant. All you have to do is look at the data.
@@wobblewarfare4494 obviously
Valve has not abandoned cs. cs2 is on the way and it seems like it'll be here for the long haul. valve may not be transparent, but they still actively work on cs
yea Valve leaving a game that generates yearly billions of dollars bc of gambling. The game needs competition?, in what world
I have the same issue with most hero-based multiplayer games. If you are deep in the game's ecosystem and play it regularly, you're chilling. However, if you take a break for a couple weeks or longer, you could come back and the game is completely changed and you have to re-learn a lot. I played overwatch for a solid year and after I stopped it was basically impossible to consistently pick the game back up because once they've added 2+ heroes since the last time I played it's a nightmare.
I can go months without playing csgo and I'll come back and I can get back into clicking heads and playing the same game. Tbh cod does this even better, I can skip entire cod game releases and come back years later and still figure things out in the new game pretty quickly.
Unless the hero based multiplayer game is Team Fortress 2, hasn't changed in a long while.
Call me old school. But I do not like games with heroes. I don't have the time to learn which hero does what. That's why games like CS, BF, and UT are/were so great. No bullshit heroes. Just clean and simple game play.
@@simplysmiley4670 Yeah, most games these days keep adding heroes to keep up the hype surrounding their game. But I feel like that always causes a power creep also the heroes are always OP when they release to get people to buy them.
Honestly the same is somewhat true with CS:GO, but where nothing really change other than the meta (aka players learning new stuff), but that meta change can really fuck with one as an old player after a break. Having reinvent how you play almost everything when suddenly everyone knows how to counter you can suck quite a bit. With that said, you also sometimes experience the opposite where an old way of playing suddenly work wonders because the enemies you have didn't live through that meta and have no clue how to counter it.
I mean i started playing Valorant since
-Most my friends play it and i cant find people to play with in CS:GO
-CS became boring over time.
-But i will return once CS2 comes out and hopefully i can run it decently.
Something important to mention is that valorant is a lot more slow paced than csgo. A lot of times a simple b rush in csgo doesnt work in valorant since we have like 10 mollies, 10 flashes, 5 stuns, and like two pulls. Overall valorant rounds tend to be more baiting out abilities and stuff.
I've played LoL intensively for the first few seasons and when I gave it a try recently I genuinely had no clue how to play the game anymore, it was completely different.
When I tried Valorant I liked the gameplay but recognised it's going the way of LoL and went back to CS. I don't want to have to learn the game again every few updates.
After putting plenty of hours into both games, I couldn't agree more. One thing I think that's worth mentioning is the meta that comes along with having heroes with different abilities. I don't want to play a game where I am at a inherent disadvantage because I didn't pick a top tier hero. I like it when everyone is on an equal playing field and has access to the same equipment.
I mean it doesn't really work like that but i get you. Just don't let the internet pick what you play. For example people say LOL is for obese discord mods, well that will stop you from paying that game right? No don't do that do what you like (i am not telling you to play lol for 10 hours a day)
@@batsy_1939 ok but league is exactly what he said he hates. in league you can master a playstyle with a few champs and climb really high only for riot to decide that next patch your champions will be 45% wr L tier and you can play 10x better than the enemy players but still lose just off the fact that they're playing meta champions and you are not. How fun can the game be when arguably the best mechanical player in the world (beifeng) goes from solo killing 2k lp chinese super server midlaners lvl 3-4 to using tp first strike dshield resolve and hugging his turret for 20 minutes hoping his team wins.
??? huh???? yea just stay to csgo lmaooooooooo
@@marinmesaric6213 yeah but league is a moba, metas change constantly and are inherent to the genre
@@HOODPARANOIA and valorant is kinda a mix of fps and moba
which is rly taxing for the mind
playing the game without any competitive sense can already become stressfull
beeing a pro player in valorant must be pure hell:D
glad bro changed his mind, and saw how csgo is just actually good
bro changed his mind cause he got flamed, what a pushover
Am i like the only person who enjoys both games?
@@Nixias_ yup
@@Jsonic-- :(
@@Nixias_ay i switch between the 2 games, but were probably the last 2 people
Adding a new character will indeed change the meta, which mean that there will be a lot change for the older character, and this kind of situation already badly affect the fun factor of heroes based game like rainbow six siege and apex legend, honestly the best case scenario for heroes based game, is staying with the original roster of the game, and for the "live-service" side of the game, adding new map and new skins are already enough
Been playing CS since 2013 and tried out Valorant for about a month. At first the gun play seemed way easier but I think that was down to the fact that the people I played against were bad. Towards the end I just got sick of losing because of abilities.
It was early days for Valorant but I also found that there was very little team coordination. More like a 5v5 Deathmatch with the option of planting the spike. Ik in CS you don't HAVE to plant the bomb but even still generally the team will work together to win the round.
yeah this was me at first too. i placed gold at first and it was a point and click adventure. but going into dia lobbies now when im playing against people that know how to use util properly i cant get anything done lol. to learn how to counter it i'd need to play the game more but i just dont have time for it, im too busy playing cs :P
Honestly, I'm fine with the random bullet spray sometimes, I just hate how you get crippled if you get shot once in valorant. It feels like the better aimer looses cause they can't move
rip jiggling for info or escaping any gunfight ever
i have never had your issue i always see my target the same time they see me maybe you just dont have good gamesense or there is just way too many things happening at once
For Valorant, the variety in abilities makes for very goofy, funny and creative site setups. Hitting the 5 man rush with Breach's stun and a Raze grenade is so satisfying. For CSGO, the gunplay and the movement mechanics are so crisp it feels super clean and smooth. The game is pretty straightforward with simpler utilities and gun control, so it is easier for beginners to get into the game and once they start getting better it's way more fun than Valorant. CSGO can get kind of stale over time tho, so I prefer playing both games from time to time to keep things fresh :D
Same. I enjoy both games sadly can't play csgo due to a screen issue that even my friend and I couldn't fix
100%
@@phenny1057 What is the screen doing?
utility is way easier in valorant tho?
@@rouk2621 yeah for me that was the problem
I’m glad you recovered from your sickness.
You enjoying cs2 ? 😂😂😂😂😂 have fun playing with 9 cheaters 😂😂😂😂
@@yuurrrrrrrr1 Valorant and Csgo are the serious versions of tf2 and overwatch change my mind
@@yuurrrrrrrr1 genuinely would rather play in a lobby of cheaters than interact with a Valorant lobby for more than 35 seconds
when u have prime u only encounter 1 or two in a game
on average @@yuurrrrrrrr1
I have close playtimes on both games (more on cs), but i would still go for valorant bc the game is a little more polished ( by that i mean it has better technical things like the better tick rate. Yes you can have better tick rate on cs by playing face it, but the diffrent tick rates affect the line ups sometimes) and bc i feel its more aciveble. You can see how much you've got to rank up and the algorithm is much better in my opinion. In cs the ranking system can be weird sometimes bc i would have a good win streak with top frag and still not rank up. However cs is much enjoyable when you have palls that are playing for fun, and for the skin part, i would go for the valorant skins ONLY FOR THE LOOK (and i understant the patterns and floats). On cs i go for skins so i can investment in them. You can win a lot of money (for an example i lost worth 300 euros from a lot of number k agents. I sold them when they were 5 euros to purchase an ak 😢). But in conclusion i tend to enjoy valorant more, but cs is still a good game that i have grown up with, but for me it kinda got boring
Your content is actually amazing, I love how you revisited an older video to address how your opinions have changed over the time in-between. You have a snappy editing, a good script and captivating flow and it completely amazes me what a few months can do to drastically change your outlook on things.
People don't realize that basic aiming and mechanical skills will still form a core of team strategies. I've seen Val people on Reddit belittle CS for having somehow "limited" tactical options for only having 4 utilities (smoke, flash, molly, HE). But Valorant ended up inevitably facing the power creep problem of newer, overpowered heroes (agents) constantly undoing any established metas-and it comes down ironically into spamming abilities and deciding the rest with simple gunfights.
Exactly lol. *press E to instantly flash the entire site*
Vs
Having the skill and knowledge to line up a flash.
One big thing in valorant that I 100% do not think you addressed is that the game is imbalanced between agents to the point that pick rates are through the roof for some agents purely by riot tweaking them or nerfing others. There are certain guns and maps that only work well with certain agents even if you are playing the same type of agent. In a tac shooter that seems kinda questionable and not an organic evolution of meta
after taking a long break from csgo, then hearing about cs2 my opinion on valorant has shifted vastly. I used to clown on its abilities being to much to think about and the maps being to claustrophobic, but after getting back into the rhythm of a csgo type game I enjoy valorant a lot and can't wait for cs2. I think players of both games should be able to enjoy each game to a certain extent. You can't really hate on something you haven't really tried.
Thats true, I don't think cs players should hate valorant for no reason, I know cs players hate e daters but you can just mute them, you can deal with a toxic player on cs but why can't deal with e daters on valorant. As an ex-Cs player, i think cs communities are the worst, I have never seen valorant communities hate csgo, only cs communities hate valorant communities
bro i agree, i like both but just like val a bit more but the whole val vs cs thing is cringe
I’m ngl I love cs and hate val, the abilities just aren’t for me, I enjoyed it when it came out, but current val just really isn’t great
@@Bruhsithevestso basically you are a person who likes simple gunplay that does not involve skillful abilities
@@Mastergenius_as a csgo player, most of us don’t necessarily hate valorant outside of like ftp non prime lobby’s. People make fun of it, but most people don’t bring it up. Csgo has a pretty chill community, and if you are toxic, the rest of the team just vote kicks you. I have a pretty high trust factor because of how long I’ve played, but I still never really ran into toxic people. Most teamkilling is just someone joking around, and after 2-3 teamkills, they get auto kicked anyway. The valorant community for the half hour I played it made fun of my lack of skins, my lack of skill, and my lack of understanding of the game outside of the operator and the vandal, even in a no ranked game. In csgo, provided that you aren’t playing ranked, the worst insults you will hear will be because of a whiffed shot. I personally have found the valorant community as a whole far more toxic and unwelcoming that thst of csgo’s.
Can´t denie that the buy/eco/request function aswell as the after death overview of recieved and given dmg is waaay much better in valorant. Like the overall in-game user interface badly needs a touch up in cs.
yeah, cs needs to take a page from this. do away with the outdated buy wheel system and more transparent ranks are a couple other things on my wish list. Fixing one ways with the new smokes and more visible tracers are great starts in CS2 and make it way more accessible to new players. Can't wait to see what else they do.
@@Tommo_ from what I heard CSGO was supposed to be a console port of CSS which is why it uses a buy wheel instead of list like in previous CS, so yeah they definitely need to change that
@@zelarketgame2211 that is indeed partly true, it was originally supposed to be a console version of CS. But the pc version quickly took priority
@@Tommo_ nah the buy wheel is great they should keep it
@@eksdee7377 what if they had an option to choose between the buy wheel and a chart-like buy menu?
what music was playing in 7:42 ?
I heard it sampled on a lost drum and bass track with just a low quality version lying around in the internet. it would help to know the name of the music you used in the video for i might try to restore the lost track
Its lujon, by henry mancini.
finnaly he said why he got vac banned
Yeah I don’t know why I never said it before. I guess it just seemed like such a stupid and underwhelming reason why
I think the one most important thing to mention is that CSGO has the AWP which feels really good to play and you can even become an AWper and just mostly play that gun and scout. WHile in valorant the operator is kinda good but you can't peek with it at all in higher elo and it just feels weird scoping in.
In valo OP only good for defense
the map design on val is also super restrictive (limited number of good op angles or positions you can fall away from) and the fact that you get tagged super hard makes it impossible to escape :_;
@@Tommo_the philosophy is different, but there are maps that have multiple angles, icebox if i remember correctly
The jet set radio music is the background is amazing
I like how you can climb almost anywhere in csgo and even after years find a new way to peek. In valorant there are only few paths and the only obstacles where u can climb on is only achievable when you play as jett, raze or omen and even then u dont even use them because most people dont even know u can go on that
Love how passionate ohnepixel is about valorant lmao, whether you agree with him or not its hilarious to watch.
I've been playing csgo since like 2017 and always loved the game. When valorant came out I tried it and been playing it since then with friends. When cs2 announcement came, I went back to play csgo and been enjoying it a lot more, even ranking up from my ELO hell haha. After that, I thought to myself that going back to valorant would be a easy breeze but always got hs by players that relied heavily on their agents abilities. Nowadays I just play both equally but really love csgo for the most part
After grinding cs for over a year to get to supreme, and dropping it for about 8 months, it truly is a shift in perspective. I played a ton of valorant way more often because I was enamored by the content and spin on the rigid gameplay of cs, but as I played it just kept getting more and more difficult to enjoy. I still play both games but whenever i return to cs after any kind of break at all, the immediate difference becomes apparent. Skill. Cs is so much more tactically heavy and mechanically taxing, compared to valorant which is partly luck and partly abilities. I used to grind through ranks of cs that i now struggle with just because the level required to maintain consistency in skill is so much higher than in valorant. You can watch valorant pro play and see the distinct difference in mechanics when it comes to gunplay and abilities.
What gunplay ? 😂😂😂😂 2 tapping and waiting to get traded is not gunplay
CS is much simpler to understand than valorant and that's why I think the skill ceiling is higher. You got less things to worry about in CS so you become a lot better at doing these things rather than worrying about a new agent and new abilities every now and then. You master the basics of the game better
Love the content man the first time I saw it in your TF2 lore vid amazing keep it up buddy
Your content is absolutely amazing, from the small details like the funny cats to the top tier editing. Keep it up!
homie got cooked and did the biggest backtrack of the century
Honestly, biggest thing putting me off about val is that its sooooo slow. I dont wanna compete to use a agent to not feel crippled
7:18 LMFAO, BRO'S SOUL LEFT HIS BODY
I think the gaming industry needs to change its direction. We want games like CSGO and Souls where they offer simple mechanics but hard to master. With new maps, you get a completely new game. Adding new heroes doesn't increase its longevity beside messing up with the game and robbing cash from players.
NAAAAH THIS ONE ALMOST MADE ME DIE FROM LAUGHING I SWEAR
2:37 😂🤣😂🤣😂
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I like learning so having to comeback and learn new things about the game excites me and keeps it interesting.
Surprised he didn't talk about the movement. The movement in cs is one of my favorite things about it and something that isn't translated into val where everything feels so squishy and imprecise.
val has complex movement mechanics of it's own on certain heroes, with precision being a focus. It just isn't as csgo inspired since csgo doesn't have all that much to offer in terms of movement compared to tf2 or titanfall/apex type movement
@@Rokusu clueless take 😂
@@uresfffff222 i’ve played cs for 7k hours lol cope
@@Rokusu valorant doesn't have good movement, the hero does like you just said. also noone cares about your hours, post faceit or irrelevant opinion
@@domerame5913 the hero is apart of valorant no? It’s insane how little the csgo playerbase Can handle different view points, really shows the immaturity the community has reached
I like that video and the opinion you got. Keep up the good work. :) Honestly, the only thing that annoyed me about Valorant were the abilities, eventhough I wasn't really bad at it. I just knew that if i'm not using my abilities correct in some sort of way, i get screwed. And ouh boy, the damn market rotation... I used to wait so long for the Xenohunter Knife to appear in the market just to realise how boring it actually is compared to a CS:GO knife. I played CS:GO since it came out and still to this day, things like Operations and the whole Skin Market brings me back to play this game. I like Valorant don't get me wrong but it feels like there is nothing that keeps me want to play this game. Nowaday's I do play both games but i'm just really hyped about the CS2 release and new Operations.
This is what I thought about Valorant when it first came out in open beta. I grinded for almost 1k hours then I eventually got fed it. I realised it being marketed and built as a tac shooter and adding more and more agents are complete polar opposites for the longevity of the game. Sooner or later, the game is gonna shift into a hero shooter. About a year or so, I downloaded Valorant and played it again just to get my mind blown away but not in a good way. I literally felt like I was at a circus, with dogs and birds and a bunch of animals flying around, flashes with the whole rainbow colour spectrum, guns that sound like laser beams, it was way too much to be a tac shooter.
Bro what i think you accidently downloaded overwatch
@@laranjanegociadora9877 nah it was Valorant
@@sh1ro9 guns sounding like laser beans are just skins, there's no rainbow flash and the animals came from a single agent
@@laranjanegociadora9877 wow you're thick didn't expect that. I said flashes with the whole colout spectrum of a rainbow, not literally a rainbow flash.
@@sh1ro9 just spin your head its not that hard and the colors dont make a change
Gotta love the lbp soundtrack being used at the start
i can relate to this video cause i used to enjoy valorant cause csgo full of hackers on my server which is annoying and i've never been that player who enjoy playing faceIT just regular comp games but then valorant came out and i started to enjoy it, till this added very very odd updates that made me miss csgo and i decided to redownload it and OMG it's like playing it for the first time ever again.
I feel like you should have talked about the guns more. TBH for the bit of time i tried valorant it felt like all the smgs were for people who didn't have enough credits to buy a rifle. theres no fun guns, only vandal. The best example is the phantom and classic pistols. The power difference between them is disgusting.
the thing with skins is that csgo skins have more detail because its simply a more detailed game, the good thing about valorant is the animations. some knifes have some unique animations but nothing more nothing else
One thing about valorant's weapons I completly despise is the "recoil" system which doesn't work at all like a normal games would it doesn't force your weapon up,down or in any direction it just fucks you over with higher spread couple that with really bad hitboxes and the entire aiming and shooting part becomes unfun and not really based on skill
learning smoke lineups and shit is just as lame as agent abilities imo
The thing is some people hated Valorant the same reason they hated Counter-Strike Online (Nexon: Zombies / Studio) yet they transitioned to it which boggles my mind completely
Its funny you bring up Siege, because I think the current meta according to the community is the best it's ever been being a solid balance of gunplay and util. Abilities haven't been much of a crutch since 2021.
Lmao I love the cat with middle finger goofy pics
as a long time csgo player. trying valorant. i never wanted to quit a game harder
I absolutely adore your content and editing style and every new upload brings a massive smile to my face
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Love your videos man, very well made, not over edited and being calm.
i like battlepass skins more than premium ones in val idk why like the bound phantom sys vandal (whatever it is) skins with no animation looks good and doesnt distract you like yk ( but still prime reaver and singularity hits different)
1:22 oh so that was the VAC ban thing
much better video man
congrats, keep it up with the good work!
Something I’ve noticed from playing both valorant and CSGO is valorant plays also tend to like CSGO but csgo players HATE valorant
I love that these old engines especially the source engine has so many secrets. Like u can find so many things. That’s why Gmod and CSGO are goated games
I think from a spectator standpoint CS is a lot easier to watch on the e-sports side as well. Its very straight forward and you can actually keep track of what going on without knowing all the different agents. As someone who can't play every day, I think that more simplistic games are easier to jump in and out of. You don't have to play catch-up on 8 characters being added and everyones abilities being reworked.
yo i saw this from ohnepixal reacting to it.
just wanted to say that your voice with the edit style is top tier. good work 🤍
I have found a good balance between cs and valorant and i go back and forth between them when i feel burnt on either.
That’s how I was for a bit now i got the cs fever
As one said before to stop this war. "They are not the same game. It is what it is."
what is the song at 7:20 i hear it everywhere but i have no clue what it is and its so good
Damn dude very good opinion, like u actually take into count everything and ur statement is very objective. Fr very good video
I just want Valorant and csgo to be like Dota an league, where the community just accepts that there are some things different than the other game and that neither is better than the other.
Valorant cringe community made it unbearable and how they punish people for tilting. Since valorant also has huge girl gamers percentage compared to csgo it made those simps and discord users hop in and made it less fun with the boosting issue and smurfing to cater and aid some none deserving of those ranks.
why not both? The truth is they are wonderful games, both with their good and bad things, there are days that I like one more than the other and it's ok
hey goldec, what is screen resolution in csgo on this video?
I’m really glad I’m not the only one and the same boat.
Played CSS and was in early on CSGO. played for years. Loved the game and getting better and one day adult life took over and I just stopped playing games.
Time went by and Valorant came out and I passed on it for a bit but 6-8 months after it came out I gave it a shot. I could t meet the old standard I had in CSGO so a fresh start seemed easier.
It was cool for a bit and I loved the feeling of starting CS but colorful but it never “scratched the itch” like you said. I had fun and played but it never got me excited or hooked like CS.
CS2 is out now and I jumped back in with my 10 year coin looking like I just learned how to play on MnK but god I’m having so much fun. CS gun play and skill curve is just so much more of an addiction
They are both really good games. I play both depending on who I am on discord with. I do wish that csgo has better tracers on bullets because its really hard to know what I'm doing wrong when I try to control recoil.
the nice thing is that sprays are less random, so if you practice and learn the you dont need tracers, since you "just know" where the bullets go if you know what im trying to say
Even with the clusterfucked ablities I tried to enjoy playing valorant, what broke the deal completely was the fact that guns have RNG recoil, so the majority of the time overwhelming the enemy with abilties and being able to click on head is all it takes to win a round.
I still like the vibe of valorant so I occasionally come back to it but I find myself having smaller and smaller periods of playing it.
Just admit you run and spray then gets mad cause it didnt work lol
Thats why I play just marshall and sheriff. Valorant players have so poor mechanical skills, that you can easily play with just that.
@@runek100 dude I literally have better luck with sheriff and marshall than when I full buy, either because I play more carefully or because better mechanics like you said
@@laranjanegociadora9877 Man what.. I'm talking about recoil where did you get running and gunning from? I have 1700 hours on CS, It's natural for me to stand still when shooting, but the recoil system in valorant is literal RNG and it makes it not fun.
@@megafro6999 no cap sheriff has better first bullet accuracy than vandal.
Bro really put that just take five from the Brubeck quartet at 4:20
i know this is a basic answer but i think either one can be better but it depends on if you enjoy the cartoony vibe with powers or if you like straight up gunplay with simple util
the fact that you cant sell valorant skins just makes the game worse tbh
This video is very high quality
The video ending made me have a wave of nostalgia with the Sonic the Hedgehog theme
I used to be a casual csgo player who played for fun (I would play comp but not play serious) for about two years and my friends asked if I could get val and maybe 5 stack with them. I agreed and I almost instantly out performed them getting match MVP and about 30 kills each game. I also haven't touched anyone outside of neon except for when someone instalocked her. The funny thing is that I still have absolutely no clue what some of the characters do even though I'm 6 ranks ahead of my friends who have 8x the amount of hours on the game.
I personally find the val-csgo thing to be similar to the tf2-overwatch situation in a way. I play tf2 and csgo if I want to have fun and mess around since their communities are funnier and "casual" in a sense. while in val and overwatch their communities can get toxic if you break the status quo and not play how it's intended.
I actually play both games with friends and enjoy both a lot, but there's a few things I don't agree, for example Valorant having an expiration date. In my opinion having new utility coming out every so often, and having different metas makes the gameplay change a lot, and makes the game feel fresh from act to act, while in CS I feel like it's much more about perfecting skills in aim and utility with your team, and to me personally makes me get tired of CS from time to time cause the matches dont feel very unique, but I always come back to it.
I think that's his point though. How many agents can you add that both doesn't feel too stupid/gimmicky but it also adds value to the game? Think of deadlock right now, I think that she is not that great because she doesn't add that much to the game. She has a wall (similar to sage) that you can shoot through. Her trips are kind of bad since you can walk past them so they aren't used as trips. Her "crouch" mollies take about half a second to take off and it's not like you can't shoot while crouching. She is a bit more gimmicky and isn't that great on t side as a sentinel. She doesn't feel refreshing to play, she just seems a bit weird when I play her. A lot of the sentinels are already quite different and if you try to make more and more sentinels, it'll get too gimmicky, be too similar, or have too much weird utility that will make the game even more of a util spam than it already is.
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For content they could add a cs:go-like only kayo flashbang or omen smoke gunplay heavy mode to valorant. I enjoy playing around the abilities though.
The main problem with skins in valorant is that they change with the guns look like. If I see a player holding a gun looks like a dragon, I have no idea whether it's a vandal or Phantom or a bulldog or whatever. But skins in csgo don't change the base model, an AK-47 still looks like an AK-47 no matter what color it is, same with an M4, same with an AWP, same with a Glock. It's still very clear what a gun is even if a player is using a skin you've never seen before.
Mate, I don't think that's the problem here. I think you either just have poor pattern recognition or blind because the main gun structure of the Vandal stays the same throughout the skins and the same goes to the phantom and other skins. The shape of the vandal and it's magazine should be pretty recognizable even in the Elderflame bundle and everyone literally knows that there ain't no fcking elderflame phantom yet. I haven't seen the new N.E.S. Skinline and when I saw them dropped a phantom in that skinline, judging by its looks alone when it was dropped to the ground and I cannot phantom ANYONE getting confused by that because of the magazine shape, the main body frame and the LITERAL name that is shown when you point the crosshair at the skin on the ground.
Honestly, it's just literally skill issue on your side bro.
@@kenarbyperez2946 You're proving my point. I don't play Valorant so I don't have a lot of the requisite knowledge that you have. You say that literally everyone knows that there is no Elderflame phantom, well, I don't, I don't even know what an Elderflame is or what the set looks like. You're already telling me you need to have a deep knowledge of the game's aesthetics to be able to tell what's going on and that just turns off potential new players like me.
It's the same reason why I don't watch or play DOTA or League, because they're even worse.
@@every116 The elderflame skinline is the skin of the ak that looks like a dragon. Plus, you don't really need to have deep knowledge about the models of the guns. It's literally recognizable just by playing a few games plus JUST LIKE I SAID, the name of the gun when dropped to the ground SHOWS the name of the gun and what skin it is. Like, if I drop you a gun with a skin and you put your crosshair on it, it will show a label with "Elderflame Vandal" for example.
The game literally assists you in getting to know the Guns and Skinlines in this game even when ur just starting unless you really have bad memory. But ig you're right when it comes to league and dota 2.
For csgo skins i would like it, but i'd have to spend 200+ bucks just for a knife
I do agree with the valo skins, people only use like 3 skins and still buy the battlepass, i do like csgos more cuz its simple and clean but the knife prices are insane atleast 90 or 100 bucks for some battle scared butt plugs.
@@muritoonoori That’s a good point that I didn’t really think of
Yeah, I have 3K hours with no knife lmao. I have a bit of a gambling problem aswell which doesn’t help
100% agreed. I don’t like Valorant just because of abilities and random spray patterns. CS is simple and effective. Can’t wait for CS2!
With competitive titles my opinion is that the skill floor should be as low as possible with the ceiling being as high as possible. Valorant absolutely doesn't have a low skill floor. Having to memorize every single ability in the game and how it functions just to play into them is miserable to start off with. The gunplay is a highly technical skill to begin with just as in CS, but as you said you can be the best shooter in the entire game and still get killed by an ability from a Silver player. I started with valorant and had a few dozen hours into it before starting to play CS2, and the difference is crazy. CS's simplicity makes it far more engaging as I wasn't miserable trying to slog through my first few hours
Tad bit late, but I've been waiting for a video like this to come out
I love that somebody has an opinion on val and cs:go and it isn't only shitting on one or the other:)
Every few months I want to give a chance to Valorant. But I simply just can't. Why? Because there are so many changes that if I am not playing it almost every month, I am gonna miss some new agents and it will take me some matches to understand what's happening. In CS, it is just simple. Don't touch the game for like a decade, come back and you'll still understand what's happening. I've said that Valorant is not gonna be a huge thin for me from the beginning, and I was right.
It is not that drastic lol, valorant is easy game and all those new things are just variants of existing things. You can just carry with pure mechanical skills
The editing of this video is good and lbp music is very enjoyable
In the end its up to preference and the audience...but i do lay more towards cs on this
i startet playing cs again and i have the same feelings you got.
banger video
What is the music at 7:40??
Lujon, by Henry Mancini
I have played both and reach relatively high ranks in both games. Most recently: asc3 on val and ab 15.5k elo in cs2 both solo q and this is my opinion.
Valorant v. CS
1. Content/Community: E-Daters are not as common as it is made out to be even then most of the content is pretty whatever. I think this is mainly because the casual community for Valorant is limited and it is fully focused around the competitive scene. Most val content is just coaching and bad takes. The "casual players" usually do not play the game that much (probably not their main) and there is only so much you can do with the limited access to casual game modes. CS-GO has a community for surfing/movement, cheats, competitive, casual, funny content, mods, and so on. CS community just had more depth and community engagement but Valorant has a much wider audience.
2. Skins: I feel like making the argument that "skins can't be traded and sold blah blah blah" is dumb because when most people on the val community are arguing about skins they referring to the cosmetic appeal and attention to detail. CS has been out for much longer and will ultimately have a lot more skins. And that is the case for most games: Skins are for cosmetic appeal and not some form of crypto. I do agree that rarity and drops make skins a little more exciting and on val you do tend to see the same skins which makes it a lil boring but, like you said, val skins objectively offer more. At this point it is a matter of preference in the system built around skins. But Val skins by themselves, are easily more appealing.
3. Gameplay: CS-GO absolutely requires more skill. First, there is a higher skill gap with movement (counter-strafing, b-hopping, etc) while Valorant does not offer the same. At least for all agents. The only agents, I would say, have a higher skill gap for movement are Raze and Neon. They are the only ones that would match up movement skill wise. Then for util, even though Val has abilities, CS basically condensed all roles into one. All pros need line ups, need to know how to smoke, molly, etc. In Valorant, that is entirely role dependent so certain skills are divided by team members. Gun-play is where it really gets me; I do not see any reason why a competitive games like Valorant would have RNG dependent spray patterns. Having a fixed spray pattern like CS would get rid the most enraging gun play problem I find with Valorant, it wants to punish crouch spraying but It leaves room for pure luck dependent kills and does not belong in any competitive tac shooter.
4. Mechanics: What CS2 adopted from val, 16 to 13 rounds, kill indicator on bottom of the screen, etc, I have always preferred. Tk can go either way for me and vote to kick is pretty fun.
Overall, I would say that CS-GO was influential and much better for its time. It was one of THE go to PC games. Valorant was more for cs players to have a game that was close enough that it felt familiar, but different enough that it was fresh. Now I have my issues with Val but as it stands, the game is newer, the competitive scene is more relevant, and while CS is reminiscent of the golden age of gaming, Val is in no way a bad game. I find CS to be a little more repetitive but Val can get a bit obnoxious at times too. It's gotten to a point of preference. I don't think any of these two games is objectively better currently but I have always liked ability based games. I am always see-sawing between which one I think is better and right now I think I prefer Val just cuz I have been enjoying more than CS lately (burnt out).
I think personally once you reach plat and up (I’m ascendant) you start seeing other people learn how to use multiple agents well, and not only gain some game sense but also have good aim.
Edit; also, I think when I get older I will probabu enjoy csgo more cause I will grow out of the funsy stuff