@@emseashels ik ts is shit but sm isn't good as well and johnny and jaehyun doesn't know what ts does to their idols and trainees since they're in sm so they only know how sm treats their idols and trainees, we also don't know what happens behind the stages we only have a clue
@@bunny-ry2kg although sm is undeniably not a great company, compared to ts they are probably really good. I think their surprise came from 1. They are still /relatively/ new (I know it's like 2 or 3 years) and probably didn't have enough time to be as frustrated with sm as bap is with ts. 2. They didn't expect them to call out their own company and say that its not worth joining.
@@catch_me_if_you_can6596 I think the reason he and jyp aren't good is because JYP basically threw him under the bus and didn't stand up for him or try to defend him I guess
LuLu yeah what happened was that he got into a scandal and jyp rather defending him or doing anything to help him out, he just kicked him out of the company when he saw the scandal.
LuLu Well it’s pretty hard to defend someone who disrespected his own nation. Can’t really blame JYP for it. And come on guys, JYP accepted the apology. It’s just the netizens who wanted him out of the group. Pretty sure JYP was having double thoughts about this because first, it was his artist who did it. His artist whom he trained, casted and cared (Yes he cares. He wouldn’t accept the apology if he didn’t. However, accepting an apology is different than defending him for what he did). Second, JYP himself is a korean, nonetheless a korean guy. And Jay Park called out “koreans” as gays. I’m sure he was very offended by it. I mean, who wouldn’t be? Hence the reason why netizens wanted to give him a punishment (being kicked out of the company and defaming the guy). So whatever their shade is with at each other must be on something that happened INSIDE the company that was never broadcasted or just Jay Park being childish as what he claimed himself as to defend himself.
@@sakurakou2009 it wasn't on purpose. he made racist and offensive remarks about korea because of the culture differences he experienced. he then ran away from the issue back to america and the company had no other choice but to kick him out... how it was handled may not have been the greatest thing in the world, but jay park was just as guilty as jyp...
Jay Park is one of the greatest examples of success despite the odds and the dirty play of the big companies. It still happens nowadays, we all know the struggles BTS went through because they were from a smal company against the big 3, so imagine how hard Jay must have had it eight years ago going solo after a scandal and after getting out of jyp. To think of all he has achieved through his talent and hard work!! So proud of our boy!
kkpop lover but kpop industry in general is shady af from from discrimination of Chinese members or non Korean members, to uneven pay, slave contracts. Jyj couldn't go on other shows or variety shows. Jessica from girls generation also. The big three run the industry so there is lot of shady things going on too. That's why I'm so proud of jay park and bts to overcome all that.
hy there Good thing most koreans understand that reckless things said when you are young and alone and desperate in a foreign country does not define your entire life. Jay is making big coin from Korea, I mean he is the CEO of two agencies in Korea, does tons of ads for companies in Korea, Korean tv shows constantly beg him to appear, what oblivion are you talking about? 😂😂 Boy bye.
kkpop lover That literally has nothing to do with what I was saying in my comment but ok. I never said groups from the big 3 didn't work hard, but what a sweet little thing you are if you say you are a kpop lover but don't understand how the kpop industry works, how unfair it can be and the advantages some groups have. Everyone has to work hard in the kpop industry, all that training, rehearsing and crazy work hours are no joke, but some will work harder than others and still reach nowhere because they lack the exposure and resources a big company can provide.
@@Dino13 well he was a dumbass for humiliating korean. He did it to himself,of course he will bounce back in fame cause of 2pm and JYP help it grow. Kinda like Kris,Tao and Luhan. He was pretty much a 6ix9ine or kanye of korea
Rizzy정 if you’ve seen roommates season 2 he flew Jackson’s parents out from China to Korea for Jackson from what I’ve seen it looks like park Jin-young really cares about his idols or when he was on weekly idol Hani auditioned for jyp but didn’t make it and he didn’t make her feel bad or anything the same with Yuju he seems more caring from what I’ve seen then sm and yg
SHINee's Key always throw shade to SM for not valuing his old idols. In programs made by the SM, he always say that the old school have done and have given things to the SM (like elevators to company's buildings, to build more buildings, cafeteria, etc) and they not receive what they deserve from their company, it's frustrating. He sees it in his close friends of F(x). You should check him.
@@larasih876 also in his show with BoA, he always mentioned how she gave them a lot on camera and of course people in SM understood that. He also helped her in her comeback. He told the choreographer that he should listen to BoA, because she was already a veteran in the industry and she knew what she was doing to win over the younger audience, that SM always put her in very difficult choreographies and did not captivate the audience how she has now fact. He helped to promote S.E.S's comeback and he always jokes saying things like: "We gave this building to SM, just saying".
@SearchEXOonTH-cam LottoMonsterCallmebabyMV I know that, I'm sorry for YG and JYP artist, like Bobby said, they're not allow to see BlackPink members but in SM they're all a family and I think that's a good thing. SM has a lot of good things but also has a bad ones, like lightstick, it took 10 years to SHINee for have an official one, and NCT already have theirs like wtf, also GG and BoA, and let's be real, female idol's lightsticks on SM are all alike, they gave SHINee, EXO, SUJU, NCT, etc a diferent one but I see no diferences between RV, GG and BoA's lightstick. And yeah, I don't understand why EXO were out for so long. But Amber said a lot of times she has new songs and SM don't give her a solo album, they only gave her a single this year. And there's more, SM is not that bad compares to others, but it's ok that idols can talk about this sometimes, I need to see Kibum, Baekhyun and Taeyeon in this kind of videos.
Pink Gangsta she deserves better, just like how Lee Hi deserves better too. I mean, they’re both amazing singers but they were not given enough attention by their companies.
@@imlivingforsejunssmileandd9687 Lee Hi left YG too 😌 When they join Superstar K, everyone wanna them to join their agency (judges agency) but after signing contract they treat them so badly.
Pink Gangsta I didn’t know Lee Hi left YG already, the last article I’ve read is that her contract is ending but did not say if she’ll renew it. Thank God, I hope she’d go to an agency who can promote her better because I really really like her singing voice.
As a fan who joined the kpop community in 2009, I can really say that 2nd gen groups and trainees were treated like dirt compared to now. It's sad to think about it even years later and it's even sadder to think that 3rd gen artists and trainees are only treated slightly better compared to before.
mýá so true, trainee years where for almost all of those idols HELL, i remember apink saying they where training for years and almost never allowed to eat because they needed them to be underweight. always being told off and Naeun said she cried so much during her training years.. (except for eunji, she even said she was lucky for not having to go trough all of that) just imagine all those idols going trough all that crap to debut and not make it. Just look at the unit and produce.. it’s really depressing 😔
I wish I could have joined sooner (I joined in JAN 2017) because I honestly like gen 2 & 3 better than gen 4. Rewatching even Miss A makes me so nostalgic even though I wasn't there when it released and I never stanned them. Maybe it's just the vibe of the song. I don't know, I just prefer older Kpop songs over the new ones right now. But yeah, I do agree, older gens were treated worse than the ones right now, but since then it has changed so at least there's a bright side.
TnyD01 YES I remember watching one of apink’s old variety shows and they were just eating vegetables with no kind of dressing or anything, and when the manager brought a can of some bland ass, unseasoned chicken breasts they got so excited. It made me really sad
You didn't include Lee Hong Ki, the CEO called him despicable on a radio show and he called the radio himself to do an interview and he cleared his name in front of everyone... Lee Hong Ki has guts he didn't allow anyone to put him down not even the CEO of FNC. He did it in the past and still does it...
Yaaas ya boi hustlin haaard. Would be rad if he joins variety shows though but he too busy already haha but I'm quite sad that he mentioned he's underrated and that people don't really know him. Twas one of his recent tweet. Boy needs to blow up more Ps, he don't need to have his artists join music shows. He grabbing no. 1s every release
lmaoo im glad BAP was included in this. They actually went on for so much longer in front of NCT that the poor kids were so flustered bc its not like they could add in with shitting on TS.
"according to SM Law, MVs can NOT have actors/singers from other ent companies. Only SM. So SM tries to do dramas, MVs and etc... only with the SM family" - shows how shallow SM really is. Hee Chul is a good artist who knows that there are other artists outside SM that are equally or more talented than the artists in SM.
What about stations? SinB, Soyeon, Chungha? (Idk if Chungha is in SM) And the 2016 station- Born To Be Wild. JYP, Jo Kwon is there. (Idk which company is Min)
@@aizen3215 are you serious. I'm so disgusted any time I think of them. Fortunately that doesn't happen very often. They seem extremely unwholesome and their strategy moves leave me speechless to the point I wondered how they could ever become so powerful. I'm not close minded but I can't believe they have improved in any ways. If I saw good things in them, I would have no problem to recognize it. I feel so sorry for the talented artists who have contracts with them.
I hope all BAP members could end their contract then get out of TS, do music together after the departure, they’re talented and great musicians, their songs are meaningful and catchy, and I hope people stop sleeping on them
I can't even enjoy B.A.P's mv without remembering their shitty company. Whatever happens to Himchan's case? The one that he allegedly harassing some woman? Bet TS has a part in it.
Blood Majesty me too, I’m not sure about Himchan’s, TS more bad than the rumors anyway, I was amazed by them before and how they easily grew fans during their debut era and then suddenly they’re in hiatus and the feeling of disbandment appears, many fans lost in hope waiting for them, it’s all bc of TS, it’s really sad and such a big waste of talents
@@Enriquezkika1617 From what I know TS is an abusive company - late payment (or no payment at all), slave contracts, BAP did marketing and paying for medical treatments out of their own pocket, not properly protecting BAP's security, dragging them out to perform when they literally collapsed from fatigue and stress (oxygen mask and all) - in conclusion TS is a truly shitty company. BAP consider SM as a better company than TS - that's something.
Can't even *meet* Blackpink!? that's so weird even though their under the same label. I don't get why boys and girls can't date or even interact with one a other without it being a scandal. EDIT: I posted this comment BEFORE Jennie and Kai were confirmed dating after getting caught by Dispatch so y'all can stop asking.
@@fauziahnurizzati2424 2NE1 has a lot of friends outside the company. I think they were saying how nobody approached them bc they had this really strong vibe about them. Big Bang and 2NE1 members hanged out all the time. YG is hella weird.
YG gets the most criticism from netizens and scandals. YG ENT doesn't want that to happen again. So it is understandable and will keep their artist safe from possible career-ending scandals.
For people who dream of being artists (as opposed to just being famous), I think you really need to think carefully before going the idol route. There are some who have made it work, but you really need to be a good match with the company you choose, so you can work within the system and still be able to express your creativity.
I admire Jay Park for that but once I went to show in Paris and he performed like 30min because he was late and his first part who was another rapper performed 40 min I was so disappointed. And then I went to sm artist show Super Junior /Shinee/Smtown and they give you real amazing show for at least 3hours that is why also I prefer bigger companies because they will give you for your money. We can say what we want about big companies but at least they are serious.
how is it the biggest slap to jyp lol? jay made mistakes and ran away from it. the company had no other choice but to remove him. I feel like no one really knows what happened back then really shows. jyp ent may not be innocent but neither is jay. stop trying to advertise his woke and all and kissing his ass
@@cm-jw4rz but thats what he did lol? he literally left korea back to the us thinking that it would die down because he gone? i think i'm quite aware of what happened thank you very much
Jay Park is the man. Great to see him succeed with his own company, AOMG. Having the freedom to create and produce his own tracks brought out the real artist in him. Much respect!
Jay park exposing how jypent use to be bc they only change during 3rd gen but back in second jyp was one of the worst in terms of how they treat there idols they where upu there with sm,yg and ts so much respect to jay park for showing how jyp wasn't always a good company in how they treat their idols
@@anouar4664 first don't be a dick and by freedom i fucking mean there allowed to date of course i know the shit with nct manger you feel I'm stupid you should really ask what you mean instead of calling me a bitch and i thought you where cool
Exactly what I was thinking. It seems to be more a culture clash than anything else. How his experience affected him wouldn't necessarily affect other idols or trainees the same way. Especially idols who have created their own niche in the industry - if they weren't passionate about their craft, they wouldn't have bothered. People like Taemin for example.
I was a hottest(2pm fan) and I still remember when Jay Park was cut from the group. He's such a good rapper that I believe (back then) that he could rival GDragon when it comes to rapping and singing. They did him really dirty that time. Not much explanations were given to the fans why he was cut even if he was the leader. I'm so happy now he's making music according to how he wants it.
I love Kpop and the entertainment companies come up with good groups and music but how they are threat their idols? Nah. Controlling someone his/her private live is just disgusting. All the companies are the same: it’s just about the money and satisfying fans.
I saw the title and I thought this video needs to have BAP in it. I'm not disappointed 😂 thumbs up! There are so many moments of shade it deserves an entire video lol.
For the artists that were under these and got out it seems more like it's God's work that something came up to get them out. Because it's seems to me that they are doing so much better now that they are on there own. But I do still wonder about the other groups that are still under them.
And it makes me think of the people who trained for very long time and it perhaps it scarred many things in them and then fail and have nothing to pay their debts... 😭💔 That they might feel they have let down themselves and their families
FunSoSoToTo a lot is psychological...like tell sell you the idea of fame and fortune,,,then once you get in you go to this robot training school ...sometimes the trainers and managers scare them saying they can be replaced, etc....negative reinforcement scares you, you dont want to quit because shame....it is brain washing... and it takes strong will to stand up for yourswlf (talk back) or leave..
@@npcimknot958 yeeeees exactly 💔💔💔💔, and I still wonder how parents throw their kids into this ESPECIALLY if they are living well, probably they are escaping from another pressure...
I am not a SM stan, but they have every reason to believe they're the best. I'll give them that. Most of their artist tends to succeed and make it big, just a matter of time. Not to mention, most of the group they made, despite losing some members, remained active for a very long time without disbanding (TVXQ, SJ, SNSD, Shinhwa, Shinee etc). Comparing among big 3, they have the most long-running groups. While soloist like Rain & Se7en left their company, SM still have BoA and Stephanie, active. Remember how people used to called exo a 'failed debut' compared to their sunbaes? Well, look at them NOW.
Yeah, because SM's outreach is the best in the country (along with YG). SM is basically one of the founders of modern produced K-pop; they have all the resources to perfectly train their idols with world class choreographers, vocal coaches, acting coaches. Even if they have a slow start like EXO or Red Velvet, they will eventually sky rocket in popularity because SM basically has it down to a formula. Not only is money important for a group's success, but politics plays a major role and Lee Sooman (even though he isn't the big CEO anymore) has a billion connections that will ensure the success of his company and employees. It's sad how much politics is involved in K-pop. I see so many extremely talented artists in the industry but because they come from a smaller company with little influence, they never become popular. Also, SM has a rule against disbanding.
They are good at training ,they are good at choosing and they are good at making good songs but management is shit, they are way too aggressive(Especially when an idol leaves or spill some tea) and controlling. Also, they really don't care about their older idols. I am really afraid of what will happen to Exo when they get old
@@exosproudmamabear558 what do you mean with "way too aggressive"? SM never give a f*ck abt their image tho😂😂 (even if there are many artist leaves and spill some tea) Ikr, idk either what will happen with exo. Hope they still love each other and make their own company, like SJ
I LOVVEED what jay said about how even tho they were getting recognized and becoming famous it didn’t feel fulfilling because it was just handed to them, this is why I love and appreciate self made made artists more even tho they’re the underrated ones bc they’re not from a big company
hy there now now, nobody should “die by oblivion.” End of day he is a human. He should have the opportunity to talk about what happened. Espesh when it’s still fucking him over.
hyewonnie an icon who made mistakes when he was 13-15 years old on MySpace. One who is now 30 and changed, reflected, and pondered on. He apologized, he was dumb and made a mistake. He was a foreigner in a foreign country and his friends were at home in America. I get both sides but think about it like this. Imagine if your things from when you first went on social media went public. Awkward right? Imagine people belittling you about a situation about it 10+ years later. He’s an icon for being himself, by producing music, by having a successful record label and having a name even if JYPE is still trying to smush him in a way. He’s an icon bc he proves that he is human. I honesty look up to him.
I think one of the important points with Jay Park is that it wasn’t really his dream to begin with. He was an American boy with the American mindset who from the beginning (like he said himself) wasn’t thinking about sticking around in 2pm for too long. Also he had somewhere to go back to. There are so many other idols who not only grew up in Korea but also had the dream to become performers since they were little. People like Taemin, Taeyeon and GD went through the process of being an idol, disliking things along the way, (I mean Taeyeon hates Gee to this day lol) and when the time came they they were able to use that creativity. Or look at Sunmi the music she makes now is amazing!! My point is Jay Park is really inspiring and I admire him very much but although it’s true the Kpop industry has to change a lot still, he was a very specific case and not every other artist in Korea can be upheld to that. We know idols aren’t robots, we know they aren’t perfect copies of each other, it just wasn’t an industry he fitted in at the time, so he chose to leave, other people chose to stay and endure. Doesn’t mean one artist is better than the other or inferior, they are just different.
In Jay Park's case tho, I think he just clashed with Korean Industry culture as a whole, not just JYP itself. He's very opinionated and has strong beliefs and ideals, and that goes against Asian dictator-like discipline. His pure musician ideals also go against Korean Entertainment as a whole, who basically uses their idols more as puppets instead of real musicians (at that time). JYPE at that time also made shittons of mistakes. I'm just glad JYP's upgraded now.
It’s funny how bts Jungkook choose big hit ent just bcs he adore RM so much eventhough back then he was offered by SM and JYP and lot more big companies
Damn the amount of times Heechul shades I love how he’s still part of SM 👏👏😂😂💕 And OML Jay Park. Bless his soul honestly done so well for him self. He’s just The embodiment of kpop freedom 👏🔥👏🔥👏
This is why I don't like it when people blame all the shit that goes on with the companies on the idols or even the fandoms. They don't want it to be like that and we don't either. The first example that comes to my mind is how everyone seems to think SM artists behave like they're superior and SM stans think their idols are better than anyone else: no. SM think they're the kings of the industry, but their artists are actually really humble and kind and they themselves recognize SM's way of thinking isn't right. Same goes for the "your faves are flops and they haven't had a comeback in months" bullshit: maybe they don't enjoy being jobless either, maybe it's someone else's fault? And don't even get me started about people making fun of groups who lost one or more members: if you know nothing about idols mistreatment, don't talk. These people did not risk their ass to expose their own companies just for you to blame it on them or their fans. Look up the info before you speak.
Jay Park saying how it was training train to sing this way, train to damce this way, train to interact this way and slowly losing his passion and creativity. Now he's a free artist with a good company. Artist should be trained to boost their talents not stagnate them into something else.
Jay Park talking so openly about his experience is so raw like we see so many idols leaving companies and people are always like "He trained for so long, why did he leave" "Imagine if he debuted with THAT group" when training to be an idol is so hardcore you literally lose yourself in the process. Its sad. Thats why I admire idols esp those from the Big3 in particular because they go through so much shit and its such heavy competition to be chosen like props to you.
its so crazy that they get blocked from performing on music shows!! Are these companies afraid of these individuals success? if you're not, don't block!
Emm... Do you know that he still holds 20% of the company? Even when he was the CEO he did dirt. All kpop companies are shitty and that's the truth. Well, only Around Us it's good.
Yup we want lee soo man back..before jessica leave sm lee soo man not ceo of sm anymore..starting that time tiffany and jessica alway talk about hate sm..they mention it in a show
@@yeonju588 AHAHAHA YOU don't know anything. Oooh do you need to be remembered what happened with TVXQ/DBSK and JYJ??? Or we can talk about how they treat their foreigner idols Lol, Plus as I said this man still holds 20% of the company xD (and do I need to talk about how they treat their idols now and before? They still do the same thing lmao) SM IS one of the worst kpop company. (And I say it as I know how they work because I love their idols and their songs in general, F(x) - bless them - is one of my fav girls bands)
My heart still hurts thinking about how much BAP suffered because of TS. The fact that most of them went into depression and Daehyun had drinking problems, ughhh. I just want to slap TS' CEO.
I'm not suprised when B.A.P is right here. That TShit did them very dirty. That company is the worst company i've ever seen. Although i know some companies are worst but this is the worst one. It looks like that company is coming from hell. They didnt pay them at all for a very long time and then when they finally paying them they pay them late like wth? B.A.P are so talented , very talented. Not just in music but perfomances and choreography too. During their rookie era South Korea wont call them monster rookies for nothing. Thats what makes my heart break 😖💔
I'll admit that JYP still has A LOT of work to do, but compared to other companies tho... he's definitely the best in taking care of his idols, trainees, and staff. Anyways, B.A.P deserved better.
I must say Jay seriously.. with that rap lyrics.. he understand so well how diff their way seeing everything and how unfair back then.. the other politics, see me do the music.. I'm glad he is out and make his life and career success. Bless him.
I actually think it’s a good thing that idols speak out against their mistreatments, I think it helps us as fans to better understand what it’s like in their shoes.
Sometimes I feel like many many companies misvalue their idols I mean look at Jay Park with freedom he was able to do many great things . I think companies need to gave idols this
Bobby was just smooth-talking his way to prevent trouble. Do you really believe iKON has never once met BLACKPINK? LOL let's be real here. If Bobby said iKON and BLACKPINK are close friends or even just friends, not only will the second most vicious fandom in the Kpop world known as BLINKs will come for his head, his own fans will also boycott him. It already happened before. Bobby was rumored (yes, just RUMORED) to be a dating a model and what did his fans do? Yep.
After watching the video I realised that Bighit really treat their Artist so nicely. Like, they give them their freedom to make their own music, write their lyrics, do whatever they wanted to. I can't even imagine a life over which I have no control over. Still go out everyday with a smile in face and meet people. It's really kill talent of those artists. Thank you Bang PDnim for taking such good care of our boys.
Ugh I love these. Some people can love a company too much and think I'm a hater when I criticise some agencies but I just want them to do better to their artists.
People been saying YG make those rules because of the controversy from his past artists, but little did they know the more they try to suppress these kids, the more rebellious they will get. Restricting their freedom will not do any good. Not to mention in this industry where temptation is everywhere. Idk it reminds me of Disney. We all know how most of their child stars end up too. I would not get mad if the rules make sense, but most of it sounds ridiculous.
Knowing how many idols "complained" about their situation to their own agencies sometimes makes feel sorry for them (idols). It's frustrating. I feel like their freedoms, their rights, to be human have been taken away. Yet there's nothing they can do about it besides leaving the company or start over again. I'm still waiting for the day to come, when all the kpop idols speak up and never again normalize this kind of "system" that treats them like they're just some products which are owned by companies.
I still remember the video where JYP listened to GOT7's JB's self written songs for less than 5 seconds and rejected all of them.... I mean don't kill the talent dude!!!
And the fact that some "kpoppies" think so highly of SM makes me laugh. Come on, don't forget what they did to Jessica. That sh*t company can't even protect their own idols! And the fact that they basically mistreat their foreign idols cannot be ignored.
For anyone who dreams about being a celebrity or an idol, I advise you to *think about it carefully.* Celebrities don't live *their* own lives-their lives are *managed by their companies* and *dictated by their contracts.* The world of fame isn't everything that T.V. makes it out to be, and the idols you all look up and aspire to be like all endure the darker side that no one sees on media. Let's also take into account that we really need to stop berating and criticizing those who are involved in scandals and controversies, because at the end of they day, they're only humans after all.
I'm watching from 2020, just some days after Jinhwan and Junhoe got into an accident and I am so mad at YG at 2:41, obtaining driver's license is prohibited but YG had a drunk driver drive for Jinhwan and Junhoe? It's so disappointing :((
Here's the thing, I put my phone near my ear on Jay Parks part and istg.. it sounded like I was on a call with him so he could put me to sleep with that smooth voice 💖
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Jimin is like that vine: "WHERE IS THE ALBUM ? WE NEED THE DAMN ALBUM. WHERE IS THE ALBUM ? WE NEED THE DAMN ALBUM." lmao
@Rapline said 땡 to all BTS haters & dat's da tea Cause it's iconic
Lmao i wonder if that's why jae was dying...he thinks in meme
Us when we need a comeback from blackpink 😂
Where is the lamb sauce???
"I AM A SINGER. I NEED MY OWN ALBUM. I AM A SINGER. I NEED MY OWN ALBUM-"
Jaehyun and Johnny was so shocked when B.A.P asked if they can go to SM HAHAHAH
they were like "bitch r u sure you want to join hell?"
soft skz tbh ts is worse
@@emseashels ik ts is shit but sm isn't good as well and johnny and jaehyun doesn't know what ts does to their idols and trainees since they're in sm so they only know how sm treats their idols and trainees, we also don't know what happens behind the stages we only have a clue
@@bunny-ry2kg although sm is undeniably not a great company, compared to ts they are probably really good. I think their surprise came from 1. They are still /relatively/ new (I know it's like 2 or 3 years) and probably didn't have enough time to be as frustrated with sm as bap is with ts. 2. They didn't expect them to call out their own company and say that its not worth joining.
They’re we’re like you sure ,my guy ?
Jay Park is so funny bro I had no idea "but the homie was getting his ass whooped, not me though ahaha I was good at dancing"
korea banished him not jyp
@@Apple-rx1ik his old story before he came to Korea or joined JYP.
@@catch_me_if_you_can6596 I think the reason he and jyp aren't good is because JYP basically threw him under the bus and didn't stand up for him or try to defend him I guess
LuLu yeah what happened was that he got into a scandal and jyp rather defending him or doing anything to help him out, he just kicked him out of the company when he saw the scandal.
LuLu Well it’s pretty hard to defend someone who disrespected his own nation. Can’t really blame JYP for it. And come on guys, JYP accepted the apology. It’s just the netizens who wanted him out of the group.
Pretty sure JYP was having double thoughts about this because first, it was his artist who did it. His artist whom he trained, casted and cared (Yes he cares. He wouldn’t accept the apology if he didn’t. However, accepting an apology is different than defending him for what he did). Second, JYP himself is a korean, nonetheless a korean guy. And Jay Park called out “koreans” as gays. I’m sure he was very offended by it. I mean, who wouldn’t be? Hence the reason why netizens wanted to give him a punishment (being kicked out of the company and defaming the guy).
So whatever their shade is with at each other must be on something that happened INSIDE the company that was never broadcasted or just Jay Park being childish as what he claimed himself as to defend himself.
Jay park woke af. That takes so much to leave such an impressive company over a belief. I’m proud of him
he was kicked out
He didn't leave on amicable terms. He made a ruckus over there in Korea so JYP was forced to kick him out.
@@ZXbolterZX I think he did that on purpose so he can leave jyp
@@sakurakou2009 it wasn't on purpose. he made racist and offensive remarks about korea because of the culture differences he experienced. he then ran away from the issue back to america and the company had no other choice but to kick him out... how it was handled may not have been the greatest thing in the world, but jay park was just as guilty as jyp...
Proud of him too and how successful he is now..you go Jay❤
Jay Park is one of the greatest examples of success despite the odds and the dirty play of the big companies. It still happens nowadays, we all know the struggles BTS went through because they were from a smal company against the big 3, so imagine how hard Jay must have had it eight years ago going solo after a scandal and after getting out of jyp. To think of all he has achieved through his talent and hard work!! So proud of our boy!
Groups from the big 3 also worked hard. Regardless of the company they are in they worked really hard. They became big 3 because they worked hard.
kkpop lover but kpop industry in general is shady af from from discrimination of Chinese members or non Korean members, to uneven pay, slave contracts. Jyj couldn't go on other shows or variety shows. Jessica from girls generation also. The big three run the industry so there is lot of shady things going on too. That's why I'm so proud of jay park and bts to overcome all that.
hy there Good thing most koreans understand that reckless things said when you are young and alone and desperate in a foreign country does not define your entire life. Jay is making big coin from Korea, I mean he is the CEO of two agencies in Korea, does tons of ads for companies in Korea, Korean tv shows constantly beg him to appear, what oblivion are you talking about? 😂😂 Boy bye.
kkpop lover That literally has nothing to do with what I was saying in my comment but ok. I never said groups from the big 3 didn't work hard, but what a sweet little thing you are if you say you are a kpop lover but don't understand how the kpop industry works, how unfair it can be and the advantages some groups have. Everyone has to work hard in the kpop industry, all that training, rehearsing and crazy work hours are no joke, but some will work harder than others and still reach nowhere because they lack the exposure and resources a big company can provide.
@@Dino13 well he was a dumbass for humiliating korean. He did it to himself,of course he will bounce back in fame cause of 2pm and JYP help it grow. Kinda like Kris,Tao and Luhan. He was pretty much a 6ix9ine or kanye of korea
You can’t forget when taeyang said he likes SM more than YG it wasn’t really a diss but it was funny
This is every YG artist! hahahah fs
YG are SM stans 😂
I like jyp ent he might suck at giving out albums but i cant lie that his company is the safest place
Rizzy정 if you’ve seen roommates season 2 he flew Jackson’s parents out from China to Korea for Jackson from what I’ve seen it looks like park Jin-young really cares about his idols or when he was on weekly idol Hani auditioned for jyp but didn’t make it and he didn’t make her feel bad or anything the same with Yuju he seems more caring from what I’ve seen then sm and yg
@@Minsajang and SM are YG stans lmao
B.A.P shading TS at any given moment is what I live for. That company did my boys so wrong. They deserved so much better😭
TShit Ent is really the worse
B.A.P. deserves better
Ps. U gotta cute ass profile picture 😍
@@Danielle-iq5jn Yes they do! Thank you❤ I love your name and picture!
@@mikenlar Definitely. The worst of the worst.
What happened
SHINee's Key always throw shade to SM for not valuing his old idols. In programs made by the SM, he always say that the old school have done and have given things to the SM (like elevators to company's buildings, to build more buildings, cafeteria, etc) and they not receive what they deserve from their company, it's frustrating. He sees it in his close friends of F(x). You should check him.
He mentioned that in Happy Together, right??
@@larasih876 yup
@@larasih876 also in his show with BoA, he always mentioned how she gave them a lot on camera and of course people in SM understood that. He also helped her in her comeback.
He told the choreographer that he should listen to BoA, because she was already a veteran in the industry and she knew what she was doing to win over the younger audience, that SM always put her in very difficult choreographies and did not captivate the audience how she has now fact. He
helped to promote S.E.S's comeback
and he always jokes saying things like: "We gave this building to SM, just saying".
@SearchEXOonTH-cam LottoMonsterCallmebabyMV I know that, I'm sorry for YG and JYP artist, like Bobby said, they're not allow to see BlackPink members but in SM they're all a family and I think that's a good thing. SM has a lot of good things but also has a bad ones, like lightstick, it took 10 years to SHINee for have an official one, and NCT already have theirs like wtf, also GG and BoA, and let's be real, female idol's lightsticks on SM are all alike, they gave SHINee, EXO, SUJU, NCT, etc a diferent one but I see no diferences between RV, GG and BoA's lightstick. And yeah, I don't understand why EXO were out for so long. But Amber said a lot of times she has new songs and SM don't give her a solo album, they only gave her a single this year. And there's more, SM is not that bad compares to others, but it's ok that idols can talk about this sometimes, I need to see Kibum, Baekhyun and Taeyeon in this kind of videos.
@SearchEXOonTH-cam LottoMonsterCallmebabyMV is that why SM is promoting NCT more than exo?
That “JYP! Are you listening? I’m a singer. That’s why I need an album.” line of Jimin will never get old. It always cracks me up 😂😂
Finally she left JYP
Pink Gangsta she deserves better, just like how Lee Hi deserves better too. I mean, they’re both amazing singers but they were not given enough attention by their companies.
@@imlivingforsejunssmileandd9687 Lee Hi left YG too 😌
When they join Superstar K, everyone wanna them to join their agency (judges agency) but after signing contract they treat them so badly.
Pink Gangsta I didn’t know Lee Hi left YG already, the last article I’ve read is that her contract is ending but did not say if she’ll renew it. Thank God, I hope she’d go to an agency who can promote her better because I really really like her singing voice.
@@imlivingforsejunssmileandd9687 she left 4 months a go (if I'm not wrong). She'll collab with Chanyeol and Raiden in may 12th
Love how B.A.P wanted to move to SM when they probably know how strict SM is
It's ok since SM is better than TShit
But the problem is B.A.P have different styles with SM
SM is strict but compared to ts who actually have welfare issues and complete lack of promotion I think bap would take anything
Anything is better than TS
As a fan who joined the kpop community in 2009, I can really say that 2nd gen groups and trainees were treated like dirt compared to now. It's sad to think about it even years later and it's even sadder to think that 3rd gen artists and trainees are only treated slightly better compared to before.
mýá so true, trainee years where for almost all of those idols HELL, i remember apink saying they where training for years and almost never allowed to eat because they needed them to be underweight. always being told off and Naeun said she cried so much during her training years.. (except for eunji, she even said she was lucky for not having to go trough all of that)
just imagine all those idols going trough all that crap to debut and not make it. Just look at the unit and produce.. it’s really depressing 😔
I wish I could have joined sooner (I joined in JAN 2017) because I honestly like gen 2 & 3 better than gen 4. Rewatching even Miss A makes me so nostalgic even though I wasn't there when it released and I never stanned them. Maybe it's just the vibe of the song. I don't know, I just prefer older Kpop songs over the new ones right now. But yeah, I do agree, older gens were treated worse than the ones right now, but since then it has changed so at least there's a bright side.
TnyD01 YES I remember watching one of apink’s old variety shows and they were just eating vegetables with no kind of dressing or anything, and when the manager brought a can of some bland ass, unseasoned chicken breasts they got so excited. It made me really sad
Abigail Ammazi ikr 😔 there are a lot off videos and also some where you can see the teachers being really harsh 😓
Abigail Ammazi and that was when they were filming, imagine what happens behind the scenes 😓
You didn't include Lee Hong Ki, the CEO called him despicable on a radio show and he called the radio himself to do an interview and he cleared his name in front of everyone... Lee Hong Ki has guts he didn't allow anyone to put him down not even the CEO of FNC. He did it in the past and still does it...
Yeah he even said he will put a bomb in the company.
like omg Honggi vs. FNC is legendary.
I love him
FTisland is the one who made FNC the way bigbang made YG. Soo yes, he has power
I was waiting for it too. 😂
Shout out to Jay Park. When you see how powerful he is, I can't imagine what he would be if JYP let him run his business O-O
👏👏👏 preach
Yaaas ya boi hustlin haaard. Would be rad if he joins variety shows though but he too busy already haha but I'm quite sad that he mentioned he's underrated and that people don't really know him. Twas one of his recent tweet. Boy needs to blow up more
Ps, he don't need to have his artists join music shows. He grabbing no. 1s every release
he wasn't in jyp when he started his label?? what are you talking about
Jay park is kind of problematic tho i am on his side but dude seem like a korean kanye west now a days😂😂😂
@@dabhyun1133 Well, he only listened to american music growing up and he also lived in the states, so it makes sense
Idols throwing shades to their company
Heechul: My time has come.
Let’s not forgot S.M. has had 7 lawsuits thrown at them for dodgy conditions
This needs taeyeon shading sm on her Instagram for like the 10th time 😂
Also taeyeon calling out sm during her concert because of defected albums
😂😂😂
Not only TAEYEON tho... SEOHYUN also threw shade at SM.. lol..
Seo has to be here too, when she got rejected 6 songs more less
and taeyeon said : "When SM is being SM" 😂😂😂
lmaoo im glad BAP was included in this. They actually went on for so much longer in front of NCT that the poor kids were so flustered bc its not like they could add in with shitting on TS.
Probs Johnny and Jaehyun's head: *Don't come to SM. They'll lock you up in the basement*
Lol jk
IntoMyWorld97 lmao really?
@@jblee9263 I think yes because B.A.P has different styles with SM so it can be hard for SM itself 😂
@@jblee9263 in the basement with EXO
They looked so uncomfortable I felt so bad for them, they were relatively new too
"according to SM Law, MVs can NOT have actors/singers from other ent companies. Only SM. So SM tries to do dramas, MVs and etc... only with the SM family" - shows how shallow SM really is. Hee Chul is a good artist who knows that there are other artists outside SM that are equally or more talented than the artists in SM.
That happened 5 years ago
What about stations?
SinB, Soyeon, Chungha?
(Idk if Chungha is in SM)
And the 2016 station- Born To Be Wild.
JYP, Jo Kwon is there.
(Idk which company is Min)
@@pinkerton500 Min is from JYP too
@@pinkerton500 That was years ago. These days SM will do collaboration with artists from other agency. Chungha is from MNH.
SM has changed. Nowadays they they hv become better. Sometimes we need all this shading to open their eyes just like jay park do to jyp.
B.A.P asking NCT if they could go to SM 😂
I agree cos TS did them so dirty. Worst company tbh
You know how bad things are when you want to switch to SM
I mean, I would switch to Big Hit instead. even SM are no Angels.
Not Telling sm is not that bad😒fr people need to open their eyes to see how much sm have improved these days huh
Fraud their worldtour concert money with many reason....
@@aizen3215 are you serious. I'm so disgusted any time I think of them. Fortunately that doesn't happen very often. They seem extremely unwholesome and their strategy moves leave me speechless to the point I wondered how they could ever become so powerful. I'm not close minded but I can't believe they have improved in any ways. If I saw good things in them, I would have no problem to recognize it. I feel so sorry for the talented artists who have contracts with them.
I hope all BAP members could end their contract then get out of TS, do music together after the departure, they’re talented and great musicians, their songs are meaningful and catchy, and I hope people stop sleeping on them
I can't even enjoy B.A.P's mv without remembering their shitty company. Whatever happens to Himchan's case? The one that he allegedly harassing some woman? Bet TS has a part in it.
Blood Majesty me too, I’m not sure about Himchan’s, TS more bad than the rumors anyway, I was amazed by them before and how they easily grew fans during their debut era and then suddenly they’re in hiatus and the feeling of disbandment appears, many fans lost in hope waiting for them, it’s all bc of TS, it’s really sad and such a big waste of talents
@@bloodmajesty414 why is their company so bad?
@@Enriquezkika1617 From what I know TS is an abusive company - late payment (or no payment at all), slave contracts, BAP did marketing and paying for medical treatments out of their own pocket, not properly protecting BAP's security, dragging them out to perform when they literally collapsed from fatigue and stress (oxygen mask and all) - in conclusion TS is a truly shitty company. BAP consider SM as a better company than TS - that's something.
Im listening few of their songs but i never knew this,poor boys...i heard that they returned to their company,why did they return?
Of course the video had to start with Jimin
#queen
And of course it has to end with Jay Park.
Hana K I guess JYP has some problems hahah
@@claracapistrano9411 hahaha. Yea. And thanks to them especially Jay. JYP is getting better right now
cause it is *I C O N I C*
Can't even *meet* Blackpink!? that's so weird even though their under the same label. I don't get why boys and girls can't date or even interact with one a other without it being a scandal.
EDIT: I posted this comment BEFORE Jennie and Kai were confirmed dating after getting caught by Dispatch so y'all can stop asking.
I remember when 2NE1 said that they got no artist friend. Is it because that rule? It feels that way
@@fauziahnurizzati2424 2NE1 has a lot of friends outside the company. I think they were saying how nobody approached them bc they had this really strong vibe about them. Big Bang and 2NE1 members hanged out all the time. YG is hella weird.
YG gets the most criticism from netizens and scandals. YG ENT doesn't want that to happen again. So it is understandable and will keep their artist safe from possible career-ending scandals.
@@iesammt4173 but still they can't even SEE each other in the company the blackpink members are like covered from their managers
Cuz a lot of dumb ass netizens cant bear to hear that their biases are dating or even getting near anyone of thw opposite gender
For people who dream of being artists (as opposed to just being famous), I think you really need to think carefully before going the idol route. There are some who have made it work, but you really need to be a good match with the company you choose, so you can work within the system and still be able to express your creativity.
Yes yes agreeee
@Violet Dydrmr ikr
Procrastinating a reminder that artists don’t only stand for “idols.” You can be an artist outside of kpop and Korea ;)
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
*"JYP!" that's the best to start a video hahahaha*
BAP roasting their company is the joy for us babyz
That 1 dislike is from one of these companies 😂😂😂
4 now 😂
From JYP SM YG and Cube HAHAHA
42 from the companies and the loyal "employees "
@@michaengjenlisadoublebblic8534 yess hahahaha
LunaHas Love one dislike?😂😂
Jay is the biggest slap to the Kpop world JYP is triggered lol AOMG lets get it
I admire Jay Park for that but once I went to show in Paris and he performed like 30min because he was late and his first part who was another rapper performed 40 min I was so disappointed. And then I went to sm artist show Super Junior /Shinee/Smtown and they give you real amazing show for at least 3hours that is why also I prefer bigger companies because they will give you for your money. We can say what we want about big companies but at least they are serious.
Lilipu im so sorry for your experience. We dont know what happens in his life but he should be professional and shouldve gave u a better show
how is it the biggest slap to jyp lol? jay made mistakes and ran away from it. the company had no other choice but to remove him. I feel like no one really knows what happened back then really shows. jyp ent may not be innocent but neither is jay. stop trying to advertise his woke and all and kissing his ass
@@kayrelmagsayo8933 ran away ? Lol..do your research again girl.
@@cm-jw4rz but thats what he did lol? he literally left korea back to the us thinking that it would die down because he gone? i think i'm quite aware of what happened thank you very much
*_Poor Jimin. She needs to call out JYP more - she doesn’t deserve such disrespect_* 😭
Jyp doesnt even manage his company its the chairman just watch the jyp 2.0 video
She had got the album. If you don't know please shut up. You make JYP look cruel.
JYPE never did fine with JIMIN, GOT7, DAY6 (3RD GEN ) only that gg got all 😥😥
But she did finally had a comeback
@@noormahmuda4688 what? Got7 had Three comebacks last year, and Day6 had a comeback for month. And by the way Jimin had also a comeback soooo....
You have some stuff against your company”. Bobby and his American aaaas- “Yes!”
Jay Park is the man. Great to see him succeed with his own company, AOMG. Having the freedom to create and produce his own tracks brought out the real artist in him. Much respect!
*savage Kpop idols who spill the real tea are the best XD*
Jay park exposing how jypent use to be bc they only change during 3rd gen but back in second jyp was one of the worst in terms of how they treat there idols they where upu there with sm,yg and ts so much respect to jay park for showing how jyp wasn't always a good company in how they treat their idols
Nope jay park is just problematic like if you think both him and taecyeon are from US.He's just being a crybaby
@@okdude28 hey reveluv lets not begin about SM?
Thats slavery
@@anouar4664 i know right but atleast their idols have some freedom to do what they want
@@okdude28 bitch is you blind?
While twice can do anything and eat everything they want
Nct cant even laugh
Dont be so biased ffs
@@anouar4664 first don't be a dick and by freedom i fucking mean there allowed to date of course i know the shit with nct manger you feel I'm stupid you should really ask what you mean instead of calling me a bitch and i thought you where cool
i’m sorry but jimin in the beginning reminds me of the actress in she’s the man when she talk to the soccer teammates as sebastian 😂
Boi, that's was my moviee!!! I loved she's the man and ur right I always wondered who Jimin sounded like when she speaks English.
Jay Park seems to be critizing the whole k-pop system more than critizing JYP. He sounds too American to be passionate about being an idol.
Exactly what I was thinking. It seems to be more a culture clash than anything else. How his experience affected him wouldn't necessarily affect other idols or trainees the same way. Especially idols who have created their own niche in the industry - if they weren't passionate about their craft, they wouldn't have bothered. People like Taemin for example.
I was a hottest(2pm fan) and I still remember when Jay Park was cut from the group. He's such a good rapper that I believe (back then) that he could rival GDragon when it comes to rapping and singing. They did him really dirty that time. Not much explanations were given to the fans why he was cut even if he was the leader. I'm so happy now he's making music according to how he wants it.
I love Kpop and the entertainment companies come up with good groups and music but how they
are threat their idols? Nah. Controlling someone his/her private live is just
disgusting. All the companies are the same: it’s just about the money and satisfying
fans.
Linda but thats how they come up with good ideas... its put together with a fine tooth comb. its pure manufactured
Thank you for being reasonable, some ppl have to wake up about this
I saw the title and I thought this video needs to have BAP in it. I'm not disappointed 😂 thumbs up! There are so many moments of shade it deserves an entire video lol.
Hopefully by the end of next month they'll be all out of TS(hit) company and GET THE ATTENTION THEY DESERVE.
For the artists that were under these and got out it seems more like it's God's work that something came up to get them out. Because it's seems to me that they are doing so much better now that they are on there own. But I do still wonder about the other groups that are still under them.
And it makes me think of the people who trained for very long time and it perhaps it scarred many things in them and then fail and have nothing to pay their debts... 😭💔 That they might feel they have let down themselves and their families
FunSoSoToTo a lot is psychological...like tell sell you the idea of fame and fortune,,,then once you get in you go to this robot training school ...sometimes the trainers and managers scare them saying they can be replaced, etc....negative reinforcement scares you, you dont want to quit because shame....it is brain washing... and it takes strong will to stand up for yourswlf (talk back) or leave..
@@npcimknot958 yeeeees exactly 💔💔💔💔, and I still wonder how parents throw their kids into this ESPECIALLY if they are living well, probably they are escaping from another pressure...
I am not a SM stan, but they have every reason to believe they're the best. I'll give them that.
Most of their artist tends to succeed and make it big, just a matter of time. Not to mention, most of the group they made, despite losing some members, remained active for a very long time without disbanding (TVXQ, SJ, SNSD, Shinhwa, Shinee etc). Comparing among big 3, they have the most long-running groups. While soloist like Rain & Se7en left their company, SM still have BoA and Stephanie, active. Remember how people used to called exo a 'failed debut' compared to their sunbaes? Well, look at them NOW.
Yeah, because SM's outreach is the best in the country (along with YG). SM is basically one of the founders of modern produced K-pop; they have all the resources to perfectly train their idols with world class choreographers, vocal coaches, acting coaches. Even if they have a slow start like EXO or Red Velvet, they will eventually sky rocket in popularity because SM basically has it down to a formula. Not only is money important for a group's success, but politics plays a major role and Lee Sooman (even though he isn't the big CEO anymore) has a billion connections that will ensure the success of his company and employees. It's sad how much politics is involved in K-pop. I see so many extremely talented artists in the industry but because they come from a smaller company with little influence, they never become popular. Also, SM has a rule against disbanding.
SM does house the best artists in Kpop
Best visuals and vocals too
I'm sorry but they treat their artists like shitttt
They are good at training ,they are good at choosing and they are good at making good songs but management is shit, they are way too aggressive(Especially when an idol leaves or spill some tea) and controlling. Also, they really don't care about their older idols. I am really afraid of what will happen to Exo when they get old
@@exosproudmamabear558 what do you mean with "way too aggressive"?
SM never give a f*ck abt their image tho😂😂 (even if there are many artist leaves and spill some tea)
Ikr, idk either what will happen with exo. Hope they still love each other and make their own company, like SJ
I need a whole video of BAP shading TS
Chelsea Oduro "b.a.p dissing ---" that's the title
Jimin Park is so done with JYP😂😂
its not him who is guilty,korea banished him
@@catch_me_if_you_can6596 what? Banished Who?
@@catch_me_if_you_can6596 Lmao
@@catch_me_if_you_can6596
I'm not talking about Jay
@@smeraldo1377 jay park
I LOVVEED what jay said about how even tho they were getting recognized and becoming famous it didn’t feel fulfilling because it was just handed to them, this is why I love and appreciate self made made artists more even tho they’re the underrated ones bc they’re not from a big company
Jay Park deserves so much more recognition. Such an icon.
hy there now now, nobody should “die by oblivion.” End of day he is a human. He should have the opportunity to talk about what happened. Espesh when it’s still fucking him over.
He is the one biggest solo artist in korea... no everyone goes on music shows
An icon who made homophobic remarks towards Koreans yikes
hyewonnie an icon who made mistakes when he was 13-15 years old on MySpace. One who is now 30 and changed, reflected, and pondered on. He apologized, he was dumb and made a mistake. He was a foreigner in a foreign country and his friends were at home in America. I get both sides but think about it like this. Imagine if your things from when you first went on social media went public. Awkward right? Imagine people belittling you about a situation about it 10+ years later.
He’s an icon for being himself, by producing music, by having a successful record label and having a name even if JYPE is still trying to smush him in a way. He’s an icon bc he proves that he is human. I honesty look up to him.
hy there are you JYP? Istg a the comment u try so hard to talk shit abt jay lmao
I think one of the important points with Jay Park is that it wasn’t really his dream to begin with.
He was an American boy with the American mindset who from the beginning (like he said himself) wasn’t thinking about sticking around in 2pm for too long. Also he had somewhere to go back to.
There are so many other idols who not only grew up in Korea but also had the dream to become performers since they were little. People like Taemin, Taeyeon and GD went through the process of being an idol, disliking things along the way, (I mean Taeyeon hates Gee to this day lol) and when the time came they they were able to use that creativity.
Or look at Sunmi the music she makes now is amazing!!
My point is Jay Park is really inspiring and I admire him very much but although it’s true the Kpop industry has to change a lot still, he was a very specific case and not every other artist in Korea can be upheld to that.
We know idols aren’t robots, we know they aren’t perfect copies of each other, it just wasn’t an industry he fitted in at the time, so he chose to leave, other people chose to stay and endure.
Doesn’t mean one artist is better than the other or inferior, they are just different.
Exactly, he went in for very different reasons than others who started training at 14 like say....the SNSD girls.
B.A.P and BABYs dragging TS What I live for, They are so open about their Hate I love it 😂😂
In Jay Park's case tho, I think he just clashed with Korean Industry culture as a whole, not just JYP itself. He's very opinionated and has strong beliefs and ideals, and that goes against Asian dictator-like discipline. His pure musician ideals also go against Korean Entertainment as a whole, who basically uses their idols more as puppets instead of real musicians (at that time). JYPE at that time also made shittons of mistakes. I'm just glad JYP's upgraded now.
Girl they beat them kids when they didn't get it right. Let's call it what it is.
@@adweller6110 I have a feeling you’re not Asian....not saying it's right in any way but that's just how it is
It’s funny how bts Jungkook choose big hit ent just bcs he adore RM so much eventhough back then he was offered by SM and JYP and lot more big companies
I'm so glad he did
He wasn't offered by sm tho but it's ok good for him
He choose Bighit cuz he thought RM was cool and hence decided to join his company. 😂😂 Lmao I love this man. 😂😂❤️
@@enshir8501 Actually yes, he was, but he made an audition first so
@@mimimoo.k no he wasn't
The fact that mah boi Jaebum did that....Damn.....I have a huge RESPECT for him both as an ARTIST and an INTELLECTUAL
Damn the amount of times Heechul shades I love how he’s still part of SM 👏👏😂😂💕
And OML Jay Park. Bless his soul honestly done so well for him self. He’s just The embodiment of kpop freedom 👏🔥👏🔥👏
This is why I don't like it when people blame all the shit that goes on with the companies on the idols or even the fandoms. They don't want it to be like that and we don't either.
The first example that comes to my mind is how everyone seems to think SM artists behave like they're superior and SM stans think their idols are better than anyone else: no. SM think they're the kings of the industry, but their artists are actually really humble and kind and they themselves recognize SM's way of thinking isn't right. Same goes for the "your faves are flops and they haven't had a comeback in months" bullshit: maybe they don't enjoy being jobless either, maybe it's someone else's fault? And don't even get me started about people making fun of groups who lost one or more members: if you know nothing about idols mistreatment, don't talk.
These people did not risk their ass to expose their own companies just for you to blame it on them or their fans. Look up the info before you speak.
and look jay park now, worldwide famous
heechul, b.a.p and jay park kings i stan
Jay Park saying how it was training train to sing this way, train to damce this way, train to interact this way and slowly losing his passion and creativity. Now he's a free artist with a good company. Artist should be trained to boost their talents not stagnate them into something else.
Jay Park talking so openly about his experience is so raw like we see so many idols leaving companies and people are always like "He trained for so long, why did he leave" "Imagine if he debuted with THAT group" when training to be an idol is so hardcore you literally lose yourself in the process. Its sad. Thats why I admire idols esp those from the Big3 in particular because they go through so much shit and its such heavy competition to be chosen like props to you.
its so crazy that they get blocked from performing on music shows!! Are these companies afraid of these individuals success? if you're not, don't block!
i’m a simple person. i see idols shading their company, i click
BAP asking to switch to SM is the biggest plot twist in kpop industry
This is why I need LEE SOO MAN back as SM's CEO
True we want LEE SOO MAN back
Emm... Do you know that he still holds 20% of the company? Even when he was the CEO he did dirt. All kpop companies are shitty and that's the truth. Well, only Around Us it's good.
Yup we want lee soo man back..before jessica leave sm lee soo man not ceo of sm anymore..starting that time tiffany and jessica alway talk about hate sm..they mention it in a show
Audeladescieux lol lee soo man didnt do dirt. tss
@@yeonju588 AHAHAHA YOU don't know anything. Oooh do you need to be remembered what happened with TVXQ/DBSK and JYJ??? Or we can talk about how they treat their foreigner idols Lol, Plus as I said this man still holds 20% of the company xD (and do I need to talk about how they treat their idols now and before? They still do the same thing lmao)
SM IS one of the worst kpop company. (And I say it as I know how they work because I love their idols and their songs in general, F(x) - bless them - is one of my fav girls bands)
I really love to see companies being critisized
3:38 BAP talking shit about TS is always going to be iconic
sungjae’s not wrong about cube tho
My heart still hurts thinking about how much BAP suffered because of TS. The fact that most of them went into depression and Daehyun had drinking problems, ughhh. I just want to slap TS' CEO.
bbmld_ no the founder passed away not the ceo
I'm not suprised when B.A.P is right here. That TShit did them very dirty. That company is the worst company i've ever seen. Although i know some companies are worst but this is the worst one. It looks like that company is coming from hell. They didnt pay them at all for a very long time and then when they finally paying them they pay them late like wth? B.A.P are so talented , very talented. Not just in music but perfomances and choreography too. During their rookie era South Korea wont call them monster rookies for nothing. Thats what makes my heart break 😖💔
Jimin is us Blinks begging YG for Blackpink’s full album and comeback😂
2:48. True, finally in 2017 women in Saudi Arabia were allowed to get a driver's license and drive, but YG idols still cannot. How can that be right??
So they can't drive away and find a better company probably lmfao
"Can we go to your company"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'll admit that JYP still has A LOT of work to do, but compared to other companies tho... he's definitely the best in taking care of his idols, trainees, and staff. Anyways, B.A.P deserved better.
I must say Jay seriously.. with that rap lyrics.. he understand so well how diff their way seeing everything and how unfair back then.. the other politics, see me do the music.. I'm glad he is out and make his life and career success. Bless him.
I actually think it’s a good thing that idols speak out against their mistreatments, I think it helps us as fans to better understand what it’s like in their shoes.
this makes me so hurt...why so precious people have to suffer so much😭 i'm literally crying
Jay Park releasing diss tracks on jyp or dissing jyp a lil bit in his songs will always fucking be iconic.
I feel like the managers are gesturing wildly like NO NO ABORT DON’T LET THE FANS KNOW WE’LL ALL BE FIRED YOU FOOL from off camera
Sometimes I feel like many many companies misvalue their idols I mean look at Jay Park with freedom he was able to do many great things . I think companies need to gave idols this
Thank you for putting this video together and uploding it. 💛💚💜❤
I don't know if i have to say this but i need to admit that your intro song is so amazing😂😂 i am serious please do the full mashup
Hands down for Jay Park who believed in his dreams and is still believing in them, trying always to reach new goals and help other people 🧡🧡🧡🧡
Hearing that male idols from yg cant even meet blackpink is really frustrating, I mean just take a look at bigbang and 2ne1's relationship
Bobby was just smooth-talking his way to prevent trouble. Do you really believe iKON has never once met BLACKPINK? LOL let's be real here.
If Bobby said iKON and BLACKPINK are close friends or even just friends, not only will the second most vicious fandom in the Kpop world known as BLINKs will come for his head, his own fans will also boycott him.
It already happened before. Bobby was rumored (yes, just RUMORED) to be a dating a model and what did his fans do? Yep.
dude i suddenly have all uwus for jay park, best ceo ever 🤧
After watching the video I realised that Bighit really treat their Artist so nicely. Like, they give them their freedom to make their own music, write their lyrics, do whatever they wanted to. I can't even imagine a life over which I have no control over. Still go out everyday with a smile in face and meet people. It's really kill talent of those artists. Thank you Bang PDnim for taking such good care of our boys.
Now just wait until some people will come and say "You don't know happens off cam, Stop making look bighit a nice company etc
Ugh I love these. Some people can love a company too much and think I'm a hater when I criticise some agencies but I just want them to do better to their artists.
TS is the worst, really :( I want my BAP to debut again under a different company (let me dream)
People been saying YG make those rules because of the controversy from his past artists, but little did they know the more they try to suppress these kids, the more rebellious they will get. Restricting their freedom will not do any good. Not to mention in this industry where temptation is everywhere. Idk it reminds me of Disney. We all know how most of their child stars end up too. I would not get mad if the rules make sense, but most of it sounds ridiculous.
I died so hard when Jae tried to stop Jimin but she just wouldn't stop. Kevin what have you started
The first 2 guys really need to grow some balls. Let her speak her mind for god sake.
Knowing how many idols "complained" about their situation to their own agencies sometimes makes feel sorry for them (idols). It's frustrating. I feel like their freedoms, their rights, to be human have been taken away. Yet there's nothing they can do about it besides leaving the company or start over again. I'm still waiting for the day to come, when all the kpop idols speak up and never again normalize this kind of "system" that treats them like they're just some products which are owned by companies.
Ohhh, these juicy in sider's story's!!😂😂😍
Your profile name is so wonderfully diverse😂👍👍💜
When u can't choose one single group to stan.😂
@@moon.937 lol so true😂😊
LMFAOOOO jimin is literally my favorite savage idol I love her😭🤣
BAP even told the fans “never join TS company” at their fansign lmao
I still remember the video where JYP listened to GOT7's JB's self written songs for less than 5 seconds and rejected all of them.... I mean don't kill the talent dude!!!
Only Jay Park could make a story about a trainee getting his ass beat for making a mistake dancing sound funny.
Wow I wish Jay Park would open up like that part at the end in more Interviews. I have soooo many questions for him
And the fact that some "kpoppies" think so highly of SM makes me laugh. Come on, don't forget what they did to Jessica. That sh*t company can't even protect their own idols!
And the fact that they basically mistreat their foreign idols cannot be ignored.
For anyone who dreams about being a celebrity or an idol, I advise you to *think about it carefully.* Celebrities don't live *their* own lives-their lives are *managed by their companies* and *dictated by their contracts.* The world of fame isn't everything that T.V. makes it out to be, and the idols you all look up and aspire to be like all endure the darker side that no one sees on media. Let's also take into account that we really need to stop berating and criticizing those who are involved in scandals and controversies, because at the end of they day, they're only humans after all.
I'm watching from 2020, just some days after Jinhwan and Junhoe got into an accident and I am so mad at YG at 2:41, obtaining driver's license is prohibited but YG had a drunk driver drive for Jinhwan and Junhoe? It's so disappointing :((
You should definitely make more videos on this topic. Looking at the comments, you've got a lot of resources here already
Jay park damn .....he went straight 😁💓✊✊✊
Park Jaebum! Our "leadja".. Nothing but love for you. From a Hottest ❤😊
Here's the thing, I put my phone near my ear on Jay Parks part and istg.. it sounded like I was on a call with him so he could put me to sleep with that smooth voice 💖
the fact that they can't even get a drivers license or date, it's ridiculous, those are basic human rights