REACTING TO WEIRD FINNISH IDIOMS AND SAYINGS | Part 3

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  • @mariusviljamaa
    @mariusviljamaa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +850

    "One mustn't stay lying in the fire" is actually from a classic Finnish war novel and refers to finishing a charge instead of lying down in fear in the middle of gunfire.

    • @mikkoammer7810
      @mikkoammer7810 4 ปีที่แล้ว +164

      Was just about to say the same. You must not lay down in the gunfire. You need to charge. Move forward. It's a war referense.

    • @juukyll
      @juukyll 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      Altough after that it has become an idiom that refers to the original meaning. In a bad situation, you have to move forward.

    • @companyjoe
      @companyjoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I have heard it when after a long night you have a hangover and you gotta go out to eat instead of waiting for worse.

    • @House_of_Caine
      @House_of_Caine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      This, a classical "Tuntematon Sotilas" reference.

    • @MoMsUuH
      @MoMsUuH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      And if it would be about real fire you still should move out of the fire and not stay in it🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @uskissim70
    @uskissim70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +447

    Many of your guesses were actually very close. Some of the explanations in the book sound odd to me, even as a Finn

    • @Jako1987
      @Jako1987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Elää kuin sika pellossa. Not "Elää pellossa". Olla kuin herran kukkarossa. Not "Olla herran kukkarossa". Etc.

    • @cristianseres1353
      @cristianseres1353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I agree. I would have given Dave points for "Elää kuin pellossa" and "Aika aikaansa kutakin". The last one was a favourite of my late mother. The long version is: "Aika aikaansa kutakin, sanoi pässi, kun päätä leikattiin" - "Each one has one's own time span, said a ram while being beheaded". When you know and fully accept that you are doomed, that is an idiom to be used.
      An interesting aspect of some Finnish idioms is that they are grammatically bizarre.

    • @Saareem
      @Saareem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Jako1987 At least In Savonia region, people tend to say "elää kuin pellossa" (to live like in the field), which means basically the same thing.

  • @KimParkkinen
    @KimParkkinen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    People also tend to combine the "Olla hukassa" and "Homma hanskassa" sayings to "Homma hanskassa, hanskat hukassa" which pretty much means that people thinks they know what they're doing, but in reality have no clue about it. (Or something similar, it is actually very hard to think what finnish sayings mean in english 😂)

    • @Audiojack_
      @Audiojack_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      I would use it in a situation where everything has been going along just fantastic and according to plans, except for that one really huge obvious problem that just popped up. You had everything tightly in your glove, but then you lost the glove...

    • @akumjh
      @akumjh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      That line is from the song "Vasara ja Nauloja"
      Also has, "läpi kiven perse edellä puuhun"
      "Through hard stone, ass first up the tree".

    • @Lasbaa_IRL
      @Lasbaa_IRL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Homma hanskassa, hanskat hukassa, hukka metsässä ja metsä tulessa

    • @coloripple
      @coloripple 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Is it weird that i've never untill this day thought of "olla hukassa" being inside a wolf? It's such a common saying that that i honestly thought hukka, while being a homonym fpe wolf, would also be a synonym for "lost"...
      Actually funnily hukka is not used often for wolf, because "susi is the common name for wolf. Hukka i'd say is used way more for the saying (if it really is a saying, my life has been a lie!)

    • @enrymion9681
      @enrymion9681 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@coloripple Hukka for wolf apparently originated as a way to avoid referring to wolves with their realm name(to avoid attracting attention of them or such) by using an otherwise innocuous word like to be lost instead.

  • @zomaga1
    @zomaga1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    I have heard "Itku pitkästä ilosta" more in sense of you are as a kid having fun and disregarding how much "fun" toy can take or animal etc. And when you have had too much fun too roughly forgetting the world and the thing you are having fun with snaps or breaks. Dog bites or toy breaks and child gets hurt/upset. another would be example jumping on bed and falling down and hurting yourself.

    • @maijapoppanen218
      @maijapoppanen218 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same 👍🏻

    • @Murzac
      @Murzac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Yeah that's pretty much it. Having too much fun and ending up causing an accident or something that, as the idiom says, turns the excessive fun into tears.

    • @heljahesso9936
      @heljahesso9936 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's like when you inhale helium it's fun but it can end up in tears or worse I loved when my brother did that played Donald when I was little

    • @Perkele_Itse
      @Perkele_Itse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Definitely this.
      Now that you said it, I realized that THIS is how I've always understood the saying.

    • @timomastosalo
      @timomastosalo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, it's the same Basic meaning that don't lose your wits when having fun - or it'll end in tears. And he was right in it's said to kids.

  • @lassihelin4187
    @lassihelin4187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +399

    "Olla hukassa" seems more like just a normal sentence. Not really a saying or idiom. I'd say a more accurate translation would be "To be lost".

    • @crashbandiboi8530
      @crashbandiboi8530 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lassi Helin tää

    • @MoMsUuH
      @MoMsUuH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Yeah because a Finnish word "hukkua" means "something went missing" so "hukassa" is just bent from the word "hukkua". (it also means to drown as it is a homonym)

    • @inkeriananas
      @inkeriananas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Yeah it shouldve been "(tai muuten) hukka perii" which is about a wolf and is not used as casually as "olla hukassa".

    • @TheRealFOSFOR
      @TheRealFOSFOR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@MoMsUuH Tiesitkö muuten että 'pula' tarkoitti aikanaan sanaa 'avanto'.. joten jos joku oli pulassa niin hän oli pian hukkunut avantoon.

    • @digitalspecter
      @digitalspecter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@TheRealFOSFOR oli siis pulahtanut avantoon :)

  • @Ekami-chan
    @Ekami-chan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    What I'm learning from this, is that a translation of this book isn't good, there were at least 3 where you were right on the meaning, but the english explanation of the saying was wrong.

    • @RuuttiFI
      @RuuttiFI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I noticed that as well. The translator didn't do enough research into English idioms, or isn't too familiar with the nuances of English words(or the Finnish sayings). Most of the idioms have a corresponding one in English that should have been the way to translate these to the bottom of the page. Now there's just enough lost in the translation that I kind of get irritated about that book. Silly me.

    • @Afrohare
      @Afrohare 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RuuttiFI Sanopa muuta! Using the equivalent English idioms would be so much more informative.

    • @SailorYuki
      @SailorYuki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My experience of translations is that they never seem to get it just right but this is a travesty.

  • @cerulean8
    @cerulean8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    "Ei voi kauhalla pyytää, kun on lusikalla annettu" means that you can't expect much (a ladleful) from a stupid person (who only has been given a spoonful). It's basically when you expect something from someone and they do something stupid instead or can't do something that's supposed to be a simple thing.

    • @3cch1tt3b4n3
      @3cch1tt3b4n3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      This one was actually a bit surprising to me, for I have heard it in other kind of contexts as well. Like, you shouldn't expect someone to be able to do something if it's beyond one's abilities / hasn't been taught to do that. I study early childhood education and that proverb has been used for instance when a child hasn't been given proper instructions or hasn't been given a chance to learn something, then "ei voi kauhalla vaatia, kun on lusikalla annettu". Meaning the person who takes care of the child should look in the mirror not that the child is stupid. Guess someone has just been creative and found a new context to use the proverb in, for it is natural for language to change over time.

    • @cerulean8
      @cerulean8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@3cch1tt3b4n3 I've only heard it as a negative about the person who has been given a spoonful. It can mean that the person hasn't been taught something (like manners), but usually it's been about something everyone should know. I guess referring to children it would make sense that it means poor parenting or guidance since you can't really blame a child for not knowing how to do something.

    • @mirvale87
      @mirvale87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My mum only uses this one when someone doesn't understand something witty. :)

    • @itsnotoona
      @itsnotoona 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I see. So the saying is talking about the amount of braincells given 😆

  • @hurri7720
    @hurri7720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    One of my favorites is "kuin juosten kustu" any similar in English.

    • @OsKuukkeli
      @OsKuukkeli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "Make a pigs ear out of it" eli hutiloida vois olla aika lähellä.

    • @3cch1tt3b4n3
      @3cch1tt3b4n3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@OsKuukkeli Does not have the same twist to it but a good suggestion. The image I get from the Finnish one always put a grin to my face.

    • @elderscrollsswimmer4833
      @elderscrollsswimmer4833 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OsKuukkeli ??? Dogs love roasted pig's ears.

  • @Rebasepoiss
    @Rebasepoiss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is really interesting to watch as an Estonian since some of the sayings are the same in direct translation and meaning as in Estonian.
    The saying "itku pitkästä ilosta" in Estonian is "pill tuleb pika ilu peale". However, "ilu" only means "fun" in that saying, otherwise it means "beauty" in Estonian. This means that the saying probably has very old roots and that in the Estonian language the word "ilu" got a different meaning after that.

  • @arttuuusisalo8709
    @arttuuusisalo8709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Dave still hasn't looked up the saying "Eihän tästä tule lasta eikä paskaa" which is ironically the first thing that comes to mind as i'm watching these videos.

    • @Italiafani
      @Italiafani 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      _neither a child nor a shit is being born out of this_

    • @smileyfacegr6691
      @smileyfacegr6691 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imma look it up now

    • @smileyfacegr6691
      @smileyfacegr6691 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ok I don't trust google translate

    • @smileyfacegr6691
      @smileyfacegr6691 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Italiafani thank you, this is brilliant 😂 (I know it's the translation)

    • @arttuuusisalo8709
      @arttuuusisalo8709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@smileyfacegr6691 If translated straight to english it means: This will never become either a baby or a shit. So basically when you're doing something and it doesn't go your way :D

  • @House_of_Caine
    @House_of_Caine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    "Hätä ei ole tämän näköinen" is basicly "Don't panic, we got this!"

    • @cornae4658
      @cornae4658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Niin tai sitten et "ei tää oo niin paha", mut kumpiki on yleinen

  • @khissu.
    @khissu. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Itku pitkästä ilosta. - Well, I have 3 girls and when they play together it almost always ends up with one of them getting hurt and ending up crying. So cry from long fun.

  • @tammikilpi6993
    @tammikilpi6993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I really like " 'vaihtelu virkistää' sano kissa ku mummolla pöytää pyyhki" which means " 'change is refreshing' said the cat while wiping a table with the grandma"
    Also itku pitkästä ilosta is a really common saying, at least in my family. I feel like it says something about us as people, especially if you also look at sayings like oma kehu haisee (self-compliments stink) and kel onni on se onnen kätkeköön (who has joy/happiness/luck must hide it)

    • @vilshe7449
      @vilshe7449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No toi ylempi oli kyllä itelle uus :DD pittääpi alkaa käyttämään

    • @kimmoantinaho3834
      @kimmoantinaho3834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vilshe7449 Se on Mikko Alatalon lastenlaulusta

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Väännetäänkö rautalangasta, vai pitääkö hakea ratakiskoa?

  • @emm1h
    @emm1h 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Have you already come across "Näytä sille mistä kana pissii"? which is in english word-to-word "Show them where the chicken pees". Its basically is just a weird version of "Show them who's boss." I think its hilarious.

    • @aavakainen
      @aavakainen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Also, "näytä sille närhen munat" = "show him/her/them a jay's eggs/cock/balls". Same meaning.

  • @neapiirainen878
    @neapiirainen878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    There is more to the "itku pitkästä ilosta" one: "Itku pitkästä ilosta, pieru kauan nauramisesta", "Cry from long fun, fart from a long laugh". You will suffer if you have too much fun.

  • @syv2un1
    @syv2un1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    Who made this book!? These translations will make any Finn lose their cool.

    • @annisaurus
      @annisaurus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Karoliina Korhonen if I recall correctly

    • @anzu8607
      @anzu8607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm Finnish. I laughed for 3 hrs because of this video🤣🤣🤣

    • @roniflexs
      @roniflexs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes these definitions are just so wrong

  • @patrikpakarinen
    @patrikpakarinen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Often after saying the saying "there are many methods, said grandma while wiping the table with a cat", we Finns say "vaihtelu virkistää, sanoi kissa kun mummolla pöytää pyyhki", which means "variety is the spice of life, said the cat while wiping the table with the grandma"

  • @mariella3172
    @mariella3172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I thought "vääntää rautalangasta" (to bend it from iron wire) is an universal saying :D I use it all the time!

    • @altmail1572
      @altmail1572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Me too! We also have the infamous "rautalankamalli", an iron wire model.

    • @ttorum
      @ttorum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Virossa sanotaan "puust ja punaseks"

  • @munkayttaja6913
    @munkayttaja6913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Olla hukassa, can also mean that you have no clue about something,
    It's used in schools a lot

    • @altmail1572
      @altmail1572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And "hukassa" is related to "hukkua" (to drown, to get lost), not to "hukka" (a wolf, susi). Those damn cases attack again. :D And the author of that book was having a bit of fun with it.

    • @bror8228
      @bror8228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@altmail1572 It´s more related to "hukata" meaning to lose something like "nestehukka"

    • @altmail1572
      @altmail1572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bror8228 True, you're right. What I would like to know are all these words with huk-beginning from the same root? Including hukka as a word for a wolf. Or is it just coincidence.

    • @3cch1tt3b4n3
      @3cch1tt3b4n3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Plus all the variations of that, "olla pihalla / kujalla / pihalla kuin lumiukko" etc. I always find it fascinating how people like to invent new sayings just for the fun of it.

    • @fieratheproud
      @fieratheproud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@altmail1572 another commenter somewhere in the comments of this video mentioned that "hukka" may be a word for wolf because due to old beliefs people didn't wanna say "susi" in fear of "calling" one to you by just mentioning it. Like, Speak of the Devil and he shall appear. I don't know for sure but that would make sense to me, considering the multiple nicknames for bears in Finnish (otso, kontio, probably more that I just can't remember at 1 am).

  • @johanna_na
    @johanna_na 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    😄 That grandma wiping the table with her cat made me laugh. My poor dog, she's sleeping leaning on my lap and I was trying not to wake her up while shaking with silent laughter 😊 Excellent illustrations in the book aswell.

  • @FlatBeeF
    @FlatBeeF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    I think "olla Herran kukkarossa" translation is wrong, or the translation is ok but the meaning doesn't come across quite right. The lord in this idiom means the God not just any lord. It should mean something along the lines of you being close to the God so your life is in good hands.

    • @sasropakis
      @sasropakis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      You are right. It actually comes from the Bible. 1 Samuel 25:29 "Jos joku ryhtyy sinua vainoamaan ja tavoittelee henkeäsi, niin Herra, sinun Jumalasi, pitää henkesi tallella kuin kukkarossa, elävien joukossa, mutta vihollistesi hengen hän linkoaa pois kuin kiven." "Even though someone is pursuing you to take your life, the life of my lord will be bound securely in the bundle of the living by the Lord your God, but the lives of your enemies he will hurl away as from the pocket of a sling."

    • @pev_
      @pev_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Are you sure? Because I could imagine that this could mean the old times when you had a lord, like a landlord or the "master" of the house or you were a servant to a lord in a manor. That's why I think the general word "lord" is good in this one.
      EDIT: And really who thinks a god would have a wallet? :)

    • @sasropakis
      @sasropakis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@pev_ Many old sayings have a biblical background because religion had a more prominent part in people's lives. Even though the connection is nowadays pretty much forgotten. Like everyone undestands a saying like "helmiä siolle", "pearls before swine", but very few actually know that it comes from the Bible too. And of course kukkaro isn't meant to be understood literally in this case so God doesn't have a purse and some money in it...

    • @pev_
      @pev_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sasropakis Yes, everything was "biblical" at some dark time in history. And most everything can be explained, by religious people, as being just a metaphor and not literal. BUT there were things even in those dark days that came from everyday life outside of the religion and I think this is a good candidate.

    • @artofstormdancing3319
      @artofstormdancing3319 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@pev_ It is literally from the Bible. There is no contest. It is a Biblical saying, like many, many of the Finnish sayings are.

  • @JakeKilka
    @JakeKilka 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When your kid runs around the house ignoring your commands to calm down and then falls down and cries, you can say "itku pitkästä ilosta". Or whenever you have a hangover.

  • @FallenAdam
    @FallenAdam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Mate, your job is weird. 😂

    • @davecad
      @davecad  4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Tell me about it! I love it though :D

  • @internetexplorer1057
    @internetexplorer1057 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Lol I was often told "Itku pitkästä ilosta" as a kid. But I have always thought it meant more like "If you're having so much fun it makes you careless, something bad will happen." For example when you're having a play swordfight with your cousin, your mom looks at what you guys are doing and says "itku pitkästä ilosta", you go "yea yea whatever" and your cousin ends up smacking you on the fingers or in the face with a stick 5 minutes later.

    • @elderscrollsswimmer4833
      @elderscrollsswimmer4833 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lots of things could be the "fun" here. Drinking leads to hangover. Sex leads to childbirth (and all that goes with taking care of a crying baby). Playing with matches, knifes, scissors...

  • @artofstormdancing3319
    @artofstormdancing3319 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Itku pitkästä ilosta is like THE saying that describes Finns the most. Always be on a lookout if things are going too well, you just can't be happy and content to your life. At least envy your neighbour's new bucket he got from staying in line for hourse during a store opening party.

    • @Saareem
      @Saareem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Itku pitkästä ilosta is perhaps most commonly used when children have too much energy and they have been running all around the house/restaurant whatever causing parents to tell them to stop by they don't comply. Then all of a sudden one of them trips and hurts him/herself basically ending the fun right there. That's when the adults at least look at each other and mutter that idiom if they don't tell it to kids. Look kids, this is what may happen if you get too caught up in the fun and don't pay attention.

    • @shake544
      @shake544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the swedish have the "jantelagen" which means it is not appropriate to brag or to lift yourself above others, comes close of the idea

  • @sasusantaranta
    @sasusantaranta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My mother used to say "itku pitkästä ilosta" (cry from long fun) to me and my brothers alot when we were kids. Usually our fun ended in accident, for example falling from a swing.

    • @wintergirldancing
      @wintergirldancing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is how I understand/relate to the saying too.. You play a little too rough and have an accident and mom will be like... what did I tell you...

  • @kimmoko7496
    @kimmoko7496 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Konstit on monet sanoi mummo kun kissalla pöytää pyyhki" I think you nailed it. If i should explain that saying i would refer to that same saying "There are more than one ways to skin a cat"

  • @vilko1977
    @vilko1977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think you were quite right, on that "elää kuin pellossa". That "born in the barn" sound like it has similar meaning or it fit same kind of thinks.

  • @fieratheproud
    @fieratheproud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always translated "Vahinko ei tule kello kaulassa" as "an accident doesn't come with a clock around it's neck". Would mean the same, I guess I just always thought of it being like, the clock counting down until the accident would happen.
    ...but the bell makes more sense because, y'know, bells make noise. That's why people tie bells to their cats, right?

  • @heikkiremes5661
    @heikkiremes5661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fire in this case, relates gunfire. Charge! Keep moving!

  • @Perkele_Itse
    @Perkele_Itse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lol that "Olla Hukassa" is really weird that they chose to go for the HUKKA = Wolf, instead of what I would assume most people think it, as "Being lost".
    "Being lost" is definitely what I would say "Olla hukassa" translates to, this one's being waaay to literal for some reaosn.

    • @elderscrollsswimmer4833
      @elderscrollsswimmer4833 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So It would not be too EASY? Also. maybe wolf eating the Lost thing was some sort of explanation..

    • @fieratheproud
      @fieratheproud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@elderscrollsswimmer4833 dunno, nowadays, at least in my area, people usually use the word "hukka" for when they've lost something. Not sure where the word actually comes from, if people used it for "wolf" first or later. The more commin word for wolf is "susi". Some have offered the explanation that "hukka" meaning wolf came from things being lost, and others have said it's the other way around.
      "Mun penaali on hukassa" = "my pencil case is missing". Should also be noted that you can say that the pencil case has "drowned (somewhere)", like "Mun penaali on hukkunut (jonnekkin)" and it would mean the same thing.
      ...language is weird

  • @miikaniemitalo5551
    @miikaniemitalo5551 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i never heard saying "Aika Aikansa Kutakin".....usually i've heard "Aikansa Kutakin" and i usually use this too..... its "everything has it's end"

  • @erilassila409
    @erilassila409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    It's probably supposed to be "in The Lord's wallet", Lord in this instance referring to God.

    • @Makapaa
      @Makapaa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep, tho it still works in more "historical sense" too - just not quite that well. Being on good terms with "the lord" makes life much easier, even if they may call for services in return. (i.e. you have your part of the pot, but they still have 'you' in their wallet.) Most of the Finns have been people subject to a local "Lord", be it from an estate, church, industry etc. until rather recently after all. Two very different views that end up in the same place.

    • @exantiuse497
      @exantiuse497 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The saying doesn't mean what the book says it does. "Herran kukkarossa" means you are safe from harm
      The Lord there does indeed mean God, it's from the Finnish translation of the Bible (1st Samuel 25) which says if you are threatened God keeps you safe as if you were in his purse (the English translation talks nothing of purses there so it makes no sense in that language)

  • @ellik1165
    @ellik1165 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ei saa jäädä tuleen makaamaan is more like..don't stay in a bad situation/relationship/place if you realise it's bad. It's similar to Ei kannata jäädä uppoavaan laivaan = there's no use to stay on a sinking ship.

    • @inkeriananas
      @inkeriananas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's how I've always took and used it as well.

    • @Rinssi_from_Finland
      @Rinssi_from_Finland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And I'd say the picture was off too. I've always thought this saying comes from times of war. The fire here doesn't mean flames but gun fire. You shouldn't just sit still when you are fired at, you should do something.

  • @monksuu
    @monksuu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I heard a longer version in my childhood for "itku pitkästä ilosta" that explains the saying right away: "Itku pitkästä ilosta. Pieru kauan nauramisesta." Having too much fun for a looong time brings you down (to cry) and same goes to laughing a loong time - you'll fart after laughing too much. ;)

  • @Ichigoeki
    @Ichigoeki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    That's actually a thing too. When a kid starts crying after a day out/in an amusement park/anywhere where they liked being, the usual answer I've at least heard is "Aww, did you have too much fun today?" Generally said by the parents, but with love in their voice ofc. That's at least what my parents and all their friends have done while raising us =P

  • @Jonas-bu3yu
    @Jonas-bu3yu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A thing I've experienced, that helped alot of non native people with finnish prononounciation: Keep a monotone tone. Talk like nothing matters, especially since you're Brittish and have a "singing" rhythm to your speaking. Yes I know it sounds sad but that's just the case.
    Love your vids Dave, keep it up!

    • @shake544
      @shake544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yep, emphasis on the first syllable (if any)

  • @timomastosalo
    @timomastosalo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That Don't stay lying in the fire makes perfectly sense. The explanation wasn't very smart - it was kinda true, but didn't explain there's a risk involved.
    It means 'You have to advance, choose any direction, but don't stay still (staying passive is more damaging).'

  • @thetoasterunicorn
    @thetoasterunicorn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dad sometimes says ”Aikansa kutakin, sanoi pässi kun päätä leikattiin” which basically means the same thing as in 3:57. But it translates to something like everything lasts for it’s while, said a ram when it’s head got cut off.

  • @doomteam2326
    @doomteam2326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These videos are super entertaining to watch especially as a finn

  • @Argantonis
    @Argantonis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Olla herran kukkarossa is literally to be in The Lord's wallet as in the God's wallet. It makes much more sense like that.

  • @Ice_barrage
    @Ice_barrage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think "olla hukassa, to be missing or lost" comes from early ages when people, mostly children got missing and it was quite often that they had been eaten by wolves

  • @vilko1977
    @vilko1977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ...and "kuin terven juontia" is quite right with "hard pil to swallow".

  • @TimoLahti
    @TimoLahti 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Itku pitkästä ilosta like..hangover :D

  • @venlajunnikkala2938
    @venlajunnikkala2938 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "itku pitkästä ilosta" is usually said when a childrens game/play eventually results in someone crying imo

  • @kek_tus
    @kek_tus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That stop laying in the fire is imo more like "Get up, stop it. You got this"

  • @fridahame6164
    @fridahame6164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My most used of these are probably "siinä ei kauaa nokka tuhise", "seistä tumput suorina", "vääntää rautalangasta" and "kuin kaksi marjaa". All of them are definetely familiar for most Finns. It's so funny to hear your guesses 😁

  • @thomas35835
    @thomas35835 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    To be honest I think this book does extraordinaly bad job explaining the sayings, perhaps the writers didn’t quite understand them either. Your hunch was quite often fairly close.

  • @TheYannir
    @TheYannir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would love to see Kat making a reaction video to one of these, and scoring you before you score yourself. :D

  • @sf945
    @sf945 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Itku pitkästä ilosta, pieru kauan naurattaa" 😃 My granny used to say this all the time.

  • @aamuwirkku
    @aamuwirkku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about this one: "Vaihtelu virkistää," sanoi kissa, kun mummolla pöytää pyyhki. It means that the cat is wiping the table with a granny and saying that it is refreshing other way round 😂😂

  • @llssneN
    @llssneN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These videos are really funny :D the thing about idioms is you can't always translate them perfectly.. applies to all languages.

  • @hy1je388
    @hy1je388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Mikä laulaen tulee, se viheltäen menee" is actually old song by Irwin Goodman who was really popular back In the day.

    • @izzardclips9350
      @izzardclips9350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The saying is used in the song, but that's not where it originated. It's a much older saying.

  • @user-xc2oe5ds9j
    @user-xc2oe5ds9j 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I didn't know 50% of those and the only ones I actually use and say out loud are "vääntää rautalangasta" and "olla hukassa" :D This was an interesting video as always! It would also be interesting to see how you would react to Finnish dialects and if they would be understandable at all

  • @markcsikos2781
    @markcsikos2781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's always exciting to compare different cultures - I really enjoyed it. Actually we are in the same shoes I am living for 2 years in Helsinki too. Anyway when I tried my fresh-learnt sayings on my finnish girlfriend - she couldn't stop laughing. It was great fun - thanks to you!

  • @wombat4191
    @wombat4191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Itku pitkästä ilosta" can be continued with "pieru turhan naurannasta" which roughly translates to "a fart from unnecessary laughing". It kinda means the same thing as the first part, so it's often left out.
    I think it could be a bit of a humorous take on Kalevala poem form, in which one verse line is always 8 syllables long (like both sentences of this idiom are), and in Kalevala the same thing is often said twice in a two successive verse lines, but in different words.

  • @annelipohjonen6792
    @annelipohjonen6792 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You were actually doing better than you thought the transcriptions were bit off. But nice and chill video again thanks Dave.

  • @weleho
    @weleho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Some finnish sayings:
    (Jokin on) kive alla (eng. (Something is) under a stone) = something is very hard to find
    Elää kiven alla (eng. to live under a stone) = to not keep updated about new things, to know nothing about new things
    Parempi virsta väärään, kuin vaaksa varaa (eng. Better mail wrong (way) than inch to danger) = Better to do something the long way than the dangerous way
    Herran huomaan (eng. To lord's (god's) protection/hands)= To give up (in case you are not able to do anything about something) [can also be used to say someone died (pass away), then usually siirtyi herran huomaan]
    Huipulla tuulee (eng. Wind blows at the top) = it's hard to stay the best
    Vetää viimeinen henkäys (eng. To take the last breath) = to die
    Olla kuoleman kielissä (eng. be on the tongues of death) = to be almost dead
    Vanha kettu (eng. Old fox) = someone who's best days are over, but who hast still tricks up his sleeve
    Minkä nuorena oppii, sen vanhana taitaa = what you learn young, you are skilled in old age

  • @tiilenpaa.sarjis
    @tiilenpaa.sarjis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Olla kiven sisässä" (to be inside a rock) means "to be in prison".

  • @snobbingas189
    @snobbingas189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Kusta hunajaa" = "to piss honey" = to do somethin real nice (more often used sarcasticly)

  • @hellobaby1971
    @hellobaby1971 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You were just right about that living in the barn thing. Elää kuin pellossa is just that, the books translation was weird....

  • @Suomitikru
    @Suomitikru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey I really like the series, keep it up! I would love to see you try to translate or guess the sayings in English first though before reading it from the book. Would be awesome to see how many you get right :p

  • @randomhyyppa6495
    @randomhyyppa6495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ”Itku pitkästä ilosta” in my family was like when I had fun with my sister for whole evening and then got tired and cried

  • @matsukochan
    @matsukochan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use "Siinä ei kauan nokka tuhise" pretty often! My dad used to say that all the time.

  • @juu4618
    @juu4618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Respect to you cuz u have patiense to learn Finnish!!

  • @MrKevlarkent
    @MrKevlarkent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hukassa/hukka is something i use very often in finnish and swedish respectively, its a so called finlandism (something only used in finland, not in sweden), im sure cat has used that when shes spoken swedish alot

  • @janemiettinen5176
    @janemiettinen5176 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Lähti kuin hauki rannasta / Left like a pike from the shore”
    “Lähti kuin nappi paidasta / Left like a button from a shirt”
    “Lähti kuin kuppa Töölöstä / Left like syphilis from Töölö”
    Very hasty exit. Similar to “Ilman jarruja helvettiin / To hell without braking”. Which can also be taken like “to hell in a hand basket”-idiom in English.

  • @elava_paa6846
    @elava_paa6846 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Niin metsä vastaa kuin sinne huudetaan = you do stupid things and the you get punished

  • @Mothness
    @Mothness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That "olla hukassa" is very smart because it mean two thigs. 1. Being missing. 2. In Wolf.

  • @latexu9589
    @latexu9589 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:33 Yeah, I agree that's a little misleading. I means more like "you should get out of a bad situation even if you don't realize it yet".

  • @Make573
    @Make573 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually use plenty of those sayings in my daily life. A couple of them were quite outdated/weird, but it does fit for ocasion, like nucklefist on someones eye.

  • @etikkakurkku
    @etikkakurkku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Dave you should react to some Finnish dialects! They are interesting and some are quite funny too.

  • @Sheriffos
    @Sheriffos 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    can't wait the next part... best series with learning the finnish progress!

  • @watchcharmedagain
    @watchcharmedagain 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love hearing your takes because they actually make almost more sense than the originals, haha. It's funny to realize just how odd our sayings are...

  • @anukoo87
    @anukoo87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh and there seems to be a lot of opinions what the "itku pitkästä ilosta" means, and I think it´s about the fact that not everything can always be fun, in life there´s usually tougher times too and not just sunshine. :)

  • @HonnePerkele
    @HonnePerkele 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It would have been better if those translations were covered as well, so you could take for example 4 points by guessing only by reading it in Finnish.

  • @Hukkahanska
    @Hukkahanska 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Olla herran kukkarossa" means "To be well protected" in my opinion.

  • @heddja
    @heddja ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i'm finnish and it's embarrassing to admit that i haven't even got half of these right. I heard similar words but in different order, very confusing.

  • @kati_217
    @kati_217 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your style on making video is very pleasant. Great to hear a foreigner learn Finnish.keep up

  • @godofthehens
    @godofthehens ปีที่แล้ว

    "Itku pikastä ilosta" was suprising for me .. Estonian version would "pill tuleb pika ilu peale" which litteral would be "cry (or musical instrument) comes after a long beauty"😃

  • @tietosanakirja
    @tietosanakirja ปีที่แล้ว

    "Niin metsä vastaa kuin sinne huudetaan":
    You reap what you sow... but where crops grow slowly, the echo from a forrest returns instantly.
    If you treat someone badly, they will return in kind.

  • @SLRNT
    @SLRNT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12:30 Homma hanskassa ja hanska hukassa / The business is in the glove and the glove in a wolf

  • @hepe71
    @hepe71 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like you a lot! Never realized that our every day sayings are so strange" :)

  • @LyfjaSSB
    @LyfjaSSB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just a couple off the top of my head.
    Hänellä ei ole puhtaita jauhoja pussissaan = they don't have clean flour in their bag --> someone is up to something bad or is hiding something.
    Ei ole koiraa karvoihin katsominen = there's no looking into a dog's fur --> don't judge a book by its cover.
    Tällä punaisella sekunnilla = on this red second --> right now.
    Sano minun sanoneen = say that I've said it --> mark my words.
    Ei mennyt ihan kuten Strömsössä = didn't pan out quite like in Strömsö --> that didn't turn out as expected.
    There are still a ton more but I'm too tired to think of any more right now lol

  • @Pahis1
    @Pahis1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Hyvä kello kauas kuuluu , paha paljon kauemmas" reminded me of one of my favourite jokes which explains it perfectly (language warning).
    "You see that dock out there? Built it myself, hand crafted each piece, and it's the best dock in town! But do they call me "McGregor the dock builder"? No! And you see that bridge over there? I built that, took me two months, through rain, sleet and scoarching weather, but do they call me "McGregor the bridge builder"? No! And you see that pier over there, I built that, best pier in the county! But do they call me "McGregor the pier builder"? No! But you fuck one sheep..."
    (Version stolen from redditor ianmccoy)

  • @0MasterOfHorror0
    @0MasterOfHorror0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a Finn myself, I haven't ever heard the ladleful one before. My guess was that 'don't be greedy'

  • @Dinariina
    @Dinariina 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a Finn and at last half of these idioms I quessed wrong. :)

  • @maunohorttanainen5450
    @maunohorttanainen5450 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:57 You should always answer: "No, I was born in a hospital with automatic doors"

  • @ventusastrea3850
    @ventusastrea3850 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see people often saying: "konstit on monet sanoi akka(or mummo), joka kissalla pöytää pyyhki. But I have not seen many who say the second part of it, which is: " vaihtelu virkistää sanoi kissa, joka akalla pöytää pyyhki"

  • @onboard3
    @onboard3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best part of this was "further", learned it same as you. Americans say that almost same as "father" and it's 😬 "Can you run father than father?". I'm fine with "moist" that many people seem to hate, but can't take no more father futhers 😁

    • @Qrofol
      @Qrofol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      'Farther' and 'further' are actually two different words in American English. The difference (usually) being that 'farther' is used when talking about physical distance and 'further' when it is about metaphorical or figurative distance. They are often used interchangeably though and especially by Brits.

    • @onboard3
      @onboard3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Qrofol Ah cheers, the more you know :)

  • @Nanally90
    @Nanally90 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Homma hanskassa, hanska hukassa. *The business is in the glove, the glove is lost*

  • @antlamaki1108
    @antlamaki1108 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ''Olla kuin Herran kukkarossa''('kuin' was left off in the book) means more like to be in a good or a safe place.

  • @onesweettwister
    @onesweettwister 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    DO YOU KNOW that the Grandma idiom continues? It has a second part!! And it's EVEN BETTER

  • @Perkele_Itse
    @Perkele_Itse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's weird and funny at the same time watching these, as I know most of them but for some reason I can't explain what they mean :D
    Oh and some of these could definitely use some re-translations. Some of them are just wrong in my opinion.

  • @nyyminuolivaara
    @nyyminuolivaara 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kaikki loppuu aikanaan = Everything must come to an end. Kaikelle on aikansa = There's time for everything. Aika aikaansa kutakin. = It was fun while it last. / It had it's own time but I'm ready to move on.

  • @okotta1234
    @okotta1234 ปีที่แล้ว

    there was already a comment about this. But "ei saa jäädä tuleen makaamaan. " One mustnt stay lying in the fire, means gunfire, not actual fire. So you shouldnt stay lying in the gunfire, but you must try to go on. Cause lying in gunfire will get you killed in war. So it just means to move on, to carry on, to try and make the next step.

  • @annesanila
    @annesanila 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Ei saa jäädä tulee makaamaan" - Lehto (näyttelijä/skådespelare Åke Lindman)
    WW II well known classic finnish war story
    aka 'Tuntematon sotilas' the 'Unknown soldier' - Väinö Linna
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuntematon_sotilas
    fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuntematon_sotilas_(t%C3%A4smennyssivu)
    The actual from front-line by my father ...

  • @nicas901
    @nicas901 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    the dislikes are not fans of Matti. poor guy

  • @raitajokinen4076
    @raitajokinen4076 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use "Aika aikaansa kutakin" (also just: "aikansa kutakin") a lot. "Itku pitkästä ilosta" is also very much used especially because I have a little kid and she sometimes plays so wildly that she ends up hurting herself, thus, "crying from long fun"! Another one I use a lot is "seistä tumput suorina", "vääntää rautalangasta", "kuin kaksi marjaa", "olla hukassa", "siinä ei kauan nokka tuhise" and "hätä ei ole tämän näköinen". I also want to add that the meaning in "niin metsä vastaa kuin sinne huudetaan" is the same as in the saying "niin makaa kuin petaa" which means "you've made your bed, now lie in it".