Hello Sam Thank you for this nice video... What did you installed between the two radiators? I was looking some covers but most comes only combined with the radiators cover "which I'm not sure is good for super hot environment like Miami FL". ANY ADVICE? PS: How long takes to install the bars?
This was a mount for the crash bars which goes between the radiators. There is a company in Australia who make one piece radiator guards! I noticed no difference in heat! Bars took around an hour to install
Damn, I JUST COMMENTED on an old video from Steve, the Rambo Ktm one, asking about the light fixture for the S4. And you just showed here that the crashbars come with the fitting ALREADY... Ok, less 50 bucks to spend. Thank ya!
Great video Sam I dropped my SAS yesterday here on tour in Spain a few scratches to the KTM bars but you’ve sold it to me again I will be online when I get home,💪🏍
Bolting the upper guard onto the bracket next to the steering damper (as you have done on your '21 SA and I have done on my '17 SA) is the best solution. Two, parallel and fixed horizontal braces across the front (radiator) gives the lateral stiffness needed to prevent the upper crash bars jamming onto the bodywork after a drop. There are several (expensive) brands that just have the one lateral brace and that ain't enough.
Would probably look better in Orange to break up all the black,but yes certainly look sturdier than the original KTM bars and auxiliary light mount points are a bonus 👍
How would you recommend setting up the S4's and D7's (Possibly with amber lenses)? I havent got either yet, nor the bike but Im curious as to how you'd decide whats the best way of making use of the high power D7's alongside the S4's.
If I was going to run both (which I'll likely end up doing at some point), I'd have the S4's on one circuit running 40% in the day like they currently do, then D7's off. Then both come on 100% when I pull the high beam trigger. The D7s are probably too bright to run on low, as my S4s are stupid bright, even on 40%! I think D7 is designed more as a flood light type thing so would be perfect for dark lanes or riding at night
@@SamVBikes I was thinking something similar, or maybe even in drizzle conditions with the amber lens, putting d7's on 10% or something aimed somewhat level/lower and the S4's as a spot/high
The S4s work really well for dark or rainy conditions, so would be plenty for that from what I'd say. They make the bike so much more visible especially when filtering etc
Hi Sam, thanks for this and all the other videos. It’s great to have someone so enthusiastic creating content featuring the 1290 SAS! If you have time, I have a question for you on the vertical brace that fits to the steering damper bracket. Did you find the cables running out to the front of the bike fitted easily into the cutout of the brace? I seem to be having to force a rigid tube/cable into that notch just to line up the top of the brace. It set me wondering if the cabling will chafe over time. Keep up the good work - I’m looking forward to where you go next with Monkeh. Two up, surely? 😂
Thank you! More than welcome! They are definitely tight to fit into the cutout but I've had no issues with chafing or anything on the wires. I checked them daily almost religiously for a good month or so to make sure! Might be worth putting some rubber edging on it to make sure! Haha yeah! I don't think 9bhp will have much hope 2 up 😂😂
Yeah these cables are so damn tight I’m wondering if something is routed differently. The cables are the only thing preventing everything from lining up and I don’t want to push the rigid section any harder. Even the steering damper was a legend and didn’t expand when I took out both bolts. I need new tyres so I’m going to get a mechanic to reroute the cables and fit the bars at the same time.
Aaaaannnnddddd … fitted! Very pleased to have the extra protection in place (giggity). Thanks again for the video. I know Outback Motortek do a good job on their website of showcasing their products/testing but your video convinced me to check them out in the first place 👍🏻
Nice!! Glad you've got them on! Once that main bar is in place it's pretty simple! I normally take them off for services to save myself an hour of labour fee so it gets easier! Sooo happy I had them and will get them for every bike I can if possible!
@@SamVBikes gs would need 150+hp crank to get my attention. OR perhaps bmw just put 19/17 wheels and long travel suspension on s1000xr 😎😎😎. bhpuk made 170+whp on s1000xr tuning!!!! th-cam.com/video/oRlmoUMJ4V4/w-d-xo.html
I think our bikes are going to be identical once ive got my new sas haha, ive got half of this stuff in basket ready to buy, going to be a fun day fitting everything. Great vid as always. Roll on proper nob mode
You are hilarious. Thanks for the laughs. I was looking at those crash bars and looking at the ultimate protection to add the bash plate (if I trade in my current bike for a 1290 next year). I like that they are from Canada as I am from Canada as well. Can't wait for the D7's to come in and get installed so I can watch another video of yours. haha
Just found you and following you as I was going to do a lot of what you're doing. But you've done it and done all the editing so I don't need to. Great videos. Question on the crash bars: is the tubing better than the standard KTM bars? Is the weight more substantial as I can't find the total weight of these vs the KT stuff? Keep up the good work fella
Thank you! Haha yeah I got a bit money happy. I unfortunately managed to test these bars out yesterday and I would 1000% recommend them. Took the full brunt of a low-side at 30mph odd and didn't deform, didn't move at all. They have ground down the lower right bar but that can be replaced. The bike is fine other than a scratched up exhaust! I'd say these are thicker than the KTM bars. Weight is a bit more as it's upper and lower, and has the centre bar too, but nothing you'd notice on the road!
Have the same outback crash bars got after watching your video.. but impossible to get the skid plate off- no space to undo the front 2 bolts of the skid plate.. how do you manage the take off for oil changes etc
It's really awkward to get into the upper 2 bolts for it but I loosen the bolts for the lower bars in the centre just so I can move them a bit. You might have to loosen the outer ones a bit too. When I have some spare money I'm going to buy the Outback skidplate too which will make it a lot easier
@@SamVBikes actually i got the outback motortek skid plate and had to return it.. it does not fit with my setup. I have the arrow decat headers with akrapovic end can. Seems like the skid plate works only with stock headers. Looking for another alternate skid plate that can fit this setup
Hi mate, I’ve ordered the bars and want to install the s4 lights, what mounts did you use to connect them to the bars? As you can order the bar mounts or did you use the ktm mounts? Hope that makes sense, thank you
Nothing that's noticeable. Or at least I havent felt any difference! The bars don't weigh much at all. I suppose if you put it on a lightweight bike you'd notice it far more
How did you find the quality of the mounting bolts, the heads on mine are the worst i have seen. I am happy with the bars and design, but I will replace every bolt with new ones. The heads will definitely round off. Not what i expect when i pay over $1,000.00 for the product
Errrmm... they were okay. Not the best in the world, but they weren't horrendous. Some were way better than others. I'll probably end up replacing them anyway as I'd like all the bolts to be black, and some aren't. But yes.. I agree!
I’m concerned if as this bars are more fixed to the frame in case of crash they can transfer the impact force to the chasis? The ktm crash bars moves in case of impact they just blend and displace. But as this motortek you have many bolts in the frame fixation not sure if the bars will displaced or transfer the impact to the frame? Is there any information about this? I think for very slow o parking falls will work better than ktm for sure. But in impacts where you go at for example 30-50km/h in offroad not sure if will translate that to the frame. The ktm crash bars are like a fuse. What do you think?
The KTM crash bars also fix to part of the chassis and engine, so not a huge amount of difference. The OM bars have more mounting points to spread the impact across more points to share the load I've had the misfortune of low-siding the bike with these crash bars on at around 30mph, and had no issues with cracking on the frame or anything. The bike was mostly undamaged besides the exhaust. The off road crashes and drops have caused zero impact to the bike or bars. A drop will be fine with either bars as I've experienced with both, the issue comes from the constant, repeated impacts and grinding that comes with an impact followed by slides Of course there will be instances where a fall will land 'just right' which may cause a frame crack but that can happen with any bars. Personally I'd opt for the most heavily tested bars I can afford
I'm gonna pick up the 2023 SAS. These probably won't fit because of the changes expected with the 17 inch hoops and lower stance. But will keep an eye on them.
Ahh interesting, I didn't think they would make changes that big without launching a complete new iteration. I know there were talks of a Pikes Peak version with those changes. Normally its just colour changes and small tweaks if any, so that will be a big move!
No complaints at all! Love them! Fit nicely, look great, feel solid and work as a really good mount for my insta360 haha. I have my valve clearance service in a few weeks so I might take them off rather than KTM charging £80 an hour to work out how they come off and go back on though 😂
Hi Sam I finally bought the bike, and put the Outback Motortek crash bars on. They look great, and seem really strong, but like you, I hope I never have to use them. I’ve only had the bike out for a 175km ride, but it seems amazing! Hopefully I don’t get any speeding tickets, but WOW, is it fast! Haha
They aren't much more difficult to remove than the stock KTM PowerParts ones once that bar is fitted so hopefully not the case. If it costs an extra hours labour, that will be far less than the cost it will save if I ever throw it down the tarmac!
@@SamVBikes OK, fair enough! 👍🏻 This hit a nerve with me now because I stripped my SAS down to the air box three times in a row the last few days… first to get the Denali S4s and the split Sound Bomb installed… the second time to install the green cable (that I completely forgot about) that goes from the hexEZcan to the original horn and than a third time to free the cable of the fuel gauge that I managed to get stuck under the tank but I realized this only before mounting the last part, the glove box! 🙈😅
Hahaha I know the feeling! When I installed the Denali S4s I did a similar thing... its such a pain in the arse isn't it!! Same thing happened with the horn trigger wire etc! At least we know how our bikes come apart now haha
‘I can justify anything if I want it’… yep man maths is a beautiful thing. I once went from looking at a Audi RS4 at 50k and ended up buying a Porseche GT3 CS for 90k, it a few easy steps on autotrader… this is only a couple of grand more than that and you get x, repeat and yep, the budge is blown but ‘legitimately’ 👍
Hey there sam, a question: did you buy these after research ? Or just went for them? Saw some heed crash bars video they look tough and good, but just wanted to know if you made research to help me decide which to Choose thanks!!! 💪🏻🙌🏻
As lame as it sounds, I've been following these crash bars for a few years. It's always interested me how companies sell glorified scaffolding saying they are crash bars, then you see someone come off with them on and they offer barely any protection or just fold into the fairing causing more damage. Outback Motortek have been on my list for years because of the way they test and are open about their develpment. Especially like that they wouldn't out a product on the market with the KTM bars because the KTM ones weren't good enough. If I'm going to have crash bars, I want them to minimise damage in a crash, not just look cool haha!
I've seen the Heed ones too which look nice, but there's not really enough evidence to prove they work in a crash for my liking! Doesn't mean they won't work well though
Port of call shout out! Whoop whoop! 🤣
Haha! Plenty more to come!
Hello Sam
Thank you for this nice video...
What did you installed between the two radiators?
I was looking some covers but most comes only combined with the radiators cover "which I'm not sure is good for super hot environment like Miami FL".
ANY ADVICE?
PS: How long takes to install the bars?
This was a mount for the crash bars which goes between the radiators. There is a company in Australia who make one piece radiator guards! I noticed no difference in heat!
Bars took around an hour to install
Looks sweet. Having the mounting points for the lights already built in is a great idea. I'm guessing others will start doing that as well.
Yeah its such a useful feature. Means the lights are solid when mounted too!
Hello great movie very nice filmed ;)
Thank you!!
Damn, I JUST COMMENTED on an old video from Steve, the Rambo Ktm one, asking about the light fixture for the S4.
And you just showed here that the crashbars come with the fitting ALREADY...
Ok, less 50 bucks to spend.
Thank ya!
Yay another Sam Video 😊
🙌🏼🙌🏼
Great video Sam I dropped my SAS yesterday here on tour in Spain a few scratches to the KTM bars but you’ve sold it to me again I will be online when I get home,💪🏍
It happens to the best of us! The stock bars do a decent job but these just take it up to the next level! Hope you're having a great time in Spain!
Nice job Sam, they look like a seriously well made set of bars, well worth the money to protect your pride and joy 👍
Too right bud, solid bits of kit. I'm really happy with them!
@@SamVBikes may you never need to use them mate! 👍
Well done! Looks great. Ride safe…
Bolting the upper guard onto the bracket next to the steering damper (as you have done on your '21 SA and I have done on my '17 SA) is the best solution. Two, parallel and fixed horizontal braces across the front (radiator) gives the lateral stiffness needed to prevent the upper crash bars jamming onto the bodywork after a drop. There are several (expensive) brands that just have the one lateral brace and that ain't enough.
100% agree! I swear by these bars. They saved the bike in my crash!
Would probably look better in Orange to break up all the black,but yes certainly look sturdier than the original KTM bars and auxiliary light mount points are a bonus 👍
The bike might not be black for much longer 😉
Hi Sam. Is it me or do those lights face outwards a bit rather that straight forward? That might do for my OCD. 😵💫
How would you recommend setting up the S4's and D7's (Possibly with amber lenses)? I havent got either yet, nor the bike but Im curious as to how you'd decide whats the best way of making use of the high power D7's alongside the S4's.
If I was going to run both (which I'll likely end up doing at some point), I'd have the S4's on one circuit running 40% in the day like they currently do, then D7's off. Then both come on 100% when I pull the high beam trigger. The D7s are probably too bright to run on low, as my S4s are stupid bright, even on 40%! I think D7 is designed more as a flood light type thing so would be perfect for dark lanes or riding at night
@@SamVBikes I was thinking something similar, or maybe even in drizzle conditions with the amber lens, putting d7's on 10% or something aimed somewhat level/lower and the S4's as a spot/high
The S4s work really well for dark or rainy conditions, so would be plenty for that from what I'd say. They make the bike so much more visible especially when filtering etc
Great video! Did you do one for the KTM crash bars?
Thank you! No I didn't. They weren't bad and stopped damage on the odd drop but they aren't the most supportive
Hi Sam, thanks for this and all the other videos. It’s great to have someone so enthusiastic creating content featuring the 1290 SAS! If you have time, I have a question for you on the vertical brace that fits to the steering damper bracket. Did you find the cables running out to the front of the bike fitted easily into the cutout of the brace? I seem to be having to force a rigid tube/cable into that notch just to line up the top of the brace. It set me wondering if the cabling will chafe over time. Keep up the good work - I’m looking forward to where you go next with Monkeh. Two up, surely? 😂
Thank you! More than welcome!
They are definitely tight to fit into the cutout but I've had no issues with chafing or anything on the wires. I checked them daily almost religiously for a good month or so to make sure! Might be worth putting some rubber edging on it to make sure!
Haha yeah! I don't think 9bhp will have much hope 2 up 😂😂
Yeah these cables are so damn tight I’m wondering if something is routed differently. The cables are the only thing preventing everything from lining up and I don’t want to push the rigid section any harder. Even the steering damper was a legend and didn’t expand when I took out both bolts. I need new tyres so I’m going to get a mechanic to reroute the cables and fit the bars at the same time.
Aaaaannnnddddd … fitted! Very pleased to have the extra protection in place (giggity). Thanks again for the video. I know Outback Motortek do a good job on their website of showcasing their products/testing but your video convinced me to check them out in the first place 👍🏻
Nice!! Glad you've got them on! Once that main bar is in place it's pretty simple! I normally take them off for services to save myself an hour of labour fee so it gets easier! Sooo happy I had them and will get them for every bike I can if possible!
Slowly looking like a GSA by the day. 😂😂 love the vid mate #tourist knob 🤣
Absolute blasphemy 😂 tempted by a polite vest and a neotec 2 in white
@@SamVBikes the turning has begun 😂
When they are overpowered knob machines that power wheelie in 3rd, I'll get one. Oh and the exhaust has to be completely anitsocial and pop 😂
@@SamVBikes gs would need 150+hp crank to get my attention. OR perhaps bmw just put 19/17 wheels and long travel suspension on s1000xr 😎😎😎. bhpuk made 170+whp on s1000xr tuning!!!! th-cam.com/video/oRlmoUMJ4V4/w-d-xo.html
I think our bikes are going to be identical once ive got my new sas haha, ive got half of this stuff in basket ready to buy, going to be a fun day fitting everything. Great vid as always. Roll on proper nob mode
Haha! There's already a few people with the same colour, same topbox, tankbag and everything! Cheers mate, appreciate it
You are hilarious. Thanks for the laughs. I was looking at those crash bars and looking at the ultimate protection to add the bash plate (if I trade in my current bike for a 1290 next year). I like that they are from Canada as I am from Canada as well.
Can't wait for the D7's to come in and get installed so I can watch another video of yours. haha
Haha thank you! I've got many more things on my shopping list of things I can't afford but will buy anyway!
Just found you and following you as I was going to do a lot of what you're doing. But you've done it and done all the editing so I don't need to. Great videos. Question on the crash bars: is the tubing better than the standard KTM bars? Is the weight more substantial as I can't find the total weight of these vs the KT stuff? Keep up the good work fella
Thank you! Haha yeah I got a bit money happy. I unfortunately managed to test these bars out yesterday and I would 1000% recommend them. Took the full brunt of a low-side at 30mph odd and didn't deform, didn't move at all. They have ground down the lower right bar but that can be replaced. The bike is fine other than a scratched up exhaust!
I'd say these are thicker than the KTM bars. Weight is a bit more as it's upper and lower, and has the centre bar too, but nothing you'd notice on the road!
Have the same outback crash bars got after watching your video.. but impossible to get the skid plate off- no space to undo the front 2 bolts of the skid plate.. how do you manage the take off for oil changes etc
It's really awkward to get into the upper 2 bolts for it but I loosen the bolts for the lower bars in the centre just so I can move them a bit. You might have to loosen the outer ones a bit too. When I have some spare money I'm going to buy the Outback skidplate too which will make it a lot easier
@@SamVBikes actually i got the outback motortek skid plate and had to return it.. it does not fit with my setup. I have the arrow decat headers with akrapovic end can. Seems like the skid plate works only with stock headers. Looking for another alternate skid plate that can fit this setup
Hi mate, I’ve ordered the bars and want to install the s4 lights, what mounts did you use to connect them to the bars? As you can order the bar mounts or did you use the ktm mounts? Hope that makes sense, thank you
Hey pal! I've recently swapped to the SW Motech clamp type mounts and they have been brilliant. Done a few thousand miles and been faultless!
Could you notice any weight difference? I put a stunt cage on a bike once and it was heavy enough I could feel the difference in regular riding.
Nothing that's noticeable. Or at least I havent felt any difference! The bars don't weigh much at all. I suppose if you put it on a lightweight bike you'd notice it far more
What, you didn't low side it down the road as a final test ;-)
Hahaha! That would be a level of content commitment I can't get reach! Unless they were paying for it ha
How did you find the quality of the mounting bolts, the heads on mine are the worst i have seen. I am happy with the bars and design, but I will replace every bolt with new ones. The heads will definitely round off. Not what i expect when i pay over $1,000.00 for the product
Errrmm... they were okay. Not the best in the world, but they weren't horrendous. Some were way better than others. I'll probably end up replacing them anyway as I'd like all the bolts to be black, and some aren't. But yes.. I agree!
I’m concerned if as this bars are more fixed to the frame in case of crash they can transfer the impact force to the chasis?
The ktm crash bars moves in case of impact they just blend and displace.
But as this motortek you have many bolts in the frame fixation not sure if the bars will displaced or transfer the impact to the frame?
Is there any information about this?
I think for very slow o parking falls will work better than ktm for sure.
But in impacts where you go at for example 30-50km/h in offroad not sure if will translate that to the frame.
The ktm crash bars are like a fuse.
What do you think?
The KTM crash bars also fix to part of the chassis and engine, so not a huge amount of difference. The OM bars have more mounting points to spread the impact across more points to share the load
I've had the misfortune of low-siding the bike with these crash bars on at around 30mph, and had no issues with cracking on the frame or anything. The bike was mostly undamaged besides the exhaust.
The off road crashes and drops have caused zero impact to the bike or bars.
A drop will be fine with either bars as I've experienced with both, the issue comes from the constant, repeated impacts and grinding that comes with an impact followed by slides
Of course there will be instances where a fall will land 'just right' which may cause a frame crack but that can happen with any bars.
Personally I'd opt for the most heavily tested bars I can afford
I'm gonna pick up the 2023 SAS. These probably won't fit because of the changes expected with the 17 inch hoops and lower stance. But will keep an eye on them.
Ahh interesting, I didn't think they would make changes that big without launching a complete new iteration. I know there were talks of a Pikes Peak version with those changes. Normally its just colour changes and small tweaks if any, so that will be a big move!
@@SamVBikes I guess we'll see what they've been up to soon!
Hi Sam
Are you still happy with the Outback Motortek crash bars. Any complaints?
No complaints at all! Love them! Fit nicely, look great, feel solid and work as a really good mount for my insta360 haha. I have my valve clearance service in a few weeks so I might take them off rather than KTM charging £80 an hour to work out how they come off and go back on though 😂
@@SamVBikes
Thanks Sam, they look great.
No prob! Hopefully I'll never have to actually test them!
@@SamVBikes , hopefully, ride safe!
Hi Sam
I finally bought the bike, and put the Outback Motortek crash bars on. They look great, and seem really strong, but like you, I hope I never have to use them. I’ve only had the bike out for a 175km ride, but it seems amazing! Hopefully I don’t get any speeding tickets, but WOW, is it fast! Haha
Next is spoked wheels and you will be ready for any adventure street or dirt.
Don't tempt me!! They have been in my basket for a good few months 😂😂
Nice bars but these will cost you extra at every service or do you plan on removing the whole thing before you take your bike to KTM? Cheers!
They aren't much more difficult to remove than the stock KTM PowerParts ones once that bar is fitted so hopefully not the case. If it costs an extra hours labour, that will be far less than the cost it will save if I ever throw it down the tarmac!
@@SamVBikes OK, fair enough! 👍🏻
This hit a nerve with me now because I stripped my SAS down to the air box three times in a row the last few days… first to get the Denali S4s and the split Sound Bomb installed… the second time to install the green cable (that I completely forgot about) that goes from the hexEZcan to the original horn and than a third time to free the cable of the fuel gauge that I managed to get stuck under the tank but I realized this only before mounting the last part, the glove box! 🙈😅
Hahaha I know the feeling! When I installed the Denali S4s I did a similar thing... its such a pain in the arse isn't it!! Same thing happened with the horn trigger wire etc! At least we know how our bikes come apart now haha
@@SamVBikes Yes we do, haha! At least all the KTM panels and screws are of a decent quality and everything fits well together… unlike a 90’s Suzuki! 😅
Most shops add a small fee if bars or guards take more time
‘I can justify anything if I want it’… yep man maths is a beautiful thing. I once went from looking at a Audi RS4 at 50k and ended up buying a Porseche GT3 CS for 90k, it a few easy steps on autotrader… this is only a couple of grand more than that and you get x, repeat and yep, the budge is blown but ‘legitimately’ 👍
😂😂 50k rounded up is technically 100k... so you actually saved money! A whopping 10k too so good on you for saving so much!
@@SamVBikes yep thats how to sell it to her in doors
Great investment.
Hahahha your a clown man hahaha i really enjoy your vids and sense of humor keep up
The good work!!!
Haha thank you!
Hey there sam, a question: did you buy these after research ? Or just went for them? Saw some heed crash bars video they look tough and good, but just wanted to know if you made research to help me decide which to
Choose thanks!!! 💪🏻🙌🏻
As lame as it sounds, I've been following these crash bars for a few years. It's always interested me how companies sell glorified scaffolding saying they are crash bars, then you see someone come off with them on and they offer barely any protection or just fold into the fairing causing more damage. Outback Motortek have been on my list for years because of the way they test and are open about their develpment. Especially like that they wouldn't out a product on the market with the KTM bars because the KTM ones weren't good enough. If I'm going to have crash bars, I want them to minimise damage in a crash, not just look cool haha!
I've seen the Heed ones too which look nice, but there's not really enough evidence to prove they work in a crash for my liking! Doesn't mean they won't work well though
Nothing like Monday morning bike porn, looks magic keep it lit Sam
Haha! Too right! Cheers bud 👍🏼