Is this pedalboard CHEATING? | Friday Fretworks
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- Are we using pedals as a crutch?
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0:00 Intro
0:07 JAM! Cardinal Black - On My Own
2:04 Are we using pedals as a crutch?
3:40 Which side of the fence are you on?
5:35 JAM! Cardinal Black - Warm Love
7:01 Do the audience matter?
9:23 JAM! Cardinal Black - Ain't My Time
11:53 - Ditching the pedalboard
14:32 JAM! '59 Les Paul + '64 Marshall JTM45
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Chris, we'll never escape the "experts" and their opinions that everyone should do as they do. I look at it this way, "if it sounds good, it is good." I was a guitar/cord/amp player for decades. Then about 10 years ago I began using pedals. They add variety, which means versatility. Follow your ears. There you have it, I speak of "experts" and then give you my .02 worth!
Sounds like wisdom and experience to me . Just my .02 . Thk u .
I likes what I likes. I knows what I knows. And I can afford what I can afford. I'll take your two cents and put it towards my next purchase. Thanks!
Totally agree. And I am almost 100% sure that touring artists have been using effects for maybe 40 years (or more) in concert. They used to tour with big racks of effects in the 80s. Also, pretty sure pedals and digital effects put the rack makers out of business and allowed easier transport of effects, sound to be connected to PAs in large concert halls and allowed gain and other sounds to be created without driving your neighbors crazy and the band deaf. If it sounds good it is good. Use of effects has very, very little to do with the quality of the artist.
Yeah. People don't use pedals to make them better guitarists. They use them to vary their tonal palette. I don't know how a player such as Dave Gilmour (for example) would achieve the kinds of reverb or delay sounds that he uses, without a pedal or rack. Even the overdrive sounds we ALL USE and dearly love are just an effect. Let those that are critical of effects just play "clean" and stfu.
@@castleanthrax1833 😄😱
I look forward to the Chris Buck range of lucky underpants being available in all reputable music stores in the near future.
I get chills every time I hear you play man. Keep it up. Your sound and phrasing is absolutely legendary
Don’t worry about the haters. They’re just envious of your talent and success. You’re killing it dude. Just keep on rockin’ . 🤘
I love the message in this video. The magic of music can thrive in so many different ways, and the mix of your sensibilities and talent are a gift to all of us! Keep exploring & following the muse as you will!
Love your music Chris! Thanks for sharing your gift with us!
Great video as usual Chris. I am in my 60s and saw the majority of the big 70s bands including Zep. Rory Gallagher was by far my favourite live artist at that time and I was fortunate to see him multiple times. As we know, he knew how to constantly ring out every last drop of tone from his guitar especially when playing his Strat using and changing PUP selector, volume and tone controls multiple times throughout a single song. But he was playing a certain genre, that really didn't need anything else. I know he used a few modulation effects later in his career. Radiohead are my all time favourite band. Radiohead would be a very different band if Ed just played through Rory's simple set up. The point I am trying to make is I believe the genre of music heavily influences what type of rig is appropriate. By the way, I purchased a P90 loaded Revstar primarily off the back of your frequent use and it gets played live every week love it to bits, though my Cornford is starting to gather dust (which I used to go straight into) in favour of my QC, ha ha! For the last studio album I recorded back in 1995 both the other guitarist and myself tracked all the guitars through my Mesa Boogie Trem-O-Verb with no pedal effects whatsoever, except for my Cry Baby on one track, live I did the same. Now I use loads of reverbs and delays, as I play music requiring an ambient feel. Thanks again for your great channel and consummate playing. Kind regards.
This is one of my favorite comments I've ever seen on TH-cam. Happy playing!
@@jtkane317thank you buddy, you too!
Such an amazingly beautiful sound, tone and feel!
God I wish I was just even a 5th of a player that you are! A sound and feel that pulls on the heart strings at every tap, bend and slide is to me the ultimate goal in my learning of the most beautiful of instruments to me and most likely millions of others.
Thanks Chris, keep on, never stop! 🤘🏻
So now it's "cheating" to use whatever you find available to get the sound you hear in your head?
Chris...you rock to such an extent that your own advice to yourself about how you get those miraculous tones is about all you need to listen to.
I would love if you made it a new FF trend to include your signal chains for the jams as you did today!
I agree. I bet the effects manufacturers do as well!
Chris, you're just as eloquent in front of a camera as you are on your guitars - amazing. I love your line of reasoning.
Happy hallowed howls of heartfelt agreement! All too true! With a smile so real and still feeling my players muscles in shoulders and neck responding to sympathetic emphasis on your leads and awesome playout, I got lucky and made it here today to hear you play!!! You get me!
You are so right about this, it is your show. You're a star, and inspiration for the next generation of players.
The first message is mine! I really like the sound of your guitar, more from your hands, it's great!
Well said, I'm 60 years old and agree with you 101%, I'm also a painter, I can use a cheap pigments and my client will not notice it, but it's my art work, my painting, so I will use the best pigments that I can afford. Thanks for your music!
The solo at the start of this one is the most beautiful bit of music I've heard in a long while.
Just a thoughtful approach to the relationship between artist, tools and the work itself. I really appreciate the insight.
I clicked for the subject matter, I stayed because of the incredible guitar playing! I went from not knowing who you are to considering you one of the most exciting guitar players out there. Great job, dude!
Lovely intro solo Chris!
Amazing playing!!! Hope some day the band tour in brazil!
I have met or talked to the designers of over half the pedals I own. How many other things in my life are like that? Not my clothes. Not my car. Not my computer or phone. And I find that cool. It makes me feel connected to an artist who has contributed to my own creativity.
I’ve never really thought of it that way, that’s really interesting! I think I’ve met almost everyone who has made a pedal that is on my current board, maybe that’s WHY they are still on there? Hmm🤔. It is nice to look down and see that connection to other actual humans, and not just a faceless corporation I suppose…
Good for you Chris!
Great video. You state that the audience certainly can't tell which effects you're using or how they're configured. While that's undoubtedly true, I think they would notice that something was different if you stopped. To them, it's a bit of magic that seems to be missing, but it would be missing nonetheless. In the end, your point that it's your show and therefore your decision is exactly right. You're the expert on being you. So keep doing you!
Exactly my thoughts. Well put.
That first song is hauntingly beautiful. And I love that you played out with a “badge” jam. You are truly a talent Chris no matter what gear your using
Really beautiful solo dude!
Dude, you just keep doing you and your always gonna sound great!!
The final jam sounded like a variation of Clapton's solo on "Badge".
Your tone IS YOUR TONE! The tone you create for an original song is as important as the music, the vocals, the lyrics ect.... Everything you put into it is the pallet you paint with. If every song sounded like a dimed Plexi there wouldn't be a whole lot of diversity in music. DIFFERENT IS GOOD!
People listen to the vocals, the lyrics and the music. Guitarists are the ones who focus on tone.
I have never heard a non-guitarist talk about guitar tone.
@@greybeard27 You've never heard a fan of a band talk about liking how a guitar sounds on a particular part? Like, how a delay sounds? Something like that? If so, you don't talk to people who get obsessive about their favorite bands.
@@greybeard27 its about how the player feels about his music. a new piece of gear can inspire new songs or creativity of a melody. new effects, amps or guitars has never been about the fans or what they hear but its about the musician and what they hear.
Good one, it is your gig and you the captain of the ship.
Cheers from Finland 🍻
What makes a great guitarist is emotion. Your ability to infuse emotion into the music is extraordinary. Thank you, and keep it up. God bless.
Thanks. A great topic for discussion. All I know is after toiling away for 20 years with just my guitar and amp distortion the moment I got some pedals it seem to open up so many new options for me. I can be much more creative in the way I play now because I have a lot more options that I can dial in.
Awesome buddy 👏
Very well said and argued! Bravo!
Its the small details that make the ultimate sound! Great video.....
Very well articulated.
Such a nice articulated ode for music and all its forms / players / public’s.
… and frack, your playing … 🎉 thanks
As a fan and a guitar player (not in the same league by FAR) I like the effects you choose for specific songs. Can I tell which pedal you use - no, but I appreciate YOUR sound. You are very distinct from the pack and killing it! I look forward to more of YOUR sound!
Seriously you are one the best players. So melodic and just awesome.
You’re awesome, Chris! Couldn’t agree with your perspective more.
And when you play through those dual Vintage Fenders…the tone is RIGHT! Keep it up. 👍
Awesome encapsulation. When you state, about 2/3rds of the way through, that you *could* do a CB show with just an amp and a cord, but you wouldn't *want* to, I think that is the clearest. All that said, however, including everything you said ... when you jammed out at the end, without pedals ... I gotta say it seemed like the most inspiring sound of any jam on here.
What a fantastic video have a good weekend
That final signal chain with the “😉” emoji was hilarious. One of the best guitarists alive right now.
It's all about the right vibration & Chris your vibration is perfect pitch brother ❤
For you the pedal board is as much of your sound as are your right hand fingers and your pick gauges. Having a unique sound per tune is a great way for you to keep your playing fresh. Keep doing what you’re doing - I enjoy listening to your musical journey.
“I can, it’s my show” Hell ya. Thanks for the inspirational playing.
Great video and I completely agree use what ya use to make whatever art you want.
Agree with you completely, it’s your show, your call…
I like your Revstars, I’ve got my eye on one myself.
Very infectious grooves, awesome.
Thank you. 🎸🤓🌎☮️🙏👍
Bro your playing is so fire! I play lead for my church and I wish i could shredd like this so good! Killer tone!
you're right evolves with your time and with your sound. you are a wonderful touch and keep making your guitar cry
I love what you do. Great playing, thanks. You are not cheating you are using technology to produce your sound - and very good it is!
Nice playing bro! Im a 92 baby and completely agree with you on the matter of having one foot in each camp, i gig with a supro rhythm master and have a mixture of both analog and digital on my current board, merging the best of both worlds i say haha keep the videos coming! Love the content 👏
The jam sections of this video are insane. Completely agree too that half the point of using effects is to feel inspired, which makes you play better
Good point! As with everything - it's not a yes or no question. 👍
Damn that revstar bit sounds so awesome and fuzzy!
Great comments Chris
Great response. It's your job and your tools. I played a show over the weekend and was accosted by another band for having too many pedals. We were the opening act, and I noticed a bit of feedback from my mic, I kicked on my feedback suppressor and everything went perfectly. The next 3 bands had feedback issues including the band that accosted me. My tools for my job are based on what I've experienced in the past. Also...It's just so much fun.
"Wow" Chris you're sound is so fab with or without relish. "Knockout". John.
art is art Thanks Chris :)
That Les paul into a JTM45 at the end might just be the best "Badge" solo I've ever heard.
Brilliant!
It's not the gear, it's the man. Cheers!
Love the videos! I gig as a drummer or bass player but do play guitar and work as a sound designer for games. I’m a bit older than you. Several years ago a guitar player friend whom I’ve played with since the mid 80s wanted to shootout guitar amp mics. We do a lot of recording and both of us have a variety of amps. This sent us down a crazy rabbit hole of tone searching, or researching. Once we found our favorite mic we started to shootout cables and one day we decided to see what affect stomp boxes have on guitar tone, which included in line before the amp as well as within an effects loop. My friend has hundreds of stomp boxes and rack effects. We found that not all effects processors are created equal. As a studio person there are certain things that I prefer after the mic in the signal chain, particularly delays and reverbs. I am not a fan of amp spring reverbs because they are quite boingy. Our semi methodical research led us to find that the best sound was the simplest; guitar straight into an amp, preferably with a Mogami cable with Neutrik connectors. We both always loved that combination. We found several boxes, rack included that as soon as they were added to the signal path the tone could degrade considerably. If a certain effect was desired we would only insert that box into the chain and only record with that effect active. Delays and verbs were best after the fact at the mix stage. We found significant discrepancies with modulation effects in particular. Any modulation effect with a digital chip performing the modulation, even those claiming to be high res just would not hold up to older analog modulation effects. We listened a bunch of choruses, phasers and flangers from several eras and the one we liked best was in an old Ibanez analog rack multi effects unit from around 1979 that I bought used in the 90s. It has a compressor, a phaser, an overdrive (literally the same circuit as their Tube Screamer from that era- my friend has the stomp box version and the two are identical with the same settings), a switchable stereo chorus/flanger and a loop. Each section has a knob numbered 1-5 to assign the order of the modules into any desired configuration. The phaser, chorus and flange killed any and every other box we auditioned. Some modern Leslie emulations were quite good but didn’t have the same feel, quality and depth as the Ibanez. We spend a lot of money on beautiful sounding guitars. Why muck it up with a bunch of potentially inferior circuitry before it even gets to a very nice vintage tube amp? I used to love my old MXR Distortion+ also from 1979. But now I only use amp distortion because it’s what sounds best to my ear. I’m a big Rush fan and Alex Lifeson always toured with a super sophisticated rig of stomp boxes and rack effects including a rack wah. We always wanted to emulate that, rightly or wrongly. I have been through various PODs and other Line 6 virtual processors as well as many name plugin amp sims and emulations. They work in a pinch but don’t come anywhere near pushing air from a speaker into a microphone into a nice mic pre into the recording medium. I play with another guitarist in one of my gigging bands who has a decent medium sized pedal board. There are certain things we need/desire to perform certain songs but sometimes you can hear how much it can kill the tone just being in line. Then how much noise is introduced when certain things are active. It can be a real pain. So there is a balancing act. I love toys myself. You just have to pick and choose. Back when Van Halen was coming to prominence you used to hear how he was “all effects” and somehow that was how he was “cheating” but I never heard him that way myself. Finding the balance is the key. I have heard really good sounding small rigs that sounded like studio recordings and sophisticated large rigs that sounded horrible and noisey or really thin. Ultimately if it sounds good it is good. For me that is usually straight to the amp or through one effect when recording. Using effects isn’t cheating, but it’s not always necessary either. 😊
Solo at 6:30 was f'ing nasty. nice work, man
Yet another erudite exposition of a contemporary guitar conundrum Buckmaster. Top stuff.
As a 62 year old musician and visual artist I've found whatever helps you through the process to achieve the desired results are fair game. One time when my pedalboard and amplifier failed... I resorted to using a D.I. box into the P.A. & monitors. Had a great jam I'll never forget. It was a rather freeing experience. Cheers.
Chris....just replace the H in cheating with an R. Pedals have always inspired me to create and enjoy playing guitar. Even just owning a helix at this I always have the means to create a different sound within seconds.
My favorite analogy: The diners in the restaurant don't know or care what kind of knives the chef used to prepare the meal. But you can bet it's important to the chef.
To me, it boils down to 2 things:
1. What suits the music?
2. What suits the player?
You use pedals that help serve the music - pedals that have been used by varioud players for many years to create a sound like Cardinal Blacks. Sure, if you were to step on stage with 5 HM2s or just a Chase Bliss Mood and an Empress Echo System, I think I'd be a bit put off and think "alright, hows he going to pull this off then?" - but you don't, you craft a toolbox with which to suit the music - and make it authentic to what came out of the studio, because nobody is able to take a real plate reverb with them on tour!
And then, you have the tools that make you happy. Whether that be the Snouse Blackbox, the KOT, the Boss Space Echo... they help you make you feel like you on stage. Would it make a difference if someone replaced the Blackbox with a 'proper' Bluesbreaker? Or if someone replaced the Boss Space Echo with one of the new T-Rex one? To the sound that the audience hears, probably not! But you would know, and that might make you less confident on stage. So you must, in my opinion, be selfish in that regard - because both you and the audience want the same thing, the best performance available on that evening.
Finally, you mentioned Hendrix at Woodstock, so I will say, (having grown up with my dad being a Genesis superfan) if anyone thinks pedals are cheating, go and listen to David Gilmour playing in Rome in 2007, with his absolute space ship of a pedal board, and think again; are pedals cheating? Or do they help musicians be at their best during a time of vulnerability?
Great playing and great thoughts. I say any electric guitar player who is worried about "cheating" is in need of a reminder; electric guitar isn't about following rules; if anything it is far more about breaking them for fun and to see what happens.
I really like the tones you get out of your Revstar. I’m going to take my Grandson to the music shop to take a look at the version with P-90s.
Even Jimi never just plugged into a Marshall Plexi, he used a few pedals cos he knew what sound he wanted. I reckon at least 50% of your sound comes from your fingers. If we gave you a plank with six strings on it, it would still sound like you. Go with what you like and just keep making yourself and therefore the rest of us happy.
When I come to see a guitarist or band I do just that. I come to experience them doing what they do best…and whatever equipment is needed to make the artist live their best life then and there in the moment is perfect.
Who gives a …. what people think. The most important thing I’ve discovered is that what inspires you in your creative process is where it’s at. You’re bang on. ‘It’s your gig..’ And Chris you have inspired me for a long while now… keep going.
It's hard enough to just learn to play the guitar, but to learn and master all of the possibilities available with the use of all of the outboard equipment these days ...well that's a whole nother full time job. Keep doing what you're doing and you'll have me as a fan for life!
I just came to hear you play. Well said though. Cheers! I'm wearing my lucky underpants right now!
Brilliant point Chris about Hendrix and Bonamassa and about music being art and i.e. no limits/restrictions. Joe's argument doesn't hold water IMHO and as like with the points you've raised we would missing out on so many iconic songs that rely on effect(s) to create the atmosphere that makes those songs so special.
Keep on doing what you want and us fans will be happy (…and keep on using the “lucky underpants!”)
To quote Duke Ellington: “There are two types of music, good music and the other kind…” Chris, you play good music and I’m certain Duke would agree; how you do it is up to you, as it has been to all great musicians and hopefully always will. It is our privilege to listen.
You remind me of Rhett Shull only British. I liked the way you explained this concept 👍 effects are like colors on a pallet, and sometimes a song can really benefit from those.
Excellent FFF episode. Intersecting that Tim Pierce - close to my age when reviewing the Tonex talked about all this gear - digital or analogue are tools. The art comparison is a good one. I like the argument “would you expect a painter to only use 1 colour for every picture?”
Great point about Hendrix.
Nice balanced point of view. In the end you be you and I will be me.. 👍🇦🇺
Way to go, Chris!!! Tell them “office chair Officianados” to pound sand! They’re not the one standing on those arena stages with thousands of people in the crowd!
Great Ambient Sound
I loved that comment from you ,” there’s loads of players out there better than I am”,, err,, I don’t think so ,, lol 🎸👍
Icing on the song cake - just like the stairwell where the plexi mic was placed
I'm 100% with you Chris
Cheating? Nope! Lazy? Nope! Great sounds? Yep!!!!!! We love what you do! ! !
That point about Hendrix's pedal board at Woodstock was a sockdolager!
And so was the exit solo.
Absolutely - I've always thought that those that value 'vintage' tone and methods above all else totally forgot that Hendrix, The Beatles, Les Paul himself, etc etc - were always using new gear, cutting edge in many case.
You hit the nail on the head. If you go on stage with a guitar sound which which you are not comfortable, it's going to affect your playing (and concentration) detrimentally. One has the sound in one's head. If one can't achieve it, it just results in frustration. The technology is a tool. Recording itself is an artifice - often multiple takes 'comped' together. If it's there, and it adds emotion, or feel, then use it. I'm Old School. I start with a clean sound, then add effects to taste. As long as one remember, the sound is in your hands, not in the box.
I remember an old ads in a magazine, "Are you a guitarist or a tap dancer?" .. that made my day, I ditched every pedal and only stay with digital pedal, I mean most of us only using Clean, Reverb, Chorus, Delay and Dist or OD most of the time/gig. At least that worked for me for more than 35 years ...
You play the way you want to play and make the sound you like. One of my favourite guitarists just used a fender reverb and his Tele. Doesn’t make him right or wrong, just the sound he cared for. (Roy Buchanan)
As both an artist and a guitar player I would say that pedals are like paintbrushes. They give you options to create specific textures.
well said
It's not what the audience notice, it's what they don't, but what still makes the difference. I remember watching a commentary on the extras on the Get Carter DVD, where the director and lightning guys discussed their craft on the scenes as you watched them. When you understood what was really happening, you realised why the scene was so good, but you didn't know why untill you were told how they did it.
Damn, every time I hear this man play I reach for a guitar... inspiring.
Got to admit, I'd feel a bit naked without me effects pedals.(All 5 of em..😅)😬 But your thoughts on the subject are spot on, Chris...art is personal choice and taste. The Epi 335 sounds sublime.👍🎶🎸
This would be an interesting topic to return to in a couple of years time if, in the meantime you did a fully acoustic set, gig or an MTV esque unplugged mini tour for example.
Whatever gives you the comfort to perform your best. That said, I've scaled down my live effects over the years to boost, wah, phaser, delay. The less to tote and go wrong, the better. And I can add more if a certain song requires something specific.
Couldn’t agree more with you.
Sorry not important to the video, but I've been relistening to Buck & Evans recently again and absolutely love you work in that band. Would love to see you live with Buck & Evans!!!