I didn’t at first as I was focused on her singing but I rewatched it when I saw your comment. That’s so cute!! He was very adorable. That voice and such a nice, warm personality - the world lost a lot when he passed away. Rest in peace, maestro. ❤️
@@johnpagaduan3755 I’m sorry I’m this late (TH-cam notifications are not so great, half of them don’t work), but if you are still searching for it: The aria is called Per lui che adoro, it’s from Rossinis opera L'italiana in Algeri 😊
It’s no wonder really…😂 Because the lyrics she sang are full of romance - the translation: ”For him whom I adore, for him whom I treasure” That and the way she playfully flirted while singing, it’s not a surprise that our maestro who loved women very much in general, thought it was nice ;) I’m a bit jealous for Horne, a lucky lady - she got to do that!
Love watching the greats just hanging out, sharing their knowledge, learning from each other, joking, teasing each other. Really nice to see them as real people. For me, it makes their artistry all the more magnificent!
In my humble opinion, Luciano and Dame Joan are still unmatched. And what a lovely and long marriage Joan and Richard Bonynge had. Quite a pair indeed!
WOW I have never seen a human whistling and actually having a insane vibrato there too, what the hell did I just watch, I just love Luciano even more now.
@@kbhprinsesse she had both in Athens. She recalls watching that canary sing in her biography. And was also training at the Athens Conservatory after being initially refused- as well as studying privately with Trivella first,then Elvira de Hidalgo.
This video rocks!! Thank you very much for posting it. Three of the greatest singers in the past 100 years. Dame Joan Sutherland!!! Luciano Pavarotti!!!! Marilyn Horne!!!!! Plus conductor Richard Bonynge!! This is truly awesome!!! I want this DVD or Tape or whatever!!!
thanks very much for this. love pavarotti's whistle, dame joan's trill, and horne's everything. bonynge is so right on the ephemeral nature of bel canto. it is difficult to summarize in words.
this is so necessary to see. I wish this kind of documentation on technique happened with all of the greats in their repertoire, Nilsson and Hotter and Melchior for Wagner, Price Corelli and Tebaldi for Verdi and Verismo etc.
Pavarotti is not confused. "mezza voce" does mean 1/2 voice, but "messa di voce" means the placement and or adjustment of the voice. Look up the word "messa" in an Italian dictionary & you'll see what I mean. btw, did anyone notice that Pavarotti's whistle is the lead into "Strinodo lassu" from Pagliacci? lol! thanks to SueAnne for posting these, these 3 were my holy trinity when I was a young singer. :)
Dame Joan always looked lke she was working when she sang. Ms Horne the sound just appears as if out of thin air. Its also fun to see how these singers are culturally different to your average lead singer in a band.
Well it’s easier in Marilyn’s case b/c she placed her voice heavily into the mask (practically forcing it there sometimes) & eliminated chest coordination. Singing mask placed, nasal, light, bright & w/the elimination of some chest voice, is far easier than singing in the pharyngeal space w/a low larynx, vertical mouth, naturally dark & lots of chest coordination.
Sutherland is amazing. True bel canto. Watch her breathe into her lower back and hold her mouth as an oval lying on its side. Pure Caruso!!! The throat is FREE. Don't fool with the natural placement. NO action in throat!
There is action in the throat. The tone is just centered in the middle of the palate. The throat is always engaged. The larynx is low versus raised of course but this fantasy that the throat is bypassed is absurd.
@@orion8835 Caruso would disagree. Can you sing like Tetrazzini, who said similar.? They just mean dont actively push, let the BREATH direct the sound through the throat. The breath carries the sound, there is no 'conscious' action in the throat. Obviously the throat moves resultantky. Luckily many students are smart enough to get this.
I like this sooooooooooooooooo much! The mezza di voce of Horne is awesome,, i think it is superior than of Sutherland.(sutherland is the one in red right?)Pavarotti's bird singing is AWESOME! how can he did that???!!!! Jeeezz.
Essentially there are two schools of thought on singing: The technical way based on tone and physicality and the natural way based on the fact that what nature has given you is all that is needed. The natural way is at the heart of the Bel Canto way of singing. Many of the early recorded singers up until the advent of WW2 sang this way. The advances in science brought about a different approach in teaching by looking at how the voice operated. This has subsequently distracted from the true way.
Don't talk bullshit. You don't pick an incomplete voice, without head voice development and put to sing opera "naturally". And even those who have natural voices have to learn INTELECTUALLY why and how they are doing something correct and the way to obtain it when facility is lost with ageing. ALL CLASSICAL AND OPERATIC SINGING IS TECHNICAL. The singer have to BUILD or at least DEVELOP his instrument, and one DOES NOT achieve it by merely opening the mouth and singing "naturally". At the end, art conceals art. That's why there are so many ignorants denying the existence of registers or trying to push the chest voice up.
It does seem like an affectionate, even flirtatious, teasing of Sutherland - the birds he recalls seem to be trilling the mad scene from Lucia , which Sutherland did so famously and so well, with him.
Cuando vi por primera vez estos videos, me preguntaba quièn era la dama de cabellos oscuros, me imaginè que tendrìa que ser una excelente cantante para estar al lado de estos dos monstruos de la òpera, pero no sbaìa que era mi admirada Marylin horne!!!! Què sorpresa tan agradable conocer al fin su rostro... enormes los 3.
also in the first part of this video pavarotti does a demonstration of the covered sound and says it takes maybe 10 years to make a sound like that. its true because the muscles do not naturally phonate that way unless there is lots of practice and support underneath. one cannot simply pick up the music and sing it beautifully in their natural voice (as you say) immediately if they cannot technically do it. also no one wants to hear someone making adolescent sounds on this music which they will.
Bravo!!!!,great, it helps a lot all of us singers!!!!! I guess all of us, are followers of these extraordinary talented artists...that pobe their own words that you need double porcentage of working, than of natural abilities. Of course,in here you find most of the Lords Blessings given in this singers voices!!!!
lastly, it is by freeing the voice that you get to actually hear what the persons natural dynamic sound is. if the average joe picked up some music and started to sing, perhaps someone would find beauty in that but they aren't necessarily hearing his natural voice. they might hear hints of it, but with any number of technical problems that 99% of humans will have based on language and bad habits, what you will hear will be the distortion not the natural. no one ever sounded like pavarotti(cont.)
At the heart of natural singing is 'less is more'. Basically, the more you leave things alone with regard to the voice, the more the voice will grow and shine and the feeling of effortlessness will become apparent to the singer especially in parts where one would think great effort or technique was involved. Bjorling is a great example of a Bel Canto singer. If you listen carefully you will hear that it is essentially his speaking voice with more animation, expression and sustaining - natural.
5:30 - Luciano confuses something: Messa di voce should not be confused with mezza voce (Italian, half voice) which means to sing at half strength. But that whistle is just incredible!
This whole evening is available from House Of Opera
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Great! You've made me absolutely happy in posting this Video!!! Thank you so much! I've never seen it before. But all those things i've heard from my great teachers, Maria Stader, Dame Elisabeth Schwarzkopf, who told absolutely the same about 'passagio' like Pavarotti in this film, and Gundula Janowitz. Through Maria Stader i've become legal successor of the 'Genealogical Tree of Belcanto since 1659' which you can follow back until to the founder of the Art of Belcanto, the Castrato Pistocchi!
i disagree because the voice like the rest of the body operates with muscles, and those muscles need to be trained through habit forming excersizes so they can actually produce the correct sounds. also most people do not know how to correctly support tone naturally which would leave us very few beautiful singers in the world because they would have just given up when they realized they couldnt sing. for instance most intonation problems are technical and can be fixed with learning the breath.
What a treat thank you so much for posting! :) Re the mother comment, it is true what dynamicstuff73 said. Dame Joan wasn't being disrespectful, on the contrary. Thanks again SueAnne.
That whistle deserves a grammy
Has anyone noticed how Mr. Pavarotti blushed when Ms. Horne sang into his ear? A hint of shyness.....so sweet!
I didn’t at first as I was focused on her singing but I rewatched it when I saw your comment. That’s so cute!! He was very adorable. That voice and such a nice, warm personality - the world lost a lot when he passed away.
Rest in peace, maestro. ❤️
@@flav2689 What is the aria she sang?
@@johnpagaduan3755 I’m sorry I’m this late (TH-cam notifications are not so great, half of them don’t work), but if you are still searching for it:
The aria is called Per lui che adoro, it’s from Rossinis opera L'italiana in Algeri 😊
It’s no wonder really…😂 Because the lyrics she sang are full of romance - the translation:
”For him whom I adore,
for him whom I treasure”
That and the way she playfully flirted while singing, it’s not a surprise that our maestro who loved women very much in general, thought it was nice ;) I’m a bit jealous for Horne, a lucky lady - she got to do that!
Love watching the greats just hanging out, sharing their knowledge, learning from each other, joking, teasing each other. Really nice to see them as real people. For me, it makes their artistry all the more magnificent!
That whistle is an instrument of its own, maestro wow!!!!
Pavarotti's whistle is so beautiful!!!
I love it when Luciano does his whistling! That is awesome!!! He sounds just like a birdie.
In my humble opinion, Luciano and Dame Joan are still unmatched. And what a lovely and long marriage Joan and Richard Bonynge had. Quite a pair indeed!
You are right. They don’t make them like that anymore.
Right, despite Richard's being gay.
WOW I have never seen a human whistling and actually having a insane vibrato there too, what the hell did I just watch, I just love Luciano even more now.
Do you know what song the whistling is from?
(That's not vibrato, it's a trill!)
@@pablomonserrat1267 Thank you!!
@@pablomonserrat1267 Lucia di Lammermoor
Joan is INCREDIBLE at 3:33! I wonder how many singers could do that? I bet not many...
'I learnt from the birds!' maravilloso.
Callas used to watch a canary sing - during her Greek years ,trying to learn from him,too.
I think that was in NY. In Athens she had proper tuition.
@@kbhprinsesse she had both in Athens. She recalls watching that canary sing in her biography. And was also training at the Athens Conservatory after being initially refused- as well as studying privately with Trivella first,then Elvira de Hidalgo.
5:33 i love how Marilyn just starts speaking Italian like it's nothing
I know, it’s funny and adorable - she’s so talented it’s ridiculous. Not only a incredible singer but also mastering many languages…damn 😂❤
Marilyn Horne... great voice and great personality
Joan is insane.. her trills...to die for!
Pavarotti's whistle sounds just like Yma Sumac's trill
"Now Luciano.... that's another thing..." Wonderful!
4:35 that laugh is staccato xD
Bro her laugh sounds like a vocal sampler w massive delay. She is awesome haha
I wish I able to laugh with belcanto
This is so educational. It's awesome watching masters of a craft discussing the mechanics behind the craft.
This video rocks!! Thank you very much for posting it. Three of the greatest singers in the past 100 years. Dame Joan Sutherland!!! Luciano Pavarotti!!!! Marilyn Horne!!!!! Plus conductor Richard Bonynge!! This is truly awesome!!! I want this DVD or Tape or whatever!!!
Three GIANT singers!!! Thank you for this great video, great lesson and great archive! It's so great!
They make it seem so easy and effortless to produce perfect sound.
thanks very much for this. love pavarotti's whistle, dame joan's trill, and horne's everything. bonynge is so right on the ephemeral nature of bel canto. it is difficult to summarize in words.
I just came on to this channel 45 minutes ago. I will spend this weekend go through all. Thank you❤️❤️😘❤️❤️
That's whistling is unbelievable! Defo going to practice that
The Pavarotti bird trill is amazing!
Sutherland's trill, 1/2 tone and full tone!!!
I wish I were young!! I'd love to start my life over with this knowledge!
this is so necessary to see. I wish this kind of documentation on technique happened with all of the greats in their repertoire, Nilsson and Hotter and Melchior for Wagner, Price Corelli and Tebaldi for Verdi and Verismo etc.
Pavarotti even makes whistling sound fantastic
Pavarotti is not confused. "mezza voce" does mean 1/2 voice, but "messa di voce" means the placement and or adjustment of the voice. Look up the word "messa" in an Italian dictionary & you'll see what I mean.
btw, did anyone notice that Pavarotti's whistle is the lead into "Strinodo lassu" from Pagliacci? lol!
thanks to SueAnne for posting these, these 3 were my holy trinity when I was a young singer. :)
thanks th-cam.com/video/Qql5X_EWpWU/w-d-xo.html Stridono lassu*
What a wonderful 2 video's - So astonishing to see and hear these 3 extraordinary people discussing their actual technique. Thank you for posting xx
Dame Joan always looked lke she was working when she sang. Ms Horne the sound just appears as if out of thin air. Its also fun to see how these singers are culturally different to your average lead singer in a band.
Well it’s easier in Marilyn’s case b/c she placed her voice heavily into the mask (practically forcing it there sometimes) & eliminated chest coordination. Singing mask placed, nasal, light, bright & w/the elimination of some chest voice, is far easier than singing in the pharyngeal space w/a low larynx, vertical mouth, naturally dark & lots of chest coordination.
I love Joan's "I don't remember" (sonnambula) then "oh yea" and then she throws it out...BRAVA~!
This wistle of Luciano Pavarotti deserves a Grammy !💖👏💖
Sutherland is amazing. True bel canto. Watch her breathe into her lower back and hold her mouth as an oval lying on its side. Pure Caruso!!! The throat is FREE. Don't fool with the natural placement. NO action in throat!
There is action in the throat. The tone is just centered in the middle of the palate. The throat is always engaged. The larynx is low versus raised of course but this fantasy that the throat is bypassed is absurd.
@@orion8835 Caruso would disagree. Can you sing like Tetrazzini, who said similar.? They just mean dont actively push, let the BREATH direct the sound through the throat. The breath carries the sound, there is no 'conscious' action in the throat. Obviously the throat moves resultantky. Luckily many students are smart enough to get this.
Bel Canto is given much like grace; and angels pile in to be heard!
This is simply priceless. Thank you very much for sharing it.
2:11 - 2:29 is soo beautiful, she's amazing.
What amazing footage! Thank you for sharing this! Oh to be in the room with these people!
Look how normal and nice these people were and look at the “ stars” we have today.
I agree, Agorante, he can really whistle! I found it funny that he whistles part of Sutherland's Lucia mad scene cadenza.
He could sing the ladies role too. Did so during auditions, sometimes.
From 4:26 to 4:34 was one of the most impressive things I ever saw in my life, Pavarotti is eterno!
I like this sooooooooooooooooo much! The mezza di voce of Horne is awesome,, i think it is superior than of Sutherland.(sutherland is the one in red right?)Pavarotti's bird singing is AWESOME! how can he did that???!!!! Jeeezz.
Trio fantástico!!! Las voces más bellas que han existido, timbre bellísimo....
Essentially there are two schools of thought on singing: The technical way based on tone and physicality and the natural way based on the fact that what nature has given you is all that is needed. The natural way is at the heart of the Bel Canto way of singing. Many of the early recorded singers up until the advent of WW2 sang this way. The advances in science brought about a different approach in teaching by looking at how the voice operated. This has subsequently distracted from the true way.
Don't talk bullshit. You don't pick an incomplete voice, without head voice development and put to sing opera "naturally". And even those who have natural voices have to learn INTELECTUALLY why and how they are doing something correct and the way to obtain it when facility is lost with ageing. ALL CLASSICAL AND OPERATIC SINGING IS TECHNICAL. The singer have to BUILD or at least DEVELOP his instrument, and one DOES NOT achieve it by merely opening the mouth and singing "naturally". At the end, art conceals art. That's why there are so many ignorants denying the existence of registers or trying to push the chest voice up.
Fantastic video! Thanks so much. Not only very useful for singers, but also very funny, especially when Luciano whistles. LOL!
It does seem like an affectionate, even flirtatious, teasing of Sutherland - the birds he recalls seem to be trilling the mad scene from Lucia , which Sutherland did so famously and so well, with him.
Pavarotti is incredible at about 4:20+ -- really amazing.
So much greatness in this video ❤ that whistle was something else 😮
The wee birds in Modena in the 30's and 40's must have been better educated than the birds in Ireland. Ours don't even trill 'Happy Birthday'.
hahaahah.
this is so wonderful, here you have a casual friends talk, but htis friends are some of the greatest exponents of lyrics
2:50 the SHADE! hahaha love it!!
Ha ha that's cute how Horne hugs Luciano when she sings :P
7:33 I cannot. Marilyn is spectacular. ❤
These two videos are a delight. Thank you.
Це відео як джерело чистої води! Дякую!!!❤🙏💐💐💐
Joan has such a delightful laugh
Cuando vi por primera vez estos videos, me preguntaba quièn era la dama de cabellos oscuros, me imaginè que tendrìa que ser una excelente cantante para estar al lado de estos dos monstruos de la òpera, pero no sbaìa que era mi admirada Marylin horne!!!! Què sorpresa tan agradable conocer al fin su rostro... enormes los 3.
do they have more of these? i wanna watch more of them. so fun to watch them argue too!
Tyne Daly has a beautiful voice..
I remember seeing this when it first aired on PBS way back when!
also in the first part of this video pavarotti does a demonstration of the covered sound and says it takes maybe 10 years to make a sound like that. its true because the muscles do not naturally phonate that way unless there is lots of practice and support underneath. one cannot simply pick up the music and sing it beautifully in their natural voice (as you say) immediately if they cannot technically do it. also no one wants to hear someone making adolescent sounds on this music which they will.
What a wonderful clip, hearing some of the greats showing and talking about vocal techniques! I need to find Part 1.
Old but lovely video. Enjoyed every second.
Thank you very much for uploading this! I am currently a studying Tenor student and I have found this very helpful.
Omg Pavarotti can whistle better than Mariah Carey.
@Scott Kasaboski 😂😂😂
@Scott Kasaboski Great point - very funny!
@Scott Kasaboski anyone who says shush should be forcibly castrated
@@moe5201 so Joe Biden should.
I can testify to that, he d even whistle female roles to help students during auditions.
Bravo!!!!,great, it helps a lot all of us singers!!!!!
I guess all of us, are followers of these extraordinary talented artists...that pobe their own words that you need double porcentage of working, than of natural abilities. Of course,in here you find most of the Lords Blessings given in this singers voices!!!!
What a wonderful posting -- I learned so much! Thank you!!
oh how i wish to have had the three of them as teachers...it'd be the bast damn studio.
I never had to learn how to trill. the hardest thing for me has been learning to sing softly.
Thanks for posting this. Aside from the musical aspect is a great insight on how all 3 of them interact. Miss you Luciano..
lastly, it is by freeing the voice that you get to actually hear what the persons natural dynamic sound is. if the average joe picked up some music and started to sing, perhaps someone would find beauty in that but they aren't necessarily hearing his natural voice. they might hear hints of it, but with any number of technical problems that 99% of humans will have based on language and bad habits, what you will hear will be the distortion not the natural. no one ever sounded like pavarotti(cont.)
OMG! this is exciting! even since i got hooked on opera, these 3 have showed what bel canto is all about....BRAVI!
thanks much for posting this.
At the heart of natural singing is 'less is more'. Basically, the more you leave things alone with regard to the voice, the more the voice will grow and shine and the feeling of effortlessness will become apparent to the singer especially in parts where one would think great effort or technique was involved. Bjorling is a great example of a Bel Canto singer. If you listen carefully you will hear that it is essentially his speaking voice with more animation, expression and sustaining - natural.
Jewel~ 너무나 소듕한 비디오입니다... 우어우어..I LOVE technology!!! Thank u whoever made that video! Bless you!
Hahahaha, at 5:32 Horne starts speaking in Italian without realising it. :)
Loved it! Inspiring!
Dame Joan Sutherland! Brava!
I’m so so impressed!
Pop and rock singers are down in the dirt compared to the art, ability, natural gifting, and technique it takes to sing bel canto.
So true.
Fantastic pair of videos! What a grouping!
❤and they are all projecting their power and control while sitting!!😮
5:30 - Luciano confuses something: Messa di voce should not be confused with mezza voce (Italian, half voice) which means to sing at half strength.
But that whistle is just incredible!
no, he doesn't. he says messa means to put the voice, to place it correctly
They make it seems so easy
Nice video The Joan and Luciano I've heard. The other lady had a musical voice too.
This whole evening is available from House Of Opera
Great! You've made me absolutely happy in posting this Video!!! Thank you so much! I've never seen it before. But all those things i've heard from my great teachers, Maria Stader, Dame Elisabeth Schwarzkopf, who told absolutely the same about 'passagio' like Pavarotti in this film, and Gundula Janowitz. Through Maria Stader i've become legal successor of the 'Genealogical Tree of Belcanto since 1659' which you can follow back until to the founder of the Art of Belcanto, the Castrato Pistocchi!
i disagree because the voice like the rest of the body operates with muscles, and those muscles need to be trained through habit forming excersizes so they can actually produce the correct sounds. also most people do not know how to correctly support tone naturally which would leave us very few beautiful singers in the world because they would have just given up when they realized they couldnt sing. for instance most intonation problems are technical and can be fixed with learning the breath.
Or as it was known in the singing world ... Can Belto.
What a treat thank you so much for posting! :) Re the mother comment, it is true what dynamicstuff73 said. Dame Joan wasn't being disrespectful, on the contrary. Thanks again SueAnne.
Love them all!
Marvelous!!! Thanks for sharing.
Absolutely brilliant!. 5 stars and favourite.
Absolutely amazing......
Nice trills! Especially Pavarotti. :o)
I do not stend anything on that video. But the beautifull sing, just make my day
Tre mostri sacri della lirica❤
Fascinating. Thank you.
Priceless!
Thank you!
what year is this? it's just awesome, Luciano is the best! ;)
lol! i didn't know that! it sounds weird but amusing that is how i'm going to refer to mother from now on "mother this, mother that" and such
SiEtIn1 everytime I read your comments, I cracked up with laughter! This is too funny
Very interesting! A great insight....