2021 2022 2023 2024 KTM 1290 Super Adventure PIRELLI SCORPION RALLY STR
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2021
- Finally my 50/50 tyres have arrived. Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR. These tyres are still V rated to 149mph so not detrimental to performance on the motorways. Which is very good for a 50/50 street v dirt orientated tyre. Lets see how they handle!
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Beatiful bike! I have the same 1290 but 2019 year! Congfratulations for this videos you made and sharing in TH-cam 👍🏻
Hiya Luis! Thanks my friend and also for watching 👍 I am pleased the stuff I put up is of some entertainment. And yes the bike is coming together now all the accessories have arrived finally. I’m happy with the look 👍 thanks again for the comment . Cheers Ric
10500 km with my Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR tires on my Tiger 900 GT & i love them. Really sticky on asphalted roads; great for riding, for cornering, sportively in twisties; Very good for gravel roads & for dry forest roads; i will definitely buy another set when they will be dead.
Hiya Trekky! Thanks for watching mate and comment. With you 100%... This tyre us my new default. I like so much I have now changed my Tiger 800XC to these same tyres! Absolutely phenomenal. :)
Cheers
Ric
Are they quiet?
@@MagicAyrtonforever Yessir
What are they like in the wet? On Highway and off. Waiting for a set of Conti TKC70s for my vstrom 1000 but getting impatient 😂😂
@@calummccreath2345 in my opinion, you can’t go wrong with Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR ; in our sizes 17 inches rear & 19 inches front wheel: they are fantastic tires. On Highway, on dry & on wet asphalt (thanks to soft compound and Silica), on twisted roads, on gravel roads, … I love them so much so i keep buying them for my Tiger 900 GT. I am on my second full set & i already bought a third rear tire to be ready next summer when i will need a new one. I just don’t understand why those great tires are not more popular!?!?
Where i live, in Canada, they are not expensive; that’s a good bonus!
Looking very nice pal. I can't wait to get my new one delivered. I'm thinking your S-Adv is now transforming into the SR-Adv and looking phenomenal 🤩.
Might have to join you for a day's ride soon 👍
Cheers mate and yes that was the plan.. hybrid SR ADV.. all the trimmings dripping with tech but the lean and a little more rugged look of the SAR. Spoke rims possibly in the future. I will never be doing hard core log crossing long distance off road runs.. so I dont need the full SAR with the suspension etc.. Stronger rims though would be beneficial though. For sure we should catch up at some point!
cheers
Ric
Good looking bike. I enjoyed my 18' 1090 adventure R quite a lot, but it was not meant to ride in the rain. Looked hard at a 21' 1290S but came across a steal of a deal on a 2020 R1250RT demo in white, no less, with all the bells and whistles. I will always love the V-twins though. So much fun to hotrod around on.
Hello there! And thanks yeah love the bike and the look. It’s quite a well sorted machine. But with a few quirks nothing major. Sounds like you know the engine and totally agree. That vtwin grunt is quite special. Awesome and fun to ride around. Sorry to hear about your warm weather KTM. Quite odd to have an R version that you couldn’t use in the rain 🤦♂️.
Enjoy the beemer!!! Nice bike also. Can’t go wrong with either at this level 👍
Cheer Ric
Hi Ric
After 9600km, it was time to change the Mitas which are very good tires but little bit less on wet roads. I had no clear idea regarding some new tires for the 1290 SAS. I saw the Scorpion Rallye in your vidéo and the look was really great on the 1290 😋 I read some tests and comments were good too.
I have now Scorpion Rallye since yesterday and it is a very good surprise. First km was little bit strange with the steering but after some km more, the behavior is very good and even on wet roads. Very impressive 👍 Let try off road but it is a very good choice. Thanks Ric
Hiya Austro!! Excellent to hear you went for the str rally! Yes I agree the first few km the front feels a little strange. But after it’s worn a little it feels just like any other tyre. You can even push them quite hard into bends with no nasty feedback or squirm that you’d normally get with block pattern treads. A really good all round tyre. And yes even wet weather very good grip all things considered. I’m doing a 500km two day off road rally next weekend… I’ll have some feedback on the tyres after that as well as a vid on the rally itself hopefully. Going with someone that is on a SAR so should be quite interesting SAR and SAS together on a rally 👍
Anyway great to hear from you and the tyre choice !!
Cheers
Ric
Hey mate.. wicked.. now it looks the part of an adventure bike👌
For sure looks the part. And served me well over the weekend. Really happy with them so far
I love the look!
Got to agree they are an great looking tyre. Not just aesthetics but in substance too. I am enjoying these on my Tiger XC too now!
CHeers
Ric
Got 6k miles out a set of the STR's on my old Tracer. Awesome tyres, loads of confidence and handle surprisingly well for something that aggressive looking. Doubt we will get that mileage on the SAS but will be interesting to see your thoughts. Half tempted with the Anakee Adventure's myself. Only negative with the STR's was fitting... that side wall is ridiculously stiff haha. Nice vid Ric!
Hiya Sam yeah I will do a review further down the line. I am pretty hard on my tyres unfortunately so not sure how long these will last as they are pretty soft. And do a lot on tarmac (all on tarmac at the moment). But its a play toy so its fine with me having these on. The handle really well so far I love them and at the moment will ber my go to defualt tyre I think !!!! I dont like the anakees personally as they are quite noisey (on my tiger) and drove me up the wall. Might be different on the SAS though.
Thanks again!
Ric
@@RicardoYeep Nice!
Agreed, I doubt they will last too long but to be fair, if you're having fun then it doesn't matter too much. Plus they look very purposeful!
Good to hear your thoughts on the Anakee's - A few people have complained about the Anakee 3's (and another model of them which escapes me) but the Anakee Adventure's are 'apparently' better. Got a few more bits to buy for my bike before tyres so will wait for more reviews on those!
Cheers and safe riding
Sam
Hi Ric. Bike looks good with the tyres on , be interesting to see how you get on with them. I'm sure there will be a video, I noticed you have a fender extender on what make is it, I went for the Bumot top box in the end real quality bit of kit. Got the rad guards on, headlight protector should be on before my trip and bought the tank protection kit. You any plans to change the mirrors I see you can get some that fit to the hand guards
Hi Steven! Thanks yeah love the finished bike now (HL protector this month too). Undecided on spot lights as yet. And likely get the spoked rims but thats way off. I like the Bumot. Would have been a high contender if I did not have the Touratech as a gift. Wing mirrors maybe change for foldable but we shall see. I just want to enjoy the bike now. Hopefully get out on it more (Which is difficult with "family life requirements" at present).
The Fender extender is Pyramid parts. here a link! :)
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373221360334
Cheers
Ric
The bike looks so much better!
Looking forward to real world review look the business. Just fitted Dunlop mutants to mine , so far so good 👍
Cheers Gary yes well I for sure have well and truly scrubbed these bad boys in over the weekend on the Welsh roads… just need some longer term mileage and rain use. And off the road use. Will be putting something up 👍 yeah the Dunlop’s seems to be getting great reviews. I nearly went for them but wanted something a little more 50:50 or as close as I could get. 👍
Great bike, love them. Curious about your rear cargo rack, is that from Perun Moto?
Hey there mate! Yup too bike!! And yes Perun Moto rack. I’ve got a vid on it I think already from memory 👍
Awesome.
Thank you! Cheers!
nice video thanks
Hello Ivan! Thanks for watching mate and thank you for the feedback! much appreciated.
Cheers and ride safe!
Ric
Not sure if you did or not but tie rap the front brake lever down just before you fully tighten the brake calliper bolts centres them up properly
Mine need replacing, I'm at 14000k now on original tyres. I'm replacing with the same scorpions as I do mostly road work and very little off road. I find originals have never let me down so that's why I'm staying with them. Be interested to know how your new ones compare.
hey up Dan! My stock tyres were Mitas... Which were and are still good. I swapped as I am going to be doing some mixed riding and the Mitas are not really suitable. But yeah will be doing a "my opinion" feedback on them at some point once I have used these a while. Cheers Ric
A joy
Sure is!
I love you video s keep them coming if you ever need any bike gear let me know I work for a good bike dealer sports bike.
Hello Jon ! Great to hear from you again mate and thanks for sticking around. Cheers for the feedback 👍 and also for the heads up on gear. I will be looking soon actually so may drop you a line. I kinda need to replace my green laning kit 🤦♂️👍
Cheers again
Ric
i would have gone for the non str version. a bit more nop same tire. just easier cleaning lugs. have ridden the str's for 2 tires now. love the road performance. even if wet [you will notice]
Hiya yeah they’re a great tyre and just getting a same set for my 800XC. I’m are the Non STR also V rated? Keen to know. Thanks 🙏
R you planning on changing the rims as well with spoke/wire rims??
Hiya! yes I have already made enquires. The only painful part is the wait. I am told well into next year before I am likely to see any spoke rim delievery. We shall see!
Cheers
Ric
I've heard the best about the str. They are great, even on the road.
Btw, no need to losen the chain adjusters when removing the wheel. Just remove the axle and push the wheel forward and the chain will drop easily ;)
Hiya Dimo thanks on the STR info yeah gotta agree they are super sticky in the hot weather on the tarmac. I rode it like its a normal street tyre!!! haha And yeah good point. I have always have the habit of backing off the adjusters. Old habit die hard lol. Thanks mate
Cheers
Ric
Does the Perun Extension rack fits on directly on bike?
Hello! Yes the PerunMoto luggage rack fits direct onto the bike and comes with all required bolts. However it is not compatible with the Touratech Topbox carrier plate. If I need to use my Topbox I have to remove the Luggage Rack and put back my OEM plate that supports the Touratech TopBox carrier.
Hope that helps
Ric
What sort of mileage do you expect to get from them mate ?
Hi Ray. Depends how you ride. Between 3-5k miles 3 if you ride it like you stole it everywhere. 5k miles mixed riding (for me anyway) 👍
Looks awesome Ric. Adv bikes always look better with nobblies on. I used to run tck80's on an Aprilia pegaso. Looked the shit. My tiger I ran mitas e07's. 👍
Ah cheers mate yeah it’s all pretty much complete apart from HL protection and possibly spots! HL arrives this month. And yeah totally agree they always look far better with these types of tyres. So you went E07! I never tried those but know they are popular. Along the same lines as the k60s 👍
I definitely recommend the k60 Si02 fronts for winter as they are like racing wets!! (Slight exaggeration) but the knobby are so soft and squishy you’ll only get about 3k miles out of them in warm dry road riding. I ride throughout winter and snow and ice and never slipped once.. Very odd I don’t see them advertised a lot
@@RicardoYeep Your looks a lot better than stock. Mine is all standard apart from the rad guards. I'm waiting for a after market exhaust to come out. Do you know if there are any available yet? Think I could be waiting a long time. The akro is a bit expensive.
@@jamessymes1 Cheers mate yep and well satisfied with it now. Unfortunately nothing springs to mind on aftermarket just yet. A lot of people are waiting on the Arrow Sonos (I think). But hearsay is thats its stil going to be the best part of 600-800 notes!.. :(
I am curieus how they are! I just bought Dunlop TrailMax Mission and love them!
Hi Andy! Seriously I cant believe I have not used these sooner. Such a fun tyre. Admit it was a scorcher when I went out on a 300 mile run. They were really grippy in the bends and I mean Switchback bends. So soft I cant see these lasting longer than 5k miles at most. But the trade off is you get more grip on these block tread tyres. I love them but yet to ride in the rain. I will be doing a full review on these once more miles and conditions have been run. But so far its now my go to (As I plan not just to ride tarmac) If it was pure tarmac then there are more suitable alternatives of course..
@@RicardoYeep well i used 2 tires of these. i ride the t7 so it comes with this tire. [loved it and bought it again] first tire took 8000km 2e is bought after and made in germany. atm i have 18000 on my bike. and i know thy are coming up for a swap but i still have a bit till thy hit the markers.
but than again you drive one with more power so it might even be shorter.
Hello mate cannot see last message unfortunately . YT removes post with some links I think as a lot of them are dodgey site sometimes. YT algorithm sometimes gets it wrong
@@RicardoYeep send it to ya in a mail. its pirelli's website about tires
@@corecass Got it. Ok so they are still not too bad for a heavier off road biased tyre. the Scorpion RAlly (non STR) are T rated (max 118mph) which is the same ball park as all other more off road biased tyres..
The Scorpion Rally STR are V rated (149mph).. yes I know I wont be hitting 149 often. But I wonder given the increased performance rating - I bet they would last longer on Tarmac for this reason too? To be fair the Wales 500 rally I did on the STR's were absolutely fine. And dont think I would need bigger gaps or blocks. The main think for me is outright performance with the ability for "some offroad"
It was great doing a two day rally and finishing with a three hour ride home but still be able to ride it like a superbike. on tyres that felt like very little compromise!
I would keen to try a set of the Standard Rallys out though. I would probably try a set on my Tiger (but I literally just bought a set of STrs last night haha) ... next time.
Hey mate. So long term review. You feel the same? I’m about to pull the trigger and buy a set.
Hello stranger. Great hearing from you. I Just replaced a rear.. still my default all round tyre mate 🙂👍
Didn't need to replace as had good 1k left on them but wasn't sure if I was going to so another off road day so wanted extra bite. After 4500 the sure lost some edge and quite squared off.
But that's a sacrifice I'm ok with for such a great compromise type tyre
@@RicardoYeep they are in short supply ATM . Late August from my usual tyre guy !
Wow really!!! I bought mine ages ago and left in the garage thinking it be something like that.. seems I did good 👍.. late August !! ☹️
Hi mate what Tyres are you running.
Hiya Jon! Thanks for watching and messaging! I am running pirelli str rally tyres 👍
Best all rounder in my opinion for my use. A decent speed rating up to 149mph and also fairs well on general off roading. 👍😁
How do these feel at or near top speed? Cornering confidence?
Hi Jonas! Give them a good 100 mile to bed in and rub off the edges gradually and you be loving them. I have had these up near their max rated speed (well into 3 digits) then only issue wasn’t the tyres.. usual ktm wobble 🤣. As for cornering. In the warm summer weather I rode these like they were street tyres. Cornering lovely and decent feedback. The only gripe out of everything is the rear squares off quick with the 1290 power. Apart from that deffo my favourite mixed use tyre 👍
@@RicardoYeep Damn you're still having wobbles?? Frustrating. On my 1190, I had dealership check wheel balance, spoke true, I tightened head bearing and it still wobbles around 110mph. Trying hard to not buy a new bike/loan.
@@jonasbaine3538 yeah mate! Not as bad as before to be fair. But unless the conditions are “perfect” then there is still some level of warble at 120+. Is what it is i guess. I don’t do that often anyway so have given up on the search for the holy grail 🤣
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Thanks mate!!
Hi I have continental on the rear wheel TKC 70 rock and TKC 70 on front. But on the sand it is bad choise. Bike still wobbling.. Mitas E 07+tyres would be the best choise, because my friend have these on BMW 1200 GS and really looks more better.
Hiya my friend! Yes the TKC70s are not at all good on sand. And to be honest there are not too many tyres that do well on sand anyway. Sand is a nasty substance. E07 are good for sure and look great. I have always been a K60 Scout and TKC80 guy myself. But any of these tyres are not great on sand. Its mainly skill when it comes to sand. All look very good on the dual sport bikes though I agree.
Great to hear from you again
Ric
I had the Pirelli scorpion rally str 's fitted to my ktm, and they make a dreadful whining sound mainly from the back wheel. I have done a few thousand kilometres on them and think of changing them. Any advice?
Hiya Martyn sorry to hear that mate. I never had any issue when I ran them on my SAS. They were and are still one of my favourites 😮. Are they fitted correctly? As it’s quite a popular “favourite” all rounder. Does ok on light to medium trails and can still push well into 3 figures safely in the motorway. Am just wondering if it’s something else maybe or indeed a defect somewhere. Definitely odd though?
@@RicardoYeep hi! I'm torn between these str and bridgestone at41! It's for a 2021 Africa twin. Both tyres have great reviews. Like most,it'll be tarmac mixed with gravel tracks and green lanes at the wkend! Have you tried the at41?
@terrystratford1235 Hi Terry! No sorry have not tried them. They do look like a half way house between the A41 and AX41. Which maybe suitable for you. The STR definitely appear to me as being more aggressive. Hence wear quick. Looking at the AT41 looks like they would have better road life. But I guess that depends on the compound. I’ve not seen them personally 👍
@@RicardoYeep they are oem tyres on Africa twin and handle really well! Would get away with gravel tracks, but apparently not much more. I did see a vid on them and the front wears quick to a triangle shape! Dual compound, silica (water repelant)! Maitas rear is great, but again, the front apparently not so good and alot put a different tyre on the front! But what works for u on the beast, and your riding, may not work for me and mine!that said, all reviews really help!😎
@terrystratford1235 haha nicely said 👍
For what it’s worth I am about to swap over onto AX41 on the new beast. 🤦♂️ let’s see how long they last 😂
Do they make these for the SAR 21” front tire ?
Hiya Peter ! yes they do
www.wheelhousetyres.co.uk/tyres/90-90-21-54v-scorpion-rally-str-pirelli-m-s-tl-front.html
Thanks Ricardo maybe they are low on stock
Nice one, now some driving videos please 😉😉
HAHA mate I have been out loads. Just with mates they get a little peed off if I want to stop and change camera angle. Or even set up a ride by. But I hear ya!! lol... It does cross my mind to put a nice vid together now all the bits of stuff are on.. Ive done about 1000 miles in the last 10 days! and some of the most spectacular routes I have done around Wales. :)
@@RicardoYeep thanks 😊
@@RicardoYeep have you made a route of the roads taken Ric. I'm planning next years trips already.
Hiya Steven, I have to check my sat nav as I may have recorded the routes, We went in a pack and I was not the initial lead so was not fully plannd out. But seemed to have turned out pretty dam epic! we done a few of these unplanned runs.. and all worked out amazing. I will check it out for you.
Cheers
Ric
Looks PUKKA Ric - when you coming exploring??
Ah mate I’m waiting on you lol 😂. And cheers yes I’m finally satisfied now and finished it apart from Headlight protection (this month) .. now time to wreck it 😂😂🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@RicardoYeep away this weekend but yes need to get something arranged
@@robgreaves2633 nice one Rob! Look forward to it at some point. I’ve been dusting the cobwebs off byeway route planning and using OS maps. And overlayed onto google maps. Ive a massive route list but mainly down south. But started to compile a few around here now for when I get out 👍
@@RicardoYeep if you join TRF you get access to the green map beta version - shows all legal green lanes in UK plus I am sure there is a beginner gpx route for the Peak District too
@@robgreaves2633 hiya Rob, would you mind pinging me a link on FB am struggling to determine which is the right group! I’ve already begun going through my old records on green lanes but what you say would be awesome if it’s all there already. Never know these day’s which byways have got TRO since 🤦♂️.. cheers for that 👍
Looks sharp
Ktm crash bars I assume?
Cheers 🍻 yep KTM bars 👍
I have no intention of going off-road, so it'll be ME1 when the OE tyres need replacing.
Metzelers! cant go wrong there. To be honest I have recently aquired my old tiger 800 back (my first one). already 105k miles so have that for mainly commuting now and general hauling on roads.. Ive stuck the STR's on the 1290 as its now become my recreational bike. Touring Holidays/Biker runs with mates/light trail riding. So these STRs are great (so far anyway)
@@RicardoYeep At this early point, there aren't too many touring tyres to choose from, but Metzler will do nicely.
Salut Ricardo,les gros pneus de la S on plus d allure que les pneus de la R 😢
Bonjour compagnon! haha J'ai déjà changé les pneus ! vous verrez sur la prochaine vidéo. Je suis d'accord que c'est étrange que le R soit maintenant livré avec plus de pneus de route.
Next upgrade should be wired spoke rims.
Hello my friend! Yes I agree and already enquired an with delays delivery is well into next year if I’m lucky 🤦♂️
These are nice handling tires both on and off road. They make a nasty hum noise between 75-85. The rear flats easy. They rip in the middle...not repairable. Total nightmare. This is not a good tire for the BMW 1250 GSA unless you ride really slow in the dirt. They are not tough... Sad, because I like how they ride.
Salut mon ami ,sur la S les pneus sont bien proportionnés,mais sur la R ça fait pas large ,surtout avec les A 41 Bridjestone,je trouve ça ridicule ,ce que ce Pirelli irait beaucoup mieux avec ce look,baroudeur 😅surtout sur la R pour la route il tiens aussi bien ?meme si il s’use plus vite , quand tu changera , tu va mettre quoi sur ta R,j aimerai que quelqu’un essaie les roues de la S sur la R 2023😂
Rear tire size ?
170/60/R17 72V - This is the V rated tyre (149mph). There are lower rated ones so make sure you buy the right ones if you want to retain performance.
Hello mate. I’ve got a notice you made a comment about seats. I think YT algorithm might have auto removed it I think as I can’t see it anymore 👍
@@RicardoYeep Hello Ric Ergo bench Ref: 61907940040 or
Ergo bench ref: 61907940050 is better
@@ax5278 ah got it nice one ☝️
Just got my pair of Strs, they are made in China, should I be concerned?
Hello mate. No not at all there are a lot of stuff made in china. If you Google them many others have no different experience. All should be fine. To be fair most bike manufacturers have parts made in china of some sorts. There is rarely anything without a Chinese made component. If we compare china and the UK. China has an advanced space program, mobile phones pretty much as good as most iPhones, build islands in the ocean as big as cities, build bridge building equipment than can span gorges… and a huge manufacturing industry.. I’d say in most part your pretty ok.
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