Listening at the end of 2019 and feeling the prophetic nature of this lecture. The snake of rage in uninitiated, blessing-deprived men is wreaking havoc on the world.
The murder-suicide doesn't invalidate what Robert taught, if anything it reinforces the warnings he gave. Dementia or not what Robert's death proves is that anyone is capable of the most random acts of kindness or impulsive bursts of violence. We are all imperfect, no one is exempt from the possibility of doing what Robert did, not even Robert. RIP
I don't believe he murdered his wife nor killed himself. Likely a staged double homicide. Important people who are contrary to satanist ideas get this kind of treatment, usually.
@@titusflaviusvespasian5923 Sir , i thought of exactly the same thing , this man was undoubtedly a threat to the ill*min*t* and that‘s probably why he got killed.
"...Parents' failures to empathize with their children and the responses of their children to these failures were 'at the root of almost all psychopathology.' For Kohut, the loss of the other and the other's self-object ("selfobject") function leaves the individual apathetic, lethargic, empty of the feeling of life, without vitality, in short, depressed. For the infant to move from grandiose to cohesive self and beyond, meant a slow process of disillusionment with phantasies of omnipotence, mediated by the parents: 'This process of gradual and titrated disenchantment requires that the infant's caretakers be empathetically attuned to the infant's needs'. Correspondingly, to deal in therapy with earlier failures in the disenchantment process, Kohut 'highlights empathy as the tool par excellence, which allows the creation of a relationship between patient and analyst that can offer some hope of mitigating early self pathology.' (Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_psychology)
I have been impatiently waiting for some more developed balance and wisdom to digest. In this channel, today, I have already found a couple videos--the history of the elect and the fact that our own appetite requires the death of others. Maybe we can fix the balance of this population.
Without the religious rhetoric, the self and the shadow self is interesting to think about. The good natured part of ourselves and the darkest part capable of unspeakable things is within the same person
Emerson Schindel I have nothing against religion, but I do think that it is important to separate a modern fact based argument from a historical and religious belief based argument. Religion was a historical way to find a representation of the world and then map it out ethically and morally, an example is the creation of the Bible. It tells people history of the world (which may or may not be true) and it tells them how to act within it. This was very useful in older times, but since many people nowadays don’t identify with a religion, and there is no definitive evidence to prove them to be true, it is important for others (myself) to be able to separate someone else’s biased (religious) understanding of the world from a modern scientific understanding which can be proved. Also I suggest that you don’t tell people what me what I need to work on. I don’t resent religion, I just don’t identify with it. I enjoyed this seminar and it was filled with metaphorical wisdom that can be applied today. I just like to separate belief from science since they are not the same, not even close. Obviously you made this comment because you identify with a religion and I challenged how you view the world, you want to challenge how I view it. Let’s agree to disagree
Emerson Schindel Growing from being confronted.. I told you not to tell me what to do because that’s not your place. By doing the same, I contradict myself yes, but you were the one to first projected their opinion onto another person. I never claimed to be objective, as I find evidence that supports my own person claims which are of course biased, because they are what I believe. Science and belief are intertwined and necessary because belief fosters tangible science, like making a hypothesis. Humans don’t know absolute truth but we have science as a means of mapping out what we can see and study
Emerson Schindel My suggestion that you shouldn’t make suggestions was a suggestion because you suggested I examine myself. I didn’t suggest that you examine yourself and your own beliefs, because the implication that you should implies something should be changed or is wrong. I simply suggested you not make suggestions to others
Emerson Schindel nope to all of that. My suggestion was that you respect my perspective and in turn I can respect yours. “Agree to disagree”. You’re looking for too much
Emerson Schindel I would say it’s mostly because I have no need to challenge your egoic perspective of the world. Respecting each other and not trying to tear each other apart intellectually is a decent thing to do. That’s simply how I would act if we were having this conversation in person, but we are not so neither of us can tell tone or any other cues. You’re looking too deep into my opinion and my words. I’m not shying away from anything because this conversation has had the same amount of relevance to me now as it did it the beginning. I’m just willing to hear you out and try to keep it civil
If the elect prosper why was Jesus on a cross, Paul in a prison, whipped many times, Peter crucified, in fact most of the early church died before their old age. In China the emerging church is persecuted relentlessly, in the middle east they are even today beheaded and crucified. All ideologies persecute all who do not agree with them. We live by ideologies these days, not principles
Fuck Yes! We gotta be in the business of Community Building! Absolutely! Extend the isolating Nuclear Family into the Tribe or Village...to include Everyone who has Anything to do with our sense of a Good Life...
This guy just disappeared didn't he? Calling out corporate fundamentalist has a price I suppose.I recall the media publicly shaming the mens movement back in the 90s.
Robert Moore went crazy killing his wife then himself. I was an admirer up until then. I don't think this negates his life's work. He had vascular dementia. I'm just in shock. I don't know what to make of any of it.
Robert Moffat Well knowing people with dementia I can tell you that dementia robs a person of the self. You're literally not yourself if you have it, and you're fading more and more every day.
Robert Moffat it was confusing for me as well. The Jung Institute said to me a week before his death that they will arrange for me to meet with him. The next call I received from them was news of the tragedy. I did not know of the dementia issue until they announced the memorial.
This doesn't invalidate what Robert taught, if anything it reinforces the warnings he gave. Dementia or not what Robert proves is that anyone is capable of the most random acts of kindness or impulsive bursts of violence. No one is exempt from the possibility of doing what Robert did, not even Robert. RIP
@@bebeezra I completely agree however and I hope I'm wrong, and this may only be my own superstious magical thinking but I was always concerned that Moore in his intensive/exhaustive analysis of the phenomena of human evil, was intrepidly adventuring into dark realms in a metaphorical sense without realizing that in a very literal concrete sense he was naively playing jacks with the destiny of his own soul.
Holy fuck did you hear how the crowd went wild when he said he disliked liberals? Why does it seem Jungians like J peterson all hate liberals. When liberals are more open to even the idea of emotions and mental health
I am picking up on the same thing. Additionally many comments in here seem to reflect a right wing/Qbert kind of propaganda. Any one from this persuasion care to elaborate on how his words can be taken this way? The only thing I picked up on is his railing against the elitism within the left, but everything else he says seems to come straight from a progressive platform.
This is by no means an easy explain, but the short end of it is authority figures pushing liberal agendas generally do it to gain support, and once they've fulfilled their goals it morphs into fascism or communism, always totalitarianism. Has nothing to do with left or right, or helping people, Movements are not defined by the individual people gathering in capitols because they think they're doing something good, they are defined by the people who have the power to convince you to show up, and convince you you're helping something, anything, whatever that may be. They will tell you YOU'RE CHANGING HISTORY, and they aren't lying. Nor are the intentions honest. 🤷♂️
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The problem with society is that these type of lectures go almost unseen but mind numbing music videos get millions of views
We do indeed live in a society
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Listening at the end of 2019 and feeling the prophetic nature of this lecture. The snake of rage in uninitiated, blessing-deprived men is wreaking havoc on the world.
Yeah!
Them and The *Illuminati-cnutpigs*
Man, this talk is amazing. I have been listening to Moore's other talks on here but this one is really extraordinary.
"We got to be in the business of communitybuilding"...So true...❤
25 years later ... he sounds prophetic
Crazy how this one relates to today
@@benjaminpritchard2675 ...yes, "end of the middle class".
Worthy of listening to many times.
The murder-suicide doesn't invalidate what Robert taught, if anything it reinforces the warnings he gave.
Dementia or not what Robert's death proves is that anyone is capable of the most random acts of kindness or impulsive bursts of violence. We are all imperfect, no one is exempt from the possibility of doing what Robert did, not even Robert. RIP
I don't believe he murdered his wife nor killed himself. Likely a staged double homicide. Important people who are contrary to satanist ideas get this kind of treatment, usually.
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@@ctelable Thanks, my friend. I will listen to it.
@@titusflaviusvespasian5923 Sir , i thought of exactly the same thing , this man was undoubtedly a threat to the ill*min*t* and that‘s probably why he got killed.
@@titusflaviusvespasian5923i thought exactly the same thing, that man was dangerous for the satanic system.
Fantastic talk, great man
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Most excellent
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Thank you for uploading! Xx
Thanks for sharing
I've had one explicit dreams of this shadow brother.
Wow I’m from Minnesota g
Very prescient comments considering what is happening now in 2017
Or even 2020.!!! It just repeats !!!!!
EXCELLENT!
Spot On!!!!!
Mulțumesc .💜
Great stuff- wisdom
Worth listening to Neville Goddard 'Esau and Jacob' lecture after this. 👌🏾
Great talk, can you upload them to podcasts?
What is the idea/word he refers to at minute 8.49? "Self-object......." ???
"...Parents' failures to empathize with their children and the responses of their children to these failures were 'at the root of almost all psychopathology.' For Kohut, the loss of the other and the other's self-object ("selfobject") function leaves the individual apathetic, lethargic, empty of the feeling of life, without vitality, in short, depressed.
For the infant to move from grandiose to cohesive self and beyond, meant a slow process of disillusionment with phantasies of omnipotence, mediated by the parents: 'This process of gradual and titrated disenchantment requires that the infant's caretakers be empathetically attuned to the infant's needs'.
Correspondingly, to deal in therapy with earlier failures in the disenchantment process, Kohut 'highlights empathy as the tool par excellence, which allows the creation of a relationship between patient and analyst that can offer some hope of mitigating early self pathology.'
(Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_psychology)
31 years ago speaking incredibly relevant truths in 2024
Does any one know the name to the painting? Beautiful piece.
The caption says: " Art from the Duality Series by Tom French "
I have been impatiently waiting for some more developed balance and wisdom to digest. In this channel, today, I have already found a couple videos--the history of the elect and the fact that our own appetite requires the death of others. Maybe we can fix the balance of this population.
RIP!
Without the religious rhetoric, the self and the shadow self is interesting to think about. The good natured part of ourselves and the darkest part capable of unspeakable things is within the same person
Emerson Schindel I have nothing against religion, but I do think that it is important to separate a modern fact based argument from a historical and religious belief based argument. Religion was a historical way to find a representation of the world and then map it out ethically and morally, an example is the creation of the Bible. It tells people history of the world (which may or may not be true) and it tells them how to act within it. This was very useful in older times, but since many people nowadays don’t identify with a religion, and there is no definitive evidence to prove them to be true, it is important for others (myself) to be able to separate someone else’s biased (religious) understanding of the world from a modern scientific understanding which can be proved. Also I suggest that you don’t tell people what me what I need to work on. I don’t resent religion, I just don’t identify with it. I enjoyed this seminar and it was filled with metaphorical wisdom that can be applied today. I just like to separate belief from science since they are not the same, not even close. Obviously you made this comment because you identify with a religion and I challenged how you view the world, you want to challenge how I view it. Let’s agree to disagree
Emerson Schindel Growing from being confronted.. I told you not to tell me what to do because that’s not your place. By doing the same, I contradict myself yes, but you were the one to first projected their opinion onto another person. I never claimed to be objective, as I find evidence that supports my own person claims which are of course biased, because they are what I believe. Science and belief are intertwined and necessary because belief fosters tangible science, like making a hypothesis. Humans don’t know absolute truth but we have science as a means of mapping out what we can see and study
Emerson Schindel My suggestion that you shouldn’t make suggestions was a suggestion because you suggested I examine myself. I didn’t suggest that you examine yourself and your own beliefs, because the implication that you should implies something should be changed or is wrong. I simply suggested you not make suggestions to others
Emerson Schindel nope to all of that. My suggestion was that you respect my perspective and in turn I can respect yours. “Agree to disagree”. You’re looking for too much
Emerson Schindel I would say it’s mostly because I have no need to challenge your egoic perspective of the world. Respecting each other and not trying to tear each other apart intellectually is a decent thing to do. That’s simply how I would act if we were having this conversation in person, but we are not so neither of us can tell tone or any other cues. You’re looking too deep into my opinion and my words. I’m not shying away from anything because this conversation has had the same amount of relevance to me now as it did it the beginning. I’m just willing to hear you out and try to keep it civil
I'm diggin this
If the elect prosper why was Jesus on a cross, Paul in a prison, whipped many times, Peter crucified, in fact most of the early church died before their old age. In China the emerging church is persecuted relentlessly, in the middle east they are even today beheaded and crucified. All ideologies persecute all who do not agree with them. We live by ideologies these days, not principles
YES!
Fuck Yes! We gotta be in the business of Community Building!
Absolutely! Extend the isolating Nuclear Family into the Tribe or Village...to include Everyone who has Anything to do with our sense of a Good Life...
👄🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
This guy just disappeared didn't he? Calling out corporate fundamentalist has a price I suppose.I recall the media publicly shaming the mens movement back in the 90s.
#AhueaMazda vs #ahriman in human
Robert Moore went crazy killing his wife then himself. I was an admirer up until then. I don't think this negates his life's work. He had vascular dementia. I'm just in shock. I don't know what to make of any of it.
Robert Moffat Well knowing people with dementia I can tell you that dementia robs a person of the self. You're literally not yourself if you have it, and you're fading more and more every day.
Robert Moffat
it was confusing for me as well. The Jung Institute said to me a week before his death that they will arrange for me to meet with him.
The next call I received from them was news of the tragedy.
I did not know of the dementia issue until they announced the memorial.
This doesn't invalidate what Robert taught, if anything it reinforces the warnings he gave. Dementia or not what Robert proves is that anyone is capable of the most random acts of kindness or impulsive bursts of violence. No one is exempt from the possibility of doing what Robert did, not even Robert. RIP
@@bebeezra Thank you for your thoughtful, considered and heart felt response. Well put.
@@bebeezra I completely agree however and I hope I'm wrong, and this may only be my own superstious magical thinking but I was always concerned that Moore in his intensive/exhaustive analysis of the phenomena of human evil, was intrepidly adventuring into dark realms in a metaphorical sense without realizing that in a very literal concrete sense he was naively playing jacks with the destiny of his own soul.
Holy fuck did you hear how the crowd went wild when he said he disliked liberals? Why does it seem Jungians like J peterson all hate liberals. When liberals are more open to even the idea of emotions and mental health
I am picking up on the same thing. Additionally many comments in here seem to reflect a right wing/Qbert kind of propaganda. Any one from this persuasion care to elaborate on how his words can be taken this way? The only thing I picked up on is his railing against the elitism within the left, but everything else he says seems to come straight from a progressive platform.
This is by no means an easy explain, but the short end of it is authority figures pushing liberal agendas generally do it to gain support, and once they've fulfilled their goals it morphs into fascism or communism, always totalitarianism. Has nothing to do with left or right, or helping people, Movements are not defined by the individual people gathering in capitols because they think they're doing something good, they are defined by the people who have the power to convince you to show up, and convince you you're helping something, anything, whatever that may be. They will tell you YOU'RE CHANGING HISTORY, and they aren't lying. Nor are the intentions honest. 🤷♂️
@@Ratnoseterry its actually way simpler than that!
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Randy = these dudes hooting and hollering
Rebecca=Liberals
Is this some cult?
Lol if you‘re talking about the Mankind project i‘m asking myself the same thing.
"We got to be in the business of communitybuilding"...So true...❤