2021 2022 2023 2024 KTM 1290 Super Adventure Touratech Pannier installation
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- More 2021 2022 1290 SAS video on my channel.
Just a short video on how to install the Touratech pannier and mount onto the 2021 KTM 1290 Super Adventure.
I could not find any manual online at the time. So the best alrernative is to add panniers in the bike configurator on the KTM website and look at the photo. And take as much info from that as possible.
Overall I think it looks good.
Channel Link to Other Videos.
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Hope it helps!
Cheers
Ric - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Cheers Ric, I've had these racks in a box for 12 months and they are going on this weekend! Great tutorial as ever mate
Hiya Pete! Good luck! And if your like me I only used the box’s…. like never. The frames do protect the exhaust though 👍😂
@@RicardoYeep I'll definitely get use out of them! lots of solo camping trips planned for this year. I've got all the Lone Rider stuff as opposed to boxes.
This wasn’t the most exciting video I’ve ever watched. That said, really helpful information. Thanks for making this one!
At last my pannier frames arrived, (and my comfort seat) I had a one hour slot between Teams calls to fit them, thanks to your video I managed to fit them in 35 minutes. They now bear my Enduristan monsoon panniers. Cheers Rick - helpful vid.
Hey Bruce thanks that’s awesome! Glad all went well and the vids helped! Been there done that (work on the bike between teams calls lol) 🤣
Cheers for the update 👌
Thanks
Ric
Greetings, excellent review of the installation of the bases and boxes, and the motorcycle is being left for the old people, but the one that took the palms are the songs of the birds that are in your house
Hello Carlos and thanks for the time to watch and comment 🤝
Yes I love the Touratech stuff as they are well built and look cool.
As for the birds they are very noisy but I don’t complain. It’s beautiful to hear. And I think they are always singing in most of my videos haha. 😂
Cheers
Ric
Hi Ric! Thanks for sharing. Loved the idea of mod the side covers it looks how it should, much better than without. Had the same taught. Ordered my pannier rack at my dealer but it seems I only will get them at mid August. For the panniers u have some serious cargo capacity. That's great they look awesome. For me not sure if I will stick with those Evos or with the touratech smaller zega pro 2s 31/38lts.
Thanks again for sharing,
A good Sunday 👍
Yes the side covers looked much better than the exposed bolt holes all up the side. Took a bit of thinking though as cutting out a part on a new bike is never advisable but this works well and can’t notice anything different. As you say it looks as it should.
I too won’t use this often once a few times a year! And have had outback trekkers before. So am used to hard luggage.
Although 99% of the time I’m a top box and roll top bag guy myself.
Good luck on the panniers though and hope all arrives sooner! Yes there is a back log on everything 🤦♂️
Let me know what you get and how you find them! 👍
Cheers and again thanks for the positive comment on the vid. And enjoy your Sunday too mate!
Thanks
Ric
Thanks for creating this video was invaluable when I was installing these last night on my new 1290 SAS.
Hi Grudo!! Cheers bud thanks kindly for the getting back. Lovely to hear from you. 🙏 keep well.
Cheers
Ric !!
Great video. I was looking at these racks for the new model and this is the only video I’ve found.
I have a 2019 SAR. Looking at getting the 2022 here in Canada later on. Though I prefer the Mosko Moto bags.
Bike looks awesome.
Hello there Shaft! Thanks for the feedback and watching the clip. yes i too found it hard to locate some footage on youtube too. And at the time (not sure about now) there was nothing in the KTM online parts manuals for installation. So I just thought it be helpful for someone doing the same as myself at home. Also its great to see all the luggage in a video before buying instead of just the photos on the internet.
yes I like the Mosko stuff and actually wouldnt mind the orange and black limited edition soft luggage (however being LE means they are already all gone haha). Also I dont use panniers often but when I do I need security and you cannot beat hard luggage for that.
Good luck on the new model when it comes out. I have never understood why you guys always a year behind on these?
Thanks again mate for watching! And likeing the vid.
Cheers
Ric
Hi Ricardo, great video.
I'd like to ask you a question. Do you know whether is possible to save a modular helmet inside the left pannier?
Thanks in advance for the feedback.
Just found your channel, it’s great. Many thanks.
Hiya Christopher! Thank you for the comments and watching! Appreciate the positive feedback mate 👍
Keep safe
Ric
Hi again Ric
KTM came out and fixed my bike today. He knew what the problem was before he came. He replaced the right hand switch gear under warranty. The race on button had water damage. So be careful and put a plastic bag around it, if you ride in the rain or wash the bike.
Hiya James that’s excellent news! So back on the road in no time. And thanks for the helpful advice! I might just dismantle mine and spray a coating of ACF50 👍… bit shocking though that’s the cause !!!
@@RicardoYeep Exactly what the KTM man did on mine. Don't try to open up the housing though. He said it would void the warranty of the part.
Oh ok interesting. lol So I am to first risk having complete failure and be stuck up Shxt creek in the middle of nowhere instead of pre-empt the problem. Hmmm... lol
Thanks for the heads up! So its one task to be taken at own risk...
Cheers again for that bit of advice!
@@RicardoYeep The KTM mechanic said the part was about £140. I'm tempted to open up the housing anyway. Fill it up with silicone sealer or something. There's got to be a way to make it water tight. The thought of it failing again on a trip abroad would be an absolute bummer.
@@jamessymes1 totally agree. I’d rather have piece of mind an prevent being stuck in the middle of nowhere. And pay 140 should they argue a warranty. I’ll probably just go with ACF50 though. Unless there is some form of void if removed sticker inside then they will never know after it’s blasted out with some cleaner should it still need to be replaced in future. Sealant may be a bit of an issue possibly?
Ricardo. I 100% agree that Touratech should have provided some black silicon gromit plugs or aesthetically pleasing blanking plates. That is a misstep on their part to the details. Good recovery improvising the mod to those plastic rails
Hiya Tom! Yeah mate I agree to let the end finish fall on something as simple as that is a shame. Even Triumph have blanking plates to finish the bike off when they have bolt holes unused. They could have simply supplied perforation marks on the covers inside. As simple as that. But no. They have the bike with no covers and no plugs. Cheers Ric
Looks awesome Ric. Some serious luggage capacity there👍👍😃
Thanks mate! Yeah better than I anticipated to be honest. But still I’ll only be using them probably once or twice a year 😂. It’s mainly for the pannier mount to act as a secondary guard in a fall to hopefully protect the Akrapovic. 🤞 fingers crossed no fall though 👍
Cheers
Ric
I won't be going hard panniers myself, but it's all good knowledge.
Yeah mate i use roll top 40l and a top of 99% of the time mate. But as mentioned on another comment cannot beat the security on a long haul better than a hard set. For the amount of time I’m going to travel long haul the Touratech are well suited i think. But I general yeah soft is the way to go if your doing a lot of off-road or want a narrower profile for day to day stuff. They all have there pros and cons really I guess 👍
Did you have to cut a portion of the left side plastic trim so that it fits over the rack mount bolts and pipe.
Hiya frank you are spot on mate. If you look on the underside of the plastic trim there is a rough cutting guide. I only found this later after cutting my own out but thankfully my own cuts were pretty much consistent with where I was suppose to be cutting 😂
Cheers
Ric
Ps same on both sides (area of the trim nearest the rider seat direction)
Hi Ricardo. Is there any difference between Power Parts and Touratech panniers racks? Is it the same product? Thx
Hello and sorry for the late reply my friend. I didn’t see this. Unfortunately I do not know the answer to this sorry. I’ve only had the OEM ktm touratech luggage
Thanks for sharing, great videos. Have you ridden the bike with the panniers and top box and noticed any wobbling/vibrations? I'm getting my 1290 this week and will mount the same panniers and top box (like yours) I had on the 790 s.
On the 790s I had some minor wobbling/vibrations if I took my hands off the handle bars.
No vibrations in the bike without the boxes mounted.
Hiya! Thanks for watching and the comment! I have not yet but will be testing them out soon. I can confirm some slight wobble at high speed with the top box as I have been using that alone. Possible increased also by the added reduction in aerodynamic of the panniers rails possibly. But road legal speeds (no noticeable wobble). I would expect something with the panniers too similar to my tiger with them mounted. Without any of them though my 1290 is solid as a rock and could max it out if I wanted. I’ll keep you informed mate and see how the are when all on the bike.
Thanks again
Ric
Of and big congrats on the bike!!!!! You will love it 👍
Hi Ricardo, Nice video ! Ktm thought let's sell some products without manual 🤣 so you're saving me a lot of time. Maybe a weird question but why does the exhaust needs to be removed? Looked like it will fit with it in the video? Thanks for the info! (Also with the other how to"s)
Hiya Stefan! Cheers bud and glad to help . I agree I never once found a ktm manual online lol… anyway you are correct! That video I did a while ago and since then learnt that there is no need to remove the exhaust. That just allows it a little easier to get to any bolts but completely unnecessary 😂👍
Just checking to see if you have come across a toolbox option to fit on the left side behind the panniers for your bike ?
Hiya Gary. Yes I use touratech. I think I posted a photo in the community section. Have a look and see what you think.
It takes a little fiddling to install so not to impact pannier but all works 👌
@@RicardoYeep thank you, let me swing past Touratech and see if I can get one.. very little on youtube for a toolbox on our bikes. by the way..love what you have done.. i also go full off-road with mine.. actually put on the spoked rims aswell
What's bugging me is the silver panniers rack - but i like the KTM branded panniers and top box.
Was thinking of getting a black rack directly from Touratech instead (which can be had in black). But i´ve noticed that strangely the rear mounting point of the KTM one is different to the Touratech.
Not sure if the KTM boxes will fit the original Touratech rack.
Hiya mate. I know what you mean. I got all my racks powder coated for £70
th-cam.com/video/-WVdb_N_HCw/w-d-xo.html
Look a lot better and know for sure there wont be any fitting issues as they are the KTM Touratech. As I too was not sure if the non branded would fit.
So far am very pleased and also have a tool box mounted too.
Cheers
Ric
Really wanted a set of panniers, just too expensive for me so I’ve brought some NATO containers that’ll get fitted soon.
Hi Andrew cheers for writing in. Yeah got to agree there a bank breaker for sure. I had these bought for me as a gift otherwise I would have probably had to re think it too. Good move on being more creative around it. 👍🙏
Cheers
Ric
Great video as always! when you say "I adapted the plastic cover"'towards the end of the video, what did you actually do to have them put in place so nicely? thanks!
Hiya David. Thank you for the comment and watching the clip! As for the plastic covets. Look inside there. Later I found out there are some cutting lines as guides to help with this. I just used a hole saw but I think the cutting guides may do a better job 👍
Cheers
Ric
Love your videos saves me the hassle and time when trying to mount KTM powerparts. Do you also have the crash bar on the list ? :-)
Morning Hans! Thank you for the comment! Great to hear they help. Yes actually I’m waiting for the bars. Hopefully in the next week or two max I should get them hopefully 🙏. Also I’m considering the spot lamps. 👍
Cheers
Ric
So, went for an hour long test ride on the SAS today… very different to the Blackbird and a joy to ride in all situations - motorway and city. Wish I could have brought her home…via somewhere nice and far away.
I rewatched your video about mounting the Touratechs…one thing I really liked about your set up was the modification to the KTM rear plastic “covers” that sits over the mounting mechanism attachment points to the bike itself. You mentioned in the video that you modified those covers so that they could be reattached (because they shouldn’t be) making the final look, look 100% better.
Would it be possible for you to show what you actually did to be able to reattach those plastic covers please?
Cheers mucker, Pedro
Hiya Pedro! Fantastic to hear you really enjoyed the test ride. I love the bike.
As for the plastic covers. My initial thoughts that they were not meant to go back on was driven by the photos on the KTM configuration web page. As it did not show them attached once racks were installed.
However despite using a hole saw and a lucky approx guess. I later realised there are dotted markers on the underside which I believe are a guide for cutting into. In the shape of a triangle to allow the rack tube to pass through! 👌
So far I’ve heard that others have since used this as the basis to cut 👍
Hope that helps!
Cheers
Ric
Hi Ricardo, first off…great videos, even a numpty like me can follow the various processes you demonstrate….doing them myself, that’s up for discussion. I am looking to get a SAS - got a Gen 1 SuperDuke R but need something fun to tour and enjoy the twisties once there. The SDR is great in the twisties, but knackering to tour on, hence the SAS. Plus my current touring bike is a 2006 Blackbird….she is in top nick, but she is hard work in the twisties. So she is getting traded in for the SAS.
I must admit that I too was looking to get the OEM panniers (having flip flopped for a while between them and Touratech ones)….having read your rationale and eventual outcome, I think I am now going to go for the Touratech ones (in black). I realize that they are the official Touratechs for the KTM, but do you happen to know which version they are relative to the Touratech catalogue? The reason for the question is I would like to know which other accessories are compatible e.g. inner bags, toolkit etc.
Anyway Ricardo, thanks for all the videos, enjoyed them all…even if I would not actually do some of work on the bike myself, but it they are brilliant to know what is in the realm of the possible.
Rubber side down mate, Pedro
Hiya Pedro thank you kindly for the great feedback! good to hear you found them useful! Sounds like you are doing a good move on the refresh on the blackbird. The SAS wont hit that top end but to be fair it is still fast enough. And as you say comfy on the long haul! And fun in the twisties!!! :)
Yep I have on regrets on the Pannier choice (or ended up with). The equivalent Touratech website (ie not the KTM branded version) would be the Zega Pro 2 as far as I a aware. I know this as I purchased the Touratech tool box (pannier frame mounted). See below link to a post in the "Community" section on the channel (PS where I have other stuff but not video content). It is a fantastic tool box. Lockable and spacious and so far water proof as I keep my jump starter power pack in there along with a air compressor / inflator.
Inner bags are expensive but am also considering them. Its not great having stuff bang around inside without them... Althoug you can get after market ones for a lot less I guess.
Good luck on the buying.. keep in touch and let me know how you get on!!!!
Cheers
Ric
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Greetings Ricardo!!! First of all love your videos, they are very helpful. I have a question for you regarding the Lock Barrel and the KTM key. I have a 2022 1290 Super Adventure S and the bike itself is fully keyless. My question is do the cases come with a key? You have mentioned that use have used the KTM key for coding the barrel. For some reason when doing research online I can't find any information regarding the key for 2021 and newer Super Adventure. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Hello and thank you for the kind feedback! Regarding the keys. The key has nothing to do to with the bike. When you order a set of panniers or topbox you also need to order a lock sets and key set. Only 2 keys come in a key set. The key will determine how you code up the locks.
You will need 3 locks per side pannier and 2 locks for the top case. So for a full set of panniers and topbox you will need in total 8 lock/barrels. each lock/barrel should come with the latches/pins used to code up to the key
You will need to go to a ktm dealer for these and they can order in for you. Hope that helps 👍
Thanks
Ric
Thank you so much for a quick reply. Much appreciated and this makes sense now. I figured I would probably have to order a set of keys from the dealer. My local dealer isn't very helpful when it comes to this kind of information which is a shame. Will have to go to a different dealer. Can't thank you enough for your help and the videos you make which are also very helpful. Just recently I was installing my Zumo XT and your installation video was very helpful. Ride safe!!! Fabian.
No problem at all mate. Pleased to be of help. If you ordered the panniers from the dealer I would be very disappointed if they didn’t tell you that you also needed the lock sets and keys to go with it! That’s just crazy. I would source a new dealer if they are not very helpful as this is basic stuff. And they expect you to trust them with care of you ££€€$$$ bloody expense bike when it comes to servicing. No way. 🙅♂️
Good luck 🤞
@@RicardoYeep I live in USA and where I'm located there are three KTM dealers within 40 mile radius. I just stopped by the dealer closest to me which in the past was never very helpful and always charging a premium for everything. I was just trying to get the information from them regarding the price and what to do about the key.
For each case and the rack they are charging $100 over MSRP!!! That's extra $800!!! Hopefully I'll have more luck tomorrow at the other dealer that normally services my bikes.
@Fabcio5277 based on what you said about the rip off prices your quoted! I would never use them again. OMG!
Yeah stick to the ones you have a good trusting relationship with for sure 👍
Dear Ricardo, thanks for all the quality videos,big help, one question for you, does the KDM1290S have while it's open with all the electronics, suspension pro? 😊 thanks
Hello there and thanks for the comment. I can say that the suspension pro I understand is an optional extra that can either be paid for as a stand alone accessory or can be included with the Tech Pack (which I recommend if you have this bike. As the bike is a high tech bike and no point unless you get it full loaded in my opinion). The Suspension pro allows front and rear customisation and also has addition preset modes to choose from. You wont get this as standard. Hope that is what you mean?
Thanks again and nice to hear from you!
Ric
Dear Ricardo, thanks for the reply, indeed it's very Helpful, Your Passion and love for motorcycles and willing to help other people is very impressive,And I highly appreciated and thankful, My local dealer here in Israel has Poor knowledge about the bike, Thanks to you and the videos that you shared I was able to get compensation for brand new tires and adjusting of the wheels Because it came off Balance and cost wobbling, Plus I had a torque issue, A problem that left my bike for 2 and a 1/2 days in the garage, It's only 2 months old, Anyway I love the bike, And I'm hoping all these issues will be resolved very much thanks to your help and support 😀 👍 Just want to add I have paid for the full electronical package to be opened and I did not get suspension pro, Many people didn't get it they don't even know they deserve it Thanks again bro all the best👈🙏👍
Hello again Boaz!? I think you wrote something but YT have removed it maybe? I am letting you know as I don’t know what you wrote but can see you replied. Anyway I hope all is now good for you 👍
Thanks
Ric
Ah thanks 🙏 and it’s great to hear these have helped. And not just a little by the sound of it! Wow what an experience!! But good to hear you are all sorted now and hopefully can enjoy the bike trouble free. I am very surprised the dealer did not install suspension Pro with your tech pack! That’s not good. But you are switched on and obviously knew something was not right 😁. Yep get them to add it as you paid for it!
If there is another dealer I would recommend taking your bike somewhere else in future if you can. One that knows more about the bike haha!
Thanks again for getting in touch!
Take care and ride safe
Ric 🙏
well done Ricardo you should have think about powder coating them black might be worth it
Haha morning Brian!! See later vid 😂👍 great minds think alike as they say
How are you liking these cases are they good quality? I'm debating between these and the givi side cases.
Hello Gunnar! Sorry for the delay in getting back. Personal stuff going on.
These are the best I have used. I have owned Givi trekkers in the past and albeit also great. There is something a little bit better in these but can’t put my finger on it. I think these just feel sturdier and has a slightly better quality finish to them.
I’d still have no issues buying the Givi but out of the two I’d take these touratech 👍
Hello Ricardo. First of all, I want to congratulate you for the great help that your videos are for me. On my 1290sas I have many of the equipment you have already installed, and one of the problems is the keys of the touratech luggage . It's already the second one that gets rooked. I know they should not be used as a lever, but the locks are so strong that the keys are a help. Have you never had this issue?
Hello Jose! Thanks for the kind words. The keys are quite soft I have bent one a little already but still works. Need be careful with the keys. Yes the locks are very strong and sometimes need fine tuning. You may have seen from my video that I needed to grind off some metal from the lock mechanism before I assembled it. As the lock was so misaligned it was impossible to turn. But now is all good . If you bought yours already assembled most likely they just put it together as per instructions. I did some minor customise before completed assembly 👍
Hi Ricardo, could you tell me where to buy the supports for those suitcases? Greetings from Paraguay
Hi Sebastion. Thank you for watchining and comment! These are the official KTM PowerParts luggage and racks made by Touratech. I had them when I ordered the bike. You should be able to order them from KTM: Part number as below! Hope that helps.
CASE CARRIER
Ref: 61912912044
Many thanks and great to hear from a new country! Thanks for getting in touch!!
Cheers
Ric
what did you actually do to those little cover to modify and put back on the sub frame,,,,cracking channel and good info thank dude
Hiya mate thanks a lot and appreciate the feedback. If you look behind the cover there is actually a triangle Dotted area. That’s the cut apparently to allow the pannier mounts through. However I didn’t realise until later but coincidentally I just used a hole saw on power tool and cut it out. But the area is the same that needs removing 👍👍
Hope that helps
Cheers
Ric
@@RicardoYeep ive just put my deposit on a 2022 sas and stubbled on your channel while doing my research,, great source of info,,thanks mate,,,if ever you pop over to Isle of Man gimme a shout will show you some awesome roads
Cheers mate and congrats on the new purchase 👌😎 and thanks for the offer!! I’ve been once and had great time! Wife’s Relative had place in Ramsey! Must visit again 👍
Touratech actually has the modification of those side covers in there manual of instructions.
Hello Daniel this was two years ago. And I searched everywhere. There were no instructions to be found. Maybe there is now or I just didn’t see 👍
@@RicardoYeep I realized the date this was posted after I made the comment. I appreciate all of your videos.
@@danielyoung2219 no worries bud! 👍🙏 and thank you kindly on the feedback
Las maletas laterales cuantos litros tienen de capacidad ? Se podrían poner las grandes o lado escape tiene q ser más pequeña . Entra un casco integral ?
Hola puedes meter el casco de tamaño completo fácilmente en la maleta más grande. Y sí, también puede caber esto en el lado del escape también. Puedes tener dos cajas más grandes en lugar de una pequeña. PERO será muy ancho y desequilibrado en apariencia. Aquí está el enlace a la foto que acabo de subir a la sección de la comunidad para usted.
th-cam.com/channels/niipLirOflDSqjtAJ98BVw.htmlcommunity
¡Todo lo mejor y gracias por mirar y enviar un mensaje!
Ric
Hello you can fit fill size helmet easily into the larger case. And yes you can also fit this on the exhaust side too. You can have two larger boxes instead of one small. BUT it will be very wide and unbalanced in appearance. Here is link to photo I just uploaded into community section for you.
th-cam.com/channels/niipLirOflDSqjtAJ98BVw.htmlcommunity
All the best and thanks for watching and sending a message!
Ric
Hi Ric, I will receive my Bumot panniers next week. Let see if it fits as well.
I see the advantage that the rack is black and the shape of the right pannier.
Hey Austro nice one ! Am sure they will be fantastic! They are a very reputable brand! And yeah I like the black finish of the racks too. I did consider them but went with the oem plastics for a change from racks. The only reason I ended up with Touratech is because I was going to cancel the order as was delay after delay. So dealer agree to pay the extra and rush deliver the Touratech. Which is happy with l to be honest. Mainly the top box as I’ll be using that the most 👍
Let us know how you get on with fitting and the look after? Any wobble etc 👍
Cheers
Ric
@@RicardoYeep For the top box, I bought a Givi Trekker Dolomite but the support is not available on Givi site. I should have buy also a Bumot top box but I did not image to have such problem to get parts for this new bike.
I should get Power Parts seats this week but I am still waiting lot of already ordered parts.
@@austrorital3338 yes mate I feel same pain with regards to parts. Am waiting since April and told some parts i get in September !!....Thats bad luck on the Givi.. Am sure the support wil be there soon fingers crossed. But yeah Bumot would have been my choice if I had their panniers.
Hi Ric - Was there any specific reasons you went for Touratech panniers rather than the OEM Powerparts ones? Just curious as to whether there was some info you could share about why you preferred them? Or was it just availability?
Hiya Brendan
Good question! First off I will have to start at the beginning as had a major factor in my initial decision…. I have had both oem plastic panniers and also the adventure spec givi Outback trekkers on my 800XCA. By far the aluminium boxes are far lighter and a little more robust. As well as looked better on that bike.. the Drawback being scaffolding on the alu boxes permanently fixed.. which dependent on set up and priority is also a blessing… if you want to add external pannier rail toolkit boxes. And protection for any expensive exhaust. As they act as a simple crash bar to some extent.
However ever my initial decision with my 1290 was to go with oem plastic in this instance. For the main reasons being they have a slightly more fitted and wrap around the silencer. Also slightly cheaper than the Touratech which given I’ll use them probably once a year and always on road they would do the job. And also the generally looked great in my opinion. And I fancied a change from alu boxes with scaffolding. Particularly as the 1290 looks slick when nice and clean lined.
End result.. the dealer kept letting me down time and time again with delays. And I needed to have some panniers. Dealer offered to pay the difference in value and get me the Touratech set within days. So went for the Touratech…
Afterthought: I am glad I went with the Touratech after all which was pure luck given the reason I ended up with them.
The build quality is 100% and the style suits the bike very well indeed particularly in the black.
I’ve not heard of moaning about these unlike the oem plastics and their unreliable mounting / lock systems. Some don’t have issues but some do if you google enough.
Also after installing them the frames are easy to remove in 10 mins once you done it a few times. So no big deal there. I’ll keep them off until I need to use my panniers.
Also as you might know I have that akrapovic which is fkn crazy expensive. At least with the mounts on the van will hopefully be slightly saved a little from a low speed drop if so. As the frames are rock solid.
And also as mentioned if going on a long haul involving wild camping then I could also have extra tool capacity by adding a pannier mounted toolkit.
So overall I think it was fate that I ended up with the better choice “for me anyway”. As it has more positives than negatives.
Also I learnt to code up lock sets 😂. Which is a plus..
Hope that helps
Cheers
Ric
@@RicardoYeep Mate, fair play to you for answering nearly all comments here, and thx for the detailed response in this case - much appreciated, and glad you like the set you got!
@@brendan18861 no worries mate! I appreciate the time and effort when people write to me so always try and reply as soon as practically possible 👍
And thanks again. Great to hear from you!
Cheers
Ric
Hi Rick, Touratech make 2 different sizes of panniers and I’m wondering what size you went with?
Hiya Ron. I went with official branded KTM panniers (Touratech) which from my understanding KTM only sell one set in either black or silver. And they consist of a larger and smaller (smaller for the exhaust side) to retain equal symmetry on the bike. 👍
1x45L
1x31L
Cheers
Ric
Thanks!
just updated.. instead of litre conversions... Its 45 and 31 Litres off the Touratech website.
Great
Did you consider soft luggage….like bumot?
Hey there ! If I am honest I am a full time top box and roll top bag man myself. Only on rare occasions will I use panniers.
However when I do use panniers it will be on long haul trips and want security. And can leave stuff on the bike while doing some walking around or visiting a cafe or restaurant etc. You cannot beat the security of hard luggage. Also any off-road may end up doing on holiday I can just leave the panniers at the hotel or in the tent at the camp site. Job done 👍
However if your trip involves wild camping and is an off-road holiday start to finish for sure I would go with soft luggage to be honest. Like you mentioned.
Cheers
Rick
Cannot describe how much this video helped 😂😂. I'm quite mechanically inclined, but JESUS. That was like a rubix cube to begin with 😂😂
HA!! I fully get where your coming from … I opened the dam box and looked at all the bits and thought are they for real… no manual online provided or any that I could find so was a bit of a process of elimination game haha! Glad the vid helped! 👍
@@RicardoYeep one thing I have noticed, on the back of those covers (thst you cut the frame space out of) its actually marked on the inside where you need to cut/dremel out. IT'S LIKE THEY KNOW WHAT WE'LL DO
Hi Mate. sorry I thought I answered this! yeah I saw triangular markings but was not sure it was actually meant for that or just coincidental. I mean when you check the official website for bike configurator they add the pannier racks and those covers do not go back on the bike.
For this reason I drilled a hole within the lines and made sure they fit nicely. If by using the exact lines to cut through works then that is great! :)
Cheers
Ric
@@RicardoYeep all good mate, no worries 👌🏻.
Well, I half lined it up/drew a line around it then saw the marks on the inside and just cut that (similar the that heated seat vid you just posted) it they fit beautifully 👌🏻.
Really glad it all comes with instructions right.... 😂😂
Howdy Ricardo,
I bought a 1290 SAS in May '17, specced it to the hilt and after 5yrs and 13,000 miles excellent touring miles, I'm looking to sell it and order the new model. On my current one I went for the moulded plastic pannier kit that attached to the floating carrier built to the bike. The main reason being that on my old 990 I tended to find that the width of the rear with the rack and boxes fitted, felt like the cases were in separate post codes. On the new model, it seems that they've done away with the floating case idea as a standard mounting, and you have to pay extra for it, making the cost of the two set ups very similar overall. How do you find the width of Touratech set up? Great channel and I'll be having a catch up with the videos you've done. Cheers, Ed
Hiya Ed! Thanks for the comment mate and glad to hear your liking the content. I have been bit tied up of late but will be back again more regularly at some point. Yep feel free to check out the 80 or so vids in the library.
Regarding the Touratech set up I personally dont have a problem as I only use the panniers if going touring. And when I do I am generally chilled out and no intention of filtering. So far I have used them once just to cart stuff from house to house and yes they can be a PIA in UK traffic. But as said I dont intend on daily use. And to be honest I dont think I would be filtering anyway with the fitted plastic panniers which are slightly narrower. All in all Panniers Suck anyway regardless.
Full points go for build quality of the Touratech KTM panniers. I have also got the Touratech pannier liner bags too. I am pleased I ended up with these as the racks for the panniers provided a fixing point for the Touratech Tool box which I have a load of useful stuff locked away inside. (Something you cannot do with the plastic ones that do not have the frames.
Also I have dropped my bike on both sides doing off road rally event. The pannier racks have protected my Akrapovic exhaust from any scratches at all. So they serve more than just the purpose of holding up a pannier in my opinion!
Hope that helps! :)
Ric
Just out of interest, when you fill up completely, how much does it show in terms of mileage for a full tank of petrol ? Mine shows 150?? I had that on my gsxs1000f. BTW its not had its first service, just incase that's why ?
Hey up mate I get at most on the reading 190-210 but must be sat at 70ish mph for a good while before that shows up. It depends on how hard on the gas you are on average from what I see. If I’m hammering it everywhere the range sits around 150-160. Which around the same as my R1 (same as your finding ) 👍
@@RicardoYeep OK I was a bit confused.com as to where ktm got the 250 mile range from 🤣
@@SuperDopefreshnesSAN Yeah downhill with the prevailing wind and with the engine off.. Quite possible lol
@@RicardoYeep 🤣
Ciao..che tu sappia un casco integrale entra nella valigia di sinistra?
Ciao Elio! Grazie per aver commentato! Sì, ti confermo che un casco integrale va bene!)
Ciao
Ric
Great Video.
Hello mate! Thanks for your time here. And the positive feedback. Funny thing about this video I installed and recorded it all then accidentally deleted my entire footage so had to take all back off and start over... (Not sure if it was visible in my enthusiasm second time round haha)
Cheers again!
Ric
Hey, Doing something like that for the second time is always a pain in the arse but there are a lot of people on TH-cam that do everything twice because they want it to go seamlessly for the camera. I recently changed the standard tyres on my Ktm 790 adv r by myself and I wouldn't do that for a second time just for the camera so kudos to you my friend.
Haha Yeah dont talk to me about manual tyre changing! Been there and done it and would not do it unless my life depended on it anymore :) Good bit of knowledge and experience to have though so I always recommend people have ago once at least if they have the time, energy and resources. (Energy being the most paramount haha)
Salut Ricardo. J'espère que ces paniers très asymétrique ne déséquilibrent pas la moto. Moi, j'ai pris les paniers de marque SHAD, un peu moins cher que les tiens. Très bonne explication, comme d'habitude
Bonjour, mon ami! c'est bon d'avoir de tes nouvelles. Oui, j'espère que les sacoches fonctionnent bien sans trop d'incidence sur la stabilité. Ils devraient aller bien car ils sont le produit officiel / De plus, l'Exhuast devrait équilibrer une partie de "l'asymétrie" et être assez uniforme (espérons-le). Oui les Shad sont excellents. Aussi maintenant un article fourni par KTM je pense.
Merci encore d'être resté ! bravo Ric
Hi . Do you have any idea if the 2019 touratech panners fit the new rack
Hello mate! Unfortunately I don’t know sorry. Probably check with KTM or one of the many forums.
Cheers again. And good question!
Thanks
Ric
@@RicardoYeep cheers . Great vids by the way . Got a 2019 R at minute and trading her in for new S . Tried the forums no joy to me honest .
Thanks mate for the feedback. Yeah it’s a right PIA if your expected to sell perfectly good boxes and buy new ones just to fit a rack. But if it’s got anything to do with making money I can assure you my money is on you need new boxes (hopefully not though. 👍
@@RicardoYeep got my rear bars today , so going follow your vid .... there will be a lot more swearing my end . My 2019 touratech boxes fit as well. Win win. Question how did you doctor the plastic cover s to go on top of the bars . Cheers
@@filo443 hello mate congrats on the bars arriving! They are easy to fit. As for the modified covers if you look inside the cover there is a triangular area in the corner and there are lines in the plastic. I used those to base my cutting off. Although instead of cutting straight across the lines I used a hole cutter within the lines and then as best as possible shaped it around the bars that stick out. And. Files the edges of the plastic after to give it that “production” finish as best as possible 👍
good job bro!
Hello mate thanks boss ! Appreciated and always glad to help out 👍
Cheers
Ric
@@RicardoYeep if you came in Italy we meet with our bikes
That be cool mate 👍 I’m hoping for any holiday at the moment! 😆
Ciao amico mio, questa sera ho montato i telai del tris valigie… e grazie a te ci ho messo davvero poco tempo!
Non so se hai notato che le cover dei fianchetti della sella, al loro interno avevano un disegno a U da seguire per fare un taglio preciso per far passare l’attacco del telaio!
Hai seguito quelle linee per adattarli?
Ah come ti dicevo i telai li ho fatti verniciare a polvere nero opaco… stanno decisamente meglio…
Non mi sono ancora arrivate le valigie… ti dirò se, togliendo e mettendo le valigie si rovina la vernice o no… ok?
Ah ciao amico! Sono lieto di avere nuovamente vostre notizie! Sono felice di sapere che il mio video ti ha aiutato a installare. Sì, ho visto le linee all'interno delle copertine ma non le ho seguite esattamente. Ho usato una sega a tazza e ho fatto un buco all'interno di quelle linee. Non ero sicuro che fossero per quel motivo.
sì, fammi sapere se il nero scompare dopo un po'. questa è l'unica cosa che mi fa preoccupare della verniciatura a polvere nera
Saluti!
Ric
@@RicardoYeeple valigie le avrò verso fine agosto poi ti faccio sapere… comunque Proteggerò i punti di attacco con del nastro adesivo nero!
A presto!
Ricardo, how are you? Could you share the contact of the representative where you bought the supports, I'm not getting anywhere. Greetings.
Hi Sebastion. I bought mine from KTM dealer here in UK. They should be on the online catalogue too. There is not a specific representative. It was part of my complete bike order from new. But the parts took months to arrive due to issues caused by covid and the ship that blocked the suez canal (apparently)
Where are you? have you checked online. this is the Uk configurator. Under luggage its all there
configurator.ktm.com/main/configuration/M-1290SUPERADVENTURES2021/categories
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Ciao Rick io il telaio delle borse e l’attacco del top case li avrei fatti verniciare a polvere di nero opaco per riprendere il colore nero del manubrio e del telaio!
Comunque ottimo lavoro 👍
Ciao di nuovo amico! Grazie per il commento! si, la pensavo come te all'inizio. Tuttavia, se fossero in polvere nera, mostrerebbero graffi e abrasioni argentati molto chiari solo in pochi usi. this is why I chose to leave as standard. It will still show wearing rubbing marks but being silver it wont be so stand as as much. But yes I initially thought same as you. Cheer Ric! :)
@@RicardoYeep io l’ho fatto in passato con un telaio e non ho visto segni o graffi perché la verniciatura a polvere è più resistente della vernice normale e nei punti di fissaggio delle borse basta mettere un giro di nastro isolante nero per proteggere, et voilá !!! Però rispetto la tua opinione! Tranquillo 😊
Ah ok nessun problema! Forse in tempo potrei provarlo. So solo che il mio ultimo givi aveva telai neri verniciati a polvere e dopo un po 'si sono ancora strofinati (lucidati per mostrare del metallo leggero sotto). Forse il tuo era un finale migliore, forse! Applausi Ric
Ciao amico! Spero tu stia bene! Mi chiedevo se potessi provare un piccolo video ho aggiunto i sottotitoli. Mi ci sono voluti 45 minuti per fare solo un video di 2 minuti! Come tutto fatto manualmente! :)
Grazie
Ric
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@@RicardoYeep ciao Rick i sottotitoli vanno benissimo! In italiano corretto! Grazie per la tua gentilezza! Ti seguo con piacere davvero!
Nice job! But the one who will be happy is your wife who already has enough room for her things! 😅👌
Hahahah 🤣… cheers mate but that problem is already sorted. She’s given up riding pillion on a bike now. And only will use cars. Win win.. I get more or my rubbish in them instead 😁
I hate exhaust on my 2018 SAS, bcs of that is right case smaller :/ Looks like, they did the same for 2021 bike even with bigger exhaust. The way, like it is exhaust designed on 1200/1260 mts is much better, but i dont say that mts is better bike overall.
Hey Stefan !! Yeah I hear you mate. You either love it or hate it. But I hear a lot of riders buy the Bumot panniers and they are shaped around the exhaust if you don’t like the A symmetric design of the Touratech stuff. I find a lot of dual sport bikes have the same issue as most have the exhaust up the side and the right case sticks out if you chose to have matching panniers boxes. The smaller box on the right does keep it even on width though. Although you compromise on luggage space. Bumot is the way to go for that fitted look though 👍
Cheers for watching mate and also for the comment! Very valid point as a lot feel the same about the pannier design fitting.
Cheers
Ric!
Well , as much as I like the look, they’re just to big for me. Filtering with those panniers must be unpleasant experience. I’ll try sport ones, bike is 101 cm wide with sport panniers all together. Now, I’d prefer to load my stuff from the top, not from sides, but there’ll be always some sort of compromise.
Agree but to be fair I wont be filtering with any panniers. Whenever I have panniers I am generally on a long haul trip and chilled out not in a rush. And being in a foreign country I rate security highest. As with you I ride mostly a top box or topbox and bag if need must. rarely use panniers. But They are great and would not swap these bad boys out for alternatives. Maybe I would get a second set (soft panniers like Mosko) to accompany for different requirements.
@@RicardoYeep
Yeah, I’ll give you that. I still have Giant Loop made in US from my CeeBee RR and they’re great idea….up to the point you have to unpack them and set the camp up :(
But they’re lovely for safe filtering (size)
Strongly recommend!
Cheers mate I will check them out. I would buy the limited edition orange Mosko's if they ever came back :(
whats really funny is that on my previous 1290 SAS i had the Touratech boxes ( in silver ) and a black rack :))) now thye just thought that is better to have a silver rack with black boxes. But Whyyyyy ?? lol
Haha like all consumer stuff… done to make more money and sell more crap that is completely unnecessary 👍
Next stop.....Deliveroo..
😆 fastest delivery in town though
Permanently mounted panniers are awful looking. SW motech quick release are the only way to go.
Hello mate and thanks for watching the video. Appreciated 🤝
I have to agree with you I also prefer a clean look. And initially ordered the oem plastics as they have a clean look too.
However I have owned permanent pannier mounts on previous bikes and they do offer some level of protection to a slow fall in respect of the exhaust.
Now the Akrapovic is nearly £1200 so in this situation I have decided to have solid pannier racks installed. The Touratech are very good for this reason.
But I completely agree if you want a clean look there are other options available 👍
Cheers
Ric