This is why you put your rooftop tent on a trailer. That way you have the best of both worlds. The quick setup and security of being off the ground, and the ability to go and explore without packing up your camp
That for sure. If you are living out of a vehicle with or without a rtt you still have to pack up. You are so right, besides what you said it also allows to carry more needed things like food and water.
That's exactly what i'm doing. I bought a small atv trailer 5'x8' and I'm modifying it. I reinforced the frame, removed the fenders and fabricated new ones to accommodate bigger tires, did a spring over flip, and I'm building the upright frame for the tent. With 22" between ground and the frame, it has plenty of clearance for off road. I also have leveling jacks on rear corners, all led lights, and all wiring ran through conduit.
RTT is basically for someone that's constantly on the move from one place to another. You set it up at the end of the day to sleep with all your essentials to avoid making trip out of your campsite. It's not for everybody and does requires planning ahead of time.
laws might be different for different countries, but why worry about losing your spot? rooftop tents give the advantage of pulling up anywhere and camping
In the US, many places have designated campsites, even for "dispersed camping," so if you leave you can easily be fucked, especially if you have one of the only nice sites available. Here in the US, the powers that be, even with millions of acres, cram people into tiny areas to camp. The National Forest Service, especially, is filled with the dumbest people imaginable.
It seems like it would be obvious, but sometimes it's the obvious things (like being used to your tent holding your camp site) that don't occur to you.
@@benjaminbarker4808 I don't see it as her complaining, just her giving you things to consider when deciding if it's the type of thing you want to get into. Heaven forbid someone gives us some information. Lame
Thanks for sharing. We found that using a very small cheap $30 Walmart tent and a couple 15 year old crappy folding camping chairs that our kids used to use always holds our spot for us when we leave our spot.
i have a small 2 person Walmart tent for 35 dlls that i set up on my camping site so when i pack my roof tent to go somewhere the small tent serves to keep our camping site
Pros to a rooftop tent: 1. Can go to more secluded areas and not worry about ground type 2. Less if an issue of bugs, insects, animals 3. Easier to setup No need for air mattress since usually comes with a pad. 4. Less space in trunk The argument that you don't want to leave a table/chair at camp ground to reserve spot is pretty dumb as you'd still have to leave your tent at minimum.
I just spent an hour watching videos of different rooftop tents, I have always loved the idea of doing this, little boy treehouse kind of thing. I am now annoyed that I didn't see the obvious, thanks for pointing this out. I think it was possible that I would have bought one of these and then stood in a campground thinking what the hell, I can't use my truck without breaking down the bloody tent, so again thanks.
Agreed. Other people in the comments are saying this is pretty obvious, but honestly I would not have thought about this… So thank you for making the video!
The simple solution is you just mount the rooftop tent + 270 degree awning to a 4x4 trailer, leave the trailer in your campsite...then you can use the truck without breaking down camp...this doesn't work in remote single-camping areas of course, you may return to find a vacant spot with a missing trailer. But camping with a group, one person remains in camp to guard your belongings.
I can't agree,, the beauty of a RTT is that you can drive around and then find a spot where there is nobody, my truck is customised with a heat exchanger and shower with 120l of water and a 250w panel that feeds a 200amp/hour battery and 1500w inverter to run a fridge freezer , tv and charge batteries for my fishing kontiki.I really love my RTT.
Each to his own. I love my RRT for camping/hikes cos I have a very roomy safe space in a few minutes with no tent pegs to trip over and don't need to go popping into town all the time. My vehicle is a small 3dr go-anywhere Suzi so cabin space is at a premium.
I have an RTT, and when i was tent camping, I had never left anything behind to go explore. Extra five minutes is nothing compared to the entired 24 hours in a day.
Thx for your nice video. If that's your worst thing, finding a spot, I think I can live with it. My (narrow) experience say, start early, stop early. A small bragging. In,Sweden, where I live, it's a thing named "allamanratten", traditions of camping almost everywhere but with respect. Stay away from houses, stay just one night in new ce place, leave it our site probably cleaner and nicer then you arrived. Se yourself as a guest in nature. Skip bonfire's, campfire is ok, just pick firewood around you (not any living things) I wish you all safe and nice and safe tours. Oh yeah, you can drink running water almost everywhere, use some sense will be enough. X-a: this is not written in any way, just a good tradition. Anything written down will tease people to nitpick and find loopholes. Have many relaxing and nice nice trips.
Great point. While camping in the middle of nowhere in Montana, deep in the woods using a lifted AWD to get there, I've had my camping area ransacked when I drove out to target shoot, about 2 miles away... All within a matter of 2 hours at most. Obviously, I was pissed, but luckily we took many/most of our more expensive items with us to shoot. The crazy thing is there were absolutely no signs of anyone being around us for quite some ways in all directions... But it still happened unfortunately. I kinda like the idea of being able to have everything with you at all times.
It also is one of the benefits as you always have your home with you. I did most of my camping before the RTT was around and we used a ground tent some pipe and tarp, the new RTT are a heck of a lot nicer and look a lot better. Thank you for your video, it may be an obvious thing but when you are doing this for the first time the obvious things are what you miss at first. Hope you are having fun and Be Safe, please keep making the videos, I am going through the older ones as I can.
@@williambranham6249 But you lose the good spot anyways with or without a RTT. Unless you plan on leaving all your stuff laying there unattended... It's not a good argument.
@@MountainManGuy It is hard to believe that as bid as this country is that it is necessary to "save a spot". Also perhaps little better planning would prevent moving for supplies, etc. 2 light scooters might be a solution.
It’s a good point that might be obvious to some and a sudden realisation for others... it’s worth thinking about whether you plan to set-up a base camp and hang out, or you need to drive every day (and might even lose your spot at the campsite!). Then you can decide if you need the comfort of a rtt, or if you might need a cheap cubicle or ground tent to either use or just hold your spot. Some rtt’s are really so quick to set up that the whole issue is diminished (like clam shell style hard tops). And if you’re also packing away tailgate kitchen, two chairs, a fridge, a grill... then you’ll be breaking camp every time you go get a Starbucks anyway. I take a small tent too. We can use it if we like, maybe store folding chairs and tables out of the rain, and leave it there if we drive off. The ikamper skycamp 2.0 folds down in about 60 seconds.
Thank you, you have helped me make a decision to get the utility trailer and mount the roof camper on top of it and also get the additional enclosed tentage that gives you a additional room on the ground. The I was looking at locks everything up and it shows how to make it so no one can steal it. Anymore you almost have to setup booby traps to protect your property.
Wait a minute...if you are not comfortable leaving your tent or leaving a crappy $20 pop up there to save your spot, won’t you lose your spot anyway? Not the fault at all of a rooftop.
I bought an expensive soft sided RTT ,it's mounted on a roof rack on top of a lifted Tacoma and what a pain in the ass . I carry a 5ft step ladder just to make it easier to close, you have to climb up on top of the tent to close it and then try and force all the canvas and then struggle to put the bag on . Last time i used it i got so pissed off i swore i will never use it again so i have gone back to a swag and ground tent so much easier .
After losing some amazing camping spots and also dealing with taking the tent down every time we want to drive around, we're building an off-road trailer for our rtt!
really? you didnt come across this in any of your research? I bought my RTT 3 years ago and found this aspect in many pro/con comparisons. I don't normally return to the same camping spot so it works really well for me. Like others have said....seems like you need a different style of tent.
Thank you. I am now thinking about this method of camping. Sometimes the obvious needs to be pointed out. New subscriber. I will look at your other videos. Thumb up.
Agreed, my friend bought one for his Tacoma. It was nice being off the ground and comfy but take down/setup Everytime we left was a pain, never popped the window things out, oh and putting the leather cover back on Everytime was a pain. I am about to buy myself a SUV tent so I can camp out of my CR-V, the Napier one. Can't wait
They should make one with legs, that way you could run to town and when you get back, just drive under it and hook it back to the rack.. It would be more work but you could keep you spot.
@@AP-br6dh You run that risk with a trailer, tent or anything left behind, Something would have-to be done to protect it, to make it harder to take, but if someone really wants it, it's gone anyway.. That's just the world we live in.
Losing your spot is a fair point, but the setup time doesn't make much sense to me, TBH. It is literally the quickest thing I have done while camping since I bought one. It takes me longer to setup to cook. I would say a more understated drawback is you have to have a level parking spot to fully make use of the thing. I have remedied this with two jackstands on pads that I use with a 4 foot level to make sure we aren't sliding around in the night. This is more of a pain in the ass if you aren't in groomed campgrounds with leveled lots. Good to get more input on pros and cons of roof tents though, thanks for the video!
Ahhh, I was just thinking about that part. But more around just the packing up moving part. I would never leave anything expecting it to be there when I got back. But if you are at a paid site (provincial/national park) and need to take off for a bit, you still need to pack up. No base camp, so to speak. Thanks!
For the price of your roof top tent the tepui you could have got a trailer and left that roof top tents are for people that travel from place to place every time a new place there not for people that want to stay in the same place Four years in a roof top tent now same tent
We take a floor tent for multi day camping.... We use the rooftop for one night stays, or for camping if we don't plan to move the Jeep. I know others who do the same.
Good thought. I found this out while driving a rented Winnebago with a kid - had an emergency and had to unhook to get across town. What a pain. From then on, we went with a towable camper. Hadn't really thought about it tent camping.
thanks allie. good point i was wondering about that. you could always do texas hogs on state land and liscenses are $45 dollars for out of state hunters.. best part is you get lots of fresh pork....
Roof top tents are horrible because you cannot leave your tent behind to reserve your spot! A solution is to bring an extra cheepo ground tent that you can leave behind to reserve your spot but that’s not really a solution if your are worried about leaving your tent behind to save your spot. 🤣😂🤣
I might be wrong but the point of a roof top tent on your outlander vehicle is that you can park and camp anywhere your truck can get too. Soooo whats the real con here? BTW new to your channel and your smile is beautiful!
For me, not having a fly over the thing while you are setting up is the worst. In the rain, you take the wetness into the tent, and there is no way not to track it up, if you have to go from an unflyed area to the tent itself. The remedy would be to mount fly eyehooks onto the top of the hardshell case, maybe string a fly through there before popping it up, then staking it so that you create a dry space underneath to crawl in and out. The moving issue, I think you hit the right thing: a cheap pop-up tent, staked out, with a note inside, "THiS IS OUR SPOT!!! WE ARE COMING RIGHT BACK" and a phone number even, would deter any nice people. Thanks for the video. Look forward to more.
Come on, that’s not a problem. You leave your screen or wall kitchen tent, a couple lawns chairs, camp stove, etc. in your site. Ya fold the roof top closed and off ya go for the day. Another option, you mount the roof top tent on a n inexpensive little utility trailer (that also carries much of your kit), then you leave the tent and cargo trailer setup in your site as long as you want. This also allows for carrying bikes, kayaks etc on top of the vehicle. There are +/-, trade offs to every situation, half the fun is finding and testing solutions that work best for you.
yeah, but if you camp at the suburbs of the wilderness, IE normal campgrounds with reserved spots, is it really camping? I mean it serves its purpose like if you want to camp while going on a road trip and need to be sure you have a spot, or at the grand canyon or something. But most of the time, the reason many of us go camping is to get as far away from other people and into nature as possible.
I really wanted to get one, but with a family of 4 with 2 little boys it’s going to be challenging. You helped me choose a ground tent, for not it fits our family.
What's better than a rtt or a camper shell? GO FAST CAMPERS. Look it up. They're an amazing camper that solve almost all of the complaints of a rtt and a camper shell. Great video!
So what is the advantage of these tents? They costs more, less portability, more weight, less options, less areas you can travel to and use than a regular tent. Top it off with they cost 10x that of a decent tent. Is this just a novelty to have or is there some real benefit?
I’d sell the tent and put a topper on the truck. More dry gear storage and less set up take down time. RTT are fun in theory, less fun in practicality.
I say just be cognizant of where and when you're camping. If you are going into the sticks or just one night in each spot epic road trip style, RTT FTW. If you are camping in an established campground for multiple nights, then just use a ground tent. Seems like it's a different tool for different jobs. Plan your trip accordingly.
Come on girl really your not telling us the windows of roof top tent is aggravating you guys,(video content) the purpose of getting away from maddening crowds, timed schedules, and all that work grief. The time you guys spend out there is to chill slow the pace down a little appreciate and enjoy the surroundings and live. 5 mins here or there no way, your a pretty even as a mess and smart sounding young women, but it just sounds like your missing the point of getting away, This all said in a friendly constructive manner Good luck and enjoy😆
If you’re moving around, isn’t the problem of losing the spot a potential problem regardless of whether or not you have a rooftop tent? Just bring a cheap spare to hold your spot like Allie said. If you don’t wanna do this then you’re screwed with or without the tent. Great video though....now I know to bring a just in case spare ✌🏽
I'm building a RTT on top of a Kayak Trailer, so I can leave the trailer IN my spot. That was the biggest reason for using the trailer, vs on my vehicle.
hmm that truck bed, large enough for a bicycle, dirt bike... could lift it off the roof and set it on the ground... sure it wont get damaged, looks solid.
A canopy for your pickup might suite you better. I would much rather leave a gazebo/old cheap pop-up tent on the spot than my expensive tent with everything in it. Or get a couple of bikes on the back of the pickup! :)
@@travelinman482 Yes, if that's what you call it where you are from :) I have never heard it called that, always truck top canopy (canopy for short) or hard top/shell. If you ask for a camper shell here you'd get something that turns the pickup into a motorhome or that's got a build-in tent - think Ursa Minor J30
Ah, the worst part about a roof top tent is a problem with camping itself and not specifically about the roof top tent. Every tent takes some time to set up, and you can't just leave all your gear unattended in crowded, public camping spaces.
Yup that is a bad part for sure but by no means the worst issue with a RTT. I see you have a pick up truck. Well thats has a bed you can jump up on and access the tent during the unpacking and packing. If you have a taller car like a 2.2m high Landrover Defender then 99% of this is done on a set of steps. Equally the RTT you have to consider the weather. As it is on the roof and you pack it down each time you want to leave your campsite. If it has been raining then you are going to get soaked. Not all roof top tents are as awkward as the fold out pack away canvas types. I have used my RTT since i spent the the money 3 times in 4 years basically because i did not realise the multiple downsides to the RTT. I am a 44 year old man and really with the onset of planter facia climbing down a ladder in the middle of the night for a toilet break is less than ideal. I camp with my young daughter so when she needs to go i am up and making sure she is safe on the ladder. Equally the RTT is poor in design or its function with just getting dressed in the morning or at night. I would honestly say that 90% of a RTT decision when purchasing is the vehicle it is going to be installed on, The people who will interact with the RTT. If you have dogs like labradors not cockapoos and terriers. I found a neat solution to the many issues at Rubicon Expedition. They have created a tow bar platform for the RTT and it looks great unfortunately i cannot buy it as i am in Europe. So not to hijack a post but i believe that you are on the right track with the negatives you point out but i can assure you it is by far the least of the issues i found. I have many more but do not buy an RTT if you want ease by an RV tent or similar from Oztent. I see other people commenting on the review and yes people should be self aware and identify the issue before they purchase but there is no better research than doing it. That is costly so i suppose what these guys are doing is perfect hopefully it will get people into the product that suits them the most. None of these things are cheap so once bought you live with the decision.
Utilize your vehicle to get to places where the masses don't go... I wouldn't trust leaving stuff at a campground unattended. Of course, that would require you getting tires that aren't bald lol (you need new tires). Better fuel economy if you put it in the bed of your truck, too. Why'd you choose the actual roof?
Thanks for making this video! I hunt too and have thought about getting an RTT, but I like to make 1 camp and drive my truck to different high spots to glass. Your post convinced me to just stick with my wall tent, cuz packing up the tent every time I want to go out to scout would be a real downer.
Outdoors Allie thanks, I took some rebuilding as she was an old army radio truck. Have a look if you like there is a walk around video on my channel. Not the most space in the world in the back but she will go anywhere. Stay safe and happy shooting
Every single time I get hungry, I have to find food, and eat the food. So, do not get hungry. Every single time I get stinky dirty, I have to take a bath or shower. Do not get stinky dirty. Every time I drive my truck,I burn gasoline. Do not drive this truck. Every time I look in the mirror, I see me. Do not............
Why did you choose to put your tent on the roof instead of on the bed or on a rack on the bed? About to invest and curious about that decision. New subscriber. Great channel.
Reason is at 1:45. (Which is you lose your spot when you move) Good day! :D
MagicGuy808 seriously. Why did this video have to be 5 minutes long? Or even exist? I’m honestly just annoyed now that I clicked this link.
Thanks, our American friends never get to a point quickly 😂
thanks
@@matthewhammond5580 even exist is the key in your statement😂😂😂im fucking tired of this vlog bullshit
Thank you for your comment... i was literally 2sec into the video and saw your comment. Im out ...
This is why you put your rooftop tent on a trailer. That way you have the best of both worlds. The quick setup and security of being off the ground, and the ability to go and explore without packing up your camp
That for sure. If you are living out of a vehicle with or without a rtt you still have to pack up. You are so right, besides what you said it also allows to carry more needed things like food and water.
That's exactly what i'm doing. I bought a small atv trailer 5'x8' and I'm modifying it. I reinforced the frame, removed the fenders and fabricated new ones to accommodate bigger tires, did a spring over flip, and I'm building the upright frame for the tent. With 22" between ground and the frame, it has plenty of clearance for off road. I also have leveling jacks on rear corners, all led lights, and all wiring ran through conduit.
RTT is basically for someone that's constantly on the move from one place to another. You set it up at the end of the day to sleep with all your essentials to avoid making trip out of your campsite. It's not for everybody and does requires planning ahead of time.
No doubt.
laws might be different for different countries, but why worry about losing your spot? rooftop tents give the advantage of pulling up anywhere and camping
In the US, many places have designated campsites, even for "dispersed camping," so if you leave you can easily be fucked, especially if you have one of the only nice sites available. Here in the US, the powers that be, even with millions of acres, cram people into tiny areas to camp. The National Forest Service, especially, is filled with the dumbest people imaginable.
get a cheap crappy walmart tent and set it up to save your spot
This is exactly what we do, with a cheap cooler full of rocks sitting outside to boot! Works great!
Commonsense is not that common
James Copeland a fucking men
I'm kind of surprised you needed someone to tell you this before you bought a roof top tent.
LOL. I concur. Should be self-evident. Duh!!!!!
right. kinda complaining about nothing
It seems like it would be obvious, but sometimes it's the obvious things (like being used to your tent holding your camp site) that don't occur to you.
Heaven forbid someone try to offer helpful advice. Jerk
@@benjaminbarker4808 I don't see it as her complaining, just her giving you things to consider when deciding if it's the type of thing you want to get into. Heaven forbid someone gives us some information. Lame
This all sounds obvious...
Thanks for sharing. We found that using a very small cheap $30 Walmart tent and a couple 15 year old crappy folding camping chairs that our kids used to use always holds our spot for us when we leave our spot.
Yes, great idea.
This is likely what I will do 😂
i have a small 2 person Walmart tent for 35 dlls that i set up on my camping site so when i pack my roof tent to go somewhere the small tent serves to keep our camping site
Pros to a rooftop tent:
1. Can go to more secluded areas and not worry about ground type
2. Less if an issue of bugs, insects, animals
3. Easier to setup
No need for air mattress since usually comes with a pad.
4. Less space in trunk
The argument that you don't want to leave a table/chair at camp ground to reserve spot is pretty dumb as you'd still have to leave your tent at minimum.
I agree. I've even left a cheap ground tarp in my spot with a couple of ALDI folding chairs and have never had my spot taken.
You could even take the rooftop tent off and put it on the ground if you truly love a spot.
I just spent an hour watching videos of different rooftop tents, I have always loved the idea of doing this, little boy treehouse kind of thing. I am now annoyed that I didn't see the obvious, thanks for pointing this out. I think it was possible that I would have bought one of these and then stood in a campground thinking what the hell, I can't use my truck without breaking down the bloody tent, so again thanks.
Thanks for watching Jock!
Agreed. Other people in the comments are saying this is pretty obvious, but honestly I would not have thought about this… So thank you for making the video!
The simple solution is you just mount the rooftop tent + 270 degree awning to a 4x4 trailer, leave the trailer in your campsite...then you can use the truck without breaking down camp...this doesn't work in remote single-camping areas of course, you may return to find a vacant spot with a missing trailer. But camping with a group, one person remains in camp to guard your belongings.
I can't agree,, the beauty of a RTT is that you can drive around and then find a spot where there is nobody, my truck is customised with a heat exchanger and shower with 120l of water and a 250w panel that feeds a 200amp/hour battery and 1500w inverter to run a fridge freezer , tv and charge batteries for my fishing kontiki.I really love my RTT.
Sounds bad ass!
Each to his own. I love my RRT for camping/hikes cos I have a very roomy safe space in a few minutes with no tent pegs to trip over and don't need to go popping into town all the time. My vehicle is a small 3dr go-anywhere Suzi so cabin space is at a premium.
I have an RTT, and when i was tent camping, I had never left anything behind to go explore. Extra five minutes is nothing compared to the entired 24 hours in a day.
I’m just happy to see a RTT video that doesn’t involve a Toyota Tacoma😁
Or Jeep jku.
Thx for your nice video. If that's your worst thing, finding a spot, I think I can live with it. My (narrow) experience say, start early, stop early. A small bragging. In,Sweden, where I live, it's a thing named "allamanratten", traditions of camping almost everywhere but with respect. Stay away from houses, stay just one night in new ce place, leave it our site probably cleaner and nicer then you arrived. Se yourself as a guest in nature. Skip bonfire's, campfire is ok, just pick firewood around you (not any living things) I wish you all safe and nice and safe tours. Oh yeah, you can drink running water almost everywhere, use some sense will be enough. X-a: this is not written in any way, just a good tradition. Anything written down will tease people to nitpick and find loopholes. Have many relaxing and nice nice trips.
I’m gonna break camp, anytime I leave camp.
Leaving your stuff, is a good way to lose your stuff.
For sure!
Great point. While camping in the middle of nowhere in Montana, deep in the woods using a lifted AWD to get there, I've had my camping area ransacked when I drove out to target shoot, about 2 miles away... All within a matter of 2 hours at most. Obviously, I was pissed, but luckily we took many/most of our more expensive items with us to shoot. The crazy thing is there were absolutely no signs of anyone being around us for quite some ways in all directions... But it still happened unfortunately.
I kinda like the idea of being able to have everything with you at all times.
@@OutdoorsAllie
Why would you need to constantly drive away from your camp site? Your problem is your moving all the time, not the rooftop tent.
It also is one of the benefits as you always have your home with you. I did most of my camping before the RTT was around and we used a ground tent some pipe and tarp, the new RTT are a heck of a lot nicer and look a lot better. Thank you for your video, it may be an obvious thing but when you are doing this for the first time the obvious things are what you miss at first. Hope you are having fun and Be Safe, please keep making the videos, I am going through the older ones as I can.
Thanks for watching!!!
Just 5+5 mins in your life is so priceless? But you spend hours on fishing.........
I think the downside for these folks is losing a good spot. I don't think the time lost is really an issue.
@@williambranham6249 But you lose the good spot anyways with or without a RTT. Unless you plan on leaving all your stuff laying there unattended... It's not a good argument.
@@MountainManGuy It is hard to believe that as bid as this country is that it is necessary to "save a spot". Also perhaps little better planning would prevent moving for supplies, etc. 2 light scooters might be a solution.
Get a cheap popup tent.
And put it up.
Empty.
Saves your spot.
Problem solved.
Sheesh.
It’s a good point that might be obvious to some and a sudden realisation for others... it’s worth thinking about whether you plan to set-up a base camp and hang out, or you need to drive every day (and might even lose your spot at the campsite!). Then you can decide if you need the comfort of a rtt, or if you might need a cheap cubicle or ground tent to either use or just hold your spot. Some rtt’s are really so quick to set up that the whole issue is diminished (like clam shell style hard tops). And if you’re also packing away tailgate kitchen, two chairs, a fridge, a grill... then you’ll be breaking camp every time you go get a Starbucks anyway. I take a small tent too. We can use it if we like, maybe store folding chairs and tables out of the rain, and leave it there if we drive off. The ikamper skycamp 2.0 folds down in about 60 seconds.
Thanks for the feedback Jason!
Thank you, you have helped me make a decision to get the utility trailer and mount the roof camper on top of it and also get the additional enclosed tentage that gives you a additional room on the ground. The I was looking at locks everything up and it shows how to make it so no one can steal it. Anymore you almost have to setup booby traps to protect your property.
Good to hear!
SFCRambo60, which RTTwere you looking at? TIA
Wait a minute...if you are not comfortable leaving your tent or leaving a crappy $20 pop up there to save your spot, won’t you lose your spot anyway? Not the fault at all of a rooftop.
Got one setup on a trailer so can venture round in car and leave camp setup
That soudns awesome!
That actually sounds like a pretty good idea
BR1967FE but u can’t always get a trailer everywhere when overlanding
probassfishing a decent trailer setup will follow you just about everywhere your rig is capable of going.
Y’all look like your having fun .....one thing ya might add is a truck rack , PVC solar shower n awning. Y’all be safe n above all else have a blast .
Thanks David. I have been looking at the Tuff Stuff Rack!
I bought an expensive soft sided RTT ,it's mounted on a roof rack on top of a lifted Tacoma and what a pain in the ass . I carry a 5ft step ladder just to make it easier to close, you have to climb up on top of the tent to close it and then try and force all the canvas and then struggle to put the bag on . Last time i used it i got so pissed off i swore i will never use it again so i have gone back to a swag and ground tent so much easier .
Sometimes simple is better.
After losing some amazing camping spots and also dealing with taking the tent down every time we want to drive around, we're building an off-road trailer for our rtt!
Ahhh I like that idea!
@@OutdoorsAllie rely you needed some one to pint it out god you are dumb
really? you didnt come across this in any of your research? I bought my RTT 3 years ago and found this aspect in many pro/con comparisons. I don't normally return to the same camping spot so it works really well for me. Like others have said....seems like you need a different style of tent.
Thank you. I am now thinking about this method of camping. Sometimes the obvious needs to be pointed out. New subscriber. I will look at your other videos. Thumb up.
Thanks for watching Will!
That sounds like your problem. Most folks who tent don't pack up and leave daily.
2:35 If I don't feel confident leavibg a chair or cheap tent behind why would I be confident about leaving an expensive tent alone?
I live on an island where overloading crowds and apps are not a thing.
Agreed, my friend bought one for his Tacoma. It was nice being off the ground and comfy but take down/setup Everytime we left was a pain, never popped the window things out, oh and putting the leather cover back on Everytime was a pain. I am about to buy myself a SUV tent so I can camp out of my CR-V, the Napier one. Can't wait
Nice! I hope that works out well for you!
Why buy a tent like that if you moving evey day , it's pretty obvious that you have to put it away every time you want to move.
You don't want to leave your stuff behind anyway!
They should make one with legs, that way you could run to town and when you get back, just drive under it and hook it back to the rack..
It would be more work but you could keep you spot.
Tim berg yes, that’s a great idea. It could also remedy the pain in the ass of mounting it in your garage. Just back your truck in and lower it down
You run the risk of someone driving off with your RTT. Just saying.
@@AP-br6dh You run that risk with a trailer, tent or anything left behind, Something would have-to be done to protect it, to make it harder to take, but if someone really wants it, it's gone anyway..
That's just the world we live in.
A P why would you not be more concerned about your truck?
tim berg Atlast a man with common sense 😁👌🇬🇧🏍
Losing your spot is a fair point, but the setup time doesn't make much sense to me, TBH. It is literally the quickest thing I have done while camping since I bought one. It takes me longer to setup to cook. I would say a more understated drawback is you have to have a level parking spot to fully make use of the thing. I have remedied this with two jackstands on pads that I use with a 4 foot level to make sure we aren't sliding around in the night. This is more of a pain in the ass if you aren't in groomed campgrounds with leveled lots. Good to get more input on pros and cons of roof tents though, thanks for the video!
Ahhh, I was just thinking about that part. But more around just the packing up moving part. I would never leave anything expecting it to be there when I got back. But if you are at a paid site (provincial/national park) and need to take off for a bit, you still need to pack up. No base camp, so to speak. Thanks!
Yes. Thanks for watching Blair!
For the price of your roof top tent the tepui you could have got a trailer and left that roof top tents are for people that travel from place to place every time a new place there not for people that want to stay in the same place
Four years in a roof top tent now same tent
If you don't wan't to lose the camping spot just buy small ground cheap tent for one person in Walmart and leave it on the spot if needed.
We take a floor tent for multi day camping....
We use the rooftop for one night stays, or for camping if we don't plan to move the Jeep. I know others who do the same.
Sounds like a good plan!
Good thought. I found this out while driving a rented Winnebago with a kid - had an emergency and had to unhook to get across town. What a pain. From then on, we went with a towable camper. Hadn't really thought about it tent camping.
For sure. Thanks for watching!!
thanks allie. good point i was wondering about that. you could always do texas hogs on state land and liscenses are $45 dollars for out of state hunters.. best part is you get lots of fresh pork....
Sounds delicious!
State land is a hard hunt though I bet, since you don't have much in texas
Roof top tents are horrible because you cannot leave your tent behind to reserve your spot! A solution is to bring an extra cheepo ground tent that you can leave behind to reserve your spot but that’s not really a solution if your are worried about leaving your tent behind to save your spot. 🤣😂🤣
But if you leave your tent unattended, don't you risk losing your stuff?
I might be wrong but the point of a roof top tent on your outlander vehicle is that you can park and camp anywhere your truck can get too. Soooo whats the real con here? BTW new to your channel and your smile is beautiful!
For me, not having a fly over the thing while you are setting up is the worst. In the rain, you take the wetness into the tent, and there is no way not to track it up, if you have to go from an unflyed area to the tent itself. The remedy would be to mount fly eyehooks onto the top of the hardshell case, maybe string a fly through there before popping it up, then staking it so that you create a dry space underneath to crawl in and out. The moving issue, I think you hit the right thing: a cheap pop-up tent, staked out, with a note inside, "THiS IS OUR SPOT!!! WE ARE COMING RIGHT BACK" and a phone number even, would deter any nice people. Thanks for the video. Look forward to more.
Yep, you got that right. Thanks for watching Deanya!
Summer camping in the heat means we have to open the windows or sweat all night...
Good point about the heat. I'm in the market (maybe) for the RTT
Bring a cheap portable canopy or tent and a picnic table and stake your claim...
Come on, that’s not a problem. You leave your screen or wall kitchen tent, a couple lawns chairs, camp stove, etc. in your site. Ya fold the roof top closed and off ya go for the day. Another option, you mount the roof top tent on a n inexpensive little utility trailer (that also carries much of your kit), then you leave the tent and cargo trailer setup in your site as long as you want. This also allows for carrying bikes, kayaks etc on top of the vehicle. There are +/-, trade offs to every situation, half the fun is finding and testing solutions that work best for you.
If this is the worst problem, then there is no problem at all.
Doesn't fit your style of camping... if you were to camp at a "normal" campground... you know where you reserve spots, this wouldn't be an issue.
yeah, but if you camp at the suburbs of the wilderness, IE normal campgrounds with reserved spots, is it really camping? I mean it serves its purpose like if you want to camp while going on a road trip and need to be sure you have a spot, or at the grand canyon or something. But most of the time, the reason many of us go camping is to get as far away from other people and into nature as possible.
@@Daishar I agree, campgrounds are at the bottom of the list of places I'd want to camp. Give me dispersed camping every day of the week!
Not everyone likes to camp at the local KOA.
Opening the windows IS overrated. I think the RTT is still worth it.
For sure.
I really wanted to get one, but with a family of 4 with 2 little boys it’s going to be challenging. You helped me choose a ground tent, for not it fits our family.
Good to hear.
What's better than a rtt or a camper shell? GO FAST CAMPERS. Look it up. They're an amazing camper that solve almost all of the complaints of a rtt and a camper shell. Great video!
I'll check it out!
get an eBike sponsor so you can get around after you setup tent...maybe they will send you a free ebike to demo!
Hey y'all it's tagless Ali you've become quite the Vagabond since you don't have a tag LOL
LOL always
So what is the advantage of these tents? They costs more, less portability, more weight, less options, less areas you can travel to and use than a regular tent. Top it off with they cost 10x that of a decent tent. Is this just a novelty to have or is there some real benefit?
There are some benefits, however it does come at a high price tag.
Bring more supplies so that you can stay longer!!!
I’d sell the tent and put a topper on the truck. More dry gear storage and less set up take down time. RTT are fun in theory, less fun in practicality.
I've been thinking about getting a topper.
Outdoors Allie ...added benefit no one asks you to help move big furniture. 😂
LOL no doubt!
To be fair if you have a $50k plus motorhome you have to do the same
I say just be cognizant of where and when you're camping. If you are going into the sticks or just one night in each spot epic road trip style, RTT FTW. If you are camping in an established campground for multiple nights, then just use a ground tent. Seems like it's a different tool for different jobs. Plan your trip accordingly.
Agreed.
Thats not a flaw. Thats called a regular tent
This is why pop top conversions are the true master race
Come on girl really your not telling us the windows of roof top tent is aggravating you guys,(video content) the purpose of getting away from maddening crowds, timed schedules, and all that work grief.
The time you guys spend out there is to chill slow the pace down a little appreciate and enjoy the surroundings and live. 5 mins here or there no way, your a pretty even as a mess and smart sounding young women, but it just sounds like your missing the point of getting away,
This all said in a friendly constructive manner Good luck and enjoy😆
K Ranson yeah a whole 5 mins on each side. First world problems.
If you’re moving around, isn’t the problem of losing the spot a potential problem regardless of whether or not you have a rooftop tent? Just bring a cheap spare to hold your spot like Allie said. If you don’t wanna do this then you’re screwed with or without the tent. Great video though....now I know to bring a just in case spare ✌🏽
Definitely bring the spare. Thanks for watching!
Off road camping trailer. $40k and problem solved
If you have to stop camping constantly to head back into town are you even camping?
Thanks Allie:) Hope u2 are having a great time despite the setbacks.
We'll get it all figured out!
Roof top tents are for bivouac, not to camp in same spot every day. Or Only to hike around this spot.
Should have bought a roof top tent box. There, fixed it for you
Literally takes 5 minutes at most to set up or take down. Not a big deal. I'd spend double that and then some on some ground tents.
Hell it takes me 35+ minutes to set up my hot stove tipi tent
What about peeing in the middle of the night ?
Time is a issue for you ..........nothing to do with the tent.
I'm building a RTT on top of a Kayak Trailer, so I can leave the trailer IN my spot. That was the biggest reason for using the trailer, vs on my vehicle.
That sounds awesome!
hmm that truck bed, large enough for a bicycle, dirt bike...
could lift it off the roof and set it on the ground... sure it wont get damaged, looks solid.
Ya, that would be a good idea.
Also thankyou for this, i never thought about the losing your spot problem.
Glad it helped!
I think you're the first to address this issue.
A canopy for your pickup might suite you better. I would much rather leave a gazebo/old cheap pop-up tent on the spot than my expensive tent with everything in it. Or get a couple of bikes on the back of the pickup! :)
You mean a camper shell, right? A canopy is a cloth like covering that goes over your bed in your house. Think kings and queens.
@@travelinman482 Yes, if that's what you call it where you are from :) I have never heard it called that, always truck top canopy (canopy for short) or hard top/shell. If you ask for a camper shell here you'd get something that turns the pickup into a motorhome or that's got a build-in tent - think Ursa Minor J30
Well if you move alot with your vehicle when camping why would you buy a ROOFTOP tent .... 🤦🏻♂️
Don't say you look like a hot mess. Its just a natural look. You aren't a dirtbag.
Ah, the worst part about a roof top tent is a problem with camping itself and not specifically about the roof top tent.
Every tent takes some time to set up, and you can't just leave all your gear unattended in crowded, public camping spaces.
Yup that is a bad part for sure but by no means the worst issue with a RTT. I see you have a pick up truck. Well thats has a bed you can jump up on and access the tent during the unpacking and packing. If you have a taller car like a 2.2m high Landrover Defender then 99% of this is done on a set of steps. Equally the RTT you have to consider the weather. As it is on the roof and you pack it down each time you want to leave your campsite. If it has been raining then you are going to get soaked. Not all roof top tents are as awkward as the fold out pack away canvas types. I have used my RTT since i spent the the money 3 times in 4 years basically because i did not realise the multiple downsides to the RTT. I am a 44 year old man and really with the onset of planter facia climbing down a ladder in the middle of the night for a toilet break is less than ideal. I camp with my young daughter so when she needs to go i am up and making sure she is safe on the ladder. Equally the RTT is poor in design or its function with just getting dressed in the morning or at night. I would honestly say that 90% of a RTT decision when purchasing is the vehicle it is going to be installed on, The people who will interact with the RTT. If you have dogs like labradors not cockapoos and terriers. I found a neat solution to the many issues at Rubicon Expedition. They have created a tow bar platform for the RTT and it looks great unfortunately i cannot buy it as i am in Europe. So not to hijack a post but i believe that you are on the right track with the negatives you point out but i can assure you it is by far the least of the issues i found. I have many more but do not buy an RTT if you want ease by an RV tent or similar from Oztent. I see other people commenting on the review and yes people should be self aware and identify the issue before they purchase but there is no better research than doing it. That is costly so i suppose what these guys are doing is perfect hopefully it will get people into the product that suits them the most. None of these things are cheap so once bought you live with the decision.
All valid points Steve. Thanks for watching!
Actually that's a plus for rooftop tents cause you can camp where no ground tent could... like middle of a shallow river lol...
LOL
Seems like loosing your spot would happen if you were ground tent camping if you were not comfortable leaving your stuff behind.
So, it's nothing to do with the tent, it's just that you aren't really camping if you are driving into town every freaking day.
We had to move everyday for numerous reasons. Hiking, fishing, groceries, etc.
Here's my most recent Roof Top Tent video for anyone interested. Thanks for watching!!
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The trick to not lose your campsite is to bring a regular tent and set it up so you can come and go. Not even kidding it works
next time for sure!
You should try Red Roof Inn. Inexpensive, no setup, no takedown, and you don’t have to mark your spot.
Good point lol
Utilize your vehicle to get to places where the masses don't go... I wouldn't trust leaving stuff at a campground unattended.
Of course, that would require you getting tires that aren't bald lol (you need new tires).
Better fuel economy if you put it in the bed of your truck, too. Why'd you choose the actual roof?
Inexperience. I'd prefer bed next time.
Appreciate the cons, someone else said in the video and you lose your campsite when you pack up thank you
Thanks for watching Chris!
Thanks for making this video! I hunt too and have thought about getting an RTT, but I like to make 1 camp and drive my truck to different high spots to glass. Your post convinced me to just stick with my wall tent, cuz packing up the tent every time I want to go out to scout would be a real downer.
Thanks for watching John!
Can't you just put down a tarpaulin with pegs as you might be using this anyway for any hangdown awning
Rooftop tents are great for people on the move, not so great for Campers who want to stay and enjoy the area.
I was thinking about a rtt but in the end we converted out landrover defender 110 van into a camper. Means it’s a quick pack up and move.
That sounds awesome!
Outdoors Allie thanks, I took some rebuilding as she was an old army radio truck. Have a look if you like there is a walk around video on my channel. Not the most space in the world in the back but she will go anywhere. Stay safe and happy shooting
Every single time I get hungry, I have to find food, and eat the food. So, do not get hungry.
Every single time I get stinky dirty, I have to take a bath or shower. Do not get stinky dirty.
Every time I drive my truck,I burn gasoline. Do not drive this truck.
Every time I look in the mirror, I see me. Do not............
Why did you choose to put your tent on the roof instead of on the bed or on a rack on the bed? About to invest and curious about that decision. New subscriber. Great channel.
No particular reason. I think I would prefer it to be on the bed next time!
Just take it off the top of the car and set it up on the ground?? Possible??
Yes, but it is heavy.
This is why i bought a hardshell roof top tent ''A'' style,super fast.
I like that idea too.
I'm just researching. Can you link to this type camper?
isnt that the point of a roof top tent, that you move around with it? if you wanted to fix a camp and stay there get a floor tent
Build a camping trailer for the roof top tent that's what I did. I tow it behind my Jeep it's got solor and running water.
Ya, that sounds like a great idea!