Best M Class Ships in X4:Foundations in 2024 (v6.xx)

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  • @sirdave_thegreat5477
    @sirdave_thegreat5477 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Best Trader 0:40 / Best Miner 3:30 / Best fighter 5:10 (final thoughts 13:55)

  • @orchard1990
    @orchard1990 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    id say when comparing M combat ships you need to stick to their subclass aswel, no point comparing a Thresher Gunboat vs a Cobra Frigate, should compare the Thresher to the Jian and Peregrin. And then the Hydra to the Dragon and Katana

  • @EmperorTyrael
    @EmperorTyrael ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Cobra is Frigate-class which mainly uses consumables like missiles and laser towers. That's why it can carry more missiles.
    Hydra is a Corvette-class which focuses on forward guns.

  • @akumasu
    @akumasu ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Gunboats should be compared with gunboats, Frigates with Frigates. Gunboats speed is secondary or even tertiary stat. Gunboats primary is turret firepower, then hull and shield and then speed. Its fleet support ship not interceptor.

  • @p5eudo883
    @p5eudo883 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I just got into X4, and your videos have been extremely helpful. I found the interface and some of the game mechanics overwhelming and confusing. So your content has made an immense difference in my appreciation for this awesome game.

  • @simonmoberg1661
    @simonmoberg1661 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Man, I still like the Dragon Raider as M class fighters, when they get close with all flaks it's fun to see the sky light up!

    • @steemlenn8797
      @steemlenn8797 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wish I could put laser turrets on the Boron ships.
      A fleet of 8 laser turret gunboats must be a nice lightshow!

  • @krivdaa9627
    @krivdaa9627 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    a more strange comparison is with Thresher.
    I can't understand why it's being compared to Dragon, when it should be compared to best-in-class gunboat - the Peregrine Vanguard. (There's no reason for a gunboat to be the player ship.)
    Let's make rules for a compassion.
    - we should not loose ships. Never.
    - gunboats should not be used for assaults' on Xenon sectors. Rattlesnakes do much better job in point-defense in target-rich environments. Two additional Rattlesnakes will do much better and safer job that 20 gunboats.
    - gunboats should perform great in OOS combat and at least decent in In Sector combat
    - we won't mod (at least - heavily mod) gunboats
    and PV really outclasses the Thresher.
    - First and most important: Thresher cannot be equipped with Boson Lances. So, it cannon be used solely for gate-keeping roles. A single K destroyer will cause losses in 20 gunboat fleet without Bosons in OOS.
    - Thresher has no advantage in shields (if TER Mk3 are used on PV). If you use green shield mod on PV - they will be virtually invincible. (remember: green shields mods are near mandatory, cause they are free to reroll on your warf. They use 1/1 components, so there is no cost implied to reroll, which gets you to +~20% shielding, and as this is a % bonus, the higher the base value was - the more flat advantage you get)
    - As Bosons really suck in In Sector - gunboats can rely only on turrets. And so for are vulnerable in IS.
    - Thresher arc turrets are great in In Sector.
    So as for me - a perfect gatekeeping fleet in 6.0 changed from 15 PV to 10 PV (Boson + Arg Flak) + 5 Threshers (Arcs). This composition obliterates anything in OOS and doesn't take a big punch in In Sector
    Frigates (like Cobra).. well, there's no point in them. Hangar for S makes no sense, as they don't repair ships. Gunboats do much better job. The only role is to be a heavy hitting torpedo boat.. but 20 Mambas will do much better.

  • @AndrewLabelle
    @AndrewLabelle ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love the Hydra, the agility makes such a huge difference for M class ship survivability.

    • @kohlrak
      @kohlrak ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And it looks amazing

  • @krivdaa9627
    @krivdaa9627 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Quite a strange comparison method.
    first of all - when talking of M's we should split between player ship and NCP ship
    if talking of player ship, IMHO only 3 options are viable
    - Katana
    - Kuraokami
    - Hydra Regal
    But to compare them - we should presume all of them
    - have best-in-class equipment (terran shields, split mk4 engines)
    - modded with purple mods with great rolls
    All 3: have enough shields to the point that hull strength does not really matter. You have enough boost speed to fall back from fight and recharge. no enemies can chase you.
    Katana is fast. Really fast. I mean 12km/s in travel and 1200m/s in cruise. But is bulky as hell. It's a good ship for questing (just moves MUCH faster, but as for me it's not as fun in dogfights)
    Kuraokami is VERY agile, but it comes with compromises. ~9km/s travel is a big loss. Firepower (despite having one more gun) - is worse. (I use TER Pulse on Kuraokami and proton barage on Katana)
    Hydra... it has AWFUL acceleration to travel. AWFUL travel speed. AWFUL weapons (only viable are the ion railguns, which even when purple-modded are really bad for dogfights). And after flying it I really couldn't find find its strong side. If you you are not ok with Katana's agility - Kuraokami will be a better choice overall.
    As for me - I gradually switched from Katana to Kuraukami.

  • @ZephyrusAsmodeus
    @ZephyrusAsmodeus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome, I'm glad I was onto something with my dolphins, only just started a couple weeks ago and theyve been my go-to for backround and personal trading.

  • @Selandr
    @Selandr ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Kuraokami feels much better than katana imo, would be comparing it against the hydra when I get time to play 6.0

    • @CaptainCollins
      @CaptainCollins  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I had the comparison filmed, but I didn't liked it and it wasn't adding anything good for "the best ships". It's an allrounder, decent, but there are better choices. Also: don't want to waste your time with a 30-minute video.

    • @martinhogan9745
      @martinhogan9745 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Kuraokami is definitely the best M class fighter. While I like the Hydra and will fly it quite a bit, nothing beats the Kuraokami for the combination of maneuverability, speed, tankiness, and firepower.

    • @inducedapathy1296
      @inducedapathy1296 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Prior to COH DLC nemesis was generally the goto M class. Kuraokami is a rebadged nemmy anyways. Katana is pretty solid as well. Jian or peregrine prolly my picks for turret boats. Thresher would be cool if I could use different turrets. Split stuff is generally good as well or player centric.

    • @egoaut
      @egoaut ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kuraokami is the best❤, but i prefer Dragon Raider. Hydra is a real beauty, but the maingun configuration is useless crap in "real" dogfight with more that 1-2 enemys.

    • @foxdoe7540
      @foxdoe7540 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The maneuverability of the Kuraokami leaves the Katana in the dust for me. It's so good it's in his own class.

  • @AaronStanczak
    @AaronStanczak ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the purr-poise sounds like a very confident cat

  • @Shinarock
    @Shinarock ปีที่แล้ว +2

    not to mention that Dolphin can use turret that slows enemy down :P

  • @KalisaFox
    @KalisaFox ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Personally love the astrid for allot of stuff as well, though like the hydra regal your greatly limited on how many you can get. the astrids laser turrets are actually reasonably stronger then L laser turrets, and if you throw on a shield regen mod you can get more shield regen then a baseline syn destroyer, its just not the most agile ship but it does have insane speed, survivability, and reasonable damage output, with a really solid cargo capacity, its like a suped up prometheius.

    • @kermitthefrog1176
      @kermitthefrog1176 ปีที่แล้ว

      and it looks so awesome with some paintjobs

  • @dusk1947
    @dusk1947 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the Hydra. Especially with the unique spin on Boron weapons being able to slow. I find it to work great in the intercept role. And is fantastic with a few fighters in tow.
    Though it's hard to pick a favorite. I still happily field Hydra's with the Katana & Kuraokami
    I did find the Thresher to be a bit to squishy for my taste, but I found that with alot of gun boats.

  • @neogoterra
    @neogoterra ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the hydra it gives the same feel as the vidar from X3, anything that it cant fight it can out run and anything it cant out run it can very much so out fight.
    And with careful flying and the right loadout it can take on most any enemy your end up encountering.
    The way the ion weapons in the turrets will allow you to effectively out maneuver ships half your size makes it one of my favorite space superiority vessels.

  • @Teiwaz111
    @Teiwaz111 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This list is a bit weird IMO - why is it based on the guide from Dec 2020 instead of the Jul 2022 version?
    Couple notes from me:
    - Dolphin is nice if you go for stock/faction only, more on the expensive side though (roughly 1.7x the price of a Demeter Sentinel). If you min-max or mix parts you have to go TER engines - they reach top speed in no time which beats anything for traders and miners, even if their top travel speed is rather low, it's average speed that matters. Also the big weakness of BOR engines, they take forever to reach their top travel speed - more useful for player piloted ships.
    - The Hydra is an insane OOS ship - if you equip it with those very expensive Ion Railguns (8.8km range! High damage. Also 1 million a piece...). A single Hydra shreds a XEN K to pieces easily, most of the time taking very few or even no hits at all. Can't handle being swarmed though.
    - Boron shields are awesome!
    - Don't use the Porpoise if you don't have to - IMO it's among the worst miners in the game, go Plutus instead, or go anything as long as it's not Porpoise or Bolo.
    - Did I mention the insanity that is the Hydra?

  • @darkshadow-saffer4768
    @darkshadow-saffer4768 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice comparison!
    While watching this I was wondering what would be the best OOS M class ship for reaction fleet? Guess one with the best hull, shield and dps combo?

  • @HupfderFloh
    @HupfderFloh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:28 maybe you want to reconsider your choice of words, but don't overthink it!

  • @IGhengisKhanI
    @IGhengisKhanI ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my favorite M-class ship by far is still the Nemesis Vanguard. equipped with split combat engines. 5 front beam emiiters MK2 and Terran shields and beam turrets. with all upgrades, it has like a 640 m/s top speed, i think close to 6k m/s travel speed, sturdy shields and good maneuverability.

    • @kajarslibrary5404
      @kajarslibrary5404 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would you use beam turrets? Those things are literally useless against anything but missiles.

    • @IGhengisKhanI
      @IGhengisKhanI ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kajarslibrary5404 so far, they seem to me the only weapon that reliably his enemy fighters.

    • @kajarslibrary5404
      @kajarslibrary5404 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IGhengisKhanI Hitting yes. Damaging, no. M Turrets in general are very bad and the ARG Flak is the only decent choice vs fighters, having the damage output and accuracy to actually deal meaningful damage to them.

  • @mldavis254
    @mldavis254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been using a Cobra with 2 Mk 2 pulse laser mains and a single tracking launcher (for EMT missiles) partnered with a Shuyaku stuffed full of marines for capturing capital ships. First time I capped a SCA Behemoth with this combination I was hooked, and followed it up with the same technique for a SCA Phoenix a few hours later. The EMTs are for the occasional stalking of pirate Minotaurs and Prometheus.

  • @JesDyr
    @JesDyr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Hydra is an amazing ship to use for capturing other ships both S/M and L/XL (need other ships to carry the marines)

  • @KaijuAKD
    @KaijuAKD ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I hate you can't set different default behaviors for civilian and military ships in cases of attack or pirate harassment. Once your empire grows big is a huge chore having to change behaviors ship by ship

    • @jaykay5838
      @jaykay5838 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed. I have just 1 station, and a few fleets and i'm doing the juggle, when my battle ships run from an attack. Even early game it can be annoying.

    • @Rhapses
      @Rhapses ปีที่แล้ว

      100%! I've been saying for a while now that they need to allow you to separate default orders for civilian and military ships as you want civs to run and Mil to fight. Hopefully one day we will get this.

  • @herczy
    @herczy ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a Hydra at the end of the Boron storyline and at first I just parked it somewhere, but after using it a bit, it quickly became my player ship. I just love the speed and the ion railguns.

  • @LameFox
    @LameFox 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Laser towers don't seem to distract enemies at all in my experience. They will continue attacking the trader until it dies then attack the laser tower.
    The main use I guess is if the trader can outrun the ship then it might be able to enter travel drive and the laser tower will keep knocking the other ship out of travel drive. But even that is limited by the fact that they only seem to drop one per encounter, even if you have dozens on the ship. A bit of a pity, like many things it could be good but just isn't quite there.

  • @axinite2545
    @axinite2545 หลายเดือนก่อน

    M class across the board are good for player use. It's a single player game against AI. Take whatever ship you want and have fun with it, whatever load out you feel like. Corvettes are a good balance, gunboats for relying on turrets and area control as an alternate play style, and frigates to give the player boarding options and if they want an s fighter to hop into from time to time or for missions.
    Now for fleets and taking over sectors, it is a bit different. But the overwhelming factor is that quantity matters more then quality also just means make quantity of whatever you want to make. And the other factor is that even if it's not most optimized/cost efficient ship use, the money in the game is not real, and money in this game comes faster then you can spend it. Even better if you have your own self sustaining ship building.

  • @WwarpfirewW
    @WwarpfirewW 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Personally I favour Nemesis and Gorgon/Cerberus for heavy patrol which can deal with anything same class and some destroyers, few Nemesises with different weapons to be ready for anything in coordinated attack and Gorgon with missiles or torpedoes to bring ultimate versatillity to fights, more torpedoes is just for any pillager destroyers and every time atleast some EMP or disruptor missiles to keep ships without engines. Then the fleet will just dance around any enemy until its gone, more nemies just add more ships lol, and with rockets its just a matter of time until flares runs out or smart missiles for intercepting fleeing targets.

  • @twistedpixel756
    @twistedpixel756 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Technically you can have more than one Regal, though you have to acquire it by capture through the venture beta.

  • @topkek4593
    @topkek4593 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For combat it's obviously the Jian with six Flak turrets, or the Cobra if you like boarding. Nothing beats Flak turrets :D

  • @teddp
    @teddp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The dolphin was the best trader also in X2 the threat back in the day. As of personal ships I prefer agile frigates better and not M-class Corvettes. Which of course you can take with you and use their turrets at the back of an Odysseus.

  • @Ygolnac
    @Ygolnac ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In my opinion the Thresher should be compared to the Jian. The latter wins in the role of being docked on L/XL ship to augment turret placement since it has 6 turrets on top, while the Thresher has 5. The Hydra should be compared to Katana and Kurokami, and in my opinion the thrre overlaps, differing only in little details, it's down to your personal preference. The Cobra is the best player ship becouse it still has it all. S docking, tons of hull and shields, tons of deployables, 25 crew, supergood hull and shield and very fast and agile. But it's another ship class.

    • @Yolo_Swagins
      @Yolo_Swagins ปีที่แล้ว

      Cobra is players choice, for all that you said, plus you can put almost any weapons on it.

  • @crimson5664
    @crimson5664 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if you cant point on a single best ship that means the balance is good

    • @CaptainCollins
      @CaptainCollins  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Someone that understands :) thank you

  • @Galdoren91
    @Galdoren91 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just can't part ways with my Nemesis Vanguard. It's my personal Rocinante.

  • @hydraxthefirst2361
    @hydraxthefirst2361 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Cap. Just wondered if you found the abandoned boron miner it was in top left of either watchful gaze or baron shores. Can't exactly remember which one. I found it on my first attempted play through. Then started again and it was still there. Not seen it mentioned anywhere.

  • @piotrkwiatkowski1406
    @piotrkwiatkowski1406 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man... Boron civilian ships are crap unless player drive them directly... On the paper they are fastest but there is hidden parameter (Travel speed attack) for each engine that says how fast they can reach maximum travel speed. And for Boron engine for example on Dolphin it is 42 seconds (For Boa with maxed terran engine is 4 seconds XD). Which means than in any normal situtation (Jumping from gate to gate) they will never reach even 1/2 of maximum travel speed... ;p Player pilot can eliminate this problem by speeding up with turbo thruster and then turn on travel engine with already built speed, however NPC pilot cannot do that. And you cannot install anything else then boron engine on Boron ship ;p

  • @sarahnachtrose
    @sarahnachtrose ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I guess for an open sandbox game like X4 Foundations to the question:
    Which is the best ship?
    The BEST answer:
    That depends on how and what you want to play.
    Translated:
    This means that the game is sooo balanced that it gives you all the options for the way you play and it. There is no absolute must have in the game to have fun.

    • @CaptainCollins
      @CaptainCollins  ปีที่แล้ว

      You got it! That's the reason it's so hard to recommend anything ultimately

  • @Just1Ace
    @Just1Ace ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Issue, the porpoise the boron miner only has mk1 mining laser so it takes longer than all the other miners, I've compared it to the drill and the Plutus for in system and short rang mining the plutus is king, in system the porpoise takes longer than the other ships and gets less

  • @wickedwzl7900
    @wickedwzl7900 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks, good and imformative.

  • @driftjunk
    @driftjunk หลายเดือนก่อน

    The difference in acceleration between Terran ships and the rest makes them faster than most ships even though they don't have the highest top speed.

  • @DaemonJax
    @DaemonJax ปีที่แล้ว

    The Gorgon can dogfight with ship mods. It kinda handles like a heavy fighter.

  • @antonstezhkin5991
    @antonstezhkin5991 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favourite is the dragon for 777mph speed and shield ignoring. It's great for approaching L and XL ships fast to disable them. But it lacks durability in combat against multiple m class fighters.

  • @Yama_1291
    @Yama_1291 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the update Captain!

  • @spudpud-T67
    @spudpud-T67 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Purpose is great miner if AI controlled but forget it if you are personally going after nividium as the forward facing wings reduce any visibility. You can't see squat.

    • @damianjames1606
      @damianjames1606 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@spudpud-T67 You can always toggle the cockpit off ;)

  • @bartermens8219
    @bartermens8219 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All ships feel kinda different. The dragon feels like a dragon that spews fire, get in fire and get out, almost the only ship that can kill a P in a head on fly by. Katana feels like a Ninja ;) You pop up anywere on the battlefield and choose your target. Hydra feels unkillable. Because of the great shields and mobility. And the Cobra just has too much usefull tools, it is like a Swiss Army knife. S Ship for resupply, S ship missions, lock boxes, faster travel. Rockets which allow it take out S/M/L ships pretty fast and even enough crew to board L traders. It is nice to have all these ships creating different fight styles. Even the Osprey is usefull with it's big hull it is ideal for out of sector combat.

  • @dmansail
    @dmansail 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The best action when the traders attacked by pirates is not what you said, is only if are attacked - not by pirates , by pirates if you set the response to wait, then when it happens and they trader informs you , pause the game after the wait order has been applied ,then go to map over the trader and delete the wait order. The trader will continue its route and until the pirate becomes hostile,your trader will be gone ......

  • @tovoklore6356
    @tovoklore6356 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Hydra is awesome and I personally found it to be tankier than the Cobra. As for the Dolphin, it has a faster top travel speed, but the acceleration is very slow which is very much something to consider. For short range hauls I would say just about any other M transport is better than the Dolphin.
    I can't wait for your thoughts on the L ships. I especially would like to hear your thoughts on the Sturgeon. I personally feel like it could use a bit of a buff to its travel drive acceleration as it is absolutely atrocious. I don't get to make use of its top speed very often because of it. It can literally take 2 sectors worth of constant acceleration to reach top travel speed.
    Going back to the Hydra, it seems that the creator of the VRO mod thought the Hydra's agility was too good, because I noticed it is not nearly as agile (or fast) in VRO. Made me kind of sad when I noticed this. Actually, all of the Boron ships agility got nerfed in VRO. That was one of the perks of the Boron ships so it kind of frustrates me. Oh well, its a mod.

  • @Army_of_Earth
    @Army_of_Earth ปีที่แล้ว

    Useful video, thanks. But its not entirely correct to compare gunboat, frigate and corvette. All of these classes have different purpose even though there is no restrictions on how to use them.

  • @Velerios
    @Velerios ปีที่แล้ว

    You forget the Terran Drives makes the Katana a better choice for in and out-fights. The Borons are faster, but it has such a long wind-up time that i rather have the Katana that i can turn on and go. That said, a Hydra with Terran drives would outpace all, sadly not possible without mods.

    • @-NB7979-
      @-NB7979- ปีที่แล้ว

      + The Terran weapon it can mount. The Proton Barrage is the best gun in the game imo.

  • @BauN3RD
    @BauN3RD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why are you comparing Frigattes with Gunboats?

  • @Raso719
    @Raso719 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd still love to see a video that outlines the different uses for Gunboats vs Corvettes vs Frigates. Their strengths and weaknesses and if/when they are worth using.

    • @EmperorTyrael
      @EmperorTyrael ปีที่แล้ว

      JK Ninja made a simple and easy to understand video about the differences between them. It's before the Boron DLC.
      Basically, Gunboats has a lot of turrets, Corvettes focuses on forward guns, Frigates can carry more consumables like missiles and laser towers.

    • @Raso719
      @Raso719 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EmperorTyrael I've seen that one, actually and understand the differenced. I'm just wondering where each class excels as far as where and when to deploy. I feel like Gunboats are objectively inferior to the other two (aside from the Jian and Boron) in nearly all deployments due to turrets being so low powered where as Frigates would be more useful if you could actually give them orders to maintain mine fields or to deploy their repair drones to fighters. Corvettes are basically big, bad ass fighters.

  • @boraonline7036
    @boraonline7036 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder why the Nemesis is not in this discussion, especially as a player ship?

  • @ArthurOseven
    @ArthurOseven ปีที่แล้ว +3

    for the algorithm !

  • @Aotearas
    @Aotearas ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How good are the Boron travel drives really? I haven't played X4 in a while, but I read that their travel drives have really, REALLY poor acceleration so they take a long time to reach max travel speed, i.e.: even with the travel drive spool up delay other travel drives reach their topspeed faster than the Borons.

    • @CaptainCollins
      @CaptainCollins  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, they miss acceleration, but they are okay.

    • @krivdaa9627
      @krivdaa9627 ปีที่แล้ว

      Horrible :( (for player). You will always need to boost-and-travel.

  • @MichaelCordeiro
    @MichaelCordeiro ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always, thanks!

  • @johnnyka870
    @johnnyka870 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    tbh the tresher can only be compared to the jian

  • @aptiryp2682
    @aptiryp2682 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still have a problem to find the right spot for an m class ship as a fighting ship. They are great for miners and traders, but I struggle to use them as combat ships. A group of S class ships is more efficient in many situations, at least that’s how I feel. At least when a npc is flying. And when I want to siege a station … well then, I use an L class. They are great as fast freighter and the main miners I used early in my game. Just my personal thoughts.

    • @kohlrak
      @kohlrak ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on playstyle. Take for example the split ship design: you have a bunch of weapons but you're squishy: your job is to overwhelm them with firepower before they shoot you. These boron ships look to be going for piloting: nimble fighters that appear to rely on good maneuvering for longevity. It would appear that the hydra shows this the most clearly: if you want to use an M in combat, you're trying to use it like a heavy S class, except you'll have a harder time hitting turrets. Think small raiding parties or carrier escorts. I'd take an M with around 4 S for escorts into battle, especially for scouting, dealing with small time invaders, police work etc. Watching this video i want that royal hydra with a 4 shih escort for some hit and run stuff against xenon sectors, as well as policing. It looks like a great way to fly around on my own without being as weak as squishy as an S and without being as sluggish as an L.
      Another way to think of them is how you think of Corvettes: they're heavy enough to fight as ships of the line, but they're also small enough to not being sitting sucks if you don't want to just sit there and hope you're not the next target they concentrate fire on. They're for when you're in command of the ship, rather than looking at the map from an RTS perspective. You can use this to take out an L or XL that doesn't have proper escorts so you can get into position and take out turrets then stay in their blind spots and slowly take them down as long as they don't get similar M or a bunch of S escorts: Do to an L or XL what the S does to the M.

  • @Jason-fm2dv
    @Jason-fm2dv ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wonder where can find info and your new updated video comes out :)😂

  • @guilleg2305
    @guilleg2305 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WAIT A MINUTE! You can set your ships to drop a turret and flee??!!!! How do you do that??? OMG life changing information!!!

    • @Archangelusbe
      @Archangelusbe ปีที่แล้ว

      In the ship info panel, there is a behaviour tab on the right. There you can set their default reaction to various things, e.g. found a lockbox, harassed by pirates, etc.
      One of the responses you can select is escape and drop a tower.

    • @dakotaadra1044
      @dakotaadra1044 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Archangelusbe Do the ships automatically resupply?

    • @Archangelusbe
      @Archangelusbe ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dakotaadra1044 I don't think so, but I haven't fiddled with automatic resupply yet. So you might be able to get them to buy new turrets if necessary.
      But even if they run out of turrets they will still run away.

  • @jacobliefeld9248
    @jacobliefeld9248 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Boron instant travel is worth FAR less than you make it out to be, especially on medium ships or smaller.
    Boron ships have the shittiest travel drive acceleration of all, and by a considerable margin at that. By the time you actually reach max speed, someone with Terran combat engines could get to max travel, stop, and get to max travel again a dozen times. It’s so bad that I basically disqualify any boron non-capital ship from my rooster unless it’s heavily modded to increase that acceleration.
    In my opinion, Plutus Sentinel with Terran travel or combat engines is the real best miner.

  • @Jovian999
    @Jovian999 ปีที่แล้ว

    I switched over from the Katana to the Hydra/R as a personal ship, and wouldn't go back. They're comparable in a lot of ways, but the Boron corvette has so much more personality. And I can't be dealing with box frigates like the Cobra, whose entire design philosophy has to accommodate an S-dock taking up most of its interior.
    I will say this: Hydra is superior on paper in a lot of ways but lacks the raw firepower of comparable ships. The Boron weapons are cool (I love the railgun in particular), but specialised. The Terran pulse lasers on a Katana are a more reliable option, especially in a fleet. I'll be trying the Kuraokami soon and that might occupy a nice middle ground.

    • @krivdaa9627
      @krivdaa9627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and why do you use pulse lasers on Katana? Try proton barrage - it's just a plain better option.

  • @eduardoborges506
    @eduardoborges506 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me the kuraokami will always take my spot as best M ship. Its the middleman between a hydra and a cobra. A better dragon imo Agility wise, it is still on par or very close to the hydra. However it has 5 weapons. It cant quite reach the level of shields the hydra has, but it can get up to 18k base whith mk3 terrans. Still a long shot from the hydra 26k. Base speed is higher though acceleration is in theory lower than the hydra. But you can put split mk4 engines on the kuro, which makes kuro objectively very fast. I could never fly katanas or cobras as a player ship, they simply lack the agility imo. Being fast will only take you so far. The dragon is a honorable mention, but i dont see a reason to fly the dragon when the kuraokami exists. At the cost of one weapon slot i get marginaly better agility, much better shields, better hull as well, same turrets and similar speeds. If you want to go guns all out sure the dragon is better, but i think the kuro strikes a perfect balance.

  • @TotalyRandomUsername
    @TotalyRandomUsername ปีที่แล้ว

    Were can i set a gobal default for dropping laser towers? I equipped all my ships with them and not a single one ever dropped one.

  • @Shinarock
    @Shinarock ปีที่แล้ว

    it does help that Boron ships look good 2 :D

  • @prastagus3
    @prastagus3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you give also grade them for PC ship vs NPC piloted ship as well?

  • @ReinisIkass
    @ReinisIkass ปีที่แล้ว

    Still have not tried Hydra. But Katana .. has never been my favorite - Nemesis or better yet Kuraokami are my choice.

  • @sasairsoftde
    @sasairsoftde ปีที่แล้ว

    On paper the Katana and the Hydra are probably the best M-ships, but when I fly those M-ships, my favorite is the Dragon Raider 😅

    • @eduardoborges506
      @eduardoborges506 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you like the dragon you will like the kuraokami. Its more balanced then the dragon while still having very good damage.

  • @Elle_V
    @Elle_V ปีที่แล้ว

    How many like me are waiting the finish of the update from GeForce Now?
    I'm crying from a day and this video is one of the best thing i could ask in this moment and for the information about fleet setting or ship using

  • @Wvk5zc
    @Wvk5zc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's so messy when you make and mix comparison of all types (corvette, gunboat, frigate) together instead of categorizing them

  • @Tpachal
    @Tpachal ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos.

  • @sentinelk9
    @sentinelk9 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you mean by instant travel speed? Do all boron travel engines jump you to instant travel speed? Is this only true for M class or all boron ships (because then it seems to beat out the terran travel drives since they charged the fastest)

    • @nickquejada
      @nickquejada ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All Boron engines don't need to charge to go into travel mode. They do need to accelerate for a while before reaching max travel mode speed, however.

    • @yaldabaoth2
      @yaldabaoth2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even XL class boron ships go into travel mode immediately, no charge time. Acceleration is not the best (terran is better) but for small jumps etc, the borons are amazing. Makes their capital ships that much more agile.

  • @викторкузнецов-и7ы
    @викторкузнецов-и7ы 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Капитан Коллинз, а вот мне нравится Немезида агрессор, у нее пять фронтальных орудий и две турели, и мой фаворит это куроками,и этого хватает с головой и на пиратство и драться даже с кораблями л класса

  • @FlorestanTrement
    @FlorestanTrement ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not sure how relevant it is, but a word about the hitboxes of the ship would have been nice, if only to say it is irrelevant.

  • @huffinLeeroy
    @huffinLeeroy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let's be real here...Hydra is sexy AF and even if it was the worst ship in the game, I'd still fly it.

  • @commandantmarechalkeitel5322
    @commandantmarechalkeitel5322 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thresher is better because of just that 8 turret

  • @cmdt.brezonte9023
    @cmdt.brezonte9023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, I like the Demeter Sentinel and for me it's better than the Dolphin

  • @atreus_falcorth
    @atreus_falcorth ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats the recommended loadout for the hydra?

    • @CaptainCollins
      @CaptainCollins  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2 Railguns, 2 Arc guns, Arc or ion turrets

    • @atreus_falcorth
      @atreus_falcorth ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CaptainCollins did you mean ion instead of arc?

  • @johnnyka870
    @johnnyka870 ปีที่แล้ว

    u missed 1 ship....

  • @dmitriyslisarenko4487
    @dmitriyslisarenko4487 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    omg, my like was 999. And yeah, ROR trader is best now.

  • @Soberoabre
    @Soberoabre ปีที่แล้ว

    Number of turrets is the least thing that affect M class fighting ability. First of all, damage output of M turrets is 5x-10x lower than the damage of main guns and because of this any gunboat or frigate are weaker than any corvette, especially when out of sector combat is calculated.
    So no, Hydra and ...what? Cobra? ... they both weaker than Nemesis, Dragon and Katana, especially when under AI control and even more weaker in out of sector combat.

    • @krivdaa9627
      @krivdaa9627 ปีที่แล้ว

      >>First of all, damage output of M turrets is 5x-10x lower than the damage of main guns and because of this any gunboat or frigate are weaker than any corvette, especially when out of sector combat is calculated.
      Very true. That's why Peregrine is the best - it has 2 guns (presumably, bosons) and 4 turrets to compensate for boson's In Sector misery. If you complement Peregrines with some Threshers - the fleet will cope with In Sector much better

    • @krivdaa9627
      @krivdaa9627 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope OOS will get fixed some day. As fleet of 10 Kuroakamis with all boson setup and shield mods shreds whole xenon sectors in OOS (including K, I and defense stations). Yes, from time time you need to make a manual flee order, but it feels like cheating.

  • @fraustpunk
    @fraustpunk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't speak a second language, so I mean no disrespect...but it's pronounced "Pour (as in pouring a glass of water) Puss, Pour-puss. The way you were saying it was cracking me up.

  • @attilassimcorner5277
    @attilassimcorner5277 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trader sim in space made by people love trading but hate space sims.

  • @ИгорьБарка
    @ИгорьБарка ปีที่แล้ว

    Привет мой друг. Наконец то кепку одел

  • @mikeehrmantraut2607
    @mikeehrmantraut2607 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my god, i want hard facts and no fairy tales

  • @rflynn1974
    @rflynn1974 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool

  • @marcelosampietro6424
    @marcelosampietro6424 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i only want a cool ship. Modthe shit out of it and kabom. I have my personal Dragon Raider named BRRRTTT

  • @ianwilliams7740
    @ianwilliams7740 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The English pronunciation for Porpoise is "paw-puss".. (not making fun of you, your English is awesome)

  • @lolHyperactive
    @lolHyperactive ปีที่แล้ว

    new video UwU

  • @mikeehrmantraut2607
    @mikeehrmantraut2607 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    your the worst x4 content i ever saw.

    • @CaptainCollins
      @CaptainCollins  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're the worst comment I've ever seen 🤣

  • @tinblue
    @tinblue ปีที่แล้ว

    X-Rebirth is better and the entire community is in denial.

    • @CaptainCollins
      @CaptainCollins  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I liked it :)

    • @FlorestanTrement
      @FlorestanTrement ปีที่แล้ว

      Loved the music, but…
      I tried so hard to like that game, preordered it, invested 50hrs in it… But it was nothing short of a disaster.

    • @haoss69
      @haoss69 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FlorestanTrement have you tried it after the updates ? release was bad but the latest DLC's and updates finally made it a good game that deserves the X name.

    • @FlorestanTrement
      @FlorestanTrement ปีที่แล้ว

      @@haoss69 It was not just bad. Full of not only bugs, but bad design decisions, like the one about walking around in stations that, sadly, we still have in X4. At least, we don't have to spend so much time there, and they are not so maze like any more.
      I deemed the game not fixable and abandoned after a few weeks. To me, it was a 50€ music album.
      It was years ago, though, I don't remember much more details.
      I wish they also had finally fixed the extremely poor interface since then…

  • @Shadows_101
    @Shadows_101 ปีที่แล้ว

    hm, this person must have intressing views and content to have this many subscribers.. myself only lasted a few min... free world and its up to me if i want to lissen to someone lisping this annoying.. best of luck anyhow..

  • @TheCcrack
    @TheCcrack ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as a new player starting out as terran, this guide really dosnt help because its just ''the boron have all the best stuff''
    i cant even access their stuff at this point, i want to know whats good from the factions around me that i can make use of

  • @Pow3rGaming
    @Pow3rGaming 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're awesome. Ty.

  • @braize6279
    @braize6279 ปีที่แล้ว

    After using a Hydra, I don't step near a Katana anymore. The Hydra is also a great daily driver as well with it's speed and maneuverability. The rail gun on the Hydra is fun, just be mindful of the cooldown. If you go up against multiple small fighters, you're going to be in trouble. So I don't recommend rails on your daily driver Hydra, but rails are very good in group fights. Overall though, the Hydra is just a smooth ship that always works.

    • @krivdaa9627
      @krivdaa9627 ปีที่แล้ว

      I really recommend to try Kuroakami if you like Hydra. It's nearly as agile but much more flexible. And much faster.

    • @greganthonysanchez3416
      @greganthonysanchez3416 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      4 railguns on a hydra allows you to boom and zoom clusters of S ships. Weapon range is awesome, so fire from long range then disengage at an angle, get enough distance. Rinse and repeat.