Robert Moore: The Dragon of Grandiosity
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- Psychoanalyst Robert Moore explores the spirit of grandiosity-the feeling you possess some tremendous hidden power-and its corrupted forms if it is not acknowledged and brought into its proper place in your life, whether tamed or untamed.
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in the movie avatar he plugs into the dragon so they ride together as one
I lose my boundaries when I forget about others feelings who may not be so awake as I. it could actually harm them vs waking them up more is the original intent. .thank you for the wise words
Something is striking inside. Your insights are wonderful.
Great insights about the hidden Grandiosity... thank you for sharing this!
This was an eye opening talk for me.
I've had this dragon thing awaken in me when I first meditated whilst in hospital out of boredom. Many supernatural and psychic things started to happen for about 6 weeks before my father took me to a psychotherapist and had me take anti-psychotic pills which brought me back to normal. One point during this time that clued me in to something being wrong was when I glanced in the mirror and noticed my eyes were different: I didn't recognize myself, but something else, really powerful and quite evil... Was very scary indeed.
That was 6 years ago and I'm still having strange things happen, like synchronicities etc
Your story resonates with me. Could you share more? I've experienced similar things, especially when you mentioned noticing powerful and evil eyes. I was with my friend when I had that episode and he saw my eyes. He became really disturbed by seeing that look in my eye. I became scared too. I thought I was tripping. I was 20 when this happened and my inner dragon was really manifesting itself in my life at this point. I was living a self destructive lifestyle which was my dragon taking a hold of me. I can finally explain why I was the way I was thanks to this lecture and I can relate to your story.
Me too! I can relate to your experience 100%. It happened to me twice. First time I was trying to fight codependancy and people pleasing by loving myself to the point I became narcissistic. And then over time I once looked in the mirror and saw how different my eyes looked. That was not me I was not the same person at all. I had supreme confidence and charisma my sales skills were amazing too. The second time occurred after I attended an energy healing workshop and I came out of it feeling literally god like. No fear and complete utter peace and bliss within myself. Literally every girl would be staring at me and showing signs of interest and attraction. It was crazy but a bit uncomfortable too. It's like some kind of demonic possession or something
I would highly highly recommend watching the 2 or 3 docos on yt with Jung in them and also the couple other lectures available by Robert Moore. Of all the research I've done their psychology makes the most sense to me and lines up with my experiences.
I would have to make a video to give you real context, but I had many many strange and unexplainable things happen during my psychosis, most of which involved other people. Very much like a charismatic leader, i suddenly had everyone's attention, I started to notice it was like a spell people were being put under, an osmosis. That's one of the biggest things I discovered during that time and during the years after- that everyone is affecting each other unconsciously in a an extremely profound way and no one is aware of it.
Another random thing happening was during meditation I was trying to slow my breathing and deepen it, and as I relaxed more and more I began to be very aware of my body and it's sensations. Through this I discovered with the breathing I could control my libido directly, I could give myself an erection at will and control my ejaculation. So I had never and also have never had such a strong erection or powerful ejaculation. ( Excuse my being explicit, but it is too interesting not to share!)
So with this I began to see if when I got horny, would it affect the girls around me? Yes it did.(I was on a ward with all the female training nurses.) Because I could control it so completely with my breath, I would build it up until you could feel the electricity tingling between us. Mind you I had only lost my virginity 6 months prior and 19 at the time, I was not a player by any means.
So the first poor girl that I did this with literally came on to me so strong I was so surprised I did my statue impersonation. She was older than me, nothing was said, but because of my injury when cleaning the stick in my arm she had my hand down by her leg. That day she positioned my arm so that my hand was in between her legs, right up there. I could feel she was on fire, but because it was literally an experiment and my horny self never expected anything I just froze in shock. Embarrassed and confused, she quickly left and other nurses served my every other time after that.
Another time a few weeks later I was out of hospital on the train, it was pretty full.
I was just sitting there on cloud nine feeling good. During the whole psychosis everything felt very good and sensual.
Anyways one of the things I was experimenting with was along with the rhythm of my breathing, I would imagine a swirling vortex of energy around me, and like when you're swinging on a swing, slowly pulling it back and forth and building the energy along with my breath. My intention was positive happy energy coz it was 6pm with everyone subdued and tired coming home from work and I thought gee, may as well try spreading some love and see what happens.
So I began to build the swirling energy around me and it wasn't until the stop before mine did I notice anything. A middle aged indian woman was slowly walking in front of me to get off, when she suddenly stared me down with big bulging eyes for a solid 5 count, right in my face. It completely shocked me and snapped my concentration of the swirly thing.
In that second I realised she was giving me the what the fuck do you think you are doing and I see what you are up to eyes, she was outraged. And I was stunned. I didn't know I was really doing anything. The other thing I noticed was everyone in the train cabin blinking and shaking their heads like they were all waking up from dozing off
@@AndyPoons yep, I don't know of many people that go full blown, Jung mentions in one of his audiobooks that the mental breakdown and intrusion of the subconscious to such a degree is almost like a rare call to individuation that most people don't get. Your subconscious is intruding into your life, begging to be made aware and integrated. He points out that most people remain unaware of their subconscious intrusions their entire life and function like normal.
Also like Robert talks about the gold in our shadow, much of the shadow contains the darkness we deny in ourselves, but on the other hand it also contains an almost supernatural potential, that divine nature that is godlike, and very dangerous.
I reckon Robert's also spot on in one of his lectures when he points out that the shortcomings we see in ourselves, we create as a psychological barrier to stop ourselves from embracing the god-like confidence we could have, because deep down we know how dangerous it is, teetering on the verge of insanity and loss of control.
It makes sense I reckon, that people tell themselves oh I wish I was confident, yet they know that if they allow themselves to shine, if they change their relationship to the numinous archetype and instead of being oppressed by it are suddenly embracing it and inevitably identifying with it, they can't maintain distance and are engulfed, flying too close to the sun.
Robert knows what he is talking about. I've tried a wide array of drugs and in my opinion had many great experiences in life that a lot of people aren't privelaged enough to have had, and nothing compares to the feeling of the numinous archetype.
The whole area is pretty taboo these days, when people talk about Jung they stay around complexes and archetypes, and never want to go deeper into possession, collective shadow and collective possession. Jung was pretty much talking about God and the devil, but that's far too far for most people
Answers in the New Testament .🙏🏻
Thank you Robert for this video! You are awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!:)
A potentially life altering lecture. I'm going to look into this in further detail.
Hows it coming? Must have read a lot in a week?
@@SkreltNL I've looked around but this school of thought is quite limited. If you could suggest anyone related to this, I'd appreciate it.
I've noticed patterns in human history with regards to world conquerors. For example, Alexander the Great believed he was part divine which is a clear exhibition of grandiosity working in his favour since his beliefs led to a self fulfilling prophecy due to his successful military campaigns.
There really is a tremendous power in the dragon of grandiosity if used correctly. If you have ambition it could genuinely allow you to take the steps needed for success. I think an important distinction to make that the video touched upon was that this dragon of grandiosity is separate from us and our identity and our self. It becomes dangerous when you let grandiosity envelop you. I experienced the negative side of grandiosity when I was 20 and it really was destructive.
After seeing your comment, I'll look around more but like I said, there's pretty limited information out there. This video seems to be as good as it gets but I could be wrong.
@@ZahdShahgreat comment. Indeed, Moore elsewhere stated something like one must access the dragon without identifying with it.
very well aware if this power within
many chase the dragon but few ever catch it and tame it
Not sure if they can be tamed...
Robert Moore sounds quite aged in this upload. Fantastic lecture btw.
14:26 ….
wonder whether some people like narcissists have stronger dragons or whether they are just so poor at relating to the dragon or taming it
Read Heinz Kohut as Moore suggests. For people with real pathological narcissism the issue is grandiosity is a way of avoiding mortifying shame, a type of shame that feels unbearable like your going to die. So the problem seems to be using grandiosity as a defense against experiencing this deep shame. The problem is shame is also a civilizing force in the psyche. Through shame you learn interpersonal and cultural boundaries. The narcissist lives in a grandiose "false self". A self not soiled with shame and inferiorities.
This feels so much like the relationship Naruto has with the Kyuubi
thinking the samething I would like to see a video about that
other face of dragon
- wonderous, source of all creattivity & imagination
13:57
What is he talking exactly at 20:45 ? Anybody has any idea what kind of people he describes and where can I read more about it? Thanks!
i was struck too by this exact passage
we always search for coincidences
Yes. the church leaders believing their own press is like them forgetting about the passage " even the elect may be deceived "
dragon mythology around the world
imagery exists everywhere
Carl Jung's work
3:20 ,7:00, 13:05 , 17:40
1. fear
psyches
acting out
.. ride the dragon! :D
I have the Dragon as my Chinese Zodiac sign, can I tame the dragon within myself?
Nope, but Christ can.🙏🏻
@@georgerose1315 meh I have had more luck combing divine energy with this dragon than anything else in my life. Its a literal super power and I wish I still had it...
Andy Poons. Anything we open ourselves up to which is not from our Creators Spirit is a “Trap”.
Andy Poons . Be glad you don’t. The residue will even mess with your life. Find a Bible.
Suroents,dragons, yes I find very interesting, research leads all paths to leader of fallen angels, but as more searching unveiled was another part of paths that also leads to rest of them. People who speak , knowing it not knowing are all there for either being a Muppet, puppet, or pleasing there leader, a piece of picture nearly complete, after millenia's of work. Even in this talk. I notice how religion & the followers were sutterly laughed at, REMEMBER THE FIRST WAR IN HEAVEN, WHO TURNED INTO A DRAGON TO DEFEAT MICHAEL!!! Spirit dragon still here, still hurting us all . Energy's manifest in us? That's called demonic take over , because through talks like this, you are fooled, then you inviting them to enter your soul. ,, That spirit inside we all have is our holy spirit, guides us everyday. Our father God loves us all, hope all find there ways, good luck, peace to all.
Look up Collins family , all bloodlines , your blood is key, why ansestry.com ask for it under false flags, for who? For why? Blow all away , eyes open, cannot close, it's amazing when there ,
All this most wonderful Wisdom - leads the most wonderful MAN - to kill his Wife and shoot himself. The wonderful Fruits of Wisdom...I wonder most...
don't let that in my brother!!!! Something happened that we are uniformed. no doubt
He was human with a shadow just like the rest of us. Knowing this makes his wisdom all the more striking. Archetypal energies and boundaries with them a most difficult dance.
Wtf is he on about