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Loved the symbolism of Aegon destroying his father’s model of the city, literally wiping out what took him years to build in seconds bc of his vengeance
I think Daemon means everything he says. He really doesnt lie. If you ask him a question he normally gives the answer that will hurt your feelings. I think it can be true that he's mad he didn't end up in the Throne and also he's fine with Rhaenyra being there. Overall Daemon loves his family and I don't think that will change. If Rhaenyra is like her dad she will welcome Daemon back whenever he's ready to come back.
He did lie about the blood and cheese situation. Rhanerya asked did he order the assassination on a child and all he said was it was a mistake. But it wasn’t a mistake. Cheese asked clearly “ what if we can’t find him?(Aemond) and he(Daemond) smirks and they cut it before he gives his answer. However we know that he did order the execution because Blood said “he said a son for a son”. So he does lie when it suits him
I think it’s hilarious that people that just provide commentary on shows get so much wrong with what they’re talking about, just so they can hurriedly put out a vid with misinformation. I would think it was obvious that Erryk was the winner and not arryk. For one, seeing how aggressively arryk was still trying to kill rhaenyra even after his twin arrived. If he had killed his brother, he would have at least went on to “do his duty” of killing rhaenyra before killings himself
As a person who loves LEGOs and building models, I was horrified when Aegon destroyed his dad's Valyria model. DO YOU FUCKING KNOW HOW LONG YOUR OLD MAN SPENT MAKING IT?????
Each building smashed, I was like "That was about a year, several months... oh, that piece was worked for yeeeears". As a model builder, that was rough to watch.
Otto would have been smarter to try to marry Rhaenyra to one of his sons. He would still get a grandchild on the throne at some point. Instead he's stuck with the disaster that is the Green children (except for Helena, she's perfect)
@@Cindynomiya Sir Christian Cole has defiled his nobility amongst the KingsGuard. Oaths broken, coupling erratically with members of the High Table. This common whore should be stripped of all ranks and titles, and his name stricken from the Dynasty of Westeros🗡️
I think people, in real life, and in the show. Need to evaluate daemons INTENTIONS, AND VALUES. he is unwaveringly loyal and protective of his family, even to the point where he believes he needs to protect them from themselves, (i.e. yelling viserys he was a weak king, and his council knew it) in my opinion, while this doesn't excuse his actions, it makes him much more relatable. And his actions understandable. I haven't read the book, and may just be trying to justify for him, but as of right now I don't think daemon is simply bloodthirsty. I just think he is doing what he feels is necessary to protect the ones he loves.
Honestly I’m shocked at all the Daemon hate! I think he has proven himself the most. He has been there running things & taking Dragon-inventory while Rhaenyra was absent and wandering around mourning her son. In a way, he’s more concerned about her crown than she is. Whatever his motivations may be I don’t think he has been selfish in his recent actions and if anything he has proven extreme loyalty! He risked his own life to go to king’s landing to execute Rhaenyra’s order/wish “I want Aemond Targaryen”. Who else would’ve done that for her? And was there a risk of the wrong people dying and plans going to shit, yes! Rhaenyra must’ve been aware of that. Also I don’t understand his loyalty being questioned, I think he has processed the fact that he will not be king, but he is prepared to risk everything (even his own life) to make sure one of his sons will be in the future. If he truly wanted the crown for himself, he would’ve ran and hid somewhere and watched the Reds & Greens kill each other, only to swoop in and take the crown at the last moment. I think his character is complex and misunderstood and gets too much undeserved hate.
Fun discussion. Ranira's (?) loss of Eric(?) as a trusted advisor was greater than Team Green's loss of Aaric(?) as a King's guard. The white dragon and Adam were making a connection which was why the dragon seemed to be flying closer. I think (never read the books) this will be a future rider/dragon pair.
Didn’t Rhaenyra’s beg Daemon to marry her. What did she think was going to happen? Did she think she was going to fix him? He’s Blood of the Dragon. Did she conveniently forget? I love Rhaenyra but she’s said cruel things to him and mocked him. Yet no one ever blames her. Amazing!
Also, how much did the white worm made it in time to find the Black Queensguard A/Erryk, and how much did he figure it out himself (like when he pass by his twin, sort of feel weird, "was that Arryk?" "Something feel wrong?" " I have a bad feeling...")
Thank you for including the links (cell#friendly) for the swords....i cant wait to add GOT/HOTD to my collection. Also the breakroom is my fave place to be😍🙏
Don't know where Daeron as a septon in training comes from. In the book he is a cupholder for Lord Hightower, a dragonrider and the most popular of Alicent's sons among the public.
27:02 it is not shocking that many male actors go the road of being overly thin and losing weight, rather than trying to compete with the Thors of Hollywood 😕
📌First of all, Otto is winning me over the more he becomes of sound mind. Hilarious how he taunted Aegon😂! ALL FACTS. Rheynera is the true Heir. And Cristin is a forking socio/psychopath OHMYGAH … he weaponized his own guilt by making the Twins (R.I.P.) fight to the death! What the fork😢… Rheynera & White worm are the duo we need. I hope that alliance flourishes.. vaguely remember but they became cool in the book I believe? Duh, of course Aemond is grieving over Luke that whole situation was proof that Vaegar old ass cannot be controlled. She is a battle dragon & Aemond don’t got it like that. He ain’t really like DAT. Last but certainly not least my darling Daemon 🔥🐉 (the parents are fighting) poor Daemon… 😅 I hope they reconcile because he loves his family. Regardless of his own insecurities that he’s dealt with regarding the crown & his Brother it’s true Daemon cannot be trusted because he is the dragon. He’s definitely a conqueror & Viserys is the noble/humble king. At the end of the day Daemon loves his family, full stop. Oh, Aemond CAN’T SEE DAEMON! What!? Ain’t nobody scared of you boy! Get outta here🤭🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
I think Erryk found out that his brother was on Dragonstone, when the dude Arryk just relieved ran into him. Like, you just relieved me from my duty???
Erryk found out because Mysaria notices Arryk on the beach when she's leaving. Before it cuts away from her, she gets the attention of the guard that was with her
The dialogue in this episode was incredible. The various conversations throughout the episode was so mesmerizing. Good writing is good writing. I could listen to an extended conversation between Rhaenyra and Mysaria for the entire hour. I was into whatever was happening with those two 😅 Even the Otto and Aegon scene was so good.
I rewatched the first episode and Daemon never says to blood and cheese a son for a son, he only describes Aemon and when cheese asks if they can't find him then what do they do and it cuts, yet blood says in Helenas chamber a son for a son, Daemon totally told them to kill a son if they couldn't find Aemon, there was no mistake, yet I will stay team black to the end 🖤🖤
Lol! Jessica, are you team green just to present a more “balanced” panel for the show? I’ve literally never met a face that is on team green, I always assumed they’re just bots or trolls 😅😂
Team green here, standing by Aemond, "I was bullied and now I kick asses", Targaryen's side. I don't mind Haelena or Otto, I consider Aegon a manchild, and despise Christon & Alicent, the clown pair. The other team is worse, so I stick by the greens, for lack of a better option. Out of all characters I love the twins the most, because they are the only true, honourable, knights in the whole series.
@Cavpal I get what you're saying, but you're still an anonymous faceless example to me right? I meant that I've never MET anyone on TEAM Green or seen a known personality claim to be on team green. Even your breakdown is more Team Aemond than Team Green.
@@eshna2012 Most of my friends can't stand Rhaenyra, but they love Daemon and Aemond, so I guess it's not a clear cut. All the reactors I have seen are team Black, mostly because they consider Rhaenyra as the story's MC, which is the wrong approach to a series based on the ASOIAF world. No single character is the protagonist, no character is safe, anyone could die at any given moment, there's no good side or bad side, everyone is fucked up in his/her own way.
Just cuz everyone is f-ed up in their own way doesn't mean all are equally f-ed up. The majority is on team black because She is the rightful heir and the better ruler compared to her half brother who was never educated to be a leader. 🤷♀️🤷🤷♂️
THANKS for this, BR!!!!! I agree with @lulu_clemons that Cole is not long for this show.... A special thanks for being distinguished among TH-camrs by pointing out that the twin plan *almost worked.*
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Loved the symbolism of Aegon destroying his father’s model of the city, literally wiping out what took him years to build in seconds bc of his vengeance
It was like watching a Shakespearean play with Otto.
I think Daemon means everything he says. He really doesnt lie. If you ask him a question he normally gives the answer that will hurt your feelings. I think it can be true that he's mad he didn't end up in the Throne and also he's fine with Rhaenyra being there. Overall Daemon loves his family and I don't think that will change. If Rhaenyra is like her dad she will welcome Daemon back whenever he's ready to come back.
He did lie about the blood and cheese situation. Rhanerya asked did he order the assassination on a child and all he said was it was a mistake. But it wasn’t a mistake. Cheese asked clearly “ what if we can’t find him?(Aemond) and he(Daemond) smirks and they cut it before he gives his answer. However we know that he did order the execution because Blood said “he said a son for a son”. So he does lie when it suits him
@@MattyCamachioi mean we don’t know if blood was just lying about the fact daemon said that since we didn’t actually see it though
definitely thought it was Errik that won and just bowed out at the sight of his dead twin because of the "your grace" line
Yup. He couldn’t live with killing his brother. It was too much for him.
yeah i agree
Definitely, the "your grace" gave him away 🥺
Yeah pretty confident that was Erryk who won
I think it’s hilarious that people that just provide commentary on shows get so much wrong with what they’re talking about, just so they can hurriedly put out a vid with misinformation. I would think it was obvious that Erryk was the winner and not arryk. For one, seeing how aggressively arryk was still trying to kill rhaenyra even after his twin arrived. If he had killed his brother, he would have at least went on to “do his duty” of killing rhaenyra before killings himself
As a person who loves LEGOs and building models, I was horrified when Aegon destroyed his dad's Valyria model.
DO YOU FUCKING KNOW HOW LONG YOUR OLD MAN SPENT MAKING IT?????
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That was important history and data. Stupid move.
Each building smashed, I was like "That was about a year, several months... oh, that piece was worked for yeeeears". As a model builder, that was rough to watch.
According to a USA Today interview with the twin actors who played the characters, Erryk won the fight, not Arryk
Thanks for the info.
Huge! Saw the show runner confirmed it as well - looks like we've gotta clean our screens!
But in the story, there was a question of which was which - and there would always have been a question.
Otto would have been smarter to try to marry Rhaenyra to one of his sons. He would still get a grandchild on the throne at some point. Instead he's stuck with the disaster that is the Green children (except for Helena, she's perfect)
Not his son, but he did suggest that Rhaenyra marry Aegon, but it got shot down since Aegon was a baby.
It was Erryk who killed Arryk, they stated they suffered the same wounds to confuse people. You missed the "im sorry your grace"
*Book Spoilers*
Love Corlys and Rhaenys, but I wouldn't be so quick to say it's entirely monogamous, cough Alyn and Adam cough
Aemond giving off Homelander vibes 😂
He getting that Milk baby! 🥛
Facts!
So happy I found this channel ,you guys are hilarious together .
Cole coulda been on Team Black if he had only agreed to be Rhaenyra’s “side dude” offer. Shiiiit I woulda taken it
He ended up as a side dude anyway which is hilarious 😂
@@Cindynomiya Sir Christian Cole has defiled his nobility amongst the KingsGuard. Oaths broken, coupling erratically with members of the High Table. This common whore should be stripped of all ranks and titles, and his name stricken from the Dynasty of Westeros🗡️
No thanks he's an incel and loser. He belongs on team delusional
Crispin Cole in no Daario Naharis 😂😂😂
And Rhaenyra is so hot. Like what was he thinking?
I think people, in real life, and in the show. Need to evaluate daemons INTENTIONS, AND VALUES. he is unwaveringly loyal and protective of his family, even to the point where he believes he needs to protect them from themselves, (i.e. yelling viserys he was a weak king, and his council knew it) in my opinion, while this doesn't excuse his actions, it makes him much more relatable. And his actions understandable. I haven't read the book, and may just be trying to justify for him, but as of right now I don't think daemon is simply bloodthirsty. I just think he is doing what he feels is necessary to protect the ones he loves.
And no I don't think daemon will or wants to claim the Throne, unless it is the only way to ensure the saftey of his loved ones.
It doesn't matter if you read the book in this case as his character is still ambiguous
This is my favorite trio combination ❤️
Honestly I’m shocked at all the Daemon hate! I think he has proven himself the most. He has been there running things & taking Dragon-inventory while Rhaenyra was absent and wandering around mourning her son. In a way, he’s more concerned about her crown than she is. Whatever his motivations may be I don’t think he has been selfish in his recent actions and if anything he has proven extreme loyalty! He risked his own life to go to king’s landing to execute Rhaenyra’s order/wish “I want Aemond Targaryen”.
Who else would’ve done that for her? And was there a risk of the wrong people dying and plans going to shit, yes! Rhaenyra must’ve been aware of that.
Also I don’t understand his loyalty being questioned, I think he has processed the fact that he will not be king, but he is prepared to risk everything (even his own life) to make sure one of his sons will be in the future.
If he truly wanted the crown for himself, he would’ve ran and hid somewhere and watched the Reds & Greens kill each other, only to swoop in and take the crown at the last moment. I think his character is complex and misunderstood and gets too much undeserved hate.
Agreed. It’s like people have no sense of nuance …. I love Daemon and I think Matt Smith is playing his character phenomenally
I cried laughing at the soup seasoning and pillow house bits 😂
"There is a rat in the tub with me!"...... So hysterical!! 😂
Fun discussion. Ranira's (?) loss of Eric(?) as a trusted advisor was greater than Team Green's loss of Aaric(?) as a King's guard. The white dragon and Adam were making a connection which was why the dragon seemed to be flying closer. I think (never read the books) this will be a future rider/dragon pair.
Damn yall are fast good shit.
Is there some place to watch full reactions? Love the after show but would love to see first impressions 😬
Maybe in their discord channel?
They finally mentioned my boy Daeron 😭
tent boyyyy
Hey Daeron my mom she got me this game called Ever Quest II
See, during the funeral scene, I don't see Alisent being maternal and supportive. That claw on Helena's leg was more controlling, keeping her in line
Same!
18:15 Brandon her Erryck won he just couldn’t live with killing his brother
Yooo! I noticed how he seasoned the soup too! 😂😂 Also, it seems like inflation hit Westeros too lol
Wait, I thought the Team Black twin is the one who survived, then killed himself after?
I noticed the seasoning the chicken first too 😂
It WAS Rhaenyra’s Sir Erryk who won the fight, and killed himself.
Otto had a prime opportunity to tell Alicent he was proud of her, or even that she did a good job. He entirely ignored that.
Y'all are GREAT...luv seeing yall
Somebody tell him her name is not Rhae-nus 😂😂 it’s Ray-knees
OMG! I was dying in the beginning of this! You guys are hilarious
Otto was pissed
"Let her cooke" lmao i love it
Didn’t Rhaenyra’s beg Daemon to marry her. What did she think was going to happen? Did she think she was going to fix him? He’s Blood of the Dragon. Did she conveniently forget? I love Rhaenyra but she’s said cruel things to him and mocked him. Yet no one ever blames her. Amazing!
Yep, everyone stands by the BossBabe, but Daemon always gets labelled unhinged or evil without tryingg to understand his actions and motivations.
I wonder what Brandon looks like with his hair down.
Not sure I can call Corlys the Sea Snake again without thinking of this video. 😂
episode was hilarious. this trio works well together!
You mean for Helaena here right? 56:59
Rhys Ifans is the God I worship .🐉
Dude played reptiles twice!!!!
Mormont 19:24
Also, how much did the white worm made it in time to find the Black Queensguard A/Erryk, and how much did he figure it out himself (like when he pass by his twin, sort of feel weird, "was that Arryk?" "Something feel wrong?" " I have a bad feeling...")
I think Erryk was the one who survived the fight and finish himself. The show runner confirms it in the after episode bts.
Thank you for including the links (cell#friendly) for the swords....i cant wait to add GOT/HOTD to my collection. Also the breakroom is my fave place to be😍🙏
Don't know where Daeron as a septon in training comes from. In the book he is a cupholder for Lord Hightower, a dragonrider and the most popular of Alicent's sons among the public.
I never thought I'd have sympathy for Otto. Fucking masterful performance by Rhys Ifans
The Hand…..but Alicent knows his finger
I don’t think HBO would show Christian Cole ‘pull out’ 😆
Sir Crispy is a Cancer lol I am convinced! 😊
Rhys Ifans' acting was 10/10 this ep
27:02 it is not shocking that many male actors go the road of being overly thin and losing weight, rather than trying to compete with the Thors of Hollywood 😕
Jess this look is FIRE!!!!!
📌First of all, Otto is winning me over the more he becomes of sound mind. Hilarious how he taunted Aegon😂! ALL FACTS. Rheynera is the true Heir. And Cristin is a forking socio/psychopath OHMYGAH … he weaponized his own guilt by making the Twins (R.I.P.) fight to the death! What the fork😢… Rheynera & White worm are the duo we need. I hope that alliance flourishes.. vaguely remember but they became cool in the book I believe? Duh, of course Aemond is grieving over Luke that whole situation was proof that Vaegar old ass cannot be controlled. She is a battle dragon & Aemond don’t got it like that. He ain’t really like DAT. Last but certainly not least my darling Daemon
🔥🐉 (the parents are fighting) poor Daemon… 😅 I hope they reconcile because he loves his family. Regardless of his own insecurities that he’s dealt with regarding the crown & his Brother it’s true Daemon cannot be trusted because he is the dragon. He’s definitely a conqueror & Viserys is the noble/humble king. At the end of the day Daemon loves his family, full stop.
Oh, Aemond CAN’T SEE DAEMON! What!? Ain’t nobody scared of you boy! Get outta here🤭🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
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I think Erryk found out that his brother was on Dragonstone, when the dude Arryk just relieved ran into him. Like, you just relieved me from my duty???
Erryk found out because Mysaria notices Arryk on the beach when she's leaving. Before it cuts away from her, she gets the attention of the guard that was with her
🐔 Love you Zach!
The Breakroom, "I don't mean to bodyshame"...
then proceeds to bodyshame.
Otto and ALicent about to reap what they have sown.
Noooo where are the wigs? 😂😂
Love from Belgium 🇧🇪 ❤
I’m so sad I connected so much of both of those brothers why
😂 Could we PLEASE 🙏 have some book 📖 spoiler talk! It makes me want to read more ❤
19:20 Lyanna Mormont
W for Zach having his pen 😂
Adam and his brother reminded me of Milli Vinilli
26:50 aemond
🐤🍗chickens for Zach 😂
I don’t think Otto ever wanted Rhanerya as Queen. First thing after Aemma died, Otto wanted Jaherys to remarry.
Pretty sure it was Erryk who won the fight, not Arryk.
Shout to milady, Reba! She was lovely in Tremors
Does anyone know why they aren’t doing the Targaryen’s that can’t get burnt by fire like Daenerys??? Is she the only one??
Lady Mormont of Bear Island
“I don’t wanna body shame anybody BUT…” Also we absolutely have an editor and let’s leave all this in…. Wow. 😐
Forget chess. Cole isn't good at Tic Tac Toe! 😅
can you clearly spell out who killed who and who commit suicide? Go with the Green Kingsguard, and the Black Queensguard???
Jessica is me! Otto sucks but Otta was right up and down in this episode!
The dialogue in this episode was incredible. The various conversations throughout the episode was so mesmerizing. Good writing is good writing.
I could listen to an extended conversation between Rhaenyra and Mysaria for the entire hour. I was into whatever was happening with those two 😅
Even the Otto and Aegon scene was so good.
Love ep really good
🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔 I give this episode 9 out of 10 chickens, dear sir and lady.
Liana Mormont.
I'm Team Black but Team Green had this episode.
🍗🍗 @Zach
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🐓🐓🐓🐓🐓 hope this helps u read zach 😂
With every chicken commented, Zach can read one letter better per script
Y’all supporting the Blackfyres or what? What’s with those dragon banners 😂😂
Team blacks all the way
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I rewatched the first episode and Daemon never says to blood and cheese a son for a son, he only describes Aemon and when cheese asks if they can't find him then what do they do and it cuts, yet blood says in Helenas chamber a son for a son, Daemon totally told them to kill a son if they couldn't find Aemon, there was no mistake, yet I will stay team black to the end 🖤🖤
Lol... I ride dragons all day I can handle this guy
😂😂😂
Lol! Jessica, are you team green just to present a more “balanced” panel for the show? I’ve literally never met a face that is on team green, I always assumed they’re just bots or trolls 😅😂
Team green here, standing by Aemond, "I was bullied and now I kick asses", Targaryen's side. I don't mind Haelena or Otto, I consider Aegon a manchild, and despise Christon & Alicent, the clown pair. The other team is worse, so I stick by the greens, for lack of a better option. Out of all characters I love the twins the most, because they are the only true, honourable, knights in the whole series.
@Cavpal I get what you're saying, but you're still an anonymous faceless example to me right? I meant that I've never MET anyone on TEAM Green or seen a known personality claim to be on team green. Even your breakdown is more Team Aemond than Team Green.
@@eshna2012 Most of my friends can't stand Rhaenyra, but they love Daemon and Aemond, so I guess it's not a clear cut. All the reactors I have seen are team Black, mostly because they consider Rhaenyra as the story's MC, which is the wrong approach to a series based on the ASOIAF world. No single character is the protagonist, no character is safe, anyone could die at any given moment, there's no good side or bad side, everyone is fucked up in his/her own way.
Just cuz everyone is f-ed up in their own way doesn't mean all are equally f-ed up. The majority is on team black because She is the rightful heir and the better ruler compared to her half brother who was never educated to be a leader. 🤷♀️🤷🤷♂️
BTW you 3, loving every minute of this. 🥲😭🤭 Jess + Zach + Brandon ❕
THANKS for this, BR!!!!!
I agree with @lulu_clemons that Cole is not long for this show....
A special thanks for being distinguished among TH-camrs by pointing out that the twin plan *almost worked.*