@@mike1225917 So many excuses for him. We making none for MJ Better career and accomplished more in a short amount of time. 22 season and 4 rings. Why are you still playing? Take your mill to billion and your 4 rings, Longevity plaque and S.A.O.D. Award and retire. (Standing Around On Defense)
HOW CAN LEBRON HAVE A BETTER CARRIER, PLAYING FOR 21 YEARS WITH 3 GIVEN RINGS AND A FAKE MICKEY MOUSE TROPHY WITH MULTIPLE SUPERSTARS HELP.... HIS STATS IS ONLY BECAUSE OF HIS LONGEVITY, NOT BECAUSE HE'S THAT GREAT.
Chi town basketball is second to none….look at all the pro players…..many bigs…..duke boys, etc……chi town players…you know they are coming with their hard hats on….tough
Maywood is the most slept-on and renowned basketball mecca in the history of American basketball. It's a small village about 10 miles outside of the Westaide of Chicago but has produced NBA talent like currently Jevon Carter, HOF'er Mike Finley, Lakers Champion Shannon Brown, his brother Sterling Brown, Dee Brown, Steve Hunter, Donnie Boyce and of course, NBA head coach Doc Rivers, and is home of the the legendary highschool Proviso East. Somebody really needs to do a 30 for 30 on Maywood, my family knows Doc. Let me know how I can get in contact with him...
I think we should stop asking who the best player is in a team sport. No matter who you're talking about they had help. It takes five players at a time to play the game and one player does not score every point! So if you score 50 and your final score was 110 your teammates scored those other 60 points! So being the best player or having the most talent means nothing if you don't have a team around you to make you successful...We need to start asking who's the best teammate! Who do others want to play with. Who creates a winning atmosphere! Who is unselfish and puts the team ahead of himself...I'm sorry but if you only think of yourself and how many points you score ()Gilbert) I don't want you on my team! Do they make their team better! Are they a winner? I hear all this talk about how great this or that guy were but they never won! Or came close to winning! I'd rather be a role player on a championship team then a star watching the finals from home every year! Barkley bus driver crap! Who's career would you rather have...serious question...Barkley or Draymond....really....I know Barkley had the better stats and most would say he's the better player basketball skills wise but Draymond contributes to winning basketball...Barkley a beast...1 MVP. All Star. Great rebounder! He made one final and lost....Draymond....1 DPOY 4 championships with 6 trips to the finals....I know I'm one of one but give me Draymond's career in a heartbeat....so I ask again what difference does it make who's the best player in a team game?
I hate when people say LeBron has a better career than Jordan.. how? Jordan beats LeBron in overall stats, every major analytical metric, and has more accolades and awards. Like, Jordan has more championships, more MVPs, more FMVPs, more all defensive teams, DPOY, more stat leader titles, etc. The only thing LeBron has on Jordan is total career numbers. So someone explain to me how LeBron has a better career, *without mentioning total career numbers* , cause that's about the only thing LeBron has on Jordan.
I'm glad you said that doc when Pippen fans praise Pippen the Jordan fanboys get offended and they throw shade at the great Scottie Pippen it's like they are not sure about Jordan greatness
Most self-proclaimed Pippen fans aren't genuine fans of him. They just use him as a shield to antagonize Michael Jordan. If they could praise Pippen without taking shots at MJ, everything would be fine. But that would require you guys to be actual fans-and we know you're not. So...
Actually I'm so sure about Jordan's greatness I'm constantly in awe of how the Bulls accomplished not one but two threepeats with Pippen as the 2nd on the team. Pippen was great, but especially in the first threepeat he was very raw, and the team was far from stacked, and there's no way they should've won 3 straight. Jordan was unbelievable.
Is it better to be LOVED or FEARED because fear lasts longer than love… The FEAR factor is lost in the generational translation; in life and in sports; today, very little of a FEAR factor exists in professional sports. Another generational abnormally is the always popular argument, of who is the G.O.A.T, with each generation picking their own champion. If the selection is between MJ and LeBron, in the most important categories MJ wins; mentally, fundamentally, physically, statistically and was as feared as Mike Tyson, during his time. What always seems to amaze me is all the other generational champions that get left out of the conversation. At the top of the list is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, followed by Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan, and many, many others. A suggestion would be to focus on each decade and/or generational player(s) vs. naming a G.O.A.T: NBA- Best by Decade: George Mikan - Late 1940s and 1950s. Bill Russell/Wilt Chamberlain - 1960s Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 1970s Magic Johnson - 1980s Michael Jordan - 1990s Tim Duncan/Kobe Bryant- 2000s LeBron James - 2010s Giannis Antetokounmpo - 2020s so far
I don't like how the younger generation don't challenge Doc Rivers about the GOAT topic because it's not a landslide like most former basketball players think because i damn sure have LeBron over Mj , i think older players are just bias as fuck when it comes to Jordan.
Challenge him for what???? Lebron hasn't done anything in his entire 21 year career better than M.J period and that's a fact NOT MY OPINION. Lebron does win the longevity contest which doesn't mean shit especially if he's not the best player in the league let alone the world HE literally has lead the league in scoring 1 time his entire career. As a matter of fact THE LITERAL MEANING OF GOAT IS GREATEST OF ALL TIME AND HE HASNT EVEN BEEN THE GREATEST IN THE LEAGUE FOR DAMN NEAR HIS ENTIRE CAREER. MJ hold the most league records in history of the sport he's ranked number 1 So plz tell me HOW IN TF DO U EVEN MAKE IT MAKE SENSE IN YOUR MIND BRO?
@@loumedicnobody even wear lebrons why even bring that up 😂😂 & you must’ve forgot top 75 intros who got the standing ovation in Cleveland sound to me like Cleveland fans got more love & respect for MJ then the dude that’s from there & played there 1 chip in 11 years over 1000 trades each season & still lost . MJ can’t say that 🤡😂
@@2rawww4tvkd MJ didn’t need 1000 trades if you have Pre-Lebron at the SF position and greatest rebounder to have ever lived at the 4. I heard the ovation. The NBA learned that from Vince McMahon and how he perfectly pipe in cheer noise 😂 😂
@@loumedic yea you clearly don’t know shii about basketball or just tryna troll bc the non sense you saying is bs MJ is the goat you talking about 2 players that couldn’t lead a team to shit as #1 options all lebron ever won with was #1 options from other teams MJ stood on business & made his team great lebron couldn’t do that
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MJ is the GOAT
I could listen to old NBA players tell stories all day
Glad to hear Kareem's name, but I'm always disappointed Bill Russell isn't mentioned in these conversations.
Jordan is the GOAT
Lebron is good but 6 loses in the biggest stage with superteam remove him from the goat conversation automatically the goat has to be a winner
True. MJ 23 number means 2- 3peat Championship= 6 rings
@@JoseIrizarry-k7g Bill Russell is dead
Much love to Doc and Maywood! GreT conversation!
Doc isnt playing around, listen to him. MJ is the best player to ever exist, its just the truth.
Jordan had a better career than Lebron. WAY more trophies of all sorts.
And no finals meltdown like LBJ
@@mike1225917 So many excuses for him. We making none for MJ Better career and accomplished more in a short amount of time. 22 season and 4 rings. Why are you still playing? Take your mill to billion and your 4 rings, Longevity plaque and S.A.O.D. Award and retire. (Standing Around On Defense)
HOW CAN LEBRON HAVE A BETTER CARRIER, PLAYING FOR 21 YEARS WITH 3 GIVEN RINGS AND A FAKE MICKEY MOUSE TROPHY WITH MULTIPLE SUPERSTARS HELP.... HIS STATS IS ONLY BECAUSE OF HIS LONGEVITY, NOT BECAUSE HE'S THAT GREAT.
You sound stupid
Chi town basketball is second to none….look at all the pro players…..many bigs…..duke boys, etc……chi town players…you know they are coming with their hard hats on….tough
Thanks for admitting that I'm right you're not a bad guy after all and you may know a little bit about basketball 🏀🏀🏀
Maywood is the most slept-on and renowned basketball mecca in the history of American basketball. It's a small village about 10 miles outside of the Westaide of Chicago but has produced NBA talent like currently Jevon Carter, HOF'er Mike Finley, Lakers Champion Shannon Brown, his brother Sterling Brown, Dee Brown, Steve Hunter, Donnie Boyce and of course, NBA head coach Doc Rivers, and is home of the the legendary highschool Proviso East. Somebody really needs to do a 30 for 30 on Maywood, my family knows Doc. Let me know how I can get in contact with him...
What are you talking about, no one made it to the league from Maywood, you’re probably old anyway, where is Maywood
Michael Jordan ERA vs LeBron ERA - TOP Hard Fouls vs TOP HARD Flops (reaction)
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LeBron was young too, like Kobe, KG, Jermaine O’Neal etc.
What in LeBron's career has game never evolved he's a terrible player he's not even the top 50 so I wish people would just quit talking about him
Larry-the GOAT
"Nation Time" was the call to nationalism from Jesse Jackson.
I think we should stop asking who the best player is in a team sport. No matter who you're talking about they had help. It takes five players at a time to play the game and one player does not score every point! So if you score 50 and your final score was 110 your teammates scored those other 60 points! So being the best player or having the most talent means nothing if you don't have a team around you to make you successful...We need to start asking who's the best teammate! Who do others want to play with. Who creates a winning atmosphere! Who is unselfish and puts the team ahead of himself...I'm sorry but if you only think of yourself and how many points you score ()Gilbert) I don't want you on my team! Do they make their team better! Are they a winner? I hear all this talk about how great this or that guy were but they never won! Or came close to winning! I'd rather be a role player on a championship team then a star watching the finals from home every year!
Barkley bus driver crap! Who's career would you rather have...serious question...Barkley or Draymond....really....I know Barkley had the better stats and most would say he's the better player basketball skills wise but Draymond contributes to winning basketball...Barkley a beast...1 MVP. All Star. Great rebounder! He made one final and lost....Draymond....1 DPOY 4 championships with 6 trips to the finals....I know I'm one of one but give me Draymond's career in a heartbeat....so I ask again what difference does it make who's the best player in a team game?
I hate when people say LeBron has a better career than Jordan.. how? Jordan beats LeBron in overall stats, every major analytical metric, and has more accolades and awards. Like, Jordan has more championships, more MVPs, more FMVPs, more all defensive teams, DPOY, more stat leader titles, etc.
The only thing LeBron has on Jordan is total career numbers. So someone explain to me how LeBron has a better career, *without mentioning total career numbers* , cause that's about the only thing LeBron has on Jordan.
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Why you discuss the Goat?
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I'm glad you said that doc when Pippen fans praise Pippen the Jordan fanboys get offended and they throw shade at the great Scottie Pippen it's like they are not sure about Jordan greatness
Most self-proclaimed Pippen fans aren't genuine fans of him. They just use him as a shield to antagonize Michael Jordan. If they could praise Pippen without taking shots at MJ, everything would be fine. But that would require you guys to be actual fans-and we know you're not. So...
Actually I'm so sure about Jordan's greatness I'm constantly in awe of how the Bulls accomplished not one but two threepeats with Pippen as the 2nd on the team. Pippen was great, but especially in the first threepeat he was very raw, and the team was far from stacked, and there's no way they should've won 3 straight. Jordan was unbelievable.
@SmilingDolphins-ye4zm your boyfriend bron is not the goat not even top 5.
Is it better to be LOVED or FEARED because fear lasts longer than love…
The FEAR factor is lost in the generational translation; in life and in sports; today, very little of a FEAR factor exists in professional sports.
Another generational abnormally is the always popular argument, of who is the G.O.A.T, with each generation picking their own champion.
If the selection is between MJ and LeBron, in the most important categories MJ wins; mentally, fundamentally, physically, statistically and was as feared as Mike Tyson, during his time.
What always seems to amaze me is all the other generational champions that get left out of the conversation.
At the top of the list is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, followed by Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan, and many, many others.
A suggestion would be to focus on each decade and/or generational player(s) vs. naming a G.O.A.T:
NBA- Best by Decade:
George Mikan - Late 1940s and 1950s.
Bill Russell/Wilt Chamberlain - 1960s
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 1970s
Magic Johnson - 1980s
Michael Jordan - 1990s
Tim Duncan/Kobe Bryant- 2000s
LeBron James - 2010s
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 2020s so far
Jokic for the 2020s so far
Curry whipped on LeBron tim Duncan did and so did Dirk… ole false media narratives
I'm not a LeBron guy or fan give me Pippen and I'll beat both of them fanboy no Pippen no rings for Mike Jordan
There's one player that sticks out in every generation. There's know one overall player that can just be the best.
People keep failing to look at the whole picture and only point out the stats they want. There’s no goat lmao.
The facts prove no Pippen no rings fanboy before Pippen Jordan never got out of the first round
@SmilingDolphins-ye4zm your boyfriend bron is not the goat not even top 5.
Thanks for taking the mask off just like I said. 😂
I don't like how the younger generation don't challenge Doc Rivers about the GOAT topic because it's not a landslide like most former basketball players think because i damn sure have LeBron over Mj , i think older players are just bias as fuck when it comes to Jordan.
well you are wrong, Mj is the GOAT isnt even close
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Bro it's not even close, did you even get to see MJ play? or are you saying that just from what you have seen on TH-cam?
Challenge him for what???? Lebron hasn't done anything in his entire 21 year career better than M.J period and that's a fact NOT MY OPINION. Lebron does win the longevity contest which doesn't mean shit especially if he's not the best player in the league let alone the world HE literally has lead the league in scoring 1 time his entire career.
As a matter of fact THE LITERAL MEANING OF GOAT IS GREATEST OF ALL TIME AND HE HASNT EVEN BEEN THE GREATEST IN THE LEAGUE FOR DAMN NEAR HIS ENTIRE CAREER.
MJ hold the most league records in history of the sport he's ranked number 1
So plz tell me HOW IN TF DO U EVEN MAKE IT MAKE SENSE IN YOUR MIND BRO?
Lebron would’ve been a HOF if he didn’t get better from his rookie season. Glenn is cap. Lebron is the GOAT and its not even close.
Your right it’s not close bc it’s not a real debate😂 MJ clearly the greatest player to touch the nba
@@2rawww4tvkd Naw you more right than I am. MJ is the GOAT shoe salesman only 2nd to Al Bundy in Chicago. Lebron cant say that 😂
@@loumedicnobody even wear lebrons why even bring that up 😂😂 & you must’ve forgot top 75 intros who got the standing ovation in Cleveland sound to me like Cleveland fans got more love & respect for MJ then the dude that’s from there & played there 1 chip in 11 years over 1000 trades each season & still lost . MJ can’t say that 🤡😂
@@2rawww4tvkd MJ didn’t need 1000 trades if you have Pre-Lebron at the SF position and greatest rebounder to have ever lived at the 4. I heard the ovation. The NBA learned that from Vince McMahon and how he perfectly pipe in cheer noise 😂 😂
@@loumedic yea you clearly don’t know shii about basketball or just tryna troll bc the non sense you saying is bs MJ is the goat you talking about 2 players that couldn’t lead a team to shit as #1 options all lebron ever won with was #1 options from other teams MJ stood on business & made his team great lebron couldn’t do that
MJ is the GOAT