How Long Does it Take to Charge an Electric Car?
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- How long it takes to charge an electric car depends on a multitude of factors. It's not quite as clear-cut as filling up a car with gasoline. Let us explain. #KBB
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Don't buy an electric car for at least 10 years from today. The stations are not enough for this many electric cars. I used to wait 2 hours to charge my car and 1 hour to get it fully charged with a fast charging station! Waste of Time!
Must’ve gotten the wrong type. I just went on a 1500 mile road trip in my EV. Every stop was between 10 and 20 minutes.
Why is there no video on how long does it take to fill up a gas car?
The video likely would be longer than it actually takes to fill up a gas car.
😅@@AkioWasRight
or an oil change versus an EV
@@gregkramer5588or a battery replacement. Oh wait, those videos do exist.
@@gregkramer5588 Oil changes are no big deal. It takes about a half hour, less time than it takes to fully charge an EV every night. And you go once, maybe twice a year as part of regular service that includes things that your EV can't escape like brake inspections, tire rotations, lubes, fluid top off. Depending on the vehicle, the ICE servicing cost is anywhere from $30 to $150, and you'll spend no more time driving to the shop and waiting for the service.
Funny enough, it can actually cost you MORE to service an EV. Tesla, as the example, recommends a yearly brake service that goes beyond a simple gauging of the pads and rotors. Due to the regenerative braking system, the regular service brakes tend to seize due to inactivity, requiring a full disassembly, inspection and lubrication. All in, the Tesla annual service cost is about $200 to $300. That's actually MORE EXPENSIVE than your typical ICE vehicle service, and the labor hours are LONGER than an oil change.
It's a total myth that EVs require less maintenance, A MYTH!
Imagine the damage EV's will do to roads just because of how heavy they are ( double or triple the weight of a regular car ). 10000 lbs Hummer 😢. Thanks GM. Hybrids are the real future for now until the government gets serious about the EV charging infrastructure, price of EV vehicles and charging times.
Double the weight? Like for Like EVs are no heavier than gas or diesel cars - a Tesla model 3 weighs the same as a C class mercedes - a Tesla model Y weighs less than a smaller Audi Q5, even the giant Kia EV9 weighs less than a smaller Toyota Landcruiser 300 Series. In the USA the average weight of a new car purchased in 2022 was 4,329 pounds (all cars inc. EVs), the average weight of a new EV was 4,202 pounds, the average new EV purchased in the US in 2022 was over 150 pounds lighter than the average petrol and diesel car.
@@TB-up4xi Nowhere in that reply did you make an apples to apples comparison. Instead, you just picked what was convenient to support an untrue statement.
If you took away the independent body, the reality is that batteries are substantially heavier than engines and transmissions. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. You see this in vehicles like the F150 that uses the same body for both gas and EV. There is 1,500lbs difference between the gas and EV versions, and the EV doesn't even have half the range density as the gas version.
@@hullabaloo7939but even your example isn’t twice the weight
@@brittgayle467 What?
The base Model 3 weights only 200 - 300 lbs more than the Hybrid Camry
The base Model Y also weights in similarly to the hybrid CRV and hybrid RAV4. The long rang Y will add only 500 lbs or so to that.
These are the best selling EVs, or best selling car in the case of the Y (globally). A handful of 9,000 lbs Hummers aren't making a dent in the sea of lifted gas and diesel pickup trucks on the road.
Facts.
meanwhile it takes me less than 5 mins to fill up my gas car and I'm omw. I just made a 3 hour drive to the Miami area, I counted 5 electric vehicles stuck on the side of the road probably ran out of charge. What a joke. No thanks! Mustang Mach Es are quite literally in rows at my local Ford dealership. No one wants EVs but hipsters.
A person who owns an electric car and a garage, has a full tank every morning they wake up. It takes literally no time and you never go to a gas station . Also statistically Most people who own an electric car have never run out of electricity. Do you run out of gas a lot in your car? Probably not.
@@derekl9702 First of all, the average EV isn't charged to a "Full Tank" because it's not recommend for the battery's health. So, what you said is not true to most.
Another thing, "Full Tank" doesn't have the same value across the board. Some ICE vehicles have more range with half tank of fuel than your typical EV does with a "Full Tank" of electricity. Combined with the common charging limit, some ICE vehicles have real-world range that is several fold greater than a typical EV.
And one more important point, many cars are simply not garaged. In reality, only about 2/3 of US homes have an actual garage or private carport to park an EV in. What's more, many homes might have private parking, but there isn't enough space for all the cars in the home. Probably 1/3 of all cars in the US actually have access to private charger spaces.
When you look at the reality, your comment isn't going to carry much weight for people.
Speculation much?
Does a garage matter? Access to a charger matters, if you have access to level 2 home charging an EV is far more convenient than any ICE car. I get 300+ miles per charge if I want to - I can charge to 100% every day if needed LFP batteries are completely happy with this. I do a 1200 mile round trip Sydney-Melbourne-Sydney in less time and cheaper in my EV than my previous ICE car.
I can heat my battery, and get my seats, cabin, steering wheel etc completely warmed and ready to go when it 23F outside - all while inside a locked garage - can't do that with an ICE vehicle.
Sure they don't suit everyone but for me I can't ever see my going backwards with the inconvenience of a petrol or diesel car
How many ICE cars did you see on the side of the road? And one can drive an EV for three hours after charging for 20min. So your 15 fewer minutes isn’t much of an advantage.
Don’t buy EV at least not in another 5 years
will be allot longer than that, heck they still cant get the cell phone battery correct lasting over a day something you would expect by now with all that technology talk. this is all for money profits and show. Time is money I got no time to be wasting on a dam car, life is already short as it is. Time is priceless.
@@Photoshopuzr couldn’t agree more
So, what you are saying is that a vehicle that claims a 300-mile battery range really only has 70% of that since the charging is recommended from 10 - 80%... therefore, you are losing 30% range and realistically get only 210 miles of range from a vehicle claiming 300 miles unless you want to wait for another 30 - 45 minutes of charging time... which, in turn, will deteriorate your battery life much more quickly... sounds like a carny slight-of-hand scam if I've ever heard one.
On a day-to-day/commuting basis, your math is correct. And since almost nobody needs more than 210 miles on a day-to-day basis, that should be fine. But, if you know you are taking a long road trip and want to top off, you can get the full 300. For me, that works and is fine. If I’m going cross-country, I fly…even with my current vehicle being ICE.
@@re14437 Okay, but then the battery degrades after some years, and now your realistic range is only 150 miles, not 300. And when you drive with the heater in the winter and you load up with people and/or cargo, your range is now 100 miles or less.
Things might "work" for you when new, but the limitations are great, and they only get greater as time goes on, which is why EVs have such poor resale. I mean, who's going to want your EV after 5-8 years? In an ICE vehicle that has been well maintained, there should be nothing to worry about, it should drive like new.
@@jerryortiz909 Realistically you will not have 50% degradation in the first 300k miles of ownership. A well maintained ICE vehicle over 300k miles will cost the same as an EV. Just get a new EV with new battery after 150k miles.
@@CMCNestT The subject isn't just degradation, it's also charging limits from new. Realistically, you will not charge to 100% on a daily basis.
Pay attention!
@@jerryortiz909 oh, I would never buy an EV. If I considered one, I would only lease to eliminate those issues. Hell, I don’t keep my gas powered cars longer than three years. Terrible money management but it’s my one vice! 😉
That is why I don't like EV's and who has ten to twenty thousand dollars laying around to pay for battery replacement. 😒. You will never get my money 💰 fo😂that type of crap!
Try more like $20,000-$50,000 for a new pack.
Both of you are full of crap. You will likely pay for a transmissions and major engine repairs in an ICEv car before you need a new battery in an EV.
@@CMCNestT Right, because I don't own an EV and I never plan to.
Also, if I do need an engine or transmission repair, it will be on my old Toyota 4 Runner, a vehicle that has been in my family for nearly 30 years and is still running it's original engine and transmission. Actually, still runs great, no range loss, perfectly reliable.
Will your Tesla's battery go 30 years?
@@CMCNestTNot if you own a quality ICE vehicle like a Toyota.
@@jerryortiz909Just saw your comment. I think we both drive the same car. I made the same argument in a comment in the main comments section. Good news is, my gas tank didn’t shrink over the past 25 years of the cars life. 😂 The “gas tank” or range of EV’s do shrink over time.
The reason they don’t show you gassing up a car is no one would buy an electric car knowing how foolish it is.
I purchased my now 25-year-old car used five years ago and it’s still ticking just like the day I bought it (Toyota 4Runner, for those wondering). EV’s don’t have that sort of longevity, because the gas tank (batteries) figuratively shrink due to wear. When a $50,000 appliance is as disposable as a cell phone, we have a problem. I’d like to see this discussion in 10-15 years from now when EV’s have some real age on them and we see how things are going.
I just watched several reviews of 200,000+mile Teslas. Unanimous among the reviews was how well the interior had held up, one specifically saying it looked more like a 50,000 mile Camry. The exteriors were good too. One of the reviews was from a man who maintained a Model S for a taxi driver. He said there had been very few repairs on the car at 224,000 miles. The batteries were in good shape too with degradation being no more than 12%. With the ability to charge in your garage, and the ubiquitous nature of Tesla Superchargers, that was not a concern. And Musk has said that the batteries being put into Teslas now will last 500,000 miles. Other than the batteries, Teslas have always been engineered to commercial standards meaning they should last 500,000 to 1,000,000 miles.
@@777Outrigger Musk says a lot of things. Besides, his claim was based on Tesla's suggest limited charge cycles, not full battery charges.
Also, there is a difference between range loss and battery degradation. All EVs have a little reserve capacity. The extra capacity is there to not only protect the battery from overcharging, it also allows for re-calibration of range. As a battery ages, it will dip further and further into that extra capacity to help maintain the estimated range. But also as the battery gets older, that extra capacity runs out and your range loss will exponentially increase. It matters less with mileage and more with age. You will maybe see 10-15% loss in the first 7-8 years, regardless of miles. But every year after that will see more rapid range loss.
@@eugenem5244 OK, fine. I don't disagree with most of what you say, but the anecdotes you've been listening to don't matter either. And It's more like12% in 10 years for a Tesla. But like I said before, there are a lot of 200,000+mile Teslas out there now, still on original battery. There are lots of videos on this topic. Look'em up. I told you about the UK mechanic who maintains a 224,000 mile Model S for a taxi driver. ... He has great creditability.
And yes Musk says lots of things that he's laughed at for, and then it comes true. "We deliver the impossible late", as he said. If you don't believe the life of EV batteries is headed to 500,000 miles, you're not paying attention to how battery tech is advancing.
There seems to be a "game changer" almost every day...hard to keep up with. Meanwhile EVs sales are tanking. And owners of EVs are crapping in their pants because of the extreme depreciation...
Hyundai Ioniq 6 peak charging is 240kW, not 350kW.
You are correct. To clarify this stat, most chargers are either 50 kW, 150 kW or 350 kW. There are 250 kW chargers (Tesla's network for one) but they are rarer. While yes, the Ioniq 240 kW peak charge number is correct but in order to get that max charge most drivers will have to use a 350 kW DC charger. Hyundai publishes this (charging on a 350 charger) as how to achieve that max charging time, perhaps to make it less confusing to those new to charging. Thanks so much for the comment.
This is a really good point.. and I think companies need to go the opposite way and get people educated on EVs that they can’t peak at 350. That way Hyundai owners aren’t upset they can’t see that charging speed…
Let alone the fact that on my recent road trip a couple of stops involved seeing Chevy Bolts take the only 350 charger of all the stations available. Stuff like this is truly sad, and because people don’t get it, we will continue to have these issues.
I just need a simple answer these videos go into everything but whats asked!
If we don’t have enough and fast chargers
Now read this.....:)
Theft of Service Leaders in an educated opinion.
I was a field service tech for Cummins Allison 852 Feehanville Drive Mount Prospect, IL 60056... They make money counting equipment however ,this is what ya deal with, half assed refurbished parts and to top it of they told me not to do the preventative maintenance anymore at customer sites just run the vacuum a little bit and wipe down the machines (make it look good). I was like "But that is gonna make the service call numbers go up and is >theft of service< WHY ? Well they wanted to keep selling new equipment every 3 years or so as the stuff would have lots of problems see ? With At Will, I was fired...SAD HUH ? Country is in TROUBLE...INVESTIGATION is needed asap folks. I thank you. BTW
Great video!
Not for me.
I like the idea of the electric car's but imo mankind has just shot themselves in the foot and wants everyone to follow. Good luck keeping up spending and spending on new batteries that toxic to the planet. im good ill Keep using gasoline cars, for the rest of you good luck if the energy grid goes down or the cold gets very brutal, seems to me this is more for show than practicality, I see more harm than good in the process moving forward. Edit: To much wasting time of these cars and trucks, life is already short not going to add to lost time over any vehicle with a battery so waste more of my time. You can always get money back but you will never get time back.
Tesla Cybertruck is on 800v architecture. EV batteries are not like smart phone batteries in one very important way; EV batteries are not basically done after 3 years.
You always have a way out. You just chose the easy money.
Operating an EV requires some understanding of electricity and batteries; AC/DC, kW/kWh amperage, C-rate, battery chemistry, charging curves, and the effects of temperature
Too complicated for the average person.
For the nerds yes. Otherwise, just plug it in at home. Don't have an outlet? Or can't charge at home? Get a hybrid.
There may be subtle knowledge required for a 120V or 240V circuit on the DIY route, otherwise, hire an electrician and plug it in.
C rate? - Irrelevant for the consumer, hell, I never use it aside from building a DIY off grid system. Plug type? - Going forward all NACS for simplicity. Understanding kW and kWh is questionable, if an electrician installed a proper hardwired unit, most other knowledge is voluntary. IMO
The cell phone analogy was poor, and probably scared most away thinking their battery will collapse after a year.
Rest assured, most manufacturers will offer automated charging promps, or offer ownership advice, so the consumer can care for their battery. Proper battery care should ensure reliability past the standard 8 year / 100,000 mile battery warranty.
Some manufacturers will also recommend charging to 100% regularly, all depends on battery chemistry behind the scenes. Follow the charging advice from the manufacturer when able, but don't be afraid of breaking the advice occasionally for road trips, or otherwise. These limits are usually detrimental while associated with long term idle periods or sits.