I have the exact same machine for 4 months. It does make a great cup of coffee, as long as you are using good freshly ground coffee. If your idea of coffee is the stuff you buy in the supermarket in the blue or red cans then purchase a less expensive model. I made some folgers in this and let me tell you it makes bad coffee even worse. I have been making at least two pots of coffee a day with this and have had no issues.
When I grew up this was the go-to coffeemachine for filter coffee. You could even buy if for really cheap if you combined it with the coupons you could save with some coffee brands. Really funny to see this very machine to be some fancy coffeemaker nowadays. Even the design is still the same. :)
Yes - and I admit I love that they have kept the design largely the same over the years. Classic look. But yes for such a basic machine it's contends with the luxury brands.
You sir, are a fuss pot! I've been using my Moccamaster for about five years now and that 'cheap' plastic has held up very well. Previous makers (drip) have had lids that wouldn't even stay on after several dozen uses. And NO the stainless carafe does NOT impart any taste/flavor to the coffee. Your comments are based on some silly assumptions on your part. And your 'fantastic cup of coffee....BUT' statements are ridiculous qualifying added statements. Right to repair, guaranteed always replaceable parts, long initial warranty, fast brewing, great scientifically based grounds extraction, ease of cleaning, consistency of brewing, durability and modern appearance/small footrpint and long life are features that seldom exist as a totality on any other coffee maker. Price is cheap? Nope, but you definitely in this instance, get what you pay for.
I am a fuss pot - I like your jib so here's my rebuttal: 1: Glad yours has held up well. While I think the plastic is "good enough", for a 350$ machine, the plastic parts feel cheap and they should hit the drawing board with them. 2: I have no experience with MMs stainless pot - however OTHER reviewers in my research have suggested it does in fact impart flavor - so...... 3: While I respect that you love your machine - on this channel I like to give constructive criticism to designers and manufacturers. And while the MM produces a fine cup of coffee, and longevity and durability are why I'm KEEPING my Moccamaster - to make this a perfect machine they could upgrade the plastics, make the glass carafe thicker and more durable, redesign the arm for more consistent grind immersion, make the buttons more durable (others users have complained their buttons have broken), and........ off the top of my head that's it. With that said - keep on brewin'!
I'm from the Netherlands and don't know anyone using the gold coffee filter. Everyone here uses paper, nonbleached, filters. This may be why the gold filter wasn't included, since for the Dutch market this isn't necessary.
Certainly possible. I'm all for not including the gold filter if Moccamaster wants to have a value added purchase. But to include 3 paper filters was weak. A pack of 20 - 30 would have been a lot less chintzy. Either way its a fine machine.
I've had my Moccamaster for about 20 years. Only had to send it in one time and came back fully refurbished for about$70! The extraction process is somewhat manual. I leave the drip lever to the closed position until all the grounds are soaked. A quick stir of the grounds will bring complete extraction. Then I release lever to the slower speed for my 6 cups in the morning. The plastic issue is nick picking. You cannot taste the plastic. Also I do have the carafe and no tasting of that either. Just keep it clean.
I have had mine for a lot of years now and the only piece that I have had to replace is the cover to the pour over basket. It cracked on a transition and I ordered one and got it quickly.
Darn it! Why, why, whyyyy? Didn’t I come across this video? It would have made a big difference in my recent purchase. I did get one of this coffee makers not so sure of my decision. My other potential purchase was RATIO 6. I regret expending $370.00 on it. I can’t no return it as my husband threw the box away. So frustrating. But, thanks for the thoughtful honest review.
Did you buy from Amazon? If you did, you don't need the original box to return. Just put the Moccamaster in regular box and return that. Personally, I would go with Chemex Ottomatic or Ratio over Moccamaster. The more I use my Moccamaster the more I get disappointed in the amount of plastic and overall design. People laud it's reliability, and while I agree its built like a tank, it's a real shame Technovorm didn't use more premium materials such as stainless for the brew basket.
@@ComputerStuff I got it from WilliamSonoma. I’ll check if I can return it in spite of not having the original packaging. I’ve been using a French Press for years. So I thought it was time to upgrade. My husband does not drink coffee. But, my folks are visiting in ten days and they all drink coffee! It puts me in a dilemma as I usually drink one or two cups of coffee a day so Ratio 4 is the ideal brewer, small batches, made in USA and much less plastic in contact with hot H2O for a daily cup of coffee and it looks pretty. But, I need it soon and it’s not shipping until October. Bummer.
@@Mslaralah Ratio 4 is designed in USA but made in china. Ratio's 8 is their only Made in USA machine. There does appear to be a bit less plastic contact which is good and I'd imagine parts are a little more robust than the Moccamaster. If you really want to impress your folks, and everyone else, get the 8 ;)
@@ComputerStuff Right. Thanks for the correction. Ratio 8 is gorgeous, but too much just for me the rest of the year! I also checked out your video on grinders. I still need to buy one. Wish me luck. :-)
Using the pitcher to pour water into the Moccamaster is not recommended, as there are coffee oils that you're putting inside the machine itself. I'm not sure if they officially mentioned it anywhere in the instruction booklet but i remember clearly seeing it in multiple places online.
Thanks for the heads up. I'd consider that another design defect then. So you can't take the reservoir off, so you're supposed to fill it with another glass or something? That's just ONE MORE extra thing. Don't like! That said this thing is going strong even with internal coffee oils lol . Appreciate your comment though.
@@ComputerStuffwell you got cups at home, right? You need to fill automatic machines with some water container as well, and that's not considered a downside as well.
Hello, I'm really curious about the Bonavita drip coffee maker and was wondering if you'd be open to sharing your thoughts or experiences with it in a review?
you buy a moccamaster, coz its a piece of art. a basic piece of art, but art nevertheless. btw, if the glass is thick, it drains too much heat from the bewerage, so a good carafe is always a thin one.
Stays on 40 minutes, at least the ones sold in the Netherlands. The water temperature is 85 degrees C. And the plate keeps the coffee on the same temperature.
Great review. Love the honesty. After having it just a couple hours, I can't disagree with the plastic cheapness but I can justify it with my cheapness at $175 new on FB Marketplace.
The plastic tube in the carafe is a terrible idea, which is why I cut it off with a hacksaw. I'm not letting plastic soak in my coffee, no matter how much people say it's BPA free.
Sir, I respectfully challenge the claim this is "handmade in the Netherlands." It very well may be assembled in the Netherlands, but I wonder how many of the components are manufactured in China?
Fair enough - hard to argue your point there - but Moccamaster CLAIMS it's handmade in Netherlands. And while I haven't done investigative journalism to refute or back up their claims, I'm going by what they say on the box for purposes of this video!
A quick TH-cam search will lead one to a great video by European Coffee Trip. They tour the factory in the Netherlands where you will see these are made where they say they are made. They got my respect.
While Technovorm claims their plastics are BPA, Phalate free, etc. there is no such thing as safe plastic. I want a machine that has near 0 contact with plastic and that includes the brew basket and straw thing in the carafe. I'd further that even if plastic was safe, there is no need for the excess, and stainless will always win in terms of quality, longevity. Moccamaster should be offered with a stainless brew basket option and finer quality materials at the price point.
Stainless steel does not rust. But true a cap over the water does nothing. Still it’s cheap and the plastic that does come in contact in the water does something
What are your thoughts on the Moccamaster?
Great
I've had mine for a few years - love it.
I have the exact same machine for 4 months. It does make a great cup of coffee, as long as you are using good freshly ground coffee. If your idea of coffee is the stuff you buy in the supermarket in the blue or red cans then purchase a less expensive model. I made some folgers in this and let me tell you it makes bad coffee even worse. I have been making at least two pots of coffee a day with this and have had no issues.
Bad coffee even worse. That's an interesting video idea.....
When I grew up this was the go-to coffeemachine for filter coffee. You could even buy if for really cheap if you combined it with the coupons you could save with some coffee brands. Really funny to see this very machine to be some fancy coffeemaker nowadays. Even the design is still the same. :)
Yes - and I admit I love that they have kept the design largely the same over the years. Classic look. But yes for such a basic machine it's contends with the luxury brands.
You sir, are a fuss pot! I've been using my Moccamaster for about five years now and that 'cheap' plastic has held up very well. Previous makers (drip) have had lids that wouldn't even stay on after several dozen uses. And NO the stainless carafe does NOT impart any taste/flavor to the coffee. Your comments are based on some silly assumptions on your part. And your 'fantastic cup of coffee....BUT' statements are ridiculous qualifying added statements. Right to repair, guaranteed always replaceable parts, long initial warranty, fast brewing, great scientifically based grounds extraction, ease of cleaning, consistency of brewing, durability and modern appearance/small footrpint and long life are features that seldom exist as a totality on any other coffee maker. Price is cheap? Nope, but you definitely in this instance, get what you pay for.
I am a fuss pot - I like your jib so here's my rebuttal:
1: Glad yours has held up well. While I think the plastic is "good enough", for a 350$ machine, the plastic parts feel cheap and they should hit the drawing board with them.
2: I have no experience with MMs stainless pot - however OTHER reviewers in my research have suggested it does in fact impart flavor - so......
3: While I respect that you love your machine - on this channel I like to give constructive criticism to designers and manufacturers. And while the MM produces a fine cup of coffee, and longevity and durability are why I'm KEEPING my Moccamaster - to make this a perfect machine they could upgrade the plastics, make the glass carafe thicker and more durable, redesign the arm for more consistent grind immersion, make the buttons more durable (others users have complained their buttons have broken), and........ off the top of my head that's it.
With that said - keep on brewin'!
I'm from the Netherlands and don't know anyone using the gold coffee filter. Everyone here uses paper, nonbleached, filters. This may be why the gold filter wasn't included, since for the Dutch market this isn't necessary.
Certainly possible. I'm all for not including the gold filter if Moccamaster wants to have a value added purchase. But to include 3 paper filters was weak. A pack of 20 - 30 would have been a lot less chintzy. Either way its a fine machine.
I watched this review just to listen to him gripe, he’s hysterical. And i had the same complaints
I've had my Moccamaster for about 20 years. Only had to send it in one time and came back fully refurbished for about$70! The extraction process is somewhat manual. I leave the drip lever to the closed position until all the grounds are soaked. A quick stir of the grounds will bring complete extraction. Then I release lever to the slower speed for my 6 cups in the morning. The plastic issue is nick picking. You cannot taste the plastic. Also I do have the carafe and no tasting of that either. Just keep it clean.
Agree'd - plastic is nitpicking - but that's what I do! Nit pick!
I have had mine for a lot of years now and the only piece that I have had to replace is the cover to the pour over basket. It cracked on a transition and I ordered one and got it quickly.
Glad to hear you had a good customer service experience with them!
Darn it! Why, why, whyyyy? Didn’t I come across this video? It would have made a big difference in my recent purchase. I did get one of this coffee makers not so sure of my decision. My other potential purchase was RATIO 6. I regret expending $370.00 on it. I can’t no return it as my husband threw the box away. So frustrating. But, thanks for the thoughtful honest review.
Did you buy from Amazon? If you did, you don't need the original box to return. Just put the Moccamaster in regular box and return that. Personally, I would go with Chemex Ottomatic or Ratio over Moccamaster. The more I use my Moccamaster the more I get disappointed in the amount of plastic and overall design. People laud it's reliability, and while I agree its built like a tank, it's a real shame Technovorm didn't use more premium materials such as stainless for the brew basket.
@@ComputerStuff I got it from WilliamSonoma. I’ll check if I can return it in spite of not having the original packaging. I’ve been using a French Press for years. So I thought it was time to upgrade. My husband does not drink coffee. But, my folks are visiting in ten days and they all drink coffee! It puts me in a dilemma as I usually drink one or two cups of coffee a day so Ratio 4 is the ideal brewer, small batches, made in USA and much less plastic in contact with hot H2O for a daily cup of coffee and it looks pretty. But, I need it soon and it’s not shipping until October. Bummer.
@@Mslaralah Ratio 4 is designed in USA but made in china. Ratio's 8 is their only Made in USA machine. There does appear to be a bit less plastic contact which is good and I'd imagine parts are a little more robust than the Moccamaster. If you really want to impress your folks, and everyone else, get the 8 ;)
@@ComputerStuff Right. Thanks for the correction. Ratio 8 is gorgeous, but too much just for me the rest of the year! I also checked out your video on grinders. I still need to buy one. Wish me luck. :-)
Using the pitcher to pour water into the Moccamaster is not recommended, as there are coffee oils that you're putting inside the machine itself. I'm not sure if they officially mentioned it anywhere in the instruction booklet but i remember clearly seeing it in multiple places online.
Thanks for the heads up. I'd consider that another design defect then. So you can't take the reservoir off, so you're supposed to fill it with another glass or something? That's just ONE MORE extra thing. Don't like!
That said this thing is going strong even with internal coffee oils lol . Appreciate your comment though.
@@ComputerStuffwell you got cups at home, right? You need to fill automatic machines with some water container as well, and that's not considered a downside as well.
Hello, I'm really curious about the Bonavita drip coffee maker and was wondering if you'd be open to sharing your thoughts or experiences with it in a review?
I'll see if I can get my hands on one!
you buy a moccamaster, coz its a piece of art. a basic piece of art, but art nevertheless. btw, if the glass is thick, it drains too much heat from the bewerage, so a good carafe is always a thin one.
Thank you for commenting! I'm not sure the thick carafe diminishing heat retention is accurate, but appreciate your post nevertheless.
Stays on 40 minutes, at least the ones sold in the Netherlands. The water temperature is 85 degrees C. And the plate keeps the coffee on the same temperature.
yes I think USA spec one does as well.
Would like them to make higher qualiity replacement parts and eventually make a more technologically advanced handmade moccamaster , it will sell well
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Great review. Love the honesty. After having it just a couple hours, I can't disagree with the plastic cheapness but I can justify it with my cheapness at $175 new on FB Marketplace.
Lol, thank you!
The plastic tube in the carafe is a terrible idea, which is why I cut it off with a hacksaw. I'm not letting plastic soak in my coffee, no matter how much people say it's BPA free.
Agree'd 100%. It's actually why I'm getting rid of my mocamaster altogether. Can't fathom why they'd do that.
Its a mixing tube. Its there to make sure the coffee is evenly blended on the carafe @ComputerStuff
Maybe you should try the Bunn commercial coffee maker all stainless steel about the same price
Will see if I can get my hands on one!
Moccamaster sells for roughly 200,- (EUR) in the Netherlands :O
Certainly a much better price than we get here!
Because they are built in The Netherlands, distribution is a lot cheaper :)
Sir, I respectfully challenge the claim this is "handmade in the Netherlands." It very well may be assembled in the Netherlands, but I wonder how many of the components are manufactured in China?
Fair enough - hard to argue your point there - but Moccamaster CLAIMS it's handmade in Netherlands. And while I haven't done investigative journalism to refute or back up their claims, I'm going by what they say on the box for purposes of this video!
A quick TH-cam search will lead one to a great video by European Coffee Trip. They tour the factory in the Netherlands where you will see these are made where they say they are made. They got my respect.
So cheap plastic is what you take from this coffeemaker?
Yes.
It was well worth the money as far as I'm concerned - now, as to others it's a subjective conclusion.
agree'd. To each their own.
the plastic they use is more easily recycled. it’s a plus in my opinion. the netherlands is more advanced than the US in that respect.
While Technovorm claims their plastics are BPA, Phalate free, etc. there is no such thing as safe plastic. I want a machine that has near 0 contact with plastic and that includes the brew basket and straw thing in the carafe. I'd further that even if plastic was safe, there is no need for the excess, and stainless will always win in terms of quality, longevity. Moccamaster should be offered with a stainless brew basket option and finer quality materials at the price point.
Why the hell can’t they apply the sticker level? Screams of not giving a shit.
That and the janky plastic --- love the machine but they really need to fix update plastic lid.
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To me the moccamater doesn’t make coffee hot enough for me compared to the Bunn commercial coffee machine.
Like it "Kramer in the movie theatre hot", eh?
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It keeps water and coffee temperature at 85°C to preserve the taste of the coffee. The hotter, the more bitter.
Metal rusts, and the cap over the water does nothing so that is a moot point.
Stainless steel does not rust. But true a cap over the water does nothing. Still it’s cheap and the plastic that does come in contact in the water does something
$350??? LOL I value my dollar bills. Will stick with my $3 Swap Meet Special. I see this Moccamaster a total wast of money.
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you get what you pay for hank.
@@gosman949 A fool and his money are soon parted gos