Ofc it makes sense. What is the alternative? That the terran made a MISTAKE flying his CC into a cloud of bcs and has to admit it? Not gonna happen haha
There was one game where I got lucky as hell and was called a hacker. Told him yeah in your shoes I would think so also, but you just got stupidly unlucky. He told me to f off and he was going to report me and I stopped feeling guilty about getting so lucky.
I laughed at the irony of Marc at the start of the match talking about the star decal "brightening the mood". The juxtaposition between that and the verbal diarrhea of insults his opponent hurled later made for a good chuckle.
And you were such a good sport to that last player! Complementing them, empathizing with their play. Insane that they ended with such venom. I wish I could see someone reacting to Marc's commentary of their play.
Having a 40mins+ vid makes it easy to organize it as "my daily hour of chill after work" instead of a "oh i have nothing else to do". Great as always, keep up the good work.
@@ContriveAI It's honestly fine, unless the community changed a LOT, most will help me out figure out the new metas and such. I stoped playing back in WoL
@@JoTaTheBerserker I quit in WoL also; just checked in this week to see whats kicking. ill save you some time... The new meta: content creators made it "cool" to smurf newer players and their community joined in to the point there are no new players and the game died. Based on what I saw, you can pretty much count on 1/3 of your games to be an addict smurf running you over and telling you to get good. it genuinely makes them happy to make you mad. Of course the devs poured fuel on the dumpster fire by ignoring this, and strictly balancing/patching according to pro play. It only took them 10+ years to finally release a "community" patch a few months ago. Better late than never? no... just too late. Rumor has it a few of the devs left to start their own variant. Thats SC last hope.
@@ContriveAI I played SC BW for like 10 years, then no RTS for the last 10 years. I have tried to get into SC2 like 5 times in the last year, and exactly as you said, super demoralizing to lose every game in bronze to these super-smurfs. I want to play more, but I feel like I cant ever even learn my build because I am getting aggro'd every 5 seconds by high apm plays in bronze.
well i just got back into SC2 after not playing for years and almost no obvious smurfs over 200+ games... think yall are being delusional. winrate just abovce 50% and im not great lol still in gold/plat
Thank you! An option for BC+Mine: Rush mines, to locking-down your main base, while your scouting SCV sets-up a FAR-corner proxy-CC, then proxy Starport there -> BC from corner-location, can retreat back into Mines, retreat again to a PF at your proxy.
I think you're on track with the series thing that you're talking about, I really like the ESL content, I hope you don't neglect that, ESL while choosing from your challenge builds or other hijinx is quite good. Edit: Just finished the third game and was psyched to see more, this episode is really good and I'm quite happy there are more games than I expected
Awesome to get to see longer vids again. Not to mention it's really cool that uThermal wants to help other players become unleashed. Badass term btw and I think it could or maybe should be a segment.
Uthermal2 is great I like the interaction with chat. I don’t have a lot of time to watch twitch but love catching the highlights. Should be a best of your twitch streams, you spend a lot of time on twitch, put the best content from there up and make the most of your time. Ggs
I love watching BC Mine because of the chess game that can be set up! Once you get a reading for how they like to engage and retreat, you can decimate them with waiting mine fields before they can even close for a real fight. Or if you know how hard they'll chase you, just set up traps to run to every time they get fed up and aggressive. It's beautiful lol. Such good mind games.
Really enjoying the longer episodes and deeper focus on each series! Just wish Proxy PF got the same kind of love, but it was unbelievably epic regardless. Keep it up! 🖤
I always loved TLO playing random in a major tournament, then people complained, was spectacular. Random players might not always have the tightest builds but often I find you get some interesting matches with the mismatched timings. Thanks for the content.
33:07 there's another reason people often scan when you scan (which I've noticed you doing as well) which is that now they know you've used the scan and paid the cost, they can do so as well without getting behind.
I love how in that first game Thermy did the build, scouted the all-in and reacted without giving it any conscious thought at all, he was talking about irrelevant stuff the entire time. Sick.
For me, I don't need you to limit your marines that hard for me to enjoy the series. If you're using lots of window mines and BCs, I consider the challenge successful. Ultimately, I'm interested in how these comps can be viable at the highest level, and obviously that will include synergies with other types of units.
For me limiting it does make sense because it highlights the strengths and weaknesses of those units. Being forced to play around those then better demonstrates how to use them
I greatly prefer the longer videos, less often is unavailable if you don't want to burn out. Honestly I'm impressed with just how much content you already make! Loving the second channel, only recently discovered it, but it is well worth checking out, especially if you have been arround long enough to remember the older challenges:)
I love your content. That score counter up top takes up valuable screen real estate. Sometimes the action happens right there. Is there any way to turn that off like after the first minute of each game?
Hi Marc, as you asked on our opinions, you might try something similar to Harstem - He has a different topic/video for the different days of the week. E.g. Monday - BC mine to GM, Tuesday - Planetary rush etc. This way we would know what to expect for each day of the week and you would be able to track our interest on the different topics and challenges.
After the end of the game, can you rewind back to show the good window mine hits that you only watched on the mini map? Isn't it better to split up the mines when walking into their mineral patches, so there's not a safe evacuation route for their probes? (1st game)
The more you move and the more your opponent moves, the more you are likely to come accross each other in the map. I also don't like losing but this tabula rasa unawareness of the situation is what I can't comprehend.
23:29 Can an overlord even place a Nydus further than a mine can shoot? Thermie was moving a bunch of mines around saying "oh we are terrified of a Nydus in the main" (points at dark northern corner of main), but wouldn't a couple of mines be effective, especially if the Nydus poops out a bunch of units in a tight group?
We have a saying: words fly away but what is written stays. So, the whispers at the end will stay forever. I wish he just broke the monitor instead. Sorry for him/her. This reminded me of my 8 mins 8 carriers trial, when the guy blamed me a hacker back in days, starcraft brood war. Great content uthermal, keep pushing!
40 minutes of uthermal? well if you insist :D edit: cool how you're going to focus on doing a couple of series at once on this channel. On your uthermal2 channel as you asked for a bit of feedback, I was a bit confused till I watched some videos from it and they were just as much fun! Could tell the difference as you seemed a bit more relaxed and having fun with chat which was really cool to see plus the wheel which just means you get to revisit past series which was genius move and great to watch. It's like you're good at strategy or something! tl;dr love both channels m8!
Challenge idea: you don’t know what you will do before the game starts. At the load in screen you spin three wheels. A wheel for which unit you can build from barracks, factory, and starport. So you can only have an army composition with one random unit from each production building. The only thing would be you could make one thing that shoots up if you spin ground attack units only and your opponent goes air.
I don’t get it. He saw your swarm of mines and BCs long before the CC got there. Why did he keep flying it in and why did he think you somehow ambushed him by map hacking when he had plenty of time to just reverse direction?
I think the timing of the bc attack coincided with him queing his cc and workers to the expansion. Of course, uthermal is just checking the opponent, and the dude didn't need to fly the cc to certain doom.
Couldn't be preparing the an attack just happened to be at the same time. Has to be he's hacking! He's too good! (In a way he's right, uThernal is way too good to be that MMR lol)
I would appreciate the mentioned changes to your channel(s). And the longer episoded are really appreciated. :) Love your content, stay awesome brother! :D
ill watch whatever you got uThermal. Keep up the awesome work! (and obviously its youtube, and you reached the point where there could be a couple rotten apples, but 99% are completely fine with whatever) Dont burn out! Have fun! We will be cheering you on all the way. SC streamers/creators are great and its not a competition, its a community.
Great series, brotha. Not sure if you already do this but. If I may add a suggestion to your videos, if you can explain what the opponent messed up and what he could do to improve/counter your builds.
Thinking of a new challenge, mirroring BC and Widow mine, on the Protoss, Immortal and Phoenix? Immortals are your hard hitters, maybe with a warp prism to make it versatile. Phoenixes control the skies and immobilise high value ground targets to make your immortals survive better and destroy better
Bar code names is a way for people to hide who they are and if they don't like how things are going they can be as salty as they want cause you don't know who they are. It shows you how mature they are.
I might not playing SC2 anymore (just playing campaign in SC and SC2), but there are two things that I always love. Battlecruisers and nuke. And so, I'm certain that I will like this challenge!
The map at 37:00 priorty hsould be rich gas, simply because its so valuable for your production.... on the other hand f2 works well with widow mines, lol
hello again! crazy thought (for the memez) build a tech add on instead of a reactor, swap to starport, you get a few marines? why not combat shields for the five elite before battle cruisers
I personally love the longer episodes, especially with the new challenges. For the fewer series running in parallel I think it's fine if you have more, but I get the point, so 2-3 might be better for coherence.
To the barcode: I think ladder is not like a tournament in that you have to "read" your opponent. Ladder is more like a training and a personal climbing and you have to play clean against every opponent so barcodes just dont want you to have an advantage by countering their strategy... Nobody would name themself to their strategy like "2 base all in siegetank" but that is essentially what a game against someone you know would become if he wouldnt be allowed to barcode
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I'm just going to fly my CC into a cloud of BCs and then call hax when they kill it. Makes sense.
Was looking for this comment 🎉
Ofc it makes sense. What is the alternative? That the terran made a MISTAKE flying his CC into a cloud of bcs and has to admit it? Not gonna happen haha
How did I know your CC was coming? I didn’t. You flew it into my vision, and then I shot at it.
@@imlyt1518 Hey dont talk shit about terrans.
The greatest compliment a legit player can receive is to be accused of being a hacker.
It is known.
It's like getting accused of aimbotting in an FPS, it feels amazing.
i used to go to a lan house close by back in the times.. best feeling was watching grown ups rage quit agains a 15yo boy in cs 1.6 X )
I find it funny when they call someone a brain dead monkey and then lose to said 'brain dead monkey'.
There was one game where I got lucky as hell and was called a hacker. Told him yeah in your shoes I would think so also, but you just got stupidly unlucky. He told me to f off and he was going to report me and I stopped feeling guilty about getting so lucky.
Loving the content!
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I was the 69th like
everybody wants to 69 uThermal nowadays
Woo salt and Battlecruisers! Can't get much better than this.
I laughed at the irony of Marc at the start of the match talking about the star decal "brightening the mood".
The juxtaposition between that and the verbal diarrhea of insults his opponent hurled later made for a good chuckle.
i like the change back to fewer simultanous challenges, shorter overall duration of challenges and longer episodes.
Very nice episode!
And you were such a good sport to that last player! Complementing them, empathizing with their play. Insane that they ended with such venom. I wish I could see someone reacting to Marc's commentary of their play.
38:00 the better question is "Why was the CC still coming, when he saw 4 bc ? " )))
Because that barcode guy hacked his owned brain
Oh yeah I have better, who is C *insert marvel joke*
Subscribing to Marc's channel basically provides infinite value as you can just keep teleporting back to it.
Having a 40mins+ vid makes it easy to organize it as "my daily hour of chill after work" instead of a "oh i have nothing else to do". Great as always, keep up the good work.
Marc: *focused in explaining community related topics*
*Makes insane reaper's mine micro*😂
it was so clean, i was like damn
This man is slowly getting me back into the game I loved the most throughout my entire life haha
bahahhaaa!! be prepared to be run over by smurfs just like him. they ran off all the new players so thats all thats left.
@@ContriveAI It's honestly fine, unless the community changed a LOT, most will help me out figure out the new metas and such. I stoped playing back in WoL
@@JoTaTheBerserker I quit in WoL also; just checked in this week to see whats kicking. ill save you some time... The new meta: content creators made it "cool" to smurf newer players and their community joined in to the point there are no new players and the game died.
Based on what I saw, you can pretty much count on 1/3 of your games to be an addict smurf running you over and telling you to get good. it genuinely makes them happy to make you mad.
Of course the devs poured fuel on the dumpster fire by ignoring this, and strictly balancing/patching according to pro play. It only took them 10+ years to finally release a "community" patch a few months ago. Better late than never? no... just too late.
Rumor has it a few of the devs left to start their own variant. Thats SC last hope.
@@ContriveAI I played SC BW for like 10 years, then no RTS for the last 10 years. I have tried to get into SC2 like 5 times in the last year, and exactly as you said, super demoralizing to lose every game in bronze to these super-smurfs. I want to play more, but I feel like I cant ever even learn my build because I am getting aggro'd every 5 seconds by high apm plays in bronze.
well i just got back into SC2 after not playing for years and almost no obvious smurfs over 200+ games... think yall are being delusional. winrate just abovce 50% and im not great lol still in gold/plat
"HOW U KNOW CC WAS COMING!?"
You flew it directly into the battle field...
It's like ringing the bell and wondering why someone opened the door.
Thank you!
An option for BC+Mine: Rush mines, to locking-down your main base, while your scouting SCV sets-up a FAR-corner proxy-CC, then proxy Starport there -> BC from corner-location, can retreat back into Mines, retreat again to a PF at your proxy.
the changes in the schedule make total sense. Also excited for the longer videos.
edit: 20:45 that grenade was legendary :o
I think you're on track with the series thing that you're talking about, I really like the ESL content, I hope you don't neglect that, ESL while choosing from your challenge builds or other hijinx is quite good.
Edit: Just finished the third game and was psyched to see more, this episode is really good and I'm quite happy there are more games than I expected
I love longer episodes!! ❤ u uthermal
and 2 challenges running at the same time is perfect
Love when they get salty
I love the channel changes, I really appreciate having new videos for each series closer together. Thanks for the great content!
Thanks!
uThermal, well known hacker
To be fair it's a good codename too for a hacker.
Awesome to get to see longer vids again. Not to mention it's really cool that uThermal wants to help other players become unleashed. Badass term btw and I think it could or maybe should be a segment.
Some kids need to learn to just enjoy the game lol
Uthermal2 is great I like the interaction with chat. I don’t have a lot of time to watch twitch but love catching the highlights. Should be a best of your twitch streams, you spend a lot of time on twitch, put the best content from there up and make the most of your time. Ggs
bro we wouldve really appreciated a well timed counter "??" for this sweet barcode! :D
!!!
I love watching BC Mine because of the chess game that can be set up! Once you get a reading for how they like to engage and retreat, you can decimate them with waiting mine fields before they can even close for a real fight. Or if you know how hard they'll chase you, just set up traps to run to every time they get fed up and aggressive. It's beautiful lol. Such good mind games.
this dude's "warmup game" is where he absolutely wipes the floor with his opponent 💀
29:25: That's a sick tactic.
39:52: Climax achieved.
@uThermal - I am grateful for any content you make. Thanks a lot and remember to concentrate on what’s best for you. Cheers
Really enjoying the longer episodes and deeper focus on each series! Just wish Proxy PF got the same kind of love, but it was unbelievably epic regardless. Keep it up! 🖤
I always loved TLO playing random in a major tournament, then people complained, was spectacular.
Random players might not always have the tightest builds but often I find you get some interesting matches with the mismatched timings.
Thanks for the content.
me: tries to hide fusion core as best as possible, idealy on another map
Marc: yeah I just want to make a fusion core as a part of the wall. 🧐
anything involving the BC is just always good entertainment
When you first started the series, I think you said that medivacs were okay. So that you could do mine drops.
He did.
Remember auto-repair scv in a medivac
33:07 there's another reason people often scan when you scan (which I've noticed you doing as well) which is that now they know you've used the scan and paid the cost, they can do so as well without getting behind.
I love how in that first game Thermy did the build, scouted the all-in and reacted without giving it any conscious thought at all, he was talking about irrelevant stuff the entire time. Sick.
For me, I don't need you to limit your marines that hard for me to enjoy the series. If you're using lots of window mines and BCs, I consider the challenge successful. Ultimately, I'm interested in how these comps can be viable at the highest level, and obviously that will include synergies with other types of units.
For me limiting it does make sense because it highlights the strengths and weaknesses of those units. Being forced to play around those then better demonstrates how to use them
Agreed.
I'm glad to see someone take underrated strategies and take them to the professional level. Weird strategies are the reason I play strategy games!
I greatly prefer the longer videos, less often is unavailable if you don't want to burn out. Honestly I'm impressed with just how much content you already make!
Loving the second channel, only recently discovered it, but it is well worth checking out, especially if you have been arround long enough to remember the older challenges:)
Wow man you're so damn good at this. Thanks for sharing the gameplay, it's fun to see.
I love your content.
That score counter up top takes up valuable screen real estate.
Sometimes the action happens right there.
Is there any way to turn that off like after the first minute of each game?
Bump!
Agreed. He could also move it and make it a small bar at the bottom right above the cam
Hi Marc, as you asked on our opinions, you might try something similar to Harstem - He has a different topic/video for the different days of the week. E.g. Monday - BC mine to GM, Tuesday - Planetary rush etc. This way we would know what to expect for each day of the week and you would be able to track our interest on the different topics and challenges.
Down for longer videos man your the best content on here for me for over a year 🙏
I'm a Terran main finally got into diamond watching your style!
After the end of the game, can you rewind back to show the good window mine hits that you only watched on the mini map?
Isn't it better to split up the mines when walking into their mineral patches, so there's not a safe evacuation route for their probes? (1st game)
The more you move and the more your opponent moves, the more you are likely to come accross each other in the map.
I also don't like losing but this tabula rasa unawareness of the situation is what I can't comprehend.
23:29 Can an overlord even place a Nydus further than a mine can shoot? Thermie was moving a bunch of mines around saying "oh we are terrified of a Nydus in the main" (points at dark northern corner of main), but wouldn't a couple of mines be effective, especially if the Nydus poops out a bunch of units in a tight group?
Love the videos! Thanks for the longer upload. When you decide to go to a new game I'll watch you there too.
We have a saying: words fly away but what is written stays. So, the whispers at the end will stay forever. I wish he just broke the monitor instead. Sorry for him/her. This reminded me of my 8 mins 8 carriers trial, when the guy blamed me a hacker back in days, starcraft brood war. Great content uthermal, keep pushing!
The beautiful Viking explosion at the end. Masterpiece
34:45 respect for being the bigger man, Marc
40 minutes of uthermal? well if you insist :D
edit: cool how you're going to focus on doing a couple of series at once on this channel. On your uthermal2 channel as you asked for a bit of feedback, I was a bit confused till I watched some videos from it and they were just as much fun! Could tell the difference as you seemed a bit more relaxed and having fun with chat which was really cool to see plus the wheel which just means you get to revisit past series which was genius move and great to watch. It's like you're good at strategy or something! tl;dr love both channels m8!
Danke!
Congratz on 100k!
Thank you for changing your format back to the old one :).
"Let me escape on 4 hp for fun"
uThrillseek
I literally scream from laughter whenever people rage in games. I think I'm psycho, but its so hilarious
@40:09 - that is well thought out SALT.
39:53 *chefs kiss*
Challenge idea: you don’t know what you will do before the game starts. At the load in screen you spin three wheels. A wheel for which unit you can build from barracks, factory, and starport. So you can only have an army composition with one random unit from each production building.
The only thing would be you could make one thing that shoots up if you spin ground attack units only and your opponent goes air.
The new schedule sounds great!
I don’t get it. He saw your swarm of mines and BCs long before the CC got there. Why did he keep flying it in and why did he think you somehow ambushed him by map hacking when he had plenty of time to just reverse direction?
I think the timing of the bc attack coincided with him queing his cc and workers to the expansion. Of course, uthermal is just checking the opponent, and the dude didn't need to fly the cc to certain doom.
Couldn't be preparing the an attack just happened to be at the same time. Has to be he's hacking! He's too good!
(In a way he's right, uThernal is way too good to be that MMR lol)
I would appreciate the mentioned changes to your channel(s). And the longer episoded are really appreciated. :) Love your content, stay awesome brother! :D
Love the upcoming changes to the channel!
ill watch whatever you got uThermal. Keep up the awesome work! (and obviously its youtube, and you reached the point where there could be a couple rotten apples, but 99% are completely fine with whatever) Dont burn out! Have fun! We will be cheering you on all the way. SC streamers/creators are great and its not a competition, its a community.
I enjoy the channel and look forward to the programming adjustment!
Hey @uThermal, did you change your mic setup? for some reason this video was a bit more occluded for me. Might just be me though.
uThermal legit one of the best sports announcers in sports broadcasting. period.
Great series, brotha. Not sure if you already do this but. If I may add a suggestion to your videos, if you can explain what the opponent messed up and what he could do to improve/counter your builds.
Thinking of a new challenge, mirroring BC and Widow mine, on the Protoss, Immortal and Phoenix?
Immortals are your hard hitters, maybe with a warp prism to make it versatile. Phoenixes control the skies and immobilise high value ground targets to make your immortals survive better and destroy better
Totally on-board with less series at the same time, I also felt list sometimes.
Keep on keeping on, uThermal the well known Hack!
I'm on board for the changes. Love the longer videos!
2:40 Maybe in the description of the channel you should have this information ? Both channels and links.
"Now I just burrow these mine here, and just fly into the main" No one knows his CC's coming.
Good move with the channel. More focus is always good.
That Salt at the end was absolutely hillarious!!
Good one !! It's good that you separete challenges and ladder games ! keep it up ^^
i like 45min episodes. i watch your vids in the background a lot so its just easier and better for me.
Even when I replay the video I have difficulties spotting the distortion of the observer. You have some magic glasses my man XD
Bar code names is a way for people to hide who they are and if they don't like how things are going they can be as salty as they want cause you don't know who they are. It shows you how mature they are.
I might not playing SC2 anymore (just playing campaign in SC and SC2), but there are two things that I always love. Battlecruisers and nuke. And so, I'm certain that I will like this challenge!
That reaper grenade micro was one of your best to keep the SCV alive!
BC and Mine looks like a legit strategy. Enjoying the series
Here's the ultimate challenge. pick a challenge for each race, and then to Random to GM, using the challenge for each race.
39:55
fireworks
The map at 37:00 priorty hsould be rich gas, simply because its so valuable for your production.... on the other hand f2 works well with widow mines, lol
hello again! crazy thought (for the memez) build a tech add on instead of a reactor, swap to starport, you get a few marines? why not combat shields for the five elite before battle cruisers
Don’t care what you do, just keep putting out StarCraft content. It’s awesome.
Love the longer videos! 🙌
perfect changes! love it.
Love these two new series!
the salt was strong with this one... love this challenge btw widow mines are awesome when they pop off
Get this man to 100k 👏🏾
enjoyed the longer episode. As always, appreciate your positivity!
I personally love the longer episodes, especially with the new challenges.
For the fewer series running in parallel I think it's fine if you have more, but I get the point, so 2-3 might be better for coherence.
To the barcode:
I think ladder is not like a tournament in that you have to "read" your opponent. Ladder is more like a training and a personal climbing and you have to play clean against every opponent so barcodes just dont want you to have an advantage by countering their strategy...
Nobody would name themself to their strategy like "2 base all in siegetank" but that is essentially what a game against someone you know would become if he wouldnt be allowed to barcode
Omg that salt was so pure 🤣
Beautiful 👌
Get this man to 100k!
In diamond I can tell you that first build is one that happens all the time. Super early pressure then straight to DT tech
I enjoy watching you handle late game units
I like the longer vids on here especially after work