"The whole audience acclaimed him through standing ovations five times; there were handkerchiefs in the air, hats, raised hands, so that Beethoven, who could not hear the applause, could at least see the ovation gestures." - Wikipedia
@LaMortEtLamour Britain still has a monarchy. Would you regard them as feudal? I have two degrees in history, I am confident in my response. Monarchy does not equal feudalism.
@LaMortEtLamour What is wrong with you? Spitting out so many insults...they merely stated the fact that Germany was not feudal at this time anymore. An emperor has nothing to do with that. Feudalism ended, as they said, centuries before this. You can't just make up your own definition of feudalism.
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"[Michael Umlauf, the theatre's Kapellmeister and director of this performance] had watched as the composer's attempt to conduct a dress rehearsal of his opera Fidelio ended in disaster. So this time, he instructed the singers and musicians to ignore the almost completely deaf Beethoven. /.../ Based on the testimony of the participants, there are suggestions that it was under-rehearsed (there were only two full rehearsals) and rather scrappy in execution." "Beethoven himself conducted, that is, he stood in front of a conductor's stand and threw himself back and forth like a madman. At one moment he stretched to his full height, at the next he crouched down to the floor, he flailed about with his hands and feet as though he wanted to play all the instruments and sing all the chorus parts. -The actual direction was in Duport's hands; we musicians followed his baton only." --Joseph Böhm, violinist "When the audience applauded /.../ Beethoven was several bars off and still conducting. Because of that, the contralto Caroline Unger walked over and turned Beethoven around to accept the audience's cheers and applause."
If a Time Machine is ever invented I would pay any costs and go back in time to see and hear the first performance of this masterpiece with him in concert.
@@abcdefgh6121 beethoven had perfect pitch! So in his head he could hear the right notes all the time. But it was far from easy. Beethoven suffered but turned his weakness into a strength
100 years from now, when all the Britneys and Biebers and Kanyes of the world are long forgotten, this piece of music will remain, and ring out above them all.
The greatest applause ever. The Austrian police had to step in because Beethoven's 9th received more of it than for the imperial couple. There are thousands of princes, but there is just one BEETHOVEN!
I don't mean to be haughty, but oh what a privilege it is to be a native German speaker and be able to sing with the chorus and understand every note of it, until the end!
Think about it, we get to hear Beethoven while they never got to hear Bohemian Rhapsody, clap in theaters to Avengers Endgame, or experience a lot of the other cultural landmarks to grace our 20th and 21st century, in hindsight people will think these were real privileges as well.
Ed Harris played this role the right way, he couldn’t hear much with prosthetic ears, he was almost in silence throughout the filming of this movie. He wanted to be authentic about Beethoven. It was brilliantly portrayed. Bravo Beethoven!!!!!
well, although there wasn't a precise moment when music was invented, i would argue that the development of musicality by different men at the dawn of mankind would be the greatest 'moment' in the history of music
And this man was totally deaf when he composed the 9th Symphony! This certainly doesn't rank among the best movies ever made about Beethoven, but I think the actor playing him certainly showed the depth of his almost maniacal passion for the music! I don't know why he needed someone to help him conduct. The music was playing in his head!
Because he was playing it at the pace his head went, and orchestras can get thrown off from the mind's metronome, which is why the conductor is needed at all.
Historicly he messed up so bad when he has no help at all. The symphony was a mess because he cann't hear. That's why he accepted help. I cann't remember all of it accurately so take this with a grain of salt.
This is my miracle… how he could see this music, just perfection. This music in the movie is top notch, in the pieces original debut his timing was too fast
he wasn't really deaf until the last decade of his life, he started learning conducting at the age of 22 or 21 (not sure), and after losing his hearing ability he gave up preforming in front of an audience but still conducting some somphonys.
There are giants, there are even Titans... but above all stand Bach, Mozart and Beethoven. I could never state for certain who was the best... but I do know that the 9th Symphony is the greatest masterpiece ever conceived by our species. It is just by definition, perfect.
Yea I completely understand, I can't make up my mind on whether I'd rather listen to Dies Irae all day or this 9th symphony. So I just listen to both hehe
you clearly don't know much about this music, symphone n09 was great, but it's not the greatest master piece of beethoven, in my case i prefer toccata and fuge from bach, paino concerto n°2 from rachmaninov, symphone n°6 from tchaikovsky, and ofcourse symphone n°5 and n°7 from beethoven.
calavera Step 1: Volta para a escola Step 2: Ouve 500 sinfonias Step 3: Já que estas na escola aprende a escrever Step 4: Aproveita o ambiente de ensino para chegares a conclusão que classificar musica é mais complicado do que escrever ao nivel da terceira classe.
As a young man, Beethoven had an audience before Mozart. He performed a piece Mozart had given him. After, Mozart said, "This man will make great sound heard by all the world."
At this point in his life everyone viewed Beethovan as a washed up has been, whose glory days were behind him, and yet he proved them all wrong, and with one symphony showed everyone that he still had the gift that made him a legend
not entirely true there was about a 12 year period were he produced verry little music, but he wrote his opera, the hammerklavier(although it wasn't too popular), and the missa solemnis before wiritng this
Thousands attended Beethoven's funeral, while Mozart was buried in a commoner's grave. Although the times were different, it also goes to show the universal reach and impact of Beethoven
I know very well that this is fiction, but this condensed version of the 9th is so overwhelmingly amazing that it leaves me shivering and with a feeling of exhilaration that I can't contain.
Very well said. I recently attended a performance of the 9th in London for the first time and belive I was the first to come to my feet in the audience with applause as so happy to hear it in person.
The whole movie is constructed around this scene. The build-up to the Ode of Joy (the faces of anticipation in the choir members, the acting of Harris and Kruger) is perfect. The whole scene is expertly directed. A beauty to watch. The face of the redhead singer at 06:50 giving it all and enjoying every second of it is fantastic!
I bought my first record at age 12. It was Beethoven's 3rd, the Eroica. I thought this man was the god of music with his alternating boldness with delicacy. I visited his home in Bonn, Germany, where his various horn hearing aids are still on display. Such extraordinary brilliance from a deaf man at that.
it's especially difficult to imagine that, given the fact that us humans of the 21st century can hear this song, and any other, over and over again thanks to technology. But at the time, once you heard it that was it, unless you booked a seat in another performance, or were extremely rich, and able to afford an orchestra for your pleasure
Hearing is just the beginning. This music absorbs you into its soft warmth, melts you down into its smooth depth, stands you erect with its thrashing power, and explodes with you across the stars.
“ now music changes forever” I concur. Mr. Beethoven, you are a God amongst mortals. As soon as you were born in December 1770, “Now Humanity changes forever “ R.I.P. Mr. Beethoven....
Few days ago I saw this scene in my art class.. Professor gave us chance to watch this movie clip at the beginning of the class...Though it was a short clip, I was really moved....almost crying during the class... How can we say that Beethoven was deaf....?? He could not hear Human's sound but i think he probably could hear the God's sound... I'm 22 yrs old and people around my age usually do not like classic music.. but I think there should be huge difference between people who only listen pop music (I don't know who are popular in western countries) and people who can enjoy Beethoven...Anyway I'm so thankful that I can hear this wonderful, touching music ... Thank you for uploading!
Funeral oration by Franz Grillparzer: "We who stand here at the grave of the deceased are in a sense the representatives of an entire nation, the whole German people, come to mourn the passing of one celebrated half of that which remained to us from the vanished brilliance of the fatherland. The hero of poetry in the German language and tongue still lives -- and long may he live. But the last master of resounding song, the gracious mouth by which music spoke, the man who inherited and increased the immortal fame of Handel and Bach, of Haydn and Mozart, has ceased to be; and we stand weeping over the broken strings of an instrument now stilled".
I know that this movie wasn't well received, and I admit it wasn't great. That being said, this particular scene is EXTREMELY well done, it's moving and furthermore it's grounded in what actually happened at the 9th premier. He actually did have someone help conduct (although it was a man, named Michael Umlauf), and someone did have to turn him around to see the crowd applauding, it was one of the female choir singers who gave screamed at Beethoven during rehearsals (not saying he didn't deserve it, Beethoven was very difficult to work along side of).Also, I appreciated the camera shaking during the unbelievably hectic prestissimo finale, it was a nice appropriate touch.
This scene wasn't actually grounded in what actually happened. He was not conducting at all. Most of the plot of this movie including this scene were complete fallacies.
@@brendank5413 I don't care about that....this scene was beautifully done with the two main actors "conducting" an orchestra....they had to learn how to actually conduct for the movie...and yes, no one sat in the orchestra pit to help him but one of the sopranos did go up and turn him around towards the audience so he could see them cheering and clapping!
He did not conduct as he obviously could not. Either at various points or only at the finale (not clear from the accounts) he came onto stage and "helped" the conductor, Michael Umlauf, to indicate expression or tempo to the orchestra. His role was more like what the fictional Anna Holz character does here. The orchestra had been told to ignore him. He was on stage when the piece finished and the alto Caroline Unger, turned him to the audience so he could see their applause.
God this scene is so powerful. It really gives insight to just how amazing and life changing Beethoven's music was to people at the time and even now. Simply speechless.
This to me is such a beautiful piece that embodies the spirit of a true musician. Beethoven, who for most of his life was dedicated to making music, struck with an affliction that prevented him from ever enjoying his own work. Most people would understandably fall into despair, but not him. He made an Ode to Joy as his final creation. Beautiful.
“Now music changes for ever”.. And yet there were those who thought He lost his mind adding a choir to a symphony.. Reminds me of a line in The Imitation Game.. "Sometimes it is the people no one imagines anything of, who do the things no one can imagine”..
Para mi la novena sinfonia de Beethoven es la mejor jamas creada, y el mayor canto a la libertad del ser humano. Como el dijo al principio de la escena "ahora la musica cambiara para siempre"....y cambio. Nadie habia incorporado musica coral en una sinfonia del modo en que el lo hizo. En la ultima parte, el tempo, el frenesi al dirigir....la camara tiembla, como si aquella musica fuese capaz de hacer temblar la tierra...es un toque sencillamente genial. Bach fue el padre de la musica tal y como la conocemos, Mozart uno de los mas grandes compositores, y Beethoven el que rompio las reglas establecidas y que dio un giro radical a la musica. Para mi hay claramente un antes y un despues de Beethoven...
Beethoven's 9th symphony stands the test of time and for good reason. I know the chills this piece of music always gives me but I love seeing how all the people react to hearing it for the first time in this powerful scene. They are simply in awe, and at times heart broken. Practically all the emotions we feel summed up in one piece of music.
hannah sauceda Listen to the first movement at about 10th minute in most performances, when the Gates open and everything breaks loose. Unparalleled. Its like a fine summer day when something goes wrong and hell breaks loose.
No me deja de sorprender y emocionar el pensar que cuando Beethoven comenzó a escribir esta obra ya estaba sordo y nunca pudo oirla, nisiquiera pudo escuchar los aplausos de la gente cuando la estrenó en público, todo lo que nosotros escuchamos y disfrutamos él lo hizo en su mente, con cada una de las notas. Un genio!
yes, that the thing most astonishing, create it and the playing in your mind!! The final scene shows it perfectly, the power of the music was sounded in his head, making his world mind trambles of its power!
I've always asked people if they could go back to any concert by anybody who would it be. My one was Elvis early 70s, but now I've heard this, I'm not sure. Can you imagine being in the audience for the first playing of this.
13:13 Kurt Cobain travelled back in time and, after hearing this, he wasn't able to live knowing he never would make such wonderful music like Beethoven did.
Beethoven would have said, "look dude, I lived to 56 and made great music the last decade of my life, put down that damn shotgun and see what you can do."
I think the 9th was the greatest musical composure ever, it never fails to amaze me, to take me where nothing else could. thank you Ludwig van Beethoven.
This is actually a hymn and there's only one way a deaf man could have composed such an complex, ethereal symphony like this. Looks like an awesome movie.
I am always moved to tears about this scene. Before I watched the film, I was hoping they would get this right (at least right as we've heard by tradition) and see the Master turn around to see the audience in sheer delight. For it's told even the great Ludwig van B was concerned that this piece would be too much for people to digest, but he was magnificently wrong! Even though he was nearly 100% deaf, surely he could have felt the vibration in the room, but most likely was caught up in the moment. I wish I would have been here then! It's so spiritual.
I can never make it through this song without weeping
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como ejercicio cinematográfico es MAGISTRAL. Si se pudiese filmar la emoción de todos los asistentes al estreno de la 9ª, sería así. Los planos, la ejecución, la mirada del público. Como Beethoven le ha trasmitido a ella su obra, para que ella se la trasmita a él para poder dirigir pese a su sordera. Y ese final donde Beethoven no sabe si su obra ha gustado o no, por estar de espaldas y ser sordo. Esto es cine, saber manejar tus emociones. Recomiendo a todos ver esta película
Arturo, not that you far from a major point about the pinnacle of achievement in music, but please do listen to Handel's Messiah, final movement: Worthy is the Lamb. I am a composer. I've studied both the 9th and the Messiah for all their intricacies. Both are equals, no question about that. Please turn up your speakers (or, better yet, put on headphones), turn out the lights, lay back in bed, and let the end of the Messiah - Worthy is the Lamb - transport you. You will see that you end up in the very same heavenly spot as you do with the 9th. Peace, brother.
THIS SYMPHONY SHOULD BE PLAYED ALL OVER THE WORLD. BRING ALL MAN KIND TOGETHER, THIS IS GOD SPEAKING. TO US TO UNITE.BEAUTIFUL MUSIC GOES RIGHT TO THE HEART. I LISTEN TO THIS EVERY DAY 365 DAY'S A YEAR.
En un rincón de Mendoza, Argentina un corazón de 71 años se estruja de emoción. Gracias a quién rescató ese sentimiento. Ojalá alguno de mis nietos lo puedan sentir❤
With different musical pieces I can go along one onto the next. Beethoven's Choral Symphony is so overwhelming, it commands me a prolonged deep silence afterwards.
Bravo, maestro. My friends always laugh at me because every single moment i hear this piece I cry like a baby, i cant avoid it, its so beautiful and sublim everything, has every emotions that anyone would like to have, but like Kurt used to say "they laugh at me because Im different, I laugh at them cause they're all equal" I love Beethoven and I would never regret the tattoo of his sign in my arm.
Amazing amazing amazing ❤❤❤ I cried the whole time 😭😭 Thank you God for sending these gifted shining lights to this world🙏 Thanks for uploading this video 🙏
Beethoven did not need help to direct his music. doesn't matter that he was deaf. and he wasn't completely deaf, he could hear some of the music. and he was one of the greatest genius in human history. he would have directed the music if he was blind as well.
+William .Thorén if you only hear music in your head without external acoustics, you speed up.. this also accounts for the dubious or even impossible metronome indications in some of his later works..
That's not true. This event did happen. He had help here just like the movie showed but it was a man. And he was completely deaf Edit: i meant he was completely deaf here
Ed Harris is.....what word is enough to express the depth and breadth of his art, his talent?? The uncertainty he expresses in his face after dropping his arms, the utter joy in his eyes as he turns and gestures for the orchestra to stand....truly remarkable, true genius!
Wow....what a clip. I love how the editing coincides with the climax towards the end. Between this and Gary Oldman's version, I'd be happy to watch both one after the other, and in no particular order....
I am furious. Why wasn’t this film recognised for the great work that it is?! My wife and I have just finished watching it, completely drained and exhilarated all at the same time. Bravo!!
Many reasons. For example, it was inaccurate. I don't know if you understand some of actually conducting, but this scene is completely ridiculous. Lots of mistakes that in actually music doesn't happen
It is absolutely orgasmic, this symphony is a mixture of all emotions, you feel that explode in a great orgasm in the height and makes you want to mourn, I've heard a million times and always feel the same.
This is without a shadow of a doubt one of the if not the most uplifting, sensual, beautiful haunting, sad and triumphant scenes I’ve seen in film. While it barely treads water against the powerhouse of Oldmans performance, for me this defines everything that cinema should be. The voice to the human soul and a reflection of all that is humanity in its naked glory.
Beethoven composed the Ninth Symphony when he was already completely deaf. How can a normal human do this? This Composer had a Divine Intervention that inspired him to write these MAJESTIC pieces for us, "common humans", so we could listen and to enjoy them until the earth is gone.
If I were alive in Beethoven's time and heard this symphony, I would give him the award for the best musician in history, you deserve it, my son, I cried from the greatness of the symphony
Supongo que tiene la potencia de disparar cosas en el subconsciente que el consciente no puede contener. Quizás sean traumas, quizás sólo sea belleza. Lo cierto es que es incómodo en ciertas ocasiones el no poder evitarlo.
Es lo que provoca el arte, esas emociones inexplicables que sólo lo bello mueve dentro del ser humano... Soy pintora y esto es lo que debe causar las bellas artes, la música, la pintura, el ballet ¿alguna vez has visto la puesta del el lago de los cisnes en la isleta de Chapultepec? Te mueve las fibras más internas, escuchar la música y danza juntas es bellísimo. En general el buen arte debe causar lo que dices eso y más!
De alguna forma, estos compositors (Mozart, Handle, Beethoven, Bach...) tenian una coneccion directa con Dios y recibian disctado de El, pero desafortunadamente, esta coneccion fue suspendida por Dios. Ahora, solo tenemos basura de musica.
This is the most moving composition ever. It reminds me of the near future in the paradise earth when a Great Crowd from every tribe, nation, people and tongue are united in praise of our Creator.
For those who want to see/ hear the entire 9th symphony in total find BBC Proms from 2006 with The East/West Orchestra led by Daniel Barenboim. It’s beyond amazing.
“To play a wrong note is insignificant; to play without passion is inexcusable.”
― Ludwig van Beethoven
Wow
Well said young man.
I LOVE that!!
To play a wrong note is insignificant because we can call it Jazz
plya withyour soul
"The whole audience acclaimed him through standing ovations five times; there were handkerchiefs in the air, hats, raised hands, so that Beethoven, who could not hear the applause, could at least see the ovation gestures." - Wikipedia
@LaMortEtLamour Germany had moved past feudalism centuries before Beethoven.
@LaMortEtLamour Britain still has a monarchy. Would you regard them as feudal?
I have two degrees in history, I am confident in my response. Monarchy does not equal feudalism.
@LaMortEtLamour What is wrong with you? Spitting out so many insults...they merely stated the fact that Germany was not feudal at this time anymore. An emperor has nothing to do with that. Feudalism ended, as they said, centuries before this. You can't just make up your own definition of feudalism.
"[Michael Umlauf, the theatre's Kapellmeister and director of this performance] had watched as the composer's attempt to conduct a dress rehearsal of his opera Fidelio ended in disaster. So this time, he instructed the singers and musicians to ignore the almost completely deaf Beethoven. /.../ Based on the testimony of the participants, there are suggestions that it was under-rehearsed (there were only two full rehearsals) and rather scrappy in execution."
"Beethoven himself conducted, that is, he stood in front of a conductor's stand and threw himself back and forth like a madman. At one moment he stretched to his full height, at the next he crouched down to the floor, he flailed about with his hands and feet as though he wanted to play all the instruments and sing all the chorus parts. -The actual direction was in Duport's hands; we musicians followed his baton only." --Joseph Böhm, violinist
"When the audience applauded /.../ Beethoven was several bars off and still conducting. Because of that, the contralto Caroline Unger walked over and turned Beethoven around to accept the audience's cheers and applause."
@ thx
If a Time Machine is ever invented I would pay any costs and go back in time to see and hear the first performance of this masterpiece with him in concert.
I often think the same as you.. ❤️
Why did he follow the girl's actions?
Why didn't he see the book by himself?
@@abcdefgh6121 beethoven was completely deaf at this time. In reality there was another conductor next to Beethoven leading the orchestra.
@@florisheijdra6086 If he was completely deaf, how did he created the symphony as he couldn't have been able to listen to it while composing it?
@@abcdefgh6121 beethoven had perfect pitch! So in his head he could hear the right notes all the time. But it was far from easy. Beethoven suffered but turned his weakness into a strength
100 years from now, when all the Britneys and Biebers and Kanyes of the world are long forgotten, this piece of music will remain, and ring out above them all.
Wow so true, and the best reason is the history itself,
Yes
👏👏👏
It's always the classics that survive. Nobody remembers all the countless imitations that came after.
Arguably the greatest pience of music ever written in human history!!! If man can creat something like this, maybe there is hope for humanity.
The greatest applause ever. The Austrian police had to step in because Beethoven's 9th received more of it than for the imperial couple. There are thousands of princes, but there is just one BEETHOVEN!
And That's The Proud Moment To Atleast Listen To Beethoven Too Too Young Fans Of This Generation ❤️❤️❤️😍
Metternich was at the concert so why did he need to send police
He probably didn't even know the audience liked it because he couldn't hear them clapping.
@@kittydaddy2023 8 standing ovations with everyone screaming
pretty sure he would know even tho he was deaf
Masterpiece!
Ludwig van Beethoven Beethoven approves
Ludwig van Beethoven who do you think you are being dead? :( come back and take justin bieber, ariana grande, katy perry and all those
Dude i love you glad you still with us |o|
aren't you TIRED???
Teacher, rewrite something incredible, re-revolutionize music
I don't mean to be haughty, but oh what a privilege it is to be a native German speaker and be able to sing with the chorus and understand every note of it, until the end!
That wasn't haughty. :-)
Im jealous, stop.
this is a good reason to learn German
I know only a little German, but I know enough to know Silent Night in the original.
Ja, die Ode an die Freude ist einfach wunderbar.
I sometimes wonder if people who were present at these premières knew how (in hindsight) "historically privileged" they were.....
Think about it, we get to hear Beethoven while they never got to hear Bohemian Rhapsody, clap in theaters to Avengers Endgame, or experience a lot of the other cultural landmarks to grace our 20th and 21st century, in hindsight people will think these were real privileges as well.
@@carlogambino1979 what does black people have anything to do with this? You racist lowlife
@@carlogambino1979 literally braindead, the american system was designed to keep the bottom at bottom. Even if the population dont intend it
@@kanna-chan9455 Comparing Beethovens 9. Symphony with these things is...god.
carlo gambino he literally wasn’t talking about race and then you had to bring it up! Wtf is wrong with you!
Ed Harris played this role the right way, he couldn’t hear much with prosthetic ears, he was almost in silence throughout the filming of this movie. He wanted to be authentic about Beethoven. It was brilliantly portrayed. Bravo Beethoven!!!!!
Perhaps the greatest musical event in the history of humans.
well, although there wasn't a precise moment when music was invented, i would argue that the development of musicality by different men at the dawn of mankind would be the greatest 'moment' in the history of music
@@tarielkaroldan5903 music existed before man did composers are discovering it not creating it
Chris Benna no
@@chrisbenna506 That's good.
@@chrisbenna506 we can't say they are discovering music.
And this man was totally deaf when he composed the 9th Symphony! This certainly doesn't rank among the best movies ever made about Beethoven, but I think the actor playing him certainly showed the depth of his almost maniacal passion for the music! I don't know why he needed someone to help him conduct. The music was playing in his head!
Because he was playing it at the pace his head went, and orchestras can get thrown off from the mind's metronome, which is why the conductor is needed at all.
Historicly he messed up so bad when he has no help at all. The symphony was a mess because he cann't hear. That's why he accepted help. I cann't remember all of it accurately so take this with a grain of salt.
Beethoven never became totally deaf. He could hear occasional loud sounds or when people shouted into his ears.
@@eblackadder3 that would actually make conducting worse...your ears playing tricks on you
This is my miracle… how he could see this music, just perfection. This music in the movie is top notch, in the pieces original debut his timing was too fast
And the guy was full deaf...amazing
he wasn't really deaf until the last decade of his life, he started learning conducting at the age of 22 or 21 (not sure), and after losing his hearing ability he gave up preforming in front of an audience but still conducting some somphonys.
Symphony ***
bader turab No one quite knows for real but my story books say he was completely deaf since he was 12 years old
+HittokiriBattousai17 you should Google it then 😄
+HittokiriBattousai17 yep no one can really knows
There are giants, there are even Titans... but above all stand Bach, Mozart and Beethoven. I could never state for certain who was the best... but I do know that the 9th Symphony is the greatest masterpiece ever conceived by our species. It is just by definition, perfect.
xXjakeNbakeXx I really do hope that was a joke :P
Yea I completely understand, I can't make up my mind on whether I'd rather listen to Dies Irae all day or this 9th symphony. So I just listen to both hehe
you clearly don't know much about this music, symphone n09 was great, but it's not the greatest master piece of beethoven, in my case i prefer toccata and fuge from bach, paino concerto n°2 from rachmaninov, symphone n°6 from tchaikovsky, and ofcourse symphone n°5 and n°7 from beethoven.
Javier Munoz
and beethoven' 4th. So beautiful SO DAMN COOL!
calavera Step 1: Volta para a escola
Step 2: Ouve 500 sinfonias
Step 3: Já que estas na escola aprende a escrever
Step 4: Aproveita o ambiente de ensino para chegares a conclusão que classificar musica é mais complicado do que escrever ao nivel da terceira classe.
As a young man, Beethoven had an audience before Mozart. He performed a piece Mozart had given him. After, Mozart said, "This man will make great sound heard by all the world."
Ode to joy resembles them.
mozart died when he was 9
There's no historical evidence that the two ever met, only assumptions.
Same Soul spirit different bodies
Alexei Stukov He died when he was NINE? Dude!!! He was 35 when he died and already had a child with a woman.
It's 9am and I'm crying uncontrollably. That was incredible.
8.32am here and so am I! Seeing this at the Royal Albert Hall in September and I'm beyond excited!!
@@fraudebs8786Happened to stumble back upon this comment... Turns out we were both at the same concert at the RAH 😃
At this point in his life everyone viewed Beethovan as a washed up has been, whose glory days were behind him, and yet he proved them all wrong, and with one symphony showed everyone that he still had the gift that made him a legend
not entirely true there was about a 12 year period were he produced verry little music, but he wrote his opera, the hammerklavier(although it wasn't too popular), and the missa solemnis before wiritng this
Good old Beethovan, always proving people wrong
He spent the last years of his life working on music he knew he would never hear. He wrote it for US! He is the greatest man who ever lived.
Thousands attended Beethoven's funeral, while Mozart was buried in a commoner's grave. Although the times were different, it also goes to show the universal reach and impact of Beethoven
Agree. This is my favorite Beethoven symphony.....and he could not hear this music except in his head! Pure genius!
7:01 how i feel everytime i hear ode to joy
or like the people in the last seconds of the video, everybody crying and rejoiced!
13:14 is more accurate
Beethoven's mind was probably playing a kind of music that we will be able to neither comprehend nor even imagine.
As a Japanese and a country where people play and listen to this music on every new year's eve, I can't enter the new year without this.
I know very well that this is fiction, but this condensed version of the 9th is so overwhelmingly amazing that it leaves me shivering and with a feeling of exhilaration that I can't contain.
me too!
Me to, it’s just sooo good :)
Very well said. I recently attended a performance of the 9th in London for the first time and belive I was the first to come to my feet in the audience with applause as so happy to hear it in person.
@@JohnYoga source?
@@bait5257 it came to me in a dream
A most dramatic and sensual bonding between two people in the midst of a magnificent piece of music.
"You look like a woman" Ha!
Greatest compliment ever!
ikr lol
Not if you are a man. Today's women look like men and I don't mean that as a compliment, either.
@@retiredmusiceducator3612 eh, what's wrong with that?
@@retiredmusiceducator3612 and today’s men look like Woman... Imao.
@@lukathurinn7906 many things
The whole movie is constructed around this scene. The build-up to the Ode of Joy (the faces of anticipation in the choir members, the acting of Harris and Kruger) is perfect. The whole scene is expertly directed. A beauty to watch. The face of the redhead singer at 06:50 giving it all and enjoying every second of it is fantastic!
I bought my first record at age 12. It was Beethoven's 3rd, the Eroica.
I thought this man was the god of music with his alternating boldness with delicacy.
I visited his home in Bonn, Germany, where his various horn hearing aids are still on display.
Such extraordinary brilliance from a deaf man at that.
just imagine what it must have been like, to hear this at the first performance.
Probably had a bunch of critics... and I am sure the room smelled from batheless people - and no McDonald's to go to after the concert!
it's especially difficult to imagine that, given the fact that us humans of the 21st century can hear this song, and any other, over and over again thanks to technology. But at the time, once you heard it that was it, unless you booked a seat in another performance, or were extremely rich, and able to afford an orchestra for your pleasure
@@tarielkaroldan5903 Was it just one time?
Hearing is just the beginning. This music absorbs you into its soft warmth, melts you down into its smooth depth, stands you erect with its thrashing power, and explodes with you across the stars.
Carl Rachel THAT was intense
Yes!!!
Precisely
that was very poetic
Carl Rachel holy fuck. I never read a comment on TH-cam so intense before. Splendid!!!
“ now music changes forever” I concur.
Mr. Beethoven, you are a God amongst mortals. As soon as you were born in December 1770,
“Now Humanity changes forever “
R.I.P. Mr. Beethoven....
He deserved an Oscar!!! what a scene!!!
I love Beethoven so much, my favorite composer.
a aww sacan pelis de todas las bandas viejas!!
Mine, too.
Few days ago I saw this scene in my art class.. Professor gave us chance to watch this movie clip at the beginning of the class...Though it was a short clip, I was really moved....almost crying during the class... How can we say that Beethoven was deaf....?? He could not hear Human's sound but i think he probably could hear the God's sound...
I'm 22 yrs old and people around my age usually do not like classic music.. but I think there should be huge difference between people who only listen pop music (I don't know who are popular in western countries) and people who can enjoy Beethoven...Anyway I'm so thankful that I can hear this wonderful, touching music ... Thank you for uploading!
There is ample documentary evidence to support the idea that Beethoven became deaf. What sound does god (which one) make?
Now 29 years old damn
PEOPLE WHO CANT APPRECIATE CLASSICAL MUSIC, ARENT INNATELY HUMAN.
Why did he follow the girl's actions?
Why didn't he see the book by himself?
@@abcdefgh6121conducting without listening is like painting without seeing
If this isn't played at my funeral, I'm not showing up for it...
From Beethoven's funeral speech: There he stands among the giants of the world, untouchable forever!
IMMORTAL!
Funeral oration by Franz Grillparzer: "We who stand here at the grave of the deceased are in a sense the representatives of an entire nation, the whole German people, come to mourn the passing of one celebrated half of that which remained to us from the vanished brilliance of the fatherland. The hero of poetry in the German language and tongue still lives -- and long may he live. But the last master of resounding song, the gracious mouth by which music spoke, the man who inherited and increased the immortal fame of Handel and Bach, of Haydn and Mozart, has ceased to be; and we stand weeping over the broken strings of an instrument now stilled".
@@richardwebb2348 Exactly!
I know that this movie wasn't well received, and I admit it wasn't great. That being said, this particular scene is EXTREMELY well done, it's moving and furthermore it's grounded in what actually happened at the 9th premier. He actually did have someone help conduct (although it was a man, named Michael Umlauf), and someone did have to turn him around to see the crowd applauding, it was one of the female choir singers who gave screamed at Beethoven during rehearsals (not saying he didn't deserve it, Beethoven was very difficult to work along side of).Also, I appreciated the camera shaking during the unbelievably hectic prestissimo finale, it was a nice appropriate touch.
This scene wasn't actually grounded in what actually happened. He was not conducting at all. Most of the plot of this movie including this scene were complete fallacies.
@@brendank5413 I don't care about that....this scene was beautifully done with the two main actors "conducting" an orchestra....they had to learn how to actually conduct for the movie...and yes, no one sat in the orchestra pit to help him but one of the sopranos did go up and turn him around towards the audience so he could see them cheering and clapping!
He did not conduct as he obviously could not. Either at various points or only at the finale (not clear from the accounts) he came onto stage and "helped" the conductor, Michael Umlauf, to indicate expression or tempo to the orchestra. His role was more like what the fictional Anna Holz character does here. The orchestra had been told to ignore him. He was on stage when the piece finished and the alto Caroline Unger, turned him to the audience so he could see their applause.
no te entiendo :/
Well said Sir.
God this scene is so powerful. It really gives insight to just how amazing and life changing Beethoven's music was to people at the time and even now. Simply speechless.
💞
This to me is such a beautiful piece that embodies the spirit of a true musician. Beethoven, who for most of his life was dedicated to making music, struck with an affliction that prevented him from ever enjoying his own work. Most people would understandably fall into despair, but not him. He made an Ode to Joy as his final creation. Beautiful.
“Now music changes for ever”..
And yet there were those who thought He lost his mind adding a choir to a symphony..
Reminds me of a line in The Imitation Game..
"Sometimes it is the people no one imagines anything of, who do the things no one can imagine”..
I thought it was Eroica that was said to have changed music for ever.
@@clairecopple4369 It did. However, I would argue the Ninth was even greater.
@@clairecopple4369 you see, Beethoven changed music forever several times during his life
BEHIND EVERY GREAT MAN IS A VERY EXHAUSTED WOMAN
Para mi la novena sinfonia de Beethoven es la mejor jamas creada, y el mayor canto a la libertad del ser humano. Como el dijo al principio de la escena "ahora la musica cambiara para siempre"....y cambio. Nadie habia incorporado musica coral en una sinfonia del modo en que el lo hizo. En la ultima parte, el tempo, el frenesi al dirigir....la camara tiembla, como si aquella musica fuese capaz de hacer temblar la tierra...es un toque sencillamente genial. Bach fue el padre de la musica tal y como la conocemos, Mozart uno de los mas grandes compositores, y Beethoven el que rompio las reglas establecidas y que dio un giro radical a la musica. Para mi hay claramente un antes y un despues de Beethoven...
Dang when they start singing...even a deaf would feel goose bumps
Wow! After centuries... it still is like now. Still is the greatest! Beethoven forever!
Goes through my head every time I finish an exam....
Beethoven's 9th symphony stands the test of time and for good reason. I know the chills this piece of music always gives me but I love seeing how all the people react to hearing it for the first time in this powerful scene. They are simply in awe, and at times heart broken. Practically all the emotions we feel summed up in one piece of music.
hannah saucedaIt's the vocals at the best part in this piece that give me the chills.
Oh I so agree.
hannah sauceda Listen to the first movement at about 10th minute in most performances, when the Gates open and everything breaks loose. Unparalleled. Its like a fine summer day when something goes wrong and hell breaks loose.
That is a perfect way to describe that.
Practically all the emotions you feel?
No me deja de sorprender y emocionar el pensar que cuando Beethoven comenzó a escribir esta obra ya estaba sordo y nunca pudo oirla, nisiquiera pudo escuchar los aplausos de la gente cuando la estrenó en público, todo lo que nosotros escuchamos y disfrutamos él lo hizo en su mente, con cada una de las notas. Un genio!
Al nivel compositivo al que estaba Beethoven cuando compuso esto no necesitaba su oído para nada. Lo escuchaba todo de sobra en su cabeza
11:45 forever and always will give me the chills. Beethoven tapped into something primeval and fundamental with this symphony. A true genius.
never get enough of this.
He heard the entire thing in his head.
yes, that the thing most astonishing, create it and the playing in your mind!! The final scene shows it perfectly, the power of the music was sounded in his head, making his world mind trambles of its power!
I've always asked people if they could go back to any concert by anybody who would it be. My one was Elvis early 70s, but now I've heard this, I'm not sure. Can you imagine being in the audience for the first playing of this.
13:13 Kurt Cobain travelled back in time and, after hearing this, he wasn't able to live knowing he never would make such wonderful music like Beethoven did.
Beethoven would have said, "look dude, I lived to 56 and made great music the last decade of my life, put down that damn shotgun and see what you can do."
end of the 2018 .. Saturday morning - max volume - close my eyes - feel the beat . thanks god for creating Beethoven
I can't even imagine it could get any better. From the movie scenes to the sound and acting, this is a masterpiece.
6:08 that women haunt me in my nightmares
Big Pun 😀
XD
Haha, legend has it she still stands there with that expression...
Me to lol
😨😨
Tears coming down...weeping like a baby. This is called synergy on the highest level.
its hard to believe that the actor for beethoven was also the actor of a general who planned to detonate bombs with poisonous gas over san fransisco
Beethoven , a genius fighting the devils of this world ...........what a guy !
I think the 9th was the greatest musical composure ever, it never fails to amaze me, to take me where nothing else could. thank you Ludwig van Beethoven.
The sheer power of this music is stunning.
もし一度だけタイムトラベルができるなら1824年に行って、ベートーベンの交響曲第九番の初演のコンサートに行きたいです。
Imagine hearing Ode to Joy for the first time in Beethoven's time, it would've been like some kind of God made it.
Same as now ;) just more of an impact back then
A god did make it.
So beautiful and so beautifly filmed. A masterpiece. The casting is to cry for.
I can't stop crying whenever watch this
I love how they show the anticipation of the woman in the choir.
They all know what's coming -- they can't wait to get there.
I know, right? That ginger lady at 06:20 Perfect face. She knows the audience is in for something spectacular.
This is actually a hymn and there's only one way a deaf man could have composed such an complex, ethereal symphony like this. Looks like an awesome movie.
I am always moved to tears about this scene. Before I watched the film, I was hoping they would get this right (at least right as we've heard by tradition) and see the Master turn around to see the audience in sheer delight. For it's told even the great Ludwig van B was concerned that this piece would be too much for people to digest, but he was magnificently wrong! Even though he was nearly 100% deaf, surely he could have felt the vibration in the room, but most likely was caught up in the moment. I wish I would have been here then! It's so spiritual.
The choir nails it down beautifully
I can never make it through this song without weeping
como ejercicio cinematográfico es MAGISTRAL. Si se pudiese filmar la emoción de todos los asistentes al estreno de la 9ª, sería así.
Los planos, la ejecución, la mirada del público.
Como Beethoven le ha trasmitido a ella su obra, para que ella se la trasmita a él para poder dirigir pese a su sordera.
Y ese final donde Beethoven no sabe si su obra ha gustado o no, por estar de espaldas y ser sordo.
Esto es cine, saber manejar tus emociones. Recomiendo a todos ver esta película
Name movie?Please
Wowowow! Incredible! She's telegraphing the music to him....and he can only hear it in his head!
Dentro de TONELADAS de basura... TH-cam guarda algunas verdaderas joyas.
En pocas palabras dice toda la verdad.
No pudiera estar más de acuerdo contigo.
totalmente de acuerdo, estimado amigo. una verdadera joya de la música
El Hijo del Rayo tienes toda la razón
Totalmente de acuerdo El Hijo del Rayo. Todo un tributo al Gran Beethoven interpretado por el actor Ed Harris.
I love this movie. The acting is great, the cinematography is gorgeous and aesthetically pleasing, and the music is phenomenal!
hundred people clapping celebration for his success but he cannot hear it. Only thing that real is his love and music. Genius!!!!
This is the maximum work that a humain being has done....something heavenly
Arturo, not that you far from a major point about the pinnacle of achievement in music, but please do listen to Handel's Messiah, final movement: Worthy is the Lamb. I am a composer. I've studied both the 9th and the Messiah for all their intricacies. Both are equals, no question about that. Please turn up your speakers (or, better yet, put on headphones), turn out the lights, lay back in bed, and let the end of the Messiah - Worthy is the Lamb - transport you. You will see that you end up in the very same heavenly spot as you do with the 9th. Peace, brother.
there is another coincidence between the 2 biggest human masterpieces Messias and 9th. both were composed by german genius
And he was deaf
@@Nabilagreen64 aye and others still armed with their hearin
@@carlorachel I didn't liked at all!! For me there's no comparison!!!!
No hay nada humano, absolutamente nada que supere esta Maravilla.
THIS SYMPHONY SHOULD BE PLAYED ALL OVER THE WORLD. BRING ALL MAN KIND TOGETHER, THIS IS GOD SPEAKING. TO US TO UNITE.BEAUTIFUL MUSIC GOES RIGHT TO THE HEART. I LISTEN TO THIS EVERY DAY 365 DAY'S A YEAR.
En un rincón de Mendoza, Argentina un corazón de 71 años se estruja de emoción. Gracias a quién rescató ese sentimiento. Ojalá alguno de mis nietos lo puedan sentir❤
With different musical pieces I can go along one onto the next.
Beethoven's Choral Symphony is so overwhelming, it commands me a prolonged deep silence afterwards.
Bravo, maestro. My friends always laugh at me because every single moment i hear this piece I cry like a baby, i cant avoid it, its so beautiful and sublim everything, has every emotions that anyone would like to have, but like Kurt used to say "they laugh at me because Im different, I laugh at them cause they're all equal" I love Beethoven and I would never regret the tattoo of his sign in my arm.
Amazing amazing amazing ❤❤❤
I cried the whole time 😭😭
Thank you God for sending these gifted shining lights to this world🙏
Thanks for uploading this video 🙏
Dianne Kruger, one of the most beautiful women ever, coupled with the greatest piece of music ever. What's not to love!
its a good mix ma dude
are know the movie name?
@@ivanadi9061 Copying Beethoven
The best 13.5 minutes on TH-cam ever.
Beethoven did not need help to direct his music. doesn't matter that he was deaf. and he wasn't completely deaf, he could hear some of the music. and he was one of the greatest genius in human history. he would have directed the music if he was blind as well.
+William .Thorén
if you only hear music in your head without external acoustics, you speed up.. this also accounts for the dubious or even impossible metronome indications in some of his later works..
This notion of some woman being the hero is just modern subversive claptrap.
I know this is rooted in awe, but it is simply foolish to state this.
@@amerrylittlemonarch thank you for being so modest, Ludwig 😆
That's not true. This event did happen. He had help here just like the movie showed but it was a man.
And he was completely deaf
Edit: i meant he was completely deaf here
Ed Harris is.....what word is enough to express the depth and breadth of his art, his talent?? The uncertainty he expresses in his face after dropping his arms, the utter joy in his eyes as he turns and gestures for the orchestra to stand....truly remarkable, true genius!
Wow....what a clip. I love how the editing coincides with the climax towards the end. Between this and Gary Oldman's version, I'd be happy to watch both one after the other, and in no particular order....
I have heard this live and it is incredible. Music did change forever. His timing and pause are incredible.
Every motion conveyed through music. Undeniable.
I am furious. Why wasn’t this film recognised for the great work that it is?! My wife and I have just finished watching it, completely drained and exhilarated all at the same time. Bravo!!
I as well thought this was a really excellent film, and Ed Harris was incredible as Beethoven.
Many reasons. For example, it was inaccurate. I don't know if you understand some of actually conducting, but this scene is completely ridiculous. Lots of mistakes that in actually music doesn't happen
@@aledbarretoit doesn't have to be accurate u dolt. Just look at Amadeus and repeat it again
It is absolutely orgasmic, this symphony is a mixture of all emotions, you feel that explode in a great orgasm in the height and makes you want to mourn, I've heard a million times and always feel the same.
Really enjoyed every minute of this heroic drama, greatly enhanced by the visual content. Superlative performances throughout.
This is without a shadow of a doubt one of the if not the most uplifting, sensual, beautiful haunting, sad and triumphant scenes I’ve seen in film. While it barely treads water against the powerhouse of Oldmans performance, for me this defines everything that cinema should be. The voice to the human soul and a reflection of all that is humanity in its naked glory.
this movie was the first time i heared this song, it made me cry.. its a good movie too
There’s something so satisfying about watching Beethoven conduct his own music
You taught me, maestro!
@@amerrylittlemonarch haydn be like you little snitch
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@@user-tl6iz2jx8l Bruh
Beethoven composed the Ninth Symphony when he was already completely deaf. How can a normal human do this? This Composer had a Divine Intervention that inspired him to write these MAJESTIC pieces for us, "common humans", so we could listen and to enjoy them until the earth is gone.
First time watching this. I don't know why i am crying 😢
Me too, I became emotional
You should hear the entire thing. It's life changing!
@@noradosmith i've watched this! And it's totally beautiful. My tears couldn't stop flowing..
I cried too ;)
Mee too
Ed Harris is so awesome in this role! 🔥
If I were alive in Beethoven's time and heard this symphony, I would give him the award for the best musician in history, you deserve it, my son, I cried from the greatness of the symphony
Yo no sé qué carajos me pasa que cada vez que escucho ese movimiento me suelto a llorar.
Me pasa igual.
Supongo que tiene la potencia de disparar cosas en el subconsciente que el consciente no puede contener. Quizás sean traumas, quizás sólo sea belleza. Lo cierto es que es incómodo en ciertas ocasiones el no poder evitarlo.
Es lo que provoca el arte, esas emociones inexplicables que sólo lo bello mueve dentro del ser humano... Soy pintora y esto es lo que debe causar las bellas artes, la música, la pintura, el ballet ¿alguna vez has visto la puesta del el lago de los cisnes en la isleta de Chapultepec? Te mueve las fibras más internas, escuchar la música y danza juntas es bellísimo. En general el buen arte debe causar lo que dices eso y más!
No puede ser la musica que creaban en esa epoca , impresionante
De alguna forma, estos compositors (Mozart, Handle, Beethoven, Bach...) tenian una coneccion directa con Dios y recibian disctado de El, pero desafortunadamente, esta coneccion fue suspendida por Dios. Ahora, solo tenemos basura de musica.
Symphony 9 is my everything, greatest musical work, passion, heartbreaking, thrill
Beethoven aaaaaaahhhh wonderful llll!!!!!!!! Go back in time to see first performance that would be heaven.😊😊😊😊😊😊
This is the most moving composition ever. It reminds me of the near future in the paradise earth when a Great Crowd from every tribe, nation, people and tongue are united in praise of our Creator.
Jw? x)
For those who want to see/ hear the entire 9th symphony in total find BBC Proms from 2006 with The East/West Orchestra led by Daniel Barenboim. It’s beyond amazing.