First look at the Viltrox 27mm 1.2 for Fujifilm.
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- In this video, I'll give my initial thoughts on the Viltrox 27mm 1.2 after a few days.
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Omar's wife, 'buy one more lens and you can go live at your mom's'.. Omar, 'Hi guys, here I am in my mom's guest room with the new Viltrox 27' 😆😅.. I was hoping this lens was gonna come out before my trip to the states in July, but alas, I had to buy the new Fuji 23 instead, happy I did though.. it FANTASTIC
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Too funny 😮😂...I'm like homeless with best photography kit ever ha ha..just kidding. Photographers love lenses don't we
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The 23mm f2 wr?
I think this is the only video where it truly shows how sharp is this lens.
Simple and straightforward! Thanks omar!
Omar, you're quite the traveler recently! Hope you're enjoying your time in Puerto Rico. Thanks for the thoughts on this lens and have a great week.
Perfectly timed, Omar! I’m looking for low light street-capable lenses for my x-t30ii and xh2s. 🎉 thanks for the review but the size…will wait until you do that 27mm f/2 video 😅. Cute pup btw!
I was down in Puerto Rico back in February. Beautiful island. Going back asap!
Hi Omar, I love your videos for some times now, keep that way it's always refreshing and positive.
One detail that is not a detail in my opinion : APS-C sensor does not gather less light than full frame.
An f/1.2 lens gather as much light on full frame or APS-C.
The only effect of a cropped sensor is the reduced angle of view.
That's why an equivalent to 50mm in full frame is 35mm in APS-C. As a consequence, a FF 50mm f/1.2 equivalent on APS-C is a 35mm f/1.2 (same angle of view, same light rathering capability).
But the diaphragm is not the same size anymore : 50 / 1.2 = 42mm, 35 / 1.2 = 29mm. That is this diaphragm diameter difference that makes APS-C depth of field deeper.
Most of the time, croppped sensor try to produce equivalent resolution as bigger sensor. And to do that, each pixel has to be physically smaller on the sensor (photosite). And that is why there is more noise on smaller sensor.
The key thing to remember when talking about depth of field, no matter the sensor size, is to consider the lens diaphragm size. A 300mm f/4 with a 75mm diaphragm will have more background blur than a 85mm f/1.4 with a 61mm diaphragm...at the same focus distance, of course ;-).
I took thousands of photos with XF35/1.4. I switched to Viltrox 27mm as my go-to lens in past weeks. I'm very very happy with it.
I bought the Viltrox 13 mm 1.4 and I have to say I’m very impressed with it I might consider this 27 mm as well before buying the 23 mm 1.4 WR.
I got mine a few days ago and love it! It has the full frame 40mm F2 look :) And on my X-S20 with a cage it is a beautiful clean video lens
Spoilers for your video!!!! Lol. It definitely impressed! Agree with the bokeh. Snobs that use the 105 1.4 will know.
Glad to hear your thoughts especially on the X-H1! I'm actually planning to get an X-H1 again as I loved that camera's handling and the IBIS would be nice for my recently acquired Viltrox 75mm. I'm probably getting this Viltrox 27mm too as I loved the 75mm for my weddings. Please let Viltrox know about the AF jitter! Hopefully they'll release a firmware update to get things better!
Actually looks like a FF 1.8, which is insane for a crop sensor camera. It means even shooting not so close scenes, it creates this 3dish elegant background separation without being too exaggerated 🤩
Nice setup and lenses
Just received my copy and I love it already. My two favorite lenses now are the V75mm and the V23.
Can confirm the anti-fouling coating works, my chickens hate it.
Does that mean it's at the top of the pecking order?
Been watching your videos on Fujifilm...Thank you!!
I've been using their 23mm f1.4 for ideo for the past few months. it's a fantastic lens with gorgeous IQ and background blur
Just a small correction, the size of the sensor does not actually change the exposure. F1.2 lens on APS-C is going to give you same exposure as on full frame. The better low light performance of full frame is due to better high ISO tolerance.
Yup… I wince every time,some photographer postulates what Omar repeated.. it’s about light per pixel, and for larger pixels there’s a difference, but not for larger or smaller overall sensors directly
It is not about less light! It is about less information. Sensor wise! The 27mm photo will be a cropped eq of a fullframe 27mm. Lets stop this nonence!
@@kosmidts in terms of a photograph, what you write makes zero sense… light is information in a photo! It is about the amount of light collected per pixel, so the size of the pixel matters… not the size of the viewport (the whole sensor) of the collected sensor-array!
True that f/1.2 is f/1.2. Not true that FF is always going to provide better "high ISO tolerance". Since I've been editing files from both an XT3 and D810 lately, I can say they both break down in similar ways in "low light" indoor shots - softer, mushier, noisier. Turns out they have very similar ISO performance, despite the XT3 having "inferior" pixel pitch. I know that newer mirrorless cameras raise the bar in terms of ISO performance, but 1/3rd-1-stop better performance is pretty moot, IMO. Long story short, crappy light is crappy light. If you're going to shoot in crappy light, you are going to get crappy photos. BTW-the Sony A7RV has the same pixel pitch as the XT3, and beats it in terms of ISO performance by about 2/3rds of a stop. Something besides the size of the photosites is contributing to that performance, and it isn't sensor size. I'd like to see ISO performance improve a lot more because I don't find it THAT outstanding, but I guess the big companies are obsessed with resolution.
@@matt88169 Yeah, that was just generalization on my part. The 26mp X-trans sensor has pretty good high ISO performance, even for a crop sensor.
I appreciate that Viltrox is making Pro glass that goes against the notion that fuji = tiny and unprofessional (in the eyes people that don’t know any better). I personally love the size. Fits perfectly with the XH cameras. We have a lot of shooters that came to or use fuji for the money and the size savings but don’t care for the super tiny equipment. Nothing wrong with them, but they just aren’t for everyone. I personally prefer lenses that are bulky and well built while not being too small like some fuji lenses or too large like most canon pro lenses (which are literally canons lol).
Overall, I’m just happy we have all of these options that suit numerous types of photographers. What a time ✅
Great new option. As have 27mm f2 voigtlander and still the 27 2.8 fuji, I'll pass for now, but Viltrox are up there in some cases surpassing Fuji's own lenses in terms of build and IQ. I have the Viltrox 13mm and 75 mm and love them both, 2 lenses for the price of one Fuji! Haven't seen the retail price but guessing £450 , 500 dollars mark?
@@timblass4811 I don't think the Viltrox pro glass stands a chance against the latest generation of Fuji f1.4 lenses but regardless they present better value.
@voorachter2733 We'll have to disagree. I have the Fuji 18, 23 and 33 1.4s and the Viltroxes are the equals of them all from firsthand experience.
@@timblass4811try to shoot at difficult lighting conditions with the Viltrox 😎
Thx omar. Just like the 75mm this looks promising... I still don't know if it is just too
sharp for portraits. But anyway I need to check that out. Wish you and your family a good time at your mom's place
Omar, Omar, I like the videos from Omar! ⚡❤
Viltrox seriously makes some great stuff. Exciting to see what they're doing with this Pro line, because their affordable, not-technically-pro lenses (and adapters!) have been terrific for a while now. All that, while making lenses compatible with like half a dozen lens mounts.
Glad they are providing options for sure!
Thanks Omar, great video. I just took delivery of the 75mm f1.2, glad I’m not the only one who battled with the Viltrox box 🤬🤣
I just got this lens! Shooting with it next week :)
Voigtlander have released a (manual) 27mm F2 pancake, but doesn't seem to be picking up many reviews at all. Would love to see someone give that a go against the TT Artisan, Fuji pancakes and maybe something like this for the fun of it.
Availability of voigtlander lenses in general isnt great, for any of the mounts they make lenses for
Thank you for testing lenses on the XT20, i have the same
Do you recommend the ttartisan 27mm 2.8 or Fuji XC35 MM F2 at the same price?
love the “struggling to unbox” footage 😂
The image quality of the pictures Omar showed looked good; sharp resolution, nice rendering. I'd be curious to see how they look from the higher res Fuji camera sensors, eg the X-T5.
Looks like a very good lens but I'm very happy with my new 33mm/f1.4 which to me sits in that sweet spot you've alluded to. Yes, it's not 27mm, but 33/f1.4 is so good I don't need to be looking for that middle ground now. While the 35/1.4 weighs 187g and the Viltrox 27/f1.2 is 560g, the 33/f1.4 has very friendly 360g 😉👍
50mm f2.1 or 40mm f1.8 , none of these are particularily exciting focal range to aperture ratios, might as well get the lightest one.
This new “Pro” line of lenses from Viltrox seem outstanding! I have the 75mm and it’s incredible. In my opinion, it would be incredible even at double the price. Practically zero CA too.
I have it too. Ageeed it’s almost Canons R 1.2 levels of good for 1/4 of the price.
Impresionante!! 😮😮
I love your tone in this review! 😊
Did they confiscate your medication in customs? 😅
Omar, the godfather of photography on TH-cam. 😅
Holy moly you’re using the xt-20? Love that little guy. I’m still using an xt-2 😅
Gonna add that 75mm to my wishlist. 😅 I have the 23mm and it is really sharp with very fast AF even on videos. Nice bedsheet btw 💮🥀
Thanks Omar. This is my favorite focal length and I am really tempted... however, the other side of me is saying the weight seems too much for a 27mm focal length, even at f1.2.
Exactly! The appeal from apsc is having great image quality in a smaller form factor, this is a full frame sized lens…and a big one at that!
Over-engineering. That’s why the great image quality.
Looks like okay lens Until next video OMaar!!
I own the new 23 f/1.4 which is so far the best lens I ve used but for those who did not buy it I think the viltrox is a considerable option
Check out voigtlander ultron 27mm f2, it's a new pancake manual focus lens fron them. Love shooting with it paired with my x-e2 using zone focusing, literally turning them to p&s camera
Doggy trying to ignore you, loved the sideways glance 😆. Just bought a 23mm f1.2. love it so not going to seek this one but looks good
I know!!!! He’s like ‘whatcha doin?’
i already want this lens. Gonna be some video on my channel later 😍
I really want their 16mm 1.8 for the Nikon Z! Viltrox seems good from what I’ve seen!
Hi Omar! Cool Video! Will there be a follow up, sort of deep dive review?
there should be. Gotta get out there.
is there much chromatic aberration all the way down at F1.2/1.4?. i know some of viltrox's other lenses suffered from abit of it
i am buying xt-20 since 2017 when you appear, i am gonna get my lens now, get this new or used 33mm f.1.4 for nearly same price??
and does this lens feel front heavy on xt-20?
can you compare the video quality of this pro lens between the fuji LM lenses xf23 or the xf33 f1.4 LM WR
Greeting! Could you please make a video comparing the Viltrox 27mm 1.2 and the Sigma 23mm 1.4 for video recording? Or tell me which one is better for Fuji X-t 4. I'm a videographer and I'm not sure which of these two lenses to buy for video recording. Similar focal length, but I prefer the bokeh on the Viltrox. It seems to me that both lenses have a problem with autofocus for video and with focus breathing. Can the new firmware fix this problem? Thank you!
So sweet how you talk so quietly to not bother people in the house I guess? :P
Between this Viltrox 27mm f1.2 and the Sigma 18-50mm f2.8, which one would be better for travel photography with minimalist packing (landscape, citiscape, street photography)?
Thanks and I am attracted to this lens - the alternative is the more expensive Fuji 33mm. I'm an X-Pro2 user and don't do video on the camera, so this is a toss-up. Viltrox less expensive but bigger, Fuji "warmer" images ... ?
Happy to use the big glass if someone makes it. But I’m ALSO wanting a couple more AF pancakes @f/2 or, better yet, a modernized kit lens that doesn’t miss focus so often! I love/hate that lens for what it puts me through.
Check out voigtlander ultron 27mm f2, love it with my x-e2
I think he specifically means AF pancakes which I agree…more focal length pancake lenses! F2s would be great; just picked up the 27mm tt artisans and it weighs next to nothing
Would you get it with a Z mount for your Nikon?
I wish they made this 1.4 and kept it small and light 😢 Still amazing addition to X-Mount BUT while it triggers my G.A.S. its waaay too big and heavy for me. The 1.4 LM WR lenses were my reason to switch from full frame. I enjoyed sonys 40mm 2.5 which had plenty bokeh for my needs and would love to have a 27mm 1.4 LM WR
Same struggle when i unbox my Viltrox 75mm F1.2. They are really serious about the packaging.
I wanted to see more of Puerto Rico!
This summer at a wedding I felt in the pool with my X-H1 and 50-140mm (totally under water), left it drying (no rice) for one week and still working fine 🙂
The cinematic footage of the your family’s dog 🤣 Well done, coming to a multiplex near you.
In 70mm IMAX
@@ogonzilla Yessss! Your dog, your bird footage. Animal lovers and your fans will definitely fill the theater.
Did you ever compare the 12mm Samyang to its AF brother? Would be interested in you thoughts
Any idea when the sigma 23mm 1.4 is coming?
Got me one three months ago. Really like it so far. Although I have to say it doesn't really balance well on the X-T4. It's happily living on my X-H1 though :) How's your experience so far?
I could not help but notice you switched watches during filming 🤣
The dog is beautiful 😊
Thanks!
You said right. We are into Fujifilm (I would say the majority of us) because of the size. We need more pancakes.
Thanks for the mini review. I feel a bit gassy!
Can do you a comparison video with the fuji 33 1.4
How would you compare it to the sigma 30mm?
How is it compared to sigma 30mm f1.4
I’m pretty happy with the TTartisan 27 2.8 for its size and price…. Images look good to me
I don’t think you can beat the value, the Fuji version just isn’t good enough to justify the price difference I don’t think
I haven’t shot wide open in a long time. I always stop down to f4 maybe this will bring me back
We liiiiiiiiike 😮
Viltrox is on fire 🔥
Nice bedspread review. Lens looks awesome. Nice focal length. Too sharp?! If I had a cat I'd call it Viltrox.
That looks exactly like my mums guest room too :) Classic Styling
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X-T20 is your favorite camera? That's great to hear: I just bought one to upgrade from my X-M1.
How much? Definitely caught my attention
Lovely lens, though it might run off with my wife - it's filthy effective! Only its weight and lack of linear motor stop me changing my Fuji 33mm f1.4 to it. (I know the Viltrox's stepping motor still autofocuses really well - but just not quite as crisply in Continuous autofocus mode, apparently, which is a mode I use a lot).
Well, I also simply want to learn the 33mm (50mm equivalent full frame) as it's a classic focal length.
f1.2 is good but it only lets in about 36% more light than f1.4 (and has a lot of vignetting at f1.2), so it's not enough to bring me out in sticky, jealous nightsweats about f1.4 being the best my lens does. But there is some moisture persisting in the areas at the top of my legs and armpits.
they understand the FUJI AF so well, and still their speedbooster's AF i shit, I just don't get it haha.. Anyways, their latest lenses are just incredible! I'd love to see a Pro 56 1.2 from them as well, since Fuji's own lenses, don't offer good video AF, even the refreshed WR 56 1.2 still uses the old jumpy motors, and while I find the Viltrox 56 1.4 AF to be better then both the Sigma and Fuji lenses, tha lack of weathersealing is a deal breaker to me. Even tho I just recieved my Sigma 56 today, I'd totally change it to 56 1.2 Pro Viltrox if they decide to do one. I find the Sigma AF good so far, but having apeture ring like my Fuji 23, and better weather sealing will be nice!
what kind a car at 1:42?
How much of the 27mm frame lines does it obscure on the X-pro !? 😂
At f2 the lines per mm is the highest according to a lab test report.
i have the viltrox 13mm f1.4 and fuji xf27mm f2.8, i'm a happy camper.
Omar, you get the exact same light on a crop full frame or medium format f1.2 is f1.2, nothing to do with the opening depth of field changes, yes, but the same light cheers for all the great videos.
Well... You get the same light *intensity*, meaning e.g. 1 mm² on each sensor will receive the same amount of light. But as the area of the FF sensor 2.25x larger than the APS-C sensor, you (logically) get 2.25x the amount of light (number of photons) hitting the full image. That's why the noise is roughly 2.25x better on FF sensors. And you will experience a similar step going to medium format. In theory you should get same results if you shoot at comparable fov (1.5x focal length) and depth-of-field (1.5x f-stop) and use the ISO to compensate for the light loss. This is why e.g. F1.2 on APS-C isn't quite the same as F1.2 on FF. Light intensity, yes. Everything else, no.
You do not unfortunately. Tested. For the same exposure, the apsc needs a slightly higher ISO.
@@ogonzilla The sensor in a light meter is the same size as your cell phone, so your saying that reads light wrong? Your incorrect
I would love if Viltrox released a standard focal length around 33/35mm lens with that same f/1.2 aperture and sper rugged build. I could totally see myself replace my current Fuji glass (which is 23 f/2, 35 f/2 and 56/1.4 from viltrox again) with the 27/standard/75mm for my even work with my X-H1. Would definitely be the kind of glass that you don't replace for a good decede until the camera dies.
(now that I think of it, all the focal length from their pro line have been kind of "off" compared to the general prime focal length we get. They made a 40mm equiv and a 112mm equiv instead of the usual 35mm / 85mm (or 105). I could totally see them skip the 35mm lens do go for a 40mm lens (60mm equivalent). That would be fun a challenging to use I guess?)
Also I'd love for a company to come up with a small 18mm lens for Fuji. I've been shooting 28mm lenses for so long on my Nikon FX cameras that I really want to get one, but I'm a bit turned off by the softer characteristics of the older (and wayy slower to autofocus) 18mm f/2, and the 18mm f/1.4 is just too expensive for me. I'd love to see a company like Viltrox (or even 7 artisans? they showed they have the competence to do it with their 27mm f/2.8 AF lens) try to get a nice, compact and affordable 18mm prime (I don't care if f/2. or f/2.8 to be completely honest, either one I'd buy it)
Yeah, I was also thinking of a 40mm. There are a lot of classic 58mm lenses, particularly fast lenses. The old Carl Zeiss 58/2 Biotar (sharp wide open for a lens of its era), Nikon Noct, Minolta 58/1.4. A Viltrox 40mm kinda fits into that “tight standard” range, plus it’ll feel like there more of a separation in field of view from the 27 than a 33 would offer. The other thing is that it’d get a little bit more of the focal length working for it for compression and shallow dof, and sometimes that’s worth going for with a crop sensor lens.
40mm is also the focal length I want from TTArtisan for a new AF lens, but because I want them to copy the other famous 58mm lens-the Helios 44. Their 27/2.8 is almost as close as you can get to a vintage lens with AF, and making a 40/1.5 Biotar with extra swirly bokeh would be an interesting niche lens, not for everyone, but there are folks who’d want that combo of modern convenience and classic rendering.
I can understand the desire for an affordable but more modern 18mm, tho… a Viltrox Pro 20mm f/1.2 might make sense, but it’s not going to be small.
Man ever since I got the XF27mm I kept saying to myself "if someone releases a brighter version of this lens I'd instabuy it" but this is not what I meant... I know Voigtlander has one as well but it's just too much for a manual.
Try the TTartisan 25mm F2. Flat, Pancake, and costs $55
Viltrox seems like they're on a roll lately.
This would be great if they made this for sony full frame.I already have the 33 f1.4 for my Fuji so don’t need this…..but for full frame it would be sweet….
Omar, can you compare it with for example Nikon z 40mm f2 on full frame? In terms of bokeh, of course. Interesting to see the difference between apsc pro lens and cheap full frame which is almost identical, because 1.2 should has 1.8ish ff look.
Omg 😮
Viltrox for President! Omar for vice president 👀🙌🏾
Lol. Thanks for stopping by!
Why would people paint the tree green though?
I've been eyeing the Viltrox 27 F2.8 has a compact lens.. but that 1.2...
You confirmed my fear. I wonder if this lens won’t be backward compatible with older Xtran3 and Xtrans4 sensors. If this lens will always stutter to focus on my XH1 and XT4 then it’s not a good buy.
Just wait until the firmware is improved.
@@Getoffmycloud53 worried about this. I just bought the 27mm this week and it has serious AF issues compared to my Fuji glass. AF-C is completely unreliable.
@@EDHBlvdthis is not true at all autofocus is fine
@@ajphelps16 bro I OWN the lens. I’ve been using it on my X-T4 and the AF-C is not up to my Fuji glass. Chasing my kids around virtually all pics have missed focus. Compare that with my Fuji glass where 8/10 pics are in focus. This Viltrox is not “fine”. It’s needing FW improvement. It also hesitates when focusing, just like reviewers have talked about.
@@EDHBlvd I own the glass as well if I didn’t I wouldn’t comment and the lens is perfectly fine. Sorry got what sounds like a defective version maybe. But the kind isn’t fine it’s great tbh. In comparison to my 33mm 1.4 and my 24mm 1.4 just like reviewers have talked about
Pancakes!
Compare this to the Nikon z 40mm f2 on a full frame.
Viltrox, take my money
Omar, could you tell the minimum focus distance, please?
That is the one thing that frustrates me with the Fujifilm XF 27mm, the too long MFD.
Why are there so much vignettes in the corners?
Sorry Viltrox, but I think this video sold me on the 35mm 1.4, it's so tiny, I love it
7:25 no, we see you. You don't see us or do you? I feel observed 😰
Please don't judge us Omar!
The size makes it a problem for me. How do I sneak it back home without my missus noticing it 😂
I was interested as soon as I saw this thing announced, I love 27mm on APSC, and it seems like it'd pair great with their 75mm 1.2...
But I'm with you on size. Sigma's 90mm 2.8 would be great on Fuji. An 18mm F2 Mk II would be cool, or a 40/45mm F2 pancake.
I think a Nikon Zf with Nikon 40/2 performs better!
Beautifulcity scape pic.
I want.
You got gas bro lol, it’s alright, me too haha. Looking forward to your video on this lens