Could the UNSC survive 40K? - Warhammer/Halo
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- The UNSC has faced many battles in the Halo universe... But none can prepare them for what's ahead.
In this Short story I shall be discussing a possible scenario to what would happen if the UNSC managed to find themselves in the Galaxy of 40K.
From their first encounter to the battles they could face this is one of many possibilities.
But what do you think would happen? Would they perish immediately or would they become the next underdog of the Warhammer series? Let me know your thoughts!
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0:00 Introduction
0:42 A call to arms
5:59 A Greater Good
10:24 The Imperium's Wrath
14:25 Holding the line
18:08 The Angel Vs the Demon
21:56 Spartans Never Die
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I've had quite a few comments asking me to make a video on the Covenant and if they can survive... Ask and you shall receive.
But if you also have any other ideas that you'd like me to cover with a short story on feel free to give me suggestions!
i would love to see this but with more unc forces involved might be interesting if a few worlds came along too with there feets and maybe how the imprium would react if they manged to get a unsc ship intact
It depends on the era
Great crusade imperuim sweeps the covenant no difficulty post great crusade it’s a stalemate unless guilliman or a primarchs is around
Can you do the same thing but for the a covenant fleet like high charity’s fleet or fleets or teleport the entire unsc into warhammer 40k like how pancreasnowork does his halohammer stuff but in a more story oriented sort of way 👌
I think it would be cool to see some alternate world where unsc joined the banished all at peak strength and that version of the banished entered 40k
the covenant would become a fairly large faction, and may be one of the few that doesn't end up fighting a war on all fronts because their hate is reserved specifically for humanity, not to mention theyd be hard to pin down because they dont have a homeworld, theyre all on high charity
the flood, if going unnoticed for long enough to hit gravemind stage, would absolutely devour 40k, this is a parasite similar to tyranids, only instead of developing counters to enemy weapons, they just outright steal them, and, also, when a keymind does form, reality itself is infected by the flood
the forerunners would absolutely dominate 40k and its not even close, its an empire 3 times the size of the imperium and out techs the imperium going as far back as even the dark age, where they were at their technological peak, if the imperium can handle the entire galaxy bearing down on it and WIN alot of those battles, the foreunners, who simply have better everything, can solo
UNSC: We have Warp-free FTL
Cawl and Guilliman in unison, with the Emperor's psychic voice in the background: GIVE THEM ALL THE FUCKING FORGE WORLDS.
Guilliman: GET IT DONE. I DO NOT CARE HOW IN THE FATHER BOUND FUCK IT HAPPENS, JUST MAKE SURE ITS DONE.
Wouldn't be surprised if slipspace WAS the warp, just not all murderebanged by chaos gods
@@jiggler1-1 slipspace is just a void, nothing there.
@@robotwithnoname7677 it's not just a void. When they commit to ftl they pierce the fabric of the universe. And like how as an earthworm digs through the earth. The path behind them closes off. Essentially temporary pockets that slingshot you to where you need to go.
@@jiggler1-1 It works on the same principle. Go into a different space where distances are way shorter.
With how active the Emperor has become, I feel the UNSC's arrival to earth likely would have gone differently. The Emperor with his foresight likely would've known of their coming, or have been made instantly aware of it upon their arrival. While it's difficult to know what the response would be, I'd think he'd want to know more above all else.
Either the Imperium's attack would be called off or it wouldn't have happened. Some sort of tense agreement would be reached to have a representative sent down or up. Due to the delicate nature of the situation, only a Custodes guided by the Emperor could likely be trusted even then I could see him doing that weird custodes possession thing he can do in order to ensure an actual discussion can be had.
The Emperor would quickly learn the truth one way or another; while human they are from another universe or timeline- What matters most is on all accounts they are from somewhere Chaos does not exist. Upon that realization, they immediately become invaluable just by merit of existing.
From that point on, there are many ways it could go, but I think the Emperor's skills (even eroded from sitting on the throne) would largely defuse any immediate conflict unless he could see that the optimal path forward was for the Astartes/Custodes to seize the ship and all it's crew.
One way or another there'd be an exchange of information, the Emperor would see their value and mutual cause and either seek to use their knowledge to fix his own universe or some method of bringing humanity or a good chunk of it into the Halo Universe (All he wants is for Humans to be free of Chaos and on top).
It's important to remember that if the AI are able to even consider they're in a different universe, the Emperor would probably be able to just tell they're from a different one.
That's a great point, but it then brings up the question of if the UNSC is even willing to talk to the Imperium for long enough to form any kind of truce.
The Emperor/Guilliman would be a great start but seeing as how rotten the Imperium is with its disregard for human life in servitors, manufactorums and other areas alongside the sheer religious zealotry it would be extremely horrifying to even consider talking to them in any capacity let alone ally with them.
There may be a truce should the Emperor/Guilliman force it but it would be super uneasy for both sides.
A super cool idea either way!
the moment the empereor sense a ai in the ship, hes sending the entire ship to thendark cells
@COULY_GALLO01-yo6sg the fact that the Dark Angels can used forbidden dark age weaponry upto an including enslaved men of iron suggests otherwise.
Uh, no. They use AI. They are a threat.
@@horrorfan117not only that but peter turbo also created heretical n heratek machines hell his whole honor gaurd is ai robots
The UNSC couldn't even survive in the Halo Universe without a godsend from a long dead alien race
That is very true
the fought a superior race for over 2 decades. the imperial would have been dead against those odds.
@@JayJayM57
They've been doing exactly that for _thousands_ of years against multiple races across the galaxy, just having to fight one would be a vacation!
The UNSC is fighting *_One._* Two, if you want to count the flood. Imperium fights SEVEN on a daily basis for thousands of years, among them are literal daemons from Space Hell that can fuck reality (literally and figuratively), and they've been holding on against all odds for THOUSANDS of years quite well. UNSC is barely surviving against ONE.
Oh, so scary, having to fight One enemy that isn't fucking with reality, fielding billions of hordes on the first day, or sending out snipers hiding in a pocket dimension that can pop your best tank with their basic sniper rifle. The Imperium sure cannot hold a candle against one faction.
The Imperium is literally doing that every second that they exist, across the thousands of worlds being attacked or drivers at any given time...
@@BertoxolusThePuzzled that`s not the issue here. maplemayhem1988 is talking like the UNSC survived via a miracle when the covenant took greater losses the closer they got to earth. in the last 5 years alone the covenant lost 3 fleets and a forge world. also, the UNCS was building a fleet of ARK ships to leave. The Infinity and her 2 sister ships were designed to be arks to turn humanity into a fleet-based race where they could go away and those ships could mine resources, build ships, support a growing population, create Spartans, etc. They had shields, the best FTL around, could take capital ships, and constantly self-upgrade and repair. and they had enough fuel to go on for centuries without resupply. so his assumption of the UNSC is incredibly wrong and laughable if you know anything about 40k lore. the imperium was in constant decline for 10k years surviving only by the will of the imperium guard. the UNSC was constantly evolving and upgrading.
NOW THAT IS HOW YOU HANDLE SPARTAN V SPACE MARINE, THAT WAS AWESEOMMMMEEEE
This is great. Imagine the Tau and the UNSC working together. Spartans in battle suits and Tau ships with slipspace tech would be amazing 🤌🏽
Spartans in Tau armour would be super interesting to see! I love the thought of them pulling similar stunts to the alpha legion of making worlds turn to the Tau empire under the guise of them being Astartes. How effective it would be though is a different question.
U think unsc would allow u filthy xenos 😂😂😂 there human meaning if they don't join imperial guards there getting there head torn of for tge emporor
Say that again, Heretic....
Johnson wearing Ta'u armor would be something I would kill to see
@@Neoth40kYES
Not for long.......humanity probably need to be all Spartans.
They need to up their tech too. The unsc ships is trash.
At least they don't stagnate on tech and they've demonstrated to be able to reverse engineer some stuff. They could probably be a 2nd human faction with some kind of alliance with the tau empire.
@@Wilky971 indeed, they never stop progressing, I suppose the biggest hurdle is surviving long enough to not die completely.
They need more numbers is the problem not enough. If number is not a problem then who knows they might survive
@@Wilky971well I mean to have an alliance with the tau is to be brain washed. The tau are not the good guys
Next do one where an Astartes ship pops up in the Halo Universe
UNSC shows up>"are you peaceful?" the astartes>"do you believe in the god Emperor?" UNSC>"who's that?" Astartes>"anyway we decided they dident deserve to live" and proceeded to send one guy on each planet to "cleanse" the heretics. obv they would then do that for every other race XD at least that's how i see it going. the UNSC tends to try and be "the good guys" and negociate, the imperium dosent care
I think ppl forget that there are a lot of normal human soldiers in 40k Gaunt's Ghosts come to mind
UNSC: is sad and hopeless while under the tau.
Lion El'Jonson and the Risen in their kinda nobel bright proterorit: NOW THIS LOOKS LIKE A JOB FOR ME!
I have a feeling they could get along with the imperium, they are far better at reading the room than anyone in 40k ever will be
not with ai tech
@@tkonlyme consider Votann existing
@@averageeughenjoyer6429 do thry admit they're AI?
@@Rage_Templar no, that’s the reading the room part
@@averageeughenjoyer6429 And they kill anyone who learns about their AIs.
Seemed more of a unsc fleet on 40k.
Would be interesting to see how unsc gaining a pathway to the 40k universe would play out, especially at different points in time for the unsc.
Just before contact at harvest, or before the fall of reach, shortly after the end of halo 3.
Each time period brings different tech and logistic situations for the unsc.
I want to see how the Great Crusade era Imperium would react to the UNSC.
@@terminallove3531bring them into compliance. Really depends on the legion.
@@jpmanning2966
Which Legion would be the kindest with compliance?
Probably the Ultramarines. They would be super hyped about their industrial base and tech. Maybe the iron hands
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
The IH are aholes, according to the Eye of Medusa and Voice of Mars.
Humanity barely survived the covenant, I doubt they’d survive the Orks
At some point 40k won’t survive the Orks, they’re an existential threat that can’t be eradicated.
The orks specifucally are a bad matchup cause the humans would bloody them. The UNSC biggest advantage is that they arent retarded and wont send spartains or marines and the like to deal with orks. They would glass the bitch and move on. Or put up a shield
Horus would have slaughtered the entire Ork, Eldar, Tyranid and Necron species HAD HE NOT GIVEN UP ON HIS POWERS!!!
I honestly cringe whenever ppl try to compare spartans to space marines as they are from both different universes, timelines, and both have different roles in warfare.
But you did an amazing job showing how while spartans can be deadly, astartes can also be deadlier. You perfectly set them up as simply both strong units but 1 can survive longer.
Keep up the good work!
Thank you mate! I tried my best to really show that these two are so much closer in their strengths than people give them credit for, I may be somewhat biased towards the Astartes but I know that a Spartan can still hold their ground and even kill them (depending on the type and chapter) It just came down to one factor really. Durability, in which the Astartes are far more suited than the Spartans.
@@HypospaceYTagreed. I've mentioned this in other threads, a Spartan II vs a recent astartes graduate has about a 2 in 5 chance of victory. A III would have probably a 1 in 5 and a IV maybe a 1 in 10. Depending on the individual Spartan of course. The two super soldiers are in reasonable shouting range of one another ability wise. Of course the gap in capabilities grows with the experience of the Astartes seeing they can have literal centuries of combat capabilities and experience but 1v1 against a new Space Marine and a Spartan does have a shot.
@@joshuahogan3475 depends on which S3 you pick. some of them are deadlier than a S2 due to the unique augments some squads get.
@@TrenchCoatDingo the ones with the best augmentation are the only ones to really consider. All the other S IIIs were nothing more than canon fodder sent on suicide missions. I mean they could probably do a number on a few Imperial World's infrastructure but due to lack of quality equipment and top level augments they wouldn't lose much of a threat to a Space Marine.
@@joshuahogan3475 and then you just have the difference in weapons and armor. true that Spartan's armor has shields, but most of weapons they would have as standard issue wouldn't do jack to Space Marine armor unless they were VERY lucky in hitting a weak spot. where as a Bolter is just death every round, worse than Brute shot.
Great story! I saw PancreasNoWork's video on the UNSC in 40k a few months back. This story matches up closely with one of his scenerios where the UNSC are bombarded by threats before they can get a foothold on any planets.
I gotta agree with Pancreas that if the UNSC were to fortify themselves in at least a couple systems and get some good industry going under the radar, then they'd be a formidable force in the 40k galaxy. It all really depends on the circumstances they enter the setting under.
Honestly, the UNSC are probably the ONE faction that would be an absolute NIGHTMARE to deal with if they get the time to turtle up and remain hidden, they may have been getting their asses handed to them by the Covenant but for every battle that delayed the Covenant that was valuable time for the UNSC to do a great many things to try and scratch out the odds from being so stacked against them. Time wasn't on the UNSC's side in Halo, if it was it would have been a fair fight more often than not.
Only if they strike a truce with one of the larger faction. The zelots in the imperium would instantly kill them the eldar if in a good mood might spare them the tau would accept and the chaos would never get on their best bet is with the tau and fly under the radar till they can get enough manpower and resources to not get smited by the imperium
bold of you to assume the imperia can reach them.
Best bet would be the Eldar or tau
@@spartanx9293 honestly best bet would probably be Farsights tau over the tau as a whole, but most definitely tau. Best bet with humans might be running into a group like the ultramarines or Salamanders first. The space marines over the imperium might actually talk before firing. Though the imperium in general tends to not.
@VLK_Static The issue is the unsc operates under a democratic system Cyrene was destroyed by the imperium for doing this
A Tau and UNSC alliance is a frightening idea
The Covvies showing up would also be an interesting foil to the Tau and an annoyance to the Imperium, as a somewhat larger, but not that large, xenos empire rallying against humanity. They'd get plenty of recruits into the fold as well, but run into enough trouble to keep them very busy.
Kind off, as a side character perhaps, but in all honesty no not really, again if it’s the entire UNSC, then they’d be in a similar situation as the tau but much weaker, since they don’t all use gundams, but what the UNSC lacks in overlapping or overwhelming power, they make up for it in their flexibility and adaptability, and again considering that most planets in the UNSC have an orbital defense system as well as a stable FTL system along with AI, does make them a dangerous force to be reckoned with, but again, if we’re going with pre covenant war UNSC, the fact that the UNSC’s ships lacks any form of shields or shielding and relies solely on their point defenses and sheer weight of armor, isn’t going to be all that effective when you consider that an imperial lance turret is the equivalent of a covenant glassing laser, where it’s been clearly shown that a single shot from a covenant glassing beam is enough to cut a UNSC autumn class heavy cruiser in half and a macro cannon would basically be akin to the shots fired by four MAC cannons fired from an ODP, again in a straight up fight, the UNSC isn’t going to win, again considering that the standard ma5c fires the equivalent of a modern 7.62 AP round which yes is okay at killing something more human sized, is completely and utterly pointless or useless when you’re dealing with say a hoard of orks or a swarm of Tyranids in which even killing something like an elite usually requires the user to dump half a magazine into them before they’re killed and the best comparison in the halo universe would be akin to an army of brutes mixed with the durability of a hunter, again even lasbolts which would be equivalent to the DMR from halo reach requires something akin to half a power pack just to drop a single ork, and again that’s not including things like say for example armor which an ork typically wears, there’s a reason why in 40K there are things like castles or fortresses or giant defensive structure is because, to simply put it overwhelming firepower is utterly and completely useless and irrelevant if the enemy has already closed into melee range in which outside of a tau or even an eldar, everything else is far larger and stronger than your average space marines to the point where even space marines tend to have trouble when dealing with orks due to how resilient they are to damage as well as to how physically strong they are, whilst again the UNSC has access to better and cleaner tech than that of the imperium, again even something as silly s Their main battle tanks would be easily destroyed due to the fact that whilst a high velocity 90mm cannon might be enough to injure a swarmlord, that’s about it, unless you’re talking about a grizzly then perhaps it could take on a tyrant guard but even then, what about the other millions of hormagaunts and other smaller Tyranid lifeforms charging the tank, since outside of the likelihood that the scorpion is given a coaxial chain gun in its turret, the only other option are the right guys with rifles sitting on the side skirts or the poor sod in the heavy machine turret getting ripped to shreds or blown up with the vehicle, again whilst the halo warthog is cool, it’s exposed compartments and lack of any actual protection is more likely to result in the occupants being eaten alive by the living ammunition of the tyranids, shot or blown to pieces by the orks or imperium, again imagine if reach was forced to undergo say an ork invasion kinda like the third war for Armageddon or an invasion by the tyranids, not to mention the corrupting influences of chaos or the taint spread by genestealer who can pass as a human unless they’re biologically scanned and checked, then entire genestealer cults would start popping up everywhere but even then there would still be the massive or utter lack of resources and available ammunition,
Depends on if it's pre or post war tech level post war they do have their own mechs and limited energy weapons like the brightlance
@@spartanx9293 agreed
@@spartanx9293 or the infinity
If UNSC's assets included the entire Onyx , the situation would be very different.
Forerunner sees the humans of the UNSC universe as Reclaimer.
Forerunner has inserted genesong into the genes of humans in Halo tens of thousands of years ago.
so that humans can have the highest level of access to Forerunner's legacy .
(Imagine that , just like the IOM humans have the ability and full access to control Necrons creations)
"high velocity 90mm cannon might be enough to injure a swarmlord"
Theres no way you just implied a swarmlord is surviving a fucking tank shell to the jaw log off buddy wtf is that im cryin
Honestly, im just imagining the UNSC engineers arguing incessantly with the mechanicums adepts about how to turn on a microwave 😂
Now do one where the UNSC runs into the Drukhari. I want to hear the Spartan's thoughts as he's made into furniture.
The Angels of Death against the Deamons of the UNSC… this battle will e glorious.
I mean spacemarines still take the cake for many reasons
Don't need to waste your time
The Librarians and Knights would get the job done
Just make sure you didn't late or some crazy Inquisitor will bombardier the planet
Tbh even Masterchief would struggle to take down a single Tactical Marine. Any marine above the rank and file would completely obliterate him.
@@MinoTaurus205Statistically there is One maybe two librarians per chapter
@enigmachinasclass8153 Not really Shoot a space marine with a gauss rifle ans their dead My go to citation has always been fire team omega
I would think it'd be more considered a lost era human coming back home. 🤔 ehile they wouldn't hesitate to destroy them but they would more likely open up negotiations
40K kicks arse and takes names, shows up without a pencil.
Absolutely loved this, more UNSC stories involving other the 40K universe would be most welcome. Thanks for this
If the Imperium wasnt so trigger happy they could have opened a dialogue with the splinter fleet of the UNSC. There has to be someone smart enough, maybe a tech-priest or a well-learned captain, to realize that the UNSC were human. This would allow the splinter fleet to explain why they have AI and that they are more confused than the imperials are. UNSC would eventually explain that they thought that they were orbiting Earth, rather than "Holy Terra", they have non-warp ftl drives that are way more efficient than warp drives (cue Mechanicus oiling their collective robes), and they also have their own breed of bio-enhanced super soldiers which are more close to Astartes than the Imperium realizes (maybe even use the UNSCs data to make Spartans for the Millitarum, though thats doubtful cause honestly I love Spartans, but the Astartes are basically Spartans but better).
The Imperium would eventually welcome the UNSC fleet and share technology with them as well as explaining on their end what they're all about (though I doubt the UNSC personnel would be down with the whole theocracy thing). Gulliman (assuming this takes place when he is now Lord Commander) would be facinated with the UNSC and basically grant them immunity; gicing them intel, arms, training, a contingent of Primaris to assist the Spartans, and maybe even have the Mechanicus retrofit their fleet to some degree with newer and shiner toys (guns, like really big fucking guns). At some point, the splinter fleet would find themselves at odds with the home fleet they separated from. Now THAT is a battle I would love to speculate about! Two sides that came from the same place, but sheltered in different forms and bolstered by different galactic powers.
Thats a really cool idea! But i am sorry if what i will say next sounds like party pooping.
The Imperium Does not reason, AI is a sin and the UNSC will be made into Servitors if they dont watch their own back 24/7. Sadly, Roboute can't be up to date on everything in the Imperium, so i doubt he would even realize what happened.
This would be such a good storyline to eventually see the two different unsc factions grow apart from each other and become different entities all together until eventually they meet each other again a couple hundred years later and immediately start fighting as both are now kinda just sub factions of the imperium and tau respectively
Probably cheaper to engineer than Astartes by comparison.
The Spartan's strength is its light weight for its weight class.
This results in good acceleration.
However, I won't deny the durability of the Astarte . The Astarte is very durable.
(The Spartan is currently in service for less than 50 years , and is expected to last a century, with no indication of whether it will last much longer .)
On the other hand
Spartans can even have offspring , which makes them more versatile.
Men and women can become Spartans, and the success rate of Spartans in the 3rd generation is extremely high.
Imagine a planet of billions of people, all made up of Spartans III, with a few of them becoming Spartans II.
"This would allow the splinter fleet to explain why they have AI "
Unfortunately for the UNSC to the Imperium of Man and the Mechanicus there is no reason they could give that would save them from immediate obliteration and that planet they contacted would probably under a very real threat of exterminatus as a way to ensure no "abominable intelligence" has a chance of hiding on it. As the old Imperial saying goes: "Innocence proves nothing."
The UNSC wouldn't be the 1000th non-imperial Humans the IOM has encountered and they wouldn't be the 1000th they exterminated by the 41st millennium.
Can you make a series about this but with the whole universe because this would be like that Star wars vs 40k one
Wow this was really good, I'm glad that you are continuing the crossovers. I was looking forward to seeing the entire UNSC in 40K maybe just before the war to help with inconsistencies but I understand that would probably be a lot longer story and I feel like you provided an accurate comparison when it comes to strength between the factions and that ending was the most likely besides the UNSC fleet getting completely destroyed. 2 things I will say though is that I'm pretty sure the UNSC only blows up their ship reactors and does not do a operation upper cut every time they initiate the Cole protocols but I guess that captain wanted to be extra sure lmao. Also with the fight between the spartan and the astartes I think it would of been cool if the spartan used the fail safe detonation system and took the astartes out with it. In regards to suggestions the obvious big hitters besides the covenant is ancient humanity/ancestors, the forerunners and the flood and/or the precursors since spoiler: Epitaph confirmed they are the same thing just at different levels of complexity. However if you want to do smaller inclusions like with this then perhaps you could do the banished or the didacts approach while was on its way to Earth. You could even do the UNSC Infinity when it made that random slipspace jump but it probably wouldn't be much different from this despite being way way way stronger its just not enough to start a interdependent faction, unless it becomes the unsc version of a craftworld which I guess was its intended purpose in lore. Anyways, great video I hope you continue this series.
T'au Spartans sounds sick, and would be a really neat conversion. I know what to do with a few Spartans from the Halo: Flashpoint game coming out later this year o7
Yes, if the Tau can. So can the UNSC.
UNSC actually understands their own tech and uses effective strategies other than “throw meat into the grinder.”
@@sidecharacter7165 Their actions state otherwise.
the tau are imune to chaos, had 4+k years time to beef up thier tech as a race written to growth to fast for thier own good, have atleast dozen of times more numbers and ultimatly living in a very remote corner of the 40k universe
a 2.3k humanity without any god emporers and basicly one real planet at any time in the story will surely do well^^
I did a timeline video which included the halo universe, I basically think of it as dark age of technology era
Pretty much. Rogue AI, FTL travel, Neurolinks, Multiverse bullshit. Halo basically is the dark age of technology lol. 'Nids are just what happen to The Flood after an extra 25,000 years.
great video, loved how you did justice for both the spartan and space marine. only critique is even if the Spartan's body was paralyzed the armor would still move thanks to the neural bridge that links directly between the spartan's brain and armor and though not used often/at all in the lore a spartan can remove the safety limiters on their micro-fusion reactor to vaporize anything and everything in a roughly 20 meter radius with just a thought. but still a great fight
But armor is not indestructible
Of course spartan would move
Excellently done dude can't wait for more
Bro don’t let this series finish stretch it out as long as you can 👌
The UNSC could make for a solid guardsman regiment. Bear in mind they are known for having very advanced training as the UNSC beat the Covenant on most ground engagements, only losing to orbital bombardment. Spartans could serve as an elite spec ops force capable of infiltration missions and, assignments making Space Marine deployment less neccesary in certain scenarios. Cortana could probably be passed off as a machine spirit, considering she was created using human DNA and is technically not fully inorganic. The Imperium would simply need to augment them with some better technology for combat. Slip space is far faster than Warp travel and far more safe. This could lead to the imperium no longer relying on warp travel if the UNSC teams up with the mechanicus and mass produces the slip space drives. The large increase in resources and planets would allow for much greater fielding and creations of Spartans of various levels of design(Spartan 2s, and Spartan 3s would be created in mass due to hive worlds having billions of potential candidates. Spartan 4 augments could also help with increasing the effectiveness of adult Guardsman commisars, officers, and tempestus scions). ONI definitely may find themselves in trouble if they try to reverse engineer xeno technology but considering the Mechanicus is sketchy at times, they may be able to hide this. I
TLDR: Overall I think the UNSC could function quite well as an Auxillary faction and/or Guardsman regiment for the Imperium. As a bonus combat shielding, and less invasion augmentations may be able to limit casualties and increase effectiveness of human units. (if properly tuned for the scale of 40k weapons).
UNSC would rebel at mind control and forced religious indoctrination, and they'd be so naively vocal about it (when you lived in a world where freedom of speech is a fundamental right, and fundamental human rights does exist, you can make rookie mistakes like theses in 40K). Enough to ensure there would be no UNSC member left within a year of them integrating the Imperium; but some of their tech will remain and be put to good use... For the Emperor!
This was incredibly fun to listen to.
I would like to see something similar but with the Infinity fleet of post war tech.
Considering what the UNSC was able to achieve until now, it will probably fix for good the galaxy of 40k. 😤
Not even going to lie, the spartans fit pretty fucking good into 40k universe. “SIR WE’RE OUT OF AMMO” “Then we’ll play their game"
Dude 🔥 🔥. Bravo 👏. Great Video Hope to Watch More in the Future.
This is really well written.
How do you think this would play out? 👀
If we going by book lore Spartans have better strength and speed feats then named space marines
This video was good ... VERY GOOD ... Are you planning on making a Could the COVENANT survive 40K? (Other options you could do: Arbiter's Swords of Sangheilos / Atriox's Banished / the Forerunners / the FLOOD )
I'm definitely up for making videos like that 100%! I've already got a few lined up including one that you've just mentioned and several other ideas from other universes. But seeing as I've had multiple ask me for a covenant video it looks like that one might be bumped up the list!
Can you do warframe there seriously not a single good video of one....
Warframe got so many similarly of warhammer like they got there own version of the warp which is the void the tenno are immune by it. If they're in the warp, they are mostly immune by the corruption since they already corrupted by the void.
So fair there is one God but still a mystery, it said this God is fair stronger then the 4 chaos gods mostly due. It own the void by itself, still don't know if it sentience. Eventually we will learn what it is or wants.
Anyways enemies of warframe is crazy like the grineer, there armor can be compared with Spartans armor but without a power armor, they are like 1/4 strength protection without shield. It stupid heavy about 1000 pounds. All that weight is lift up by there strength alone that why I said no power armor. They are originally created as slave labor clones which is why they are so strong carrying or lifting things.
Anyways the biggest threat would be the tenno with there warframe suit, they are too strong both physically and 5th Dimension powers.
The enemies name the sentient is basically stronger versions of the necrons
Eh I forgot to mention the warframe is basically the Golden Era of their time but majority of the technology is gone.
Anyways please look into it, warframe is very deep in lore like warhammer 40k
I forgot to mention they do have there own version of dreadnought in warframe for a player to control called the nekomech.
They got crew ship player can control name railjack etc there so much to do in this game
After watching this definitely it be very hard to try be independent traveling the world of warhammer 40k too many enemies want you dead.
Tenno from warframe would be the only faction that can truly independent by themselves. I can imagine them flying into imperial ships without them noticing with there void stealth technology.
Many times tenno able to park there ship next to enemies capital ship like they are blind to see. It really that stealthy. Most importantly tenno can easily kill a space marine, they are more beyond super soldiers. They're more like demi gods of super soldiers. I'm more interested how does the world of 40k interact the tenno. They can't be killed in battle, they can destroy there warframe body many times they want. But they will always stand up, the factions of 40k point of view would see them as a mystery alien that suddenly shows up easily take over planets by themselves to protect. I be interested to see a single tenno shows up middle of ork roar, while the imperial trying to defend but losing. Who knows if tenno drop in and help them out.
goddam ur a great storyteller. awesome vid
Thank you!!!
This was so enjoyable you should do more of this :D
Dude that was peobably the best vs the Imperium video i have ever see. You defenitely have done youre homework.
The Emperors Most Holy Inquisition is very veeeeeery happy 😂😂😂
Yeahhh... Idk man. Your Spartan vs Space marine scene was complete fanservice...
I get the emperor made the armor and everything but these are future Tech pistols too and you described a point blank shot to a vulnerable area.
Depending on the specific round the Spartans had in their M6 and what Mk the Astartes was wearing then its 100% plausible even shots there wouldn't penetrate. Anything stronger definitely would have went through though.
A spartan going up against a space marine with only an ma5 and m6d Is an unfair fight Not impossible but very slanted in the space marine's favor a gauss rifle or hydra would be needed
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The Spartans may have chosen to use a super-hardened armor piercing bullet (.30 caliber).
In the halo novels, the rebels used these super armor-piercing bullets.
It even dented the shell of a Fenrir bomb, which was able to contain the blast for a full second.
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Considering humanity has access to forerunner tech or whatever, whilst the current 40k is in a technical technological dark ages, it’d be pretty short lived
Forerunner tech is shit any day and every day
@@mervinreyes3008 ok, see who’s genius is better here, likely yours given you’re more in-depth with 40k because I was going to say 40k besides dark ages technology. Given the most advanced technology in halo is neural based and the truest extent of its ability isn’t told, which in modern science everything is being proven to be neurologically connected, I say halo smacks 40k since they don’t have anything for universal or galactic level destroyers that I know of besides that star map system that those Necros or whoever have that risks universal annihilation just by sweeping your hand through whatever part of it. To me, they are equals, not to mention 40k is way further in the future than halo, so by technical standard, they do win, but humans in halo have access to precursor technology, and 40k even mentions precursor reality, so if you ask me, it’s just a game of tag
forerunner tech is insanly powerful, the ark and halo array could kill all life in the 40k galaxy, from what i remember, the forerunners could harvest energy from a different universe for power, they are around the level of the war in heaven katan/necrons if not abit higher
@@soudino2723 wait, hold up, instead of them going to that techno heaven, they created their own universe?
@@Elasquantum they drilled into another universe for energy from what i remember, and they are strong enough to dominate all factions in the current 40k setting( keep in mind that this wasent special to the forerunners, it was more like a small side project)
This is an amazing story you've written.
6:44 I like this so far! Grounded and logical.
Yeah it can and it will, slipspace is not the warp after all.
It is now, as it is connected to 40k galaxy.
@@velstadtvonausterlitz2338 plus the UNSC still has to deal with orks, tyrannids, necrons & chaos corruption/ the fact that daemons can & will corrupt/ possess UNSC AI's.
which is terrible because UNSC society is so heavily automated with AI's just like the federation of man was during the 15th - 25th millennium.
the UNSC are ill prepared for Ork hordes, Chaos warbands, Necron legions or Tyranid swarms.
they would get pulverized so bad from all directions that either the survivors flee to join the imperium, stay & get betrayed by their own AI's or get slaughtered by xeno's or chaos.
simply put the UNSC is not equipped or ready to survive the short term, never mind the immense timescale Warhammer operates at.
@@velstadtvonausterlitz2338 That's something completely different.
The UNSC wouldn't fall like that. They'dve successfully set up elsewhere and reverse engineered technology.
They reserve engineering because fouruners alow them to do that
damn that was awesome. can you do more of these videos pls ?
this is interesting but I think you forgot how big Imperial Space is and how fast UNSC ships are. the imperial can try to chase but with UNSC AI and slipspace, they can outrun all of their attempts. the imperial is also too big, and due to a poor filing system, they lost entire worlds. the UNSC can just move away from segmental terra and be fine, they are systems where the imperial shows up every 100 years or so. this makes for a far less interesting story compared to the one you told but one more likely to be. lastly, if you want the story to feel more organic I would recommend using the infinity next time. the original purpose of the Infinity was to be part of a mobile fleet to save humanity from extinction. just say Halo 3 didn`t happen and the humanity in Halo got as many people as they could on ships but were attacked by the covenant before they were ready. they activated the infinity forerunner slip space before it was properly installed and something went wrong. they were now in the 40k galaxy with most of their ships holding civilian populations in a space-fearing fleet.
almost forgot, call it heresy but depending on the chapter the Spartans will destroy the space marines. most space marines follow a warrior code and as such leave themselves exposed. and while they are stronger than Spartans, Spartans are better-trained combatants. Spartans without sword training have matched elite sword masters.
The Spartans might have a small chance for a day or 2. but the UNSC as a whole have no chance in hell, military power is not large enough to start with
the only issue being that while spartans have an upper hand against normal troops shield regeneration being huge, the numbers are crazy and they are out matched by space marines in everything but agility and personal shielding so if they arrive its just game over (although if you do the math per lore there is 1000 chapters limited to 1000 matines (most chapters) thata only 100,000 would they bother using them against the unsc outside of them arriving on a major planet
@@maddawg9882no they're not
@@maddawg9882When you compare the average spartan vs the average space marine. I do think that the average Spartan can come out uptop. That's about it though. And it's also pretty depedent on the chapter. Like a minotaur in my opinion, would demolish a spartan. But the raven's and the wolves, I can see losing against one.
The Space Marines will outnumber a spartan, There were only 33 Spartan IIs that passed the augmentations without any problems that we're aware of. And there were only 930 Spartan 3s. And even though the spartan 3s were just as capable as the 2s. They got wasted in suicide missions. Upset for GAMMA company.
A space marine weapons on the average is gonna be stronger. Granted I do think that there are weapons that a spartan has access too that can demolish a space marine. That being the Spartan Laser, their SPNKRs, grenade launchers, The Stanchion, and SRS. But that's about it. A spartan's battle rifle nor are their MAs gonna do shit.
Both space marines and spartans have been shown on being able to use vehicles as weapons, tearing through tank hatches; and alotta other crazy shit.
But once we get into Space marine sergeants, and the more experieced of the bunch. It just doesn't become even.
I do think that the spartan's advantages over a space marines is their versatility, their armor, (If we get into Mark VI, Gen 2, Mark VII, And Gen 3), their ai (if they have one). And technology. Spartan's being able to overshield, cloak, see almost everything with VISR, is just a great ability to have.
But even then, they're neck to neck.
@thadmeboy1129 what not though? multiple things are said and nothing said would be have "their not tho" as a valid reply
@justapersonz5441 i wasnt arguing the spartans have a chance against a space marine, i was saving 2 days was a low number against a non military planet, and your not wrong on what you said, 2 days isnt even plausible against space marines
I'm also heard that Terra was moved from Earth's initial position at some point during the Age of Technology and with all the Warp Shenanigans and tens of thousands of years of time passed there's no chance that Splipspace Topography wasn't altered if not completely thrown out of wack from what the UNSC knows and the Ships sent to earth wouldn't have ended anywhere near where they thought Earth Was.
Next video. Spacegodzilla in the 40k universe.
great video, can you do one with the covenant?
It's certainly on the table! If enough people ask for it I'll do it sooner but for now I have got other video ideas that I'm working on currently 😄
@@HypospaceYT if you are going to do one about the covenant in the future could you give them a large enough fleet to where they could stand a chance, like giving them high charity and the entire fleet around it
Oh absolutely!
The UNC would stand no chance against a legion of astartes and psykers let alone a legion of knights or larger.
The UNSC fights Covenant Scarabs which are comparable enough to minor titans. The typical way to defeat those is via heavy air support. A UNSC Longsword is not far removed from a Tau Tiger Shark, . They'd be nasty as hell if air assets are tied up and unavailable however. Astartes would be too much save for perhaps ideal conditions/combined arms.
You compare Covenant Scarabsto imperial knights?
Good joke
@@whiteeye3453 Not to mention that they weren't even performing well against Scarabs.
@@RJALEXANDER777 you sure know that even small titans have VOIDSHIELDS right?
40k knows different types of "nergyshields" even the imperium is able to produce planet wide energyshields, basicly all mechanicus forgeworlds have one
and for titans or capital ships they have voidshields one of the last true golden age tech 40k humans can still reproduce
comparing a scarab even to an imperial knight is already delusional^^
"a musket from 16th is not far removed from a bmg sniper" these are merely 400 years expierence of warfare between, while you compare basicly 37.6k years difference of warfare just to show how absurd such comparrasions are
Nice to see you gave the unsc a modicum of a chance, with their only real limiting fact being their woefully small size in comparison to everything else.
I even enjoyed the Astartes vs Spartan fight and how it did make sense. They're roughly equal to each other, but there's no way the Spartan could know just how tanky Astartes could be.
Awesome video, love the story
Can the tau survive in the halo universe
Definitely. They would probably be either the second most powerful or most powerful faction in the modern times of the Halo Universe (2568). And while not the largest in terms of size. They would be very powerful. I mean the Tau have all the advanced technologies of both the Covenant and the UNSC(besides slipspace) and more. Their guns are better than the Covenant's and UNSC guns
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It's hard to say.
UNSC's vehicle-mounted Vulcans fire at 44 times the speed of sound.
Tau's gauss gun isn't that fast.
And the FTLs are not nearly as fast.
Before the war, the UNSC was traveling two light-years a day , about the same as the IOM.
After the war, the UNSC's speed reached 800 light-years per day , crossing the entire galaxy in 180 days, a speed that the IOM couldn't even imagine .
Tau ships are traveling slower than the IOM in light years per day .
@@orionakd And they put 90mm cannons on their MBTs at the same time.
Imperial FTL goes 90 light years per day btw.
@@nobleman9393 If 90mm could do what it's supposed to do there would be no need to keep adding numbers , you could even argue that it's lightweight due to progress.
Also the problem with Imperial FTL velocities in 40K is that the data is very inconsistent , judging trans-galactic velocities can vary from a few years to a year , not to mention the dangerous WARP dimensions .
Slip space, on the other hand, is not as problematic , and in fact such a technology in the 40K universe would surely make Guillimane or the god Emperor give direct orders for friendly diplomacy.
@@orionakd a gaus canon which fires projektiles 13.7km/sek, but has a range of merely 8km...^^
tau railguns are "slower" and have even subsonic amounition, but the heavy railguns can be faster if wantet
not to mention...
actual railguns (the heavy mountet ones) shoot with mach7, and that over 150km
im pretty sure they meant 4.4mach, which wouldf be still awesome
and even if ftl would work without issue (because humanity and all other races, including necrons are to dumb for basic ftl each young star empire need as base tech) warp travel is unreliable, but not "really" faster or slower in the end, with luck you just need seconds to minutes to cross the whole galaxy, if unlucky your voyage will take 800 years
You undersold the spartans but other than that i liked it
Not really? They owned Imperial navy personnel, and with inferior weaponry on hand proved capable of taking an Astartes down in melee of all things. Failing only because they weren't anticipating the sheer superhuman toughness of one. That's more credit than a lot of people would give a Spartan facing the Imperium.
Honestly, the Spartans and Astartes were done perfectly, well done
Super amazing video! Could you do one where instead of them only a fleet being put into the 40K universe it’s the entire unsc planets and systems? And it’s set to after the covenant and they just get discovers by 40K?
hold up a las gun staggers them? spartans fight the covenant who use straight up plasma rounds
In the story.
Spartans can crouch and dodge within two meters.
11 Mach particle cannons allow a Forerunner drone that can think in picoseconds to hit its own friendlies, I don't think the IG can hit a Spartan.
@@orionakd if insurrectionists and covenant can then so can the guard.
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This is from a situation in the bungie storyboard , not in the game.
Covenant and insurrectionists I don't know anyone who can have that level of reflex response speed to dodge an 11 mach particle beam in two meters .
Additionally the Spartans have a much smaller projected area and are proven to have a short range acceleration of 100KM or more, which would make it extremely difficult for mortals to hit a Spartan .
In fact, even when the Spartans were each using the Forerunner's 11 Mach particle rifle , they still failed to hit each other , which is insane.
@@orionakd just because a gun is fast doesn’t mean it can’t be dodged, hell if I saw a guy pointing a gun at me I’d be able to dodge into cover and avoid a few shots
@@Epsilon-5 It's just saying that it's hard for a normal human to keep up with a Spartan , similar to a space marine versus a mortal.
This is pretty decent. But the Soace Marine fight was… meh. Thing is that Spartans are equivalent to superior to space marines in almost every way. That space marines punch wouldn’t have been any worse than getting hit by another Spartan, hell the shield should have stopped it from hurting him. Scorpion Tanks have FALLEN ON Spartans only to walk away after. They don’t have redundant organs, they just have super ones. With their armor being leagues above what space marines have including nano machine self repair. And the thing with the shields? UNSC Autocannons are described as “harmlessly smattering against them” in several books. Hell the magnum would have worked decently, it’s an armor penetrating high explosive projectile, being used against a ceramic armor. Each shot would have blown chunks out of the space marines armor while the space marine could shoot the Spartan, the Spartan could retreat, and play a game of cat and mouse the marine has very little chance of winning in large part because he doesn’t have a shield!
Awesome job! 👍🏽🙌🏽
chief fell in love with an ai he will fall to chaos 100%
Ha no they barely survived the covanent and they would likely only survive in 40k so the UNSC? Yea no they will be wiped out. We have seen similar battles in the HH series of what the battle would be like.
Considering that the covenant is a wide spread alien coalition with huge numbers and standard issue plasma weapons and personal shields. I think it's very possible for the unsc to fill a niche not unlike the tau. Too much effort to deal with, not enough to make any true shifts in the galactic power struggle.
@@justinholt7059this. Not to mention their ships are leagues faster than the imperiums. They’d probably get into a skirmish and have their ass handed to them a couple times before saying “Adios” and finding a cozy spot at the corner of the galaxy to set up shop and maybe reverse engineer some tech while they’re at it. I could see the UNSC ending up merging with the tau, giving the tau reliable faster than light travel and smart ais, while offering the UNSC sanctuary and a boost in resources.
Also magnum shots to the neck would’ve absolutely killed the space marine. APHE 50 action express rounds are no joke.
@@mysteriousstranger5873lmao you do know even if someone shoots the spacemarine in the neck with the magnum the spacemarinevwill still live. The wound would start to clot and heal, and the spacemarine would have all kinds of stimulants to keep him alive as well. Granite he won't have a throat the spacemarine can hold his breath for 6mins and even longer. Also the marine might just survive the magnum shot theres been instances where spacemarines lose the whole right or left side of their face and head and they'll walk it off. So yeah halo guns got shit
Yes it could fight them, as the imperium is streached thin and probably wouldn't pay too much mind as they bigger fish to fry. Safe slip space is an advantage and their tech leves are about tau level. The imperium could destroy them and the tao but dont because its not worth diverting enough resources
HOLY SHIT MASTERPIECE ❤
That Spartans death genuinely made me mad
19:15 a Spartan would easily be able to lift a space marine with differing levels of struggle like a Spartan 2 would have no issue rag dolling a space marine though a Spartan 3 would struggle but would be able to do it though not rag dolling the space marine so it must be a Spartan 4
That was great!
1 reason the UNSC wouldn't survive in 40K, hive fleet. Then you have Orks and if they did fight or resist the Imperium, Astates would just walk over them. The shock and awe tactics along with librarians would just be too much.
This was a great listen!
I think a more interesting scenario would involve the UNSC being pulled into the 40k verse by some sort of xeno tech that happened to be activated by a Rogue Trader. He is immediately intrigued and starts to talk to them. He is his own master and though he serves the aimperium his curioisity and seeing the potential in selling "alien" human tech is too strong to ignore and he keeps them around. UNSC learn all about the Imperium and try to lay low out of their way while they gather info from scouting and small incursions
I think Spartans would fill a squad based niche just above Sisters of Battle in power per unit/squad effectiveness. They'd do fine, but they'd go extinct in a very short time due to their low numbers and difficulty making more.
As soon as the Imps discover the Spartan's reliance on AI, though, they'd probably be forced to surrender the tech or die. Chaos machine spirits corrupting advanced AI would be immensely dangerous.
UNSC teamed up with Starfleet Command and the Tau... well they might be able to hold a sector. Maybe.
Great video
What if the covenant and unsc joined forces in the 40k universe as they’d need each other to survive
I don’t know what I expected.
Chief: *tosses a jar with a infection form in it onto a random forge world.* "we're leaving a FTL ship in that cave. GG? Do ur Thang floodiboo"
Gg
you need to make a part 2 of this but without the part of unsc being a tau pet state
I don’t think you can say the UNSC if it’s just one fleet. That’s like saying the Imperium, but it’s just one battle fleet and a planetary invasion force.
Wait a second... at 23:45 How would Dark eldar take over a ship with Spartans on it? A single Astarties, one normal woman, and a dog killed an entire raiding party in like 2 minutes. Spartans travel in Fireteams, there is no way a Drakari raid can capture a ship with a whole Spartan II or III Fireteam on board. The normal humans on board, RIP, but not the Spartans.
I've never heard of the Astra Militarum running from an enemy in fear.
That's because a lot of the time they don't get the chance, getting gunned down either by the enemy or their pissed off local Commissar. They are, however, still regular humans and very much know fear. hell, I'd run too if I saw some guy in weird power armor doing shit I'd only ever heard of Space Marines doing.
The Imperium could theoretically destroy them. But it would take so much ressources that they would likely not do it
The UNSCs plot armor is about as thick as the imperium
Please do part 2
The answer to the question of wether or not the unsc can survive in 40k or the covenant is the same it depends on the era of the imperium
Great crusade imperium-unsc survives but gets absorbed into the imperuim . The covenant gets annihilated though
Post Horus heresy-unsc gets destroyed due to ai but covenant stalemates due to it and imperuim being surrounded on all sides
Indomitus crusade- if guilliman and cawl meet the unsc leaders first then things should look good otherwise unsc gets destroyed
Całe is Mary sue
40K & Halo. - A crossover that I didn't know I wanted until just now!
However, if I may give you some advice: instead of using generic footage, it would have been much better to create something suitable for the story. Either your own footage, which is probably too expensive, or AI-generated footage.
I'm 5 minutes in and I'm hooked😶
Very well written
Everybody seems to have forgotten how the unsc ai controled weapons on any ship whould completely out class anything the imperium can use freely. Unsc ships would simply dodge and return near perfect counter fire. Plus the unsc is actually capable of replacing its best equipment. Sure the imperium is deadly on the ground but the unsc can simply deny any them any advantages by using superior quality communication and recon.
The imperium would demand compliance, the UNSC would object reach would fall then the covenant falls next!
No one individual survives for long, but humanity marches on, and any formation that can hold for 28 days is guaranteed support by very, very angry menstruating space marines.
22:00 I would have used fire team omega Mostly people need to get it out of their heads.But Spartans do not only use the generic infantry weapons of the u.N.S c marines They use anything and everything
they'll survive, they won't thrive but they will survive
an interesting thought experiment, me likey. imma honor him on his throne on terra and spark up the trusty hooka and then listen very intensely. 1:45 in and holy hell you narrate compelling!
yes, god i love this so much. goosebumps in places i didnt know could shiver.
you should keep doing this.
fitting ive just came from darktide gaming for some food and herbs, and am going back to darktide. FOR TEH EMPRAH
If only the entire UNSC was made up of spartans. Now that'd be one hell of an army
More please :)
That marine fight was just soooo bad assss.