Robert Moore: Seven Elements of Spiritual Transformation
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- Robert Moore moves on from psychoanalysis into a spiritual reading of grandiosity, speaking of the need for faith, vision, and sacrifice. "All spiritual assertions are in some way idolatrous, because it's not possible for a human to speak perfectly about divine things."
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Seven key elements of spiritual transformation?
1. Your need a vision of what is possible. @6:50
2. You need a diagnosis of what's wrong for why you're not moving towards it. @8:00
3. You need courage to face what might be possible for you. @9:10
4. You need energy through faith to pull you together and stand into your life. @10:10
5. Identify what is mediating your faith (including fantasy) @14:30
6. Sacrifice is always a part, conscious or unconscious @19:50
7. A communion with the great primal other @22:45
I didn't get why they laughed at 32:52
I think he means if you stay focused only on what you're good at, it gives you energy, but your life won't be balanced and many men (who laugh) realize this danger, like addiction.
Thanks man
Does Minnesota Men's Conference still being held after Robert Bly's death?
@@riverocean4380 He's still living
There are people who listen but can not hear for what ever reason. To me, this lecture is the air I have been gasping for my whole life. Posting this information must have given you a deep sense of satisfaction. Thank you. This is a good deed to man🙏
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For those who pay attention to what Robert Moore has said and reflect upon it deeply this lecture is nothing short of profound.
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“You have to be fierce in the face of despair.”
I come back and revisit lectures given by the late Dr. Moore in hindsight of his tragic death by suicide. At 18:42 He says that "If you are noticing despair in your life you have got to attend to your faith...asap. Because if you don't attend to your faith asap, there's a certain finite period of time that you have before that despair will metastasize and take you down." Last time I visited news concerning his death, most of the reasons given were mostly speculative. For me, I think that Dr. Moore was intimately acquainted with the despair element that he spoke and wrote about during his career, and that despair finally came seeking sacrifice and he simply did not have the energy to offer anything other than himself.
@Jamaal Richardson Thanks for sharing this tragic news. I knew of Dr Robert Bly, but not Dr Moore. I just heard one of his youtube videos on grandiosity. What a great intelligent person. I have read tons of books on spirituality and am beginning to understand - You can't give what you don't have. Meaning a lot of us can accumulate Intellectual Spiritual knowledge - BUT we MUST also CONNECT with the SOURCE to get our energy - like a Battery NEEDS to be Charged OR it will RUN OUT!!!! Most of the Western people who talk - read Saints like Rumi, Kabir, Farid - "do understand this wisdom INTELLECTUALLY - But you need to have that Spiritual CONNECTION - the PLUG into the Power Plant called God. ...I am Sikh - Like Most of people I don't get what our holy book says - because I don't have my OWN personal experience - I have knowledge but not the WISDOM or Connection through meditation - Sacrificing of the EGO
Damn.. knew he died but didn't know it was suicide. Very humbling to see how great men can fall prey to these same forces. The devil is always knocking at the door
Appreciate of the information of his passing. I dug further and it was a murder-suicide. It's sad to see a great man that helped many but unable to save himself. The message was delivered but the messenger was not delivered from the complex (shadow). Carl Yung frequently stated the inherent danger of embarking the psyche journey. Grateful for his contribution.
@@transdata3035 I read he may have also had vascular dementia. Either way it was rough to hear about. I'll continue to make my way through his work, he's been a huge help in my life
This man was good.
Just found it last week.
Death addz another level.
WTF man
Brilliant! Healing and integrative to hear my old friend Robert Moore speak again.
Karen What a brilliant man. I knew of Robert Bly, but just heard FIRST Robert Moore video. So sad to hear he committed suicide as one commenter below says. So Sad. I can't get over it. He had so much to give to the world
River Ocean 2 days ago I didn't know who this guy is. I just stumbled upon out his book "kings warriors magicians lovers"
Sultan Alrefaie thank you, sir for sharing. I am going to look for it. Robert Bly and Coleman Barks translated Rumi...that's how I got here
River Ocean here is a link to the audio book. the best investment of three hours in my entire life. m.th-cam.com/video/g1523brduw4/w-d-xo.html
After 4 years I came back. I guess I am still looking. Today I learnt he didn't kill himself by suicide( it was his wife) Sad either way but clears his name in a way.
You really ate with this one. Thank u 🤍🪽🙇🏾♀️
Thank you 🙏🏻 DR Moore Robert😊
Thank you
Thanks for sharing
To place this on a time line, he mentioned ENRON which was a hot topic in 2001.
CHRIST is the OFFERING !!!
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6:30-8:00
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17:57 - 18:12 : When your faith is low , your despair is rising
10:30- 16:18 - 19:30 : faith
19:30- 22:40 : sacrifice
22:40- 25:15 : conscious communion with the Self -> Energy flow
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51:44- 53:00 !!!!
55:30- Ende !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:57] On despair
[9:10] How to have courage
To have Courage you need Energy.
Energy comes from Faith.
Faith = hooked up to something that pulls you together/gives you juice.
I don't understand this it's like spiritual bro science and won't blame anyone who blows this off as bullshit.
Vision = Hope = Faith -> energy -> courage
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well. #0 or #8. to each his own .. but without #1 through #7 it can't be his own . so all i can say is what a thought thinker !
excellent
Terrifying indeed
Davis Karen Hernandez Richard Thompson Steven
ALL THESE SPIRITUAL HIGHERSELF TEACHERS ARE FRAUSTATLY SHOCKED HOW A BOY FROM THE BARRIO STREETS OF EAST LOS ANGELES FOUND GOD ALL IN HIS VERY OWN WILL WITH NO SPIRITUAL TEACHERS TO TAKE CREDIT.
THE PROCESS OF THE FEAR OF GOD HAS BEEN COMPLETED THE FIRST BORN OF MANY TO FOLLOW....77
You don't need a spiritual teacher in body. The spirit lives with you already. It up to the spirit to speak to you or not. That's the illusion of separation.
You, the teacher and God are ALL same and 1. You being separated is an illusion to play the game. Just think where the thought comes from. You don't sit and create thought. It comes to you - but from where?
All this most wonderful Wisdom - leads the most wonderful MAN - to kill his Wife and shoot himself. The wonderful Fruits of Wisdom...I wonder most...
Vascular Dementia brougth real suffering: consciouscommunitymagazine.com/spirit-human-broken-part/
@@MikaSelin My Inpulses make me doing it. Excuse for everything...
raginald7 Mars He was stricken with dementia in his old age, a real and documented mental disability that severely affects personality and cognitive functioning, like Alzheimer’s. It’s not “an excuse”
As a Biochemist I prepare myself for such a final fate. Certainly never kill anybody and not myself.
There's an interview on youtube with Robert Moores niece with Eivind Skjellum from Reclaim Your Inner Throne, and the evidence from the scene (she has the official report from forensics) suggests it's unlikely that Moore pulled the trigger. Unfortunately apparently Chicago Police Dept are known to not be so thorough with many such cases.
And all 5000 dined on uncooked fish 🤢