True, but they couldn't really continue it cos he was killed in another game at a time when Rockstar didn't even think about creating a prequel one day
The way Vic went down in the deal with Tommy makes me believe that he was the main target, possibly because they were doing the deal behind Diaz's back, or Diaz saw how much of a threat he could be and took him out, unknowingly unleashing Tommy's wrath.
He could have legitimated all his business and leave the criminal world instead of listening to Lance. With all the money in his pocket it should be enough to last him a lifetime@gaminginvestigators
Fact is, Lance was the reason Tommy Vercetti had to crush Diaz when he did. Lance managed to screw up an assassination attempt on Diaz, Tommy being the standup guy he is (for a crime lord) rescued Lance and made sure Diaz wouldn't live long enough to regret it.
He still would have done that. Remember in the intro Sonny Forelli said they will send someone down to build bussiness for them and carve them a "nice slash of action", so regardless of Lance or even the drug deal in the intro not going bad, Tommy would still have to take over the city for Sonny and given his attitude Tommy would still hold the grudge and kill Sonny.
Lance's stunt certainly sped up the process, but Tommy was planning to do that anyway, even regardless to the fact whether he was the one to mash up the deal. Tommy just wanted to take over and since Diaz was the king then, he had to get rid of him in order to do that
@@gaminginvestigators Oh 100%, Tommy was going to screw Diaz over, but thanks to Lance, it was an uphill fight that didn't need to happen. Lance later screwed up, by not handling business the way he should have with the security company. I'm honestly glad you got to put Lance in the ground in the end.
Sindacco appeared in SA, when they were sabotaging Woozie's Four Dragons Casino. CJ basically eliminated all Sindaccos in Las Venturas. And that's was one of the reasons why Leone family took over Caligula's Palace.
The leones and the forelli family invested in the casino but when cj robbed it they all left to liberty city, the sindaccos were the ones that owned the casino
@@Milty2001 before CJ robbed it, it was shared between Sindacco, Forelli and Leone, with Rosenber as a neutral middle man, basically a figurehead. In few missions before the heist, CJ damaged them significantly, with the final blow struck during Rosenberg's mission, as it turned out the guy CJ took for a ride on the hood of a car was Johnny Sindacco, who died to heart attack the moment he saw him in the meat processing facility.
I mean Sindaccos were still weakest but got power in Liberty City during LCs. But after death of Paulie Sindacco, the guy that Toni killed in LCS. Remaining of the Sindaccos or what left of them moved back to Las Venturas(this is why we don't see them in GTA 3)
There's the whole thing about 3D and HD games being in different universes and all, but my head canon is that what really happened after 1992 was that Sweet ended up being somehow killed by another gang (maybe even by a different Families group, like the Seville Boulevard or Temple Drive sets, as Big Smoke said that there was some bad blood between them) and then CJ realizes that he's already lost two siblings to the streets and didn't want to end up the same way, so he decides to leave crime, becoming legitimate and working on his legal businesses, his garage and car dealership in San Fierro, casino in Venturas and even becoming somewhat famous as Madd Dogg's manager, maybe even becoming a rapper himself (remember the Fruntalot ad in Middle Park East in GTA IV). After that, Grove Street Families fell and Grove Street ended up being taken over by the Ballas. I always thought of CJ as a guy that wanted to make it out of the hood and dream big, but had someone who kept pulling him back into it, same as Franklin and Lamar in GTA V. CJ himself tells Sweet that a few times. And that's what Franklin and Lamar claim, that while some of the GSF members could be dead, others have become CEOs.
@@asais1024 But that is what happened. The Families are still divided in sets in GTA V (Chamberlain Gangster Families, Carson Ave, Forum Drive Gangsters). The GSF are just the OGs, the first set, they're over. "Families" is the gang in general, and it's still around.
@@antoniocardoso2483Maybe davis neighborhood families is a continuous of the GSF I believe the leader and ogs quitted gang life style became like franklin in vinewood hills and leave the homies in hood to die off the remaining escaped to form davis neighborhood families and grove become a gone thing
@@antoniocardoso2483They even have an og boss for the gang they are named as oc balla boss in director mode but my experiences they always show up in fam turf and never davis or grove which was balllas turf and those og bosses help fellow fams in fights so it is rockstar mistake to make them as oc balla boss
@@asais1024nah families is the whole gang name consists of 4 sets (used to be 5 if you include GSF) like grove also have Seville fam and temple fam who was all apart of GSF just they got civil war and two of.them went away but reunited late in SA
True, I mean with such an ambitious, responsible and modern-minded person as Lamar on the team, there was no doubt at any point that they were heading to the top xd
I don't know if this is a truth but I think that Yardies, Vercetti's Gang, Groove Street, Leone and Yakuza still existed right now (Vercetti's Gang proves that they're still active on Vice City according some writing from Ken Paul himself back in 2002)
3D Universe story ends in 2008 Vercetti Gang was still in power in 2002(Confirmed in Kent Paul's website) The Families were active in 2004(confirmed in Maccer's website) Leone Crime Family,Yakuza,Yardies are still active after the end of GTA 3 story, however weakened due to loss of It's leaders(Salvatore,Asuka and Kenji) or in the Yardies case the loss of It's main operation(Spank Dealing)
Let's be honest. No matter if we consider same or different universes. In-game happenings are enough to explain why we don't see a certain character or even a whole gang in a next installment. And that dialog on 11:53 almost descibes CJ.
I always wanted to know what happened to Zaibatsu Corp from GTA 2. They were by far the most powerful gang, but they just kind of disappeared. Other gangs like the Yakuza come back in GTA 3, even El Burro from GTA 1 comes back in GTA 3, but the only reference to Zaibatsu in GTA 3 is a commercial for Zaibatsu Pharmaceuticals, which was their front operation to make them appear to be a legitimate business. With other gangs in the first 2 GTA games it's pretty easy to fill the blanks with what probably happened, but Zaibatsu, the most powerful GTA 2 gang, just fell off the face of the Earth with no explanation.
True, they kind of abandoned this gang leaving barely any trace, now instead we got Maibatsu car company that bans motorcycles claiming that they're too dangerous so they can make more money selling cars xd
Zaibatsu may only take over in the future, GTA 2 most likely takes place in 2013, so in GTA 3, in 2001 it is only a Pharmaceuticals company that expands it's operations later, possibly after the GTA3 story as Claude pretty much weakens every gang in Liberty. In Beta screenshots of GTA 3 you can see Zaibatsu posters that are not in the final game. Maibatsu may be a separate company or a branch of it, since they specialize in cars. An oddity is that in GTA 5 the Z-Type, based off the Zaibatsu gang car in GTA 2, has it's story rewritten in the HD universe to be a 1920s car, is manufactured by Truffade not Maibatsu or Zaibatsu.
if I remember the 3d/hd differences were phrased in such a way that basically implies that same things hapoened, same people exist, the protagonsits and other important figures of 3d universe won't appear in hd a bit like Halflife and portal being in the same universe but otherwise have little to do with each other
It can be assumed that while Victor and Lance Vance were away from Vice City, Ricardo Diaz took over their business and became the most powerful crime boss in Vice City.
I remember that "The Sharks" on GTA Vice City, they had a Van and in that Van there was a stuffed toy with a mask attached, I don't remember if it was on the bumper or the lights on top, but was it inspiration for Trevor's "lover" doll that is put in his car in GTA 5?
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They did but in 3D universe which is the best anyways
Forgot to mention that Sindaco's had some businesses running in Las Venturas. However theat got shut down by CJ after they continued to mess with CJs business partner, Wu Zi. Which I imagine contributed to the Sindacos downfall.
There's a few other gangs that got wiped out too. The White Stallionz were a biker gang separate from Big Mitch Baker's biker gang in GTA VCS,they appeared in only one mission and got wiped out by Vic. In GTA LCS,Tony wiped out another biker gang,the one led by Wayne that appeared in a few missions.
In GTA V storyline, the Gang to which Franklin was attached to ( Chamberlain Hills ) seems to be a part of the Families from what Franklin and Lamar says during some mission and the members wear green clothes and have green cars
@daki7070 They are Families, however while in San Andreas / 3D Universe entire gang itself is called the "Grove Street Families", in GTA V / HD Universe, GSF is only a single set of the Families gangs, with Franklin & Lamar being specifically "Chamberlain Gang Families" (CGF)
The Families in GTA 5 may have been originally called Grove Street Families but may have renamed themselves after that set went under. Franklin is born in 1988 so even if you merge the 3D/HD universe he may have been a small kid when Grove Street went under and not aware of the original name.
I remember in the psp version i had a weird bug in vcs where the cholos spawned in little Haiti after taking over their turf, and it got me wondering what if the ones that managed the business disbanded the gang and left vice city while the ones that were in little Haiti joined the los cabrones in 1986
The Cholos leftovers joining the Cubans? Interesting, however as one person already stated in their reply, I think the fact that the cultures were different would not allow that to happen
bro don't forget most of los santos was owned by grove street after the end of the line mission, cause the ballas went broke lost more ammunition cause of the lack of money to purchase them and more powerful weapons, cause in gang wars the ballas and vagos would have ak-47s and smg's but after the end of the line mission they would just have pistols and mac's, how do we know this, cause of the fact that without a business the vagos and ballas would go broke and would later on be destroyed by grove street members, who might be supplied by CJ with weapons, like the tec 9
Are we still get references of what happened to sweet and his brother CJ not much about the other characters we even get a reference about the riots that happened back in 92
I won't say that the Cholos gone completely in GTA VCS i don't know if it's a bug or glitch or something like that but when i completed the game of the PS2 version on a PC with a PCSX2 emulator i kept see them in Little Haiti. Btw the same thing is on PSP version i have see on some other YT videos who played that game that the cholo after the completed the game at 100% the cholos doesn't diapered completely.
@@Milty2001 So it's an actual glitch huh? Interesting i wonder if that kind of glitch/bug appearance on a real console PS2/PSP. I think we would find out only if someone have the PS2 or PSP version of the game GTA VCS and can or try to conformed that after 100% the Cholos actually diapered completely as the pedestrian and his car from the city.
Is it possible to reach out to you regarding what my friend and I found out about Molly Schultz from GTA V? Apparently the game's writers may have made her an oblique reference to a character from the American Girl doll franchise named Molly McIntire.
Will defo be surprised if the Vercetti gang makes a comeback in GTA 6 as it'd be 40 years after the events of Vice City and due to the death of Ray Liotta (Voice of Tommy Vercetti) aswell as bad blood he had with Rockstar.. there won't be a Tommy Vercetti cameo (unless he is referenced somewhere) and without Tommy, there's not a high likelihood the gang will still be around.
Brother could you do an videos about gang that was removed from the beta version of all gta games and the removed weapons from Gta Games in the future An Big Fan from India 🇮🇳
The Sharks were the toughest gang to fight. They were a group of yuppies, who could afford to use superior weaponry. I don’t think the pics in this video were the right guys.
The Sharks in VCS were some tough MFers. They spawn outta nowhere if you attack their businesses and shoot their SMGs as fast as minguns. The ones in VC are weaker, basically only doing street level crimes like the Cubans and Haitians.
I love Rockstar’s innovative and interactive games but personally can’t connect with anything that isn’t in the 3D universe. I know it’s ambitious but I hope they give us a San Andreas stories 😔
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As far as Grove Street Families go, it doesn't sound like they were necessarily killed off. It sounds like they were the more smarter and wiser and conservative gang, and I would assume a lot of them probably moved out of the hood and got better lives, because I know they were also heavily against the drug trade too, unlike all of the other gangs. Just my thoughts.
By the end of gta 3 all gangs in that city suffered a huge loss....all bosses in 3d Universe are dead...so this severally weakened all gangs....leones became extra hostile and cautious towards Claude since Tony became their boss.... colambian cartel also lost their boss...but they are not completely vanished...all the gangs in the end of gta 3 didn't vanish, but thriving hard for their living...
My theory is that CJ did exist in the HD Universe but doesn't have the same experiences as the CJ from the 3D Universe so hear me out umm so let's say HD CJ had similar experiences with the 3D CJ which means atleast 75% - 90% of experiences that CJ had in the 3D also occured in the HD I don't wanna be called a nerd but my theory goes like this when you start the game you visit your mom's funeral then CJ gets back into the gang life doing missions to support his family and homies while dealing with crash so the time he spent in Los Santos before his betrayal was similar to his 3D self so let's say the time he spent in Los Santos before his exile was around 85% - 90% so then after his exile the story from GTA San Andreas in the 3D Universe started to break down but still the HD CJ robbed stores with catalina maybe since Flint or Red or Whetstone county doesn't exist in the HD Universe so CJ robbed banks with catalina most likely in Blaine county or the mount chiliad area and after catalina left to go with Claude after the race HD CJ would go on to continue his journey and since we don't know if Claude existed in the HD Universe let's say that catalina went with a random mute guy and after the race the random mute guy gave his garage in San Fierro to CJ and then CJ would go to continue his journey from the HD Universe version of San Fierro cuz most likely there is a San Fierro in HD Universe we just don't know where it is located so CJ's journey went from San Fierro to Las Venturas so CJ started his garage in San Fierro and CJ would also work with the triads working against the mafia and HD CJ would also go on to steal a jetpack in area 69 and he would also start his casino I could keep going on and on but the one thing and one thing only that CJ didn't do was return to Los Santos which left Grove Street to get raided by the ballas so there was a CJ in the HD Universe but we never played his story this CJ I am talking about exists within GTA 4 and 5 and some events caused him not to return to Los Santos that's probably cuz his brother got killed in prison or let's say his brother got a life sentence and after either of those 2 events occuring it was hard for CJ to make a return so that's what could have happened to CJ in the HD Universe then in GTA 4 we can see a billboard CJ posting as a rich man wearing a tuxedo and hat which means CJ could have became a rich business man in the HD Universe like he did in the 3D Universe and he most likely went on tour with madd dogg after the events of San Andreas in 1992 so that's why Grove Street Families doesn't have Grove Street anymore and there is still tags in Los Santos in 2013 of Grove Street Families similar to the areas where CJ use to spray paint
Why is the Families bought up in this video?? Its been states many upon many times that GTA 5 and SA take place in two completely different universes. Any mention of CJ is just easter egg…
I tell ya, i will never in a million years understand the backward ass logic Rockstar has used to justify not letting events from other universes exist in more modern ones. Like, you really dont want to add references and cameos into your games like that?
@@CouldaWouldaShoulda That's really just more cause to let the events of previous universes exist in the most recent universe. By confirming in say, GTA V that say, Tommy existed and may still be alive, they can build a bridge toward GTA VI. The existence of stuff like, say, the end of GTA III, or the Caligulas Heist of GTA SA within the HD universe would go a ways toward making the world of GTA feel even more fleshed out.
We'll never see them because Cockstar have destroyed them and we'll only relive our childhood by playing the previous gta games cause gta 6 is gonna be no comment.
It's kind of sad that vic vance's story isn't continued at all, he was one of the most underrated character in gta.
Yeah uh...kinda blows when you get killed during a drug deal and all. But hey, at least we got GTA Vice City Stories to explore the before of that
True, but they couldn't really continue it cos he was killed in another game at a time when Rockstar didn't even think about creating a prequel one day
@@gaminginvestigators Bingo
The way Vic went down in the deal with Tommy makes me believe that he was the main target, possibly because they were doing the deal behind Diaz's back, or Diaz saw how much of a threat he could be and took him out, unknowingly unleashing Tommy's wrath.
He could have legitimated all his business and leave the criminal world instead of listening to Lance. With all the money in his pocket it should be enough to last him a lifetime@gaminginvestigators
Fact is, Lance was the reason Tommy Vercetti had to crush Diaz when he did.
Lance managed to screw up an assassination attempt on Diaz, Tommy being the standup guy he is (for a crime lord) rescued Lance and made sure Diaz wouldn't live long enough to regret it.
He still would have done that. Remember in the intro Sonny Forelli said they will send someone down to build bussiness for them and carve them a "nice slash of action", so regardless of Lance or even the drug deal in the intro not going bad, Tommy would still have to take over the city for Sonny and given his attitude Tommy would still hold the grudge and kill Sonny.
Exactly.
@@RhodesianSAS-gn4qpHe eventually would've taken over, but Lance botching the assassination attempt massively accelerated the timeline for that.
Lance's stunt certainly sped up the process, but Tommy was planning to do that anyway, even regardless to the fact whether he was the one to mash up the deal. Tommy just wanted to take over and since Diaz was the king then, he had to get rid of him in order to do that
@@gaminginvestigators Oh 100%, Tommy was going to screw Diaz over, but thanks to Lance, it was an uphill fight that didn't need to happen.
Lance later screwed up, by not handling business the way he should have with the security company.
I'm honestly glad you got to put Lance in the ground in the end.
Love how you always refer to the protagonist as the "invincible psychopath"
I think it's stupid asf
Well, it's true ain't it? 😅
Its true until somebody else becomes the player character which makes them fat and weak @@gaminginvestigators
That mad lad Toni Cipriani. Destroyed two gangs, and nearly got the Yakuza too. They would have fallen too if it wasn't for their own CJ, Asuka.
CJ worked with the SF triad's not Yakuza lol Claude was the one who worked with the yakuza
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I can bet that Sindacco Crime Family is no more active in 3D universe.
Sindacco appeared in SA, when they were sabotaging Woozie's Four Dragons Casino. CJ basically eliminated all Sindaccos in Las Venturas. And that's was one of the reasons why Leone family took over Caligula's Palace.
The leones and the forelli family invested in the casino but when cj robbed it they all left to liberty city, the sindaccos were the ones that owned the casino
@@Milty2001 before CJ robbed it, it was shared between Sindacco, Forelli and Leone, with Rosenber as a neutral middle man, basically a figurehead. In few missions before the heist, CJ damaged them significantly, with the final blow struck during Rosenberg's mission, as it turned out the guy CJ took for a ride on the hood of a car was Johnny Sindacco, who died to heart attack the moment he saw him in the meat processing facility.
@@XYZ-eo8um true
I mean Sindaccos were still weakest but got power in Liberty City during LCs. But after death of Paulie Sindacco, the guy that Toni killed in LCS. Remaining of the Sindaccos or what left of them moved back to Las Venturas(this is why we don't see them in GTA 3)
There's the whole thing about 3D and HD games being in different universes and all, but my head canon is that what really happened after 1992 was that Sweet ended up being somehow killed by another gang (maybe even by a different Families group, like the Seville Boulevard or Temple Drive sets, as Big Smoke said that there was some bad blood between them) and then CJ realizes that he's already lost two siblings to the streets and didn't want to end up the same way, so he decides to leave crime, becoming legitimate and working on his legal businesses, his garage and car dealership in San Fierro, casino in Venturas and even becoming somewhat famous as Madd Dogg's manager, maybe even becoming a rapper himself (remember the Fruntalot ad in Middle Park East in GTA IV). After that, Grove Street Families fell and Grove Street ended up being taken over by the Ballas. I always thought of CJ as a guy that wanted to make it out of the hood and dream big, but had someone who kept pulling him back into it, same as Franklin and Lamar in GTA V. CJ himself tells Sweet that a few times. And that's what Franklin and Lamar claim, that while some of the GSF members could be dead, others have become CEOs.
Grove Street Families may have renamed themselves as simply The Families after that set went under
@@asais1024 But that is what happened. The Families are still divided in sets in GTA V (Chamberlain Gangster Families, Carson Ave, Forum Drive Gangsters). The GSF are just the OGs, the first set, they're over. "Families" is the gang in general, and it's still around.
@@antoniocardoso2483Maybe davis neighborhood families is a continuous of the GSF I believe the leader and ogs quitted gang life style became like franklin in vinewood hills and leave the homies in hood to die off the remaining escaped to form davis neighborhood families and grove become a gone thing
@@antoniocardoso2483They even have an og boss for the gang they are named as oc balla boss in director mode but my experiences they always show up in fam turf and never davis or grove which was balllas turf and those og bosses help fellow fams in fights so it is rockstar mistake to make them as oc balla boss
@@asais1024nah families is the whole gang name consists of 4 sets (used to be 5 if you include GSF) like grove also have Seville fam and temple fam who was all apart of GSF just they got civil war and two of.them went away but reunited late in SA
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They predicted the GTA Online Lamar and Franklin DLC
True, I mean with such an ambitious, responsible and modern-minded person as Lamar on the team, there was no doubt at any point that they were heading to the top xd
I don't know if this is a truth but I think that Yardies, Vercetti's Gang, Groove Street, Leone and Yakuza still existed right now (Vercetti's Gang proves that they're still active on Vice City according some writing from Ken Paul himself back in 2002)
3D Universe story ends in 2008
Vercetti Gang was still in power in 2002(Confirmed in Kent Paul's website)
The Families were active in 2004(confirmed in Maccer's website)
Leone Crime Family,Yakuza,Yardies are still active after the end of GTA 3 story, however weakened due to loss of It's leaders(Salvatore,Asuka and Kenji) or in the Yardies case the loss of It's main operation(Spank Dealing)
@@mr.andrew7820 vercetti family sounds wayy cooler imo but too bad tommy abandons that way of life in vc
Would make sense, if not for Rockstar inexplicably severing the ties between universes
Let's be honest. No matter if we consider same or different universes. In-game happenings are enough to explain why we don't see a certain character or even a whole gang in a next installment. And that dialog on 11:53 almost descibes CJ.
I always wanted to know what happened to Zaibatsu Corp from GTA 2. They were by far the most powerful gang, but they just kind of disappeared. Other gangs like the Yakuza come back in GTA 3, even El Burro from GTA 1 comes back in GTA 3, but the only reference to Zaibatsu in GTA 3 is a commercial for Zaibatsu Pharmaceuticals, which was their front operation to make them appear to be a legitimate business. With other gangs in the first 2 GTA games it's pretty easy to fill the blanks with what probably happened, but Zaibatsu, the most powerful GTA 2 gang, just fell off the face of the Earth with no explanation.
@@josephr4761 well gta 2 takes place in 2013 no? maybe they were barely on the rise during 2001. ,(if you dont count the separate universe's)
Also, how could an hillbilly crew die down with the death of their Elvis-impersonating preacher? Even more considering how stubborn they are?
True, they kind of abandoned this gang leaving barely any trace, now instead we got Maibatsu car company that bans motorcycles claiming that they're too dangerous so they can make more money selling cars xd
@@gaminginvestigators Crappy gen alpha shill imo
Zaibatsu may only take over in the future, GTA 2 most likely takes place in 2013, so in GTA 3, in 2001 it is only a Pharmaceuticals company that expands it's operations later, possibly after the GTA3 story as Claude pretty much weakens every gang in Liberty. In Beta screenshots of GTA 3 you can see Zaibatsu posters that are not in the final game.
Maibatsu may be a separate company or a branch of it, since they specialize in cars.
An oddity is that in GTA 5 the Z-Type, based off the Zaibatsu gang car in GTA 2, has it's story rewritten in the HD universe to be a 1920s car, is manufactured by Truffade not Maibatsu or Zaibatsu.
if I remember the 3d/hd differences were phrased in such a way that basically implies that same things hapoened, same people exist, the protagonsits and other important figures of 3d universe won't appear in hd
a bit like Halflife and portal being in the same universe but otherwise have little to do with each other
It can be assumed that while Victor and Lance Vance were away from Vice
City, Ricardo Diaz took over their business and became the most
powerful crime boss in Vice City.
R.I.P. 3D Universe, you are missed dearly.
I remember that "The Sharks" on GTA Vice City, they had a Van and in that Van there was a stuffed toy with a mask attached, I don't remember if it was on the bumper or the lights on top, but was it inspiration for Trevor's "lover" doll that is put in his car in GTA 5?
They did but in 3D universe which is the best anyways
That may be in Vice City Stories as they are only called The Sharks in that game, in Vice City they're called the streetwannabes.
@@asais1024 it was in Vice City because I have the memory of seeing it in the game, and I didn't play the stories that much, you know?
@@MisterBig-10 The car with the bear do exist in VC you are correct. Played the game last month.
Forgot to mention that Sindaco's had some businesses running in Las Venturas. However theat got shut down by CJ after they continued to mess with CJs business partner, Wu Zi. Which I imagine contributed to the Sindacos downfall.
I have never heard you talk about gta v. Glad to know we feel the same way about it.
There's a few other gangs that got wiped out too. The White Stallionz were a biker gang separate from Big Mitch Baker's biker gang in GTA VCS,they appeared in only one mission and got wiped out by Vic. In GTA LCS,Tony wiped out another biker gang,the one led by Wayne that appeared in a few missions.
Love how he called claude an invincible psychopath!
Families are still around, it’s just in different part of the multiverse.
In GTA V storyline, the Gang to which Franklin was attached to ( Chamberlain Hills ) seems to be a part of the Families from what Franklin and Lamar says during some mission and the members wear green clothes and have green cars
@daki7070 They are Families, however while in San Andreas / 3D Universe entire gang itself is called the "Grove Street Families", in GTA V / HD Universe, GSF is only a single set of the Families gangs, with Franklin & Lamar being specifically "Chamberlain Gang Families" (CGF)
they obviously exist. they just no longer have control of grove street in the hd universe
@@mayonyannaise1777 the gang itself is NOT called grove street families
The Families in GTA 5 may have been originally called Grove Street Families but may have renamed themselves after that set went under. Franklin is born in 1988 so even if you merge the 3D/HD universe he may have been a small kid when Grove Street went under and not aware of the original name.
Groove street didn't even look the same they should of kept the original neighborhood of groove street
Shame non of the gangs from Gta2 didn't make it into the 3D worlds
Yakuza,Russian Mafia, Zaibatsu(mentioned)
I remember in the psp version i had a weird bug in vcs where the cholos spawned in little Haiti after taking over their turf, and it got me wondering what if the ones that managed the business disbanded the gang and left vice city while the ones that were in little Haiti joined the los cabrones in 1986
ain't cholos mexican tho ? lol may be wrong but isnt the other gang cuban? idk I believe they are different from each other culture wise
Either joined los cabrones or got pushed out by the emerging Haitian gang which only appeared in Vice City '02.
The Cholos leftovers joining the Cubans? Interesting, however as one person already stated in their reply, I think the fact that the cultures were different would not allow that to happen
Heck i even saw 2 Ballas members spawn in San Fierro (driving a Tahoma) in San Andreas
bro don't forget most of los santos was owned by grove street after the end of the line mission, cause the ballas went broke lost more ammunition cause of the lack of money to purchase them and more powerful weapons, cause in gang wars the ballas and vagos would have ak-47s and smg's but after the end of the line mission they would just have pistols and mac's, how do we know this, cause of the fact that without a business the vagos and ballas would go broke and would later on be destroyed by grove street members, who might be supplied by CJ with weapons, like the tec 9
Sonny and his crew need their own back story
2:19 is where he stops yapping
8:23, I’d like to think that Vic left Vice city at the end of the story & it was the 3rd brother Pete who got killed
I keep wondering about the San Fierro Rifa
Fr a gta in San Fierro would be so cool, gonna have a lot of social commentary and dirty streets
Bro I found your channel by someone uploading this video in parts on Tiktok. Do you have any accounts in that platform?
Ps: nice video btw
what Egyptian gorn i don't know it existed
once we get to gta 6 i have feeling that the lost will no longer be around espically after what trevor did to it
Are we still get references of what happened to sweet and his brother CJ not much about the other characters we even get a reference about the riots that happened back in 92
I won't say that the Cholos gone completely in GTA VCS i don't know if it's a bug or glitch or something like that but when i completed the game of the PS2 version on a PC with a PCSX2 emulator i kept see them in Little Haiti. Btw the same thing is on PSP version i have see on some other YT videos who played that game that the cholo after the completed the game at 100% the cholos doesn't diapered completely.
I had the same glitch as well when I played vcs on the pcx2
@@Milty2001 So it's an actual glitch huh? Interesting i wonder if that kind of glitch/bug appearance on a real console PS2/PSP. I think we would find out only if someone have the PS2 or PSP version of the game GTA VCS and can or try to conformed that after 100% the Cholos actually diapered completely as the pedestrian and his car from the city.
It's not a glitch. Little Haiti is their actual turf excluding the businesses.
Of course you're right, but I'm judging by their lack of presence in GTA Vice City
12:32 props for including Paweł Jumper ;)
The Triads and Colombian Cartel in GTA 3 were destroyed also. Arguably the Yakuza as well.
Triads ain't they are just damaged considerably with leaders dead but not compeltely down
You kinda forgot los varios aztecas fell shortly after grove street
Is it possible to reach out to you regarding what my friend and I found out about Molly Schultz from GTA V? Apparently the game's writers may have made her an oblique reference to a character from the American Girl doll franchise named Molly McIntire.
All GTA timelines are connected just in a different gamestyle
Man you've changed alot, you added a lot of sarcasm to your videos now. Micheal will be proud
So I take it it's a compliment? 😅
10:55 I’M SCREAMING 💀
10:55 😂😂😂😂
Lol, I'm literally replaying VCS and doing the same mission you are talking about at @3:30
I’m so confused to how Vic got so old between vice city stories and vice city
Dont forget tbe motorcycle biker gang mentioned grove street on gta 4
Will defo be surprised if the Vercetti gang makes a comeback in GTA 6 as it'd be 40 years after the events of Vice City and due to the death of Ray Liotta (Voice of Tommy Vercetti) aswell as bad blood he had with Rockstar.. there won't be a Tommy Vercetti cameo (unless he is referenced somewhere) and without Tommy, there's not a high likelihood the gang will still be around.
Brother could you do an videos about gang that was removed from the beta version of all gta games and the removed weapons from Gta Games in the future An Big Fan from India 🇮🇳
Forrelis still exist in GTA 3
Ya just weakened into the weakest gang they became brotherhood lost almost every territories and is the weakest gang in LC
Not gonna lie grove street in gta 5 doesnt feel like grove street because the gsf arent there anymore
Only guy that transcend 3d universe was lazlow. Possibly Kent Paul
Lazlow, Fernando Martinez, Chris Formage,Kent Paul,Love Fist,Madd Dogg,Og Loc,Jack Howitzer and Jock Cranley
the script tampering was gold.
The sindaccos are mentioned in GTA San Andreas
The Sharks were the toughest gang to fight. They were a group of yuppies, who could afford to use superior weaponry. I don’t think the pics in this video were the right guys.
The Sharks in VCS were some tough MFers. They spawn outta nowhere if you attack their businesses and shoot their SMGs as fast as minguns. The ones in VC are weaker, basically only doing street level crimes like the Cubans and Haitians.
I love Rockstar’s innovative and interactive games but personally can’t connect with anything that isn’t in the 3D universe. I know it’s ambitious but I hope they give us a San Andreas stories 😔
Didn’t mention the fact you kill Sonny forelli in vice city
0:13 there’s like more then 17 gtas not 5
Wut u mean?
@@胡飙-u2tgta and others like vc stories lc stories
Gta 1
Gta 2
GTA London 1961
GTA London 1969
GTA 3
GTA vice City
GTA San Andreas
GTA Advance
GTA Liberty Stories
GTA vice City Stories
GTA 4
GTA ballad gay of Tony
GTA lost and dam
GTA China Town wars
GTA 5
GTA 5 online
11:45 this isnt a valid explanation as its just an hd universe Easter egg..
awesome dude :)
As far as Grove Street Families go, it doesn't sound like they were necessarily killed off. It sounds like they were the more smarter and wiser and conservative gang, and I would assume a lot of them probably moved out of the hood and got better lives, because I know they were also heavily against the drug trade too, unlike all of the other gangs. Just my thoughts.
5:04 renniwasel marier moment
By the end of gta 3 all gangs in that city suffered a huge loss....all bosses in 3d Universe are dead...so this severally weakened all gangs....leones became extra hostile and cautious towards Claude since Tony became their boss.... colambian cartel also lost their boss...but they are not completely vanished...all the gangs in the end of gta 3 didn't vanish, but thriving hard for their living...
I swear this has more humor than before
What if them Purple N9ne gangs were actually Liberty City Baller gangs??
12:31 Polish TH-cam classic
Big fan from Nepal broo ❤❤🇳🇵🇳🇵
Glad you're enjoying the content : D
5:55 Tacos gang 💀
But.. what happened to the Varios Los Aztecas and the Triads in GTA SA?
12:31 DAMN PAWEŁ JUMPER IS ON THE VIDEO!!! POLISH MEME!!! PAWEŁ JUMPEEER!!!
TF? bro is overly hostile for no reason today, calling franklin a Bulbasaur was legit funny, but specifying african version😑.
Best part 9:44 😂😂😂
8:22 wait wait wait im having an fing Mandela moment here. That dude at the back aint real. He has never been hanging there. Whats that?
rockstar didn't promise anything. the fanbase does and when their predictions fail, they blame rockstar. the faliure of gta6 is close.
My theory is that CJ did exist in the HD Universe but doesn't have the same experiences as the CJ from the 3D Universe so hear me out umm so let's say HD CJ had similar experiences with the 3D CJ which means atleast 75% - 90% of experiences that CJ had in the 3D also occured in the HD I don't wanna be called a nerd but my theory goes like this when you start the game you visit your mom's funeral then CJ gets back into the gang life doing missions to support his family and homies while dealing with crash so the time he spent in Los Santos before his betrayal was similar to his 3D self so let's say the time he spent in Los Santos before his exile was around 85% - 90% so then after his exile the story from GTA San Andreas in the 3D Universe started to break down but still the HD CJ robbed stores with catalina maybe since Flint or Red or Whetstone county doesn't exist in the HD Universe so CJ robbed banks with catalina most likely in Blaine county or the mount chiliad area and after catalina left to go with Claude after the race HD CJ would go on to continue his journey and since we don't know if Claude existed in the HD Universe let's say that catalina went with a random mute guy and after the race the random mute guy gave his garage in San Fierro to CJ and then CJ would go to continue his journey from the HD Universe version of San Fierro cuz most likely there is a San Fierro in HD Universe we just don't know where it is located so CJ's journey went from San Fierro to Las Venturas so CJ started his garage in San Fierro and CJ would also work with the triads working against the mafia and HD CJ would also go on to steal a jetpack in area 69 and he would also start his casino I could keep going on and on but the one thing and one thing only that CJ didn't do was return to Los Santos which left Grove Street to get raided by the ballas so there was a CJ in the HD Universe but we never played his story this CJ I am talking about exists within GTA 4 and 5 and some events caused him not to return to Los Santos that's probably cuz his brother got killed in prison or let's say his brother got a life sentence and after either of those 2 events occuring it was hard for CJ to make a return so that's what could have happened to CJ in the HD Universe then in GTA 4 we can see a billboard CJ posting as a rich man wearing a tuxedo and hat which means CJ could have became a rich business man in the HD Universe like he did in the 3D Universe and he most likely went on tour with madd dogg after the events of San Andreas in 1992 so that's why Grove Street Families doesn't have Grove Street anymore and there is still tags in Los Santos in 2013 of Grove Street Families similar to the areas where CJ use to spray paint
I wish rock star could have made kendl and Cesar as the main characters of GTA 6 not Jason and Lucia
BALLA$ Run Los Santos & Always Did....😈👌 Ballas Up
Ballak
The editing of this channel has definitely been slipping up
Why is the Families bought up in this video?? Its been states many upon many times that GTA 5 and SA take place in two completely different universes. Any mention of CJ is just easter egg…
Could it be possible that Vic returned to Vice City to sell the coke was due to the economic crisis in Latin America of the 1980s?
he was always gonna sell it wether that happened or not
purple nines vs ballas
Buddy...thats a funny as hell that when you can see the confederation flags on Tralier Park Mafia members..didn't you call them Dixies like me?
I tell ya, i will never in a million years understand the backward ass logic Rockstar has used to justify not letting events from other universes exist in more modern ones. Like, you really dont want to add references and cameos into your games like that?
because it wouldnt make sense? if none of the protagonist exist then how would everything happen?
@@CouldaWouldaShoulda That's really just more cause to let the events of previous universes exist in the most recent universe. By confirming in say, GTA V that say, Tommy existed and may still be alive, they can build a bridge toward GTA VI. The existence of stuff like, say, the end of GTA III, or the Caligulas Heist of GTA SA within the HD universe would go a ways toward making the world of GTA feel even more fleshed out.
@@comettamer huh?
@@RadicalX101 it really is tho
Chill with the jokes man. It’s getting hacky.
Why tf is Chinatown Wars in HD? And why is Advanced in 3D?
Gta Chinatown Wars takes place in HD because It's story takes place there,being mentioned in gta 4 and vice versa
Sharks was worst . They will come and will became pain in ass
10:45
Gta 5 was a let down in my opinion. Gta SA was so great , i still play it on ps2, that everything else pales in comparison
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We'll never see them because Cockstar have destroyed them and we'll only relive our childhood by playing the previous gta games cause gta 6 is gonna be no comment.
Cockstar lol.
Find a real job