Bought one of these a year ago. Had a Fazer800 before. Wow, what a difference! Every time I climb on I get the grin factor; it does everything! I'm mostly an about town rider so was worried it would be heavy and wobbly, not the case at all; it's happy weaving at low speed. I really love this bike. Get over the looks (how often do you see the front anyway?) and go out and enjoy it; I certainly do!
Picking mine up this week. The red and black one. I think it's a gorgeous bike in person. I'm so ready for one of these sport touring bikes and this one seems the best for the money as well. Love this bike. I rode my friends and fell in love with it. If it had rider modes it would be perfect but it does have traction control and that's fine with me. You're right, you can't turn off the ABS but for touring around with that kind of power ABS is a good thing. It's so powerful but smooth as butter. I could ride it for 5 hours straight very comfortably. Good review. Nice bike.
Love Suzuki, mechanically there's something very complete about them. As you say everything just works, which is something you don't appreciate until you try something Italian (I've just swapped my GSXR750 for a Ducati Monster 1200) haha! That being said, I really wish they'd hire a decent designer and jump on the super naked bandwagon. Current GSXR1000R without fairings and a sharper design would sell by the sh*t load.
Greetings, Chop! I enjoyed this piece very much. I like your enthusiasm! It seemed like you really got on well with this bike. It is certainly growing on me. I ride a 2011 GSX1250FA, which I bought new and is an absolute missile! And though she is showing no signs of slowing down, she is getting older. The more I see of this bike the more I think it would be a fine replacement for my trusty FA should that day ever come. So thank you for the honest review. No, it's not a Tuono V4, or a Super Duke, or a fill-in-the-blank! But for what I am doing, it's perfect. Initial buy-in is low, it's comfortable, upgradeable, performs great and will be cheaper to operate. And I happen to love the look. It's a great value for sure.
good and honest review mate, i bought one 2 years ago after trying the mt10 and ktm 1290gt, both very good bikes but the zook is a better all rounder in my opinion, the mt i took out nearly ran out off fuel on the test ride after doing only 100 odd miles the zook will do 160 odd to the tank and i found the gt to vibey and expensive ,yes they were a tad faster but not by much
I own a 2016, after many other bikes. I wanted the versatility that the fairing and protection adds over the naked for long miles on the freeway. It's the best bike I've owned by far. Super comfort, great power everywhere, a sound that is absolutely intoxicating. The snatchy throttle seems to vary from bike to bike, but mine doesn't have it (and I knew about the problem before hand and test rode mine before purchase) I was initially thinking of a Ducati SS, or Honda VFR, but when I saw this bike, I wanted to give it a try, and I'm glad I did. It ticks all of the boxes for me.. The looks? I absolutely love the look of my Triton Blue. I've put on bar end mirrors, a tinted shield, some frame sliders, and if you don't like the way it looks... you suck. ;)
Mines a 2016 and I'm amazed the fuelling on yours isnt snatchy, the fuel maps are mostly the same on all bikes and mine is definitely snatchy especially mid-corner, and I've got a fuelling unit to smooth the map out, and its still not great. It's a known problem and mostly the fault of the euro4 exhaust and the fact its a 10 year old engine in a 2016 bike. The 2016 bike also shakes it's head under hard acceleration and has a known stalling problem (the new bike has anti-stall). The 2016 ABS bike also releases the brakes if you hit a small pothole, which is scary. Lots of issues, not a great package, but fun at speed, but not worth the money. The brakes are soft too, needing half the travel before they bite, meaning two finger braking is out. It can be hard work this bike. The S1000r is better.
@@markmywords312 I am the same bike, and the brakes are magnificent one finger can do the trick. My fueling is snitchy, I switched out the throttle for the katana throttle and that did improve it. This bike has Brembo brakes 145 horsepower an amazing seating position and sounds like a Formula One car and you don't like it and don't think it's event a stick deal for the money? You did wrong. Vantastic bike for the money
I am in America, and I own a 2016 version of this bike. I love the upright position, the higher handlebars and the overall more comfortable seating position as compared to other sport bikes. I think the throttle is too snatchy, I was thinking about getting a booster plug.
You seam to be loving this GSX1000F Chop’s I think it makes a cracking sports tourer for the less senior rider. I like it myself but it feels a bit small for me as i am 20 stone and 76 years young😁😁
I have a 2016 naked version and I put a racing windscreen on mine and it knocks the wind right over my helmet, if I set straight up and stretch I can feel it then in my face but if I set normal I can cruise fast as I want on interstate no problem! It is light feeling still but that’s what makes it quick! I got mine turned up to 150hp and weight down to 439lbs! It may be even less now. I just did a tail tidy got rid of that mess in the back, it’s now just a small yoshi plate frame and light and nice pointy tail like a proper sport bike! Really helps the looks to!
I have a blue and black one, ecu done at msg running lextek downpipes and yoshi r11 exhaust puts out 162bhp, just had suspension done front and back nitron r1 shock ktech fork springs. It's my everyday bike. The only thing left to do is change the seat as the standard one is very hard
I have a 2016 in red and black. Full Yoshimura exhaust, power commander, K and N filter,has been dyno tuned it goes like stink but it chews the fuel lucky if I get 220kms per tank. I personally love the way this bike looks.
Nice vid chops. I test rode one and the kwak sx. Went for the kwak as I just couldn't get over the looks of the suzi. Great bike to ride though. Looks are personal thing.
Just a quick question: how does this bike qualify as a “naked” ?? It has a fairing. Don’t get me wrong, I love the bike and would love to have one but aren’t “naked” bikes unfaired sport bikes with better ergonomics for the street?
The issue with the front breaks over time is that they make a howling sound. Only slight but is a manufacturing fault with the discs. Only with this model the GSXR does not have this problem and the GSXS does. There are many forums with the same issue. Replacing the pads does not help. Just have to put up with it.
thanks! really loved your comment about the mechanical beauty of suzukis. just the way i feel about it. no frills, just solid motorcycling :-) greetings from austria!
Get my black and red one in 2 weeks, I've got to admit the demo ride I had yesterday was probably the best I've had on a sports bike, very good at everything and a bargain...I'm soooo looking forward to getting to know it properly, I think I'm in love, even with the crooked nose :)
I'm thinking bout purchasing the triton blue and metallic Black version of the bike,Your review helped alot.Yes it's basic looking but it has everything spot on for this Suzuki.Everything meshes just right.For 2018 you get the darker windshield in the States.Keep up the good work!!!
Thanks Johnny enjoy it. I have a video coming soon taking all the Suzuki bikes around a close track and the F did very well indeed. I knew it was a beast of a bike :-)
Always been a fan of Suzuki since I replaced a 78 Honda 750 back in 1980 with a GSX750. The Suzuki was a better bike all round, particularly the engine and gearbox.
I really enjoy your reviews. Easy to tell you are mad for motos and passion for your thing is very appealing to me. So thanks for a great review. Cheers.
Hi again, my 2018 snatch got worse with chain stretch which means it had to be adjusted frequently. It also couldn't keep a constant speed without hunting slightly, enough to be annoying. I gave up and put PC V and throttle tamer on and it is now very well behaved.Your right Suzuki couldn't get them inside the euro emissions without running them lean. Thats all the PC V map does is make it run richer all the way to about 7000 rpm.
It's a bonkers bike the top end pull on it will have you feeling like neo in the matrix mine wants to power wheelie at 10k in 1 2 and 3 but it's truly easy to ride it tamely around town. I picked one up brand new in 20 degree weather and drove it home slowly and nervously lol if you can control yourself and allow yourself to get comfortable before you try to ride it deep into the gears sure but the way this the exponentially makes power is a recipe for disaster if you don't have self control and know what you are doing.
I have owned a 2016 GSXS-S1000F for - well several years now - hands down the easiest, fun, & accessible of liter bikes. I've never understood the whole "twitchy throttle" complaint... you twist, you get instant power; anything else would be a delay. I heard the gearing is better on the 2018+ models though - thats my only, and I hate to even say the word "complaint", is that 4th, 5th, 6th, are to closely geared - but really, that's not even remotely a deal killer and apparently they fixed it. I agree with Lamb on everything on the review & as a personal owner, it's good to see even a pro knows its a great bike.
I did a test ride with MT09 and it was too agressive for me. How do you compare this one with MT09? I would go for GSX-S 750 but that one has no fairing. I am 186 cm tall, would it be OK for highway speed around 130-150 kmh. Thanks for your answer. I really appreciate your reviews.
I have been riding since 1983 so the whole “Naked” category didn’t exist when I started riding. Not sure this moto technically qualifies as "Naked" as it is a faired moto but that was kinda your point in the title.
I'm torn Ktm 790 duke or 1000f? to be used as a daily 60km 50-100 km/h roads round trip commuter in all weather heavy traffic peak hour to empty 4am roads on the way to work.... Both would be great but if I needed a do it all bike maybe the 1000f ?If I needed to do the odd 400km trip in a day it would be better option...In Australia there ride away price is about the same $16.5 k. Great dynamics, reliability, trump looks for me. Great review LCR of a dark horse bike thank you.
More like a supersport rather than a sports tourer. Great video matey. How did you find the throttle/fuelling. Did you get any jerkyyness when rolling on off throttle?
Its a little jerky around 7k on and off, but no more than normal Euro 4 setups. Pipe and a remap and it would be smooth as butter. Its not enough to put me off buying one
Hi I'm a 6ft 1ins rider. I road tested this bike as i was going to buy it.I also road tested the yamaha MT10 but I bought the Mt10 as it felt a little more roomy in the leg department. Which bike would have you gone for with you being a 6ft2ins tall rider.
Like the idea of this bike but needs face uplift and more characterful noise. lamb would you test a VFR 800 or second hand VFR1200 would like to hear what you think
another great video mate been my local bike shop today and they have some fantastic deals on these at the moment so thinking of getting one in the new year .
Would you sway more towards a 17 plate s1000xr or say a suzuki gsxs1000f? I'll only been using it for commuting and some long motorway miles to visit the Mrs, but with some b roads in between.
Nice review I’ve got one in the red black 2015 bit different to standard now Carbon wheels full system rapid bike + quick shifter upgraded suspension Excellent bike.😄😄😄
the headlight looks more impressive in mate gray paint. white are now arriving at MY2018. they should redesign it though...something like the ones from k5 to k7. those were amazingly great looking
To me it looks like they cut the front off a busa and stuck a GSXR rear end on it with like tall bars and a little dash like most new bikes! I love it and the ninja 1000 and I’m looking for a good deal on a slightly used one with like 1-5k miles that’s seems to be the sweat spot for new looking bikes that are isn’t broke In and had all the money spent on them so I can reap the benefits of “Mr I shouldn’t have bought a bike I hate it now”! Done found one 2k miles $6k already got all the extras I want like heated grips, exhaust, bags on both sides and a extra tall tinted wind screen! Oh and frame sliders if it ever does get knocked over by some a hole!
I own a 2016 in blue. Definitly had the ecu flash and even with just a yoshi alpha slip-on, this thing is a rocket. Lifts the wheel on demand and gets going. From what I understand, they make saddlebags for touring. The euro 4 mapping really ruined the bikes fueling and gave it a twitchy stuttering problem so the flash was a must but either way, it's a proper animal.
john stokes It definitly helped with the jerky throttle, I didn't see any real difference in mpg. I hear the 2018 model has an updated remapped ECU since everyone complained, Suzuki finally changed it. They even mention it in the brochure for the 2018.
john stokes My personal opinion, but it felt sketchy as shit going into corners and keeping the rpm stable until I learned the bike. It would have a delayed onset power, So I'd give it throttle and it would think for a second as I'm into the corner then, Bam, power would surge in and get a bit sketchy. Honestly the entire problem boils down to the bullshit euro emissions standards and it still uses a throttle cable which needed adjusting for sure. In the end, 4 stroke engines weren't designed to run with the standards they dreamed up. By no means would any of these issues deter me from buying the bike again. It's still fantastic, it just acts like a horse, you have to learn what she likes and work from there. The seating position is so much better and it has good safety features. She's a bad bitch and can be found for a good price because most people overlook it due to the front fairings but don't realize it's still a liter bike.
great breakdown bro. i watch so many of these videos and have been riding for years but i still dont know the lingo. lol so bottomline, an ecu reflash and ill be good? any specific kind of reflash or they'll know what to do?
So strange.. the Windshield is the most important thing. What is really interesting ist the torque on the middrange, this is the big question with Euro5. As most bikes lost the midrange (remember the Suzuki Bandit? It had over 100NMs @ 3700rmps). And this Suzuki is a brilliant bike except 2 things: The missing midrange at lower rpm and the (too wide) backtire.. A shame, as I do really like this bike but would never buy it with that torque in midrange..
Hi great reviews ,just out of interest do suzuki contact you to give you the long term bike to test or do you contact them and ask/beg/etc to borrow a bike from them many thanks mark
Thanks Mark, originally I contacted them. I think I was one of the first in the UK they lent bikes too. The complication is they have to add you to their insurance as its a fortune to try and insure a press bike yourself. Normally of course mags have their own cover so its not a problem. So they have to be invested that your going to work with them long term. I have a great relationship with them now so I can borrow whatever I like (very lucky) Cheers Chops
Hi chops. Good honest review of a bike that tends to slip under the radar. I believe it's power output is is 150 ps [148 hp] not 160hp. It's been around for 3 years or so now and most people are not too keen on the front end. Suzuki should restyle it to make it more pleasing to the eye but otherwise a good bike. By the way have you tried the new Honda CB1000R yet. I took one out for a test ride the other day and what a great bike it turned out to be. It's acceleration is absolutely mental. The fit and finish is superb and it looks great especially in red. It's about a grand more than the Suzuki but it's worth it with it's superior fit and finish and a single sided swing arm. I also think it is more grunty than the Suzuki. Try one if you get the chance. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised how good it is.
I had the 16 plate F, standard 143bhp, Flashed and decat 153bhp, the newer ones are 5bhp more. Got a K7 gsxr 1000 now with flat bars, so almost same as the F but more grunt.
They tend to make more power than stated by Suzuki if Suzuki claim 143bhp at the Crank.. They definatly under quote that as most stock ones make 135-140 on a dyno
You get it. Suzuki isn’t really innovating because they’re broke, but they’re otherwise criminally underrated. Their products are nearly perfected. They focused on details to make them better rather than making all new more expensive bikes. This model in particular is constantly overlooked at an absolutely unbelievable bargain for how much bike you get at $11k.
I wasn't quite sure what to think when i saw the bike. But oh my god i was giggling like a child for a solid 25 minutes on that test ride. Torque fo DAYYYSSS. Very smooth engine. Great sound. Good brakes. I loved it. Not really my styling preference, but man for how comfortable it is i could see it in my garage if i had the spare money for a longer distance bike.
Another informal review, 👍! I need to drive 45 minutes each way to work and need a good bike, is this my best choice???? I have the GSX-S1000 and crush the Tail of the Dragon 🐉 🐉 🐉 🐉 🐉
How tall are you? I like the fact that the windscreen pushes rhe air over ya head but im 190cm so i have issue with some screens pushing wind right into my helmet. Or even under the neckroll in smaller bikes
Bit of a wolf in sheeps clothing then eh? (Especially in white!) You’d think they’d shift loads of them for people of a certain age who don’t want a race replica but not ready for a bmw twin yet! 👍🏻😎
I am so confused. Bike weight was announced in kilos, speed in Miles, you are driving on the wrong side of the road the whole review, cars passing by on your right with steering wheels in the right, instead your bike throttle is on right hand and clutch in left hand just like normal bikes in the rest of the world. Just kidding man, congratulations for the excellent review. I am leaning towards buying a used one. Stay safe.
Man , I haven't commented in ages, but do still love your videos. What would you say ,this vs the naked? Commuter vs Hooligan or would you say both are about the same, aside from the wind resistance (and the snatchy throttle on the older GSXS1000 ).
Thanks WD, yes this really is exactly the same as the GSXS1000 naked but with a screen and some fairing. The new GSXS naked also had the throttle response sorted so it really is a case of if you want that wind protection or prefer the look of the naked
aight man. I went from a Naked GS 500 to a SV 650 S recently ,gotta say though the wind protection is quite nice. The more sporty seating position aint though. Might be looking at one of these in a couple of years or so. When prices (which are already low) come down even more. Thanks
There is some people out there thinking that suzuki are a joke but think again because they are the masters of endurance racing and have won more endurance championships than any other manufacturer since the early 80s and are fantastic bikes to own and ride.
thanks for the video. For wind protection at high speed, is it really that much better than the naked version? How about vs the tuono for wind protection?(obviously other differences)
Its very good, much more wind protection than the Tuono, you can cruise at 100 mph no problem without to much wind blast. The naked version has nothing, so its like my Super Duke 1290 80 mph is absolute maximum speed you can maintain for long periods.
Not sure about wind protection but I can tell you it’s a better bike lol I traded my gsxs 1000 for an mt09 worse decision lol I now ride a bmw s1000rr 😂
Hi LCR, I have a technical question : So this bike has a detuned 2005 GSXR K5 engine, can this be remapped using a power commander to ride like a GSXR/ sports bike?. I know some people claiming that using a Rapid bike module (Italian product) they were able to gain 15 hp in Aprilia Tuono. Is there any truth to this?
Hi Rocky, no its not just the map which has been changed from the GSXR spec, different cams, head porting etc etc to give it more torque. You can of course make good gains by doing the normal exhaust / remap route but it will never make GSXR power unless you rework the internals but then you loose the torque..
Alvara Curto I saw that entire episode, I didn't understand much but I think they swapped out some engine parts along with full yoshimura exhaust. I am going to check their website
Front View (Type F) is similar to Scooter, as light position is low. and Cheap bar Handle, which make so many hesitations. Suzuki Performance and reliance is super, But design is ,,,,,, ?????
IKR, but at one point every bike manufacturer just copies the same front end from Honda or Kawi i not sure but it just looks similar, that eyelash design thingy. i prefer each manufacturer design differently. example if you like GSXR front you probably like MV Agusta F3 F4 front cuz how similar it is, while many would prefer Honda Yamaha Kawi and Ducati front.
@@renorzeta I agree. As a design MV AGSTA F3 F4 front view is very nice, (Simple and cool face) It similar to the GSX-R 2017 y model Reg Design I heard Suzuki used to hire european designer very often. I am very interested in MV Agsta with its cool feature and stylish shape. But the neck is price and liabilities. If I were in Euro and F4 were in the same price range of Suzuki Yamaha, I shall no doubt try AGSTA F4
@@menmentantan5591 Yeah , if i have such money i could buy F4 Claudio and Super Veloce, but sadly im Broke. lul. F4 Claudio color scheme really spot on! GSX-R 2019 White-Black color aswell.
Front is plain ugly. I bought one new due to the engine, and I still haven't come across a bike with one that good or characterful. To me, it felt it would be solid and reliable and last for a long old time. Sold it because I was riding wayyyyyyy too fast on it. It really is a license killer. Granddaughter loved it, she kept asking me to overtake everything when she was on the back :-) So, message to Suzuki, change the front, leave the rest of the thing along as it really is a damned good bike. Oh, I guess one other thing, not sure if possible to fix really, the pillion seat is tiny. Maybe slap on the Katana front like they did to the V-Strom as that could improve the thing and make it look like less of a whale ?
Exciting, solid, well rounded and well priced bike that thieves are less likely to pay attention to? Sounds like it would suit a lot of people. I didn't care for the looks of my street triple at first but it eventually grew on me.
You can buy a quickshifter, autoblipper, yoshi exhaust, and a new airfilter and it'll still be cheaper than the FZ10!
No autobliper, throttle by wire needed.
Suzuki has much more optimised business than its competitors.
I think its equipped with some kind of quick shifter
@Sebastian IRC makes quickshifters/autoblippers for bikes without ride by wire, so it’s possible
I’ve got the 2020 model and after 8,000 miles I have to say that was a very accurate and fair assessment of the bike. Spot on review.
How heavy is the clutch ? How much for a q shifter?
@@cynic150 I’ve got a new GT and in comparison the older 2020 clutch pull is much heavier. The GT is loads better and the QS is nice
Bought one of these a year ago. Had a Fazer800 before. Wow, what a difference! Every time I climb on I get the grin factor; it does everything! I'm mostly an about town rider so was worried it would be heavy and wobbly, not the case at all; it's happy weaving at low speed. I really love this bike. Get over the looks (how often do you see the front anyway?) and go out and enjoy it; I certainly do!
Its front is pretty
I have never ridden better engineered bikes than Suzukis.
Suzuki always were the best engineered bikes and that's why they have won the most World endurance championships and more than any other manufacturer.
People laugh and take the piss out of gsxrs but the truth is like said above they are the best bikes mechanically out there
@@TrulyUniqueOne i would say that by the late 80's kawies became the one ring that rule them all
I have, but great bikes all the same , and Suzuki gearboxes can’t be bettered
@@ragimundvonwallat8961 no chance I own an 05 zx10r as well as my 1000k6 and the laws is no where near in quality mechanically compare with the Suzuki
Picking mine up this week. The red and black one. I think it's a gorgeous bike in person. I'm so ready for one of these sport touring bikes and this one seems the best for the money as well. Love this bike. I rode my friends and fell in love with it. If it had rider modes it would be perfect but it does have traction control and that's fine with me. You're right, you can't turn off the ABS but for touring around with that kind of power ABS is a good thing. It's so powerful but smooth as butter. I could ride it for 5 hours straight very comfortably. Good review. Nice bike.
great review, had a 2020 GSX S1000F for 7 months, absolutely love the bike. solid review from this guy. : )
Love Suzuki, mechanically there's something very complete about them. As you say everything just works, which is something you don't appreciate until you try something Italian (I've just swapped my GSXR750 for a Ducati Monster 1200) haha! That being said, I really wish they'd hire a decent designer and jump on the super naked bandwagon. Current GSXR1000R without fairings and a sharper design would sell by the sh*t load.
Greetings, Chop! I enjoyed this piece very much. I like your enthusiasm! It seemed like you really got on well with this bike. It is certainly growing on me. I ride a 2011 GSX1250FA, which I bought new and is an absolute missile! And though she is showing no signs of slowing down, she is getting older. The more I see of this bike the more I think it would be a fine replacement for my trusty FA should that day ever come. So thank you for the honest review. No, it's not a Tuono V4, or a Super Duke, or a fill-in-the-blank! But for what I am doing, it's perfect. Initial buy-in is low, it's comfortable, upgradeable, performs great and will be cheaper to operate. And I happen to love the look. It's a great value for sure.
ever since my 1971 T250R I've been impressed by Suzuki. Great engineering and manufacturing company.
good and honest review mate, i bought one 2 years ago after trying the mt10 and ktm 1290gt, both very good bikes but the zook is a better all rounder in my opinion, the mt i took out nearly ran out off fuel on the test ride after doing only 100 odd miles the zook will do 160 odd to the tank and i found the gt to vibey and expensive ,yes they were a tad faster but not by much
I personally really like the design.
I own a 2016, after many other bikes. I wanted the versatility that the fairing and protection adds over the naked for long miles on the freeway. It's the best bike I've owned by far. Super comfort, great power everywhere, a sound that is absolutely intoxicating. The snatchy throttle seems to vary from bike to bike, but mine doesn't have it (and I knew about the problem before hand and test rode mine before purchase) I was initially thinking of a Ducati SS, or Honda VFR, but when I saw this bike, I wanted to give it a try, and I'm glad I did. It ticks all of the boxes for me.. The looks? I absolutely love the look of my Triton Blue. I've put on bar end mirrors, a tinted shield, some frame sliders, and if you don't like the way it looks... you suck. ;)
Mines a 2016 and I'm amazed the fuelling on yours isnt snatchy, the fuel maps are mostly the same on all bikes and mine is definitely snatchy especially mid-corner, and I've got a fuelling unit to smooth the map out, and its still not great. It's a known problem and mostly the fault of the euro4 exhaust and the fact its a 10 year old engine in a 2016 bike. The 2016 bike also shakes it's head under hard acceleration and has a known stalling problem (the new bike has anti-stall). The 2016 ABS bike also releases the brakes if you hit a small pothole, which is scary. Lots of issues, not a great package, but fun at speed, but not worth the money. The brakes are soft too, needing half the travel before they bite, meaning two finger braking is out. It can be hard work this bike. The S1000r is better.
@@markmywords312 I am the same bike, and the brakes are magnificent one finger can do the trick. My fueling is snitchy, I switched out the throttle for the katana throttle and that did improve it. This bike has Brembo brakes 145 horsepower an amazing seating position and sounds like a Formula One car and you don't like it and don't think it's event a stick deal for the money? You did wrong. Vantastic bike for the money
I am in America, and I own a 2016 version of this bike. I love the upright position, the higher handlebars and the overall more comfortable seating position as compared to other sport bikes. I think the throttle is too snatchy, I was thinking about getting a booster plug.
You seam to be loving this GSX1000F Chop’s I think it makes a cracking sports tourer for the less senior rider. I like it myself but it feels a bit small for me as i am 20 stone and 76 years young😁😁
I have a 2016 naked version and I put a racing windscreen on mine and it knocks the wind right over my helmet, if I set straight up and stretch I can feel it then in my face but if I set normal I can cruise fast as I want on interstate no problem! It is light feeling still but that’s what makes it quick! I got mine turned up to 150hp and weight down to 439lbs! It may be even less now. I just did a tail tidy got rid of that mess in the back, it’s now just a small yoshi plate frame and light and nice pointy tail like a proper sport bike! Really helps the looks to!
I think the front end is similar to the old faired SV, but with better lights. seems like a nice upgrade for me. Thanks for a great review.
I have a blue and black one, ecu done at msg running lextek downpipes and yoshi r11 exhaust puts out 162bhp, just had suspension done front and back nitron r1 shock ktech fork springs. It's my everyday bike. The only thing left to do is change the seat as the standard one is very hard
Good day! Which one would you prefer? Suzuki GSXS1000F or Kawasaki Z1000SX? And why?
Looks like they improved the mirror. I have the 16 gsx-S1000.
I have a 2016 in red and black. Full Yoshimura exhaust, power commander, K and N filter,has been dyno tuned it goes like stink but it chews the fuel lucky if I get 220kms per tank. I personally love the way this bike looks.
Nice vid chops. I test rode one and the kwak sx. Went for the kwak as I just couldn't get over the looks of the suzi. Great bike to ride though. Looks are personal thing.
so many good words about suzuki bikes from really experienced riders
Just a quick question: how does this bike qualify as a “naked” ?? It has a fairing. Don’t get me wrong, I love the bike and would love to have one but aren’t “naked” bikes unfaired sport bikes with better ergonomics for the street?
The issue with the front breaks over time is that they make a howling sound. Only slight but is a manufacturing fault with the discs. Only with this model the GSXR does not have this problem and the GSXS does. There are many forums with the same issue. Replacing the pads does not help. Just have to put up with it.
picked mine up today in red/black and you just uploaded this vid - fits perfectly :-))
Oh nice matey, really good timing! :-)
thanks! really loved your comment about the mechanical beauty of suzukis. just the way i feel about it. no frills, just solid motorcycling :-) greetings from austria!
Get my black and red one in 2 weeks, I've got to admit the demo ride I had yesterday was probably the best I've had on a sports bike, very good at everything and a bargain...I'm soooo looking forward to getting to know it properly, I think I'm in love, even with the crooked nose :)
What about heat managment? Espetialy on warm days. My gsxr is killing me!
One year on......are you happy with your bike? :)
Suzuki simply the best. Never a problem, never a hick up! Just start and ride 👍
I agree, But I cannot understand why they added (Scooter Fun) into the target ?
I'm thinking bout purchasing the triton blue and metallic Black version of the bike,Your review helped alot.Yes it's basic looking but it has everything spot on for this Suzuki.Everything meshes just right.For 2018 you get the darker windshield in the States.Keep up the good work!!!
Thanks Johnny enjoy it. I have a video coming soon taking all the Suzuki bikes around a close track and the F did very well indeed. I knew it was a beast of a bike :-)
Great review, I’m so glad you mentioned the throttle response. I rode a 2016 model and the throttle was shocking, glad they fixed it.
Always been a fan of Suzuki since I replaced a 78 Honda 750 back in 1980 with a GSX750. The Suzuki was a better bike all round, particularly the engine and gearbox.
I've heard that if a bike company lend you a bike for more than five weeks, you may keep it! 😂
Good review, plain and clear. 👍
haha, well funny that as I heard that also!! :-) sorry Suzuki you cant have it back!
Lamb Chop Rides
Nope, tuff luck Suzie. Lol.
I really enjoy your reviews. Easy to tell you are mad for motos and passion for your thing is very appealing to me. So thanks for a great review. Cheers.
test rode it and bought it today, same colour, fantastic bike not snatchy as some made the phobia about
it
I own the 2016 version and the throttle is like a on off switch. Possibly it’s fixed now, but it is definitely a real thing.
How tall are you and how you find it on a highway? What is your average consumption?
Hi again, my 2018 snatch got worse with chain stretch which means it had to be adjusted frequently. It also couldn't keep a constant speed without hunting slightly, enough to be annoying. I gave up and put PC V and throttle tamer on and it is now very well behaved.Your right Suzuki couldn't get them inside the euro emissions without running them lean. Thats all the PC V map does is make it run richer all the way to about 7000 rpm.
I am really tempted to sell my Harley sportster 1200 and buy this bike. just wonder if its too much for a relatively new rider?
It's a bonkers bike the top end pull on it will have you feeling like neo in the matrix mine wants to power wheelie at 10k in 1 2 and 3 but it's truly easy to ride it tamely around town. I picked one up brand new in 20 degree weather and drove it home slowly and nervously lol if you can control yourself and allow yourself to get comfortable before you try to ride it deep into the gears sure but the way this the exponentially makes power is a recipe for disaster if you don't have self control and know what you are doing.
I have owned a 2016 GSXS-S1000F for - well several years now - hands down the easiest, fun, & accessible of liter bikes. I've never understood the whole "twitchy throttle" complaint... you twist, you get instant power; anything else would be a delay. I heard the gearing is better on the 2018+ models though - thats my only, and I hate to even say the word "complaint", is that 4th, 5th, 6th, are to closely geared - but really, that's not even remotely a deal killer and apparently they fixed it. I agree with Lamb on everything on the review & as a personal owner, it's good to see even a pro knows its a great bike.
I did a test ride with MT09 and it was too agressive for me. How do you compare this one with MT09? I would go for GSX-S 750 but that one has no fairing. I am 186 cm tall, would it be OK for highway speed around 130-150 kmh. Thanks for your answer. I really appreciate your reviews.
I have been riding since 1983 so the whole “Naked” category didn’t exist when I started riding. Not sure this moto technically qualifies as "Naked" as it is a faired moto but that was kinda your point in the title.
The GSX-S1000 is a naked bike. GSX-S1000F has a fairing, hence the "F"
Was the close ratio transmission right for street riding?
Yes gearing is perfect for the street, also great at decent cruising speeds
Excellent reviews, I just watched a bunch of them! Although less practical would you say the naked (non f) version is more fun ?
Pull away assist does sound silly, but when I stalled and dropped my kwaka the other day it probably would of been very useful 🤔
Its true, just a nice little feature that like you say could save you dropping the bike one day!
I'm torn Ktm 790 duke or 1000f? to be used as a daily 60km 50-100 km/h roads round trip commuter in all weather heavy traffic peak hour to empty 4am roads on the way to work.... Both would be great but if I needed a do it all bike maybe the 1000f ?If I needed to do the odd 400km trip in a day it would be better option...In Australia there ride away price is about the same $16.5 k. Great dynamics, reliability, trump looks for me. Great review LCR of a dark horse bike thank you.
I will be borrowing the 790 for a couple of weeks in July to do an extended review on. Looking forward to trying it
This is a bigger bang for your buck though without question
Lamb Chop Rides Be interested in your opinion of the Duke too. Thanks for the heads up will keep an eye out for your review thanks LC
It's a pigeon,took one for a test ride sounded exactly the same as my old 04 10r that air induction sound is dreamy
Just bought one, feels great,i have sadle bags, just top case and god to go.
About the same weight as my old 1983 katana 650
Wow bikes have gotten so much lighter, to the power your getting.
You got a nice helmet what is that? I think AGV? Nice review by way thanks
More like a supersport rather than a sports tourer. Great video matey. How did you find the throttle/fuelling. Did you get any jerkyyness when rolling on off throttle?
Its a little jerky around 7k on and off, but no more than normal Euro 4 setups. Pipe and a remap and it would be smooth as butter. Its not enough to put me off buying one
I like it. They could have made it more aggressive, but overall very practical and sporty.
That’s a bike that sneaks under the radar. 😃
May be this Scooter like face is the GOD of India, as Suzuki making a lots of factories in India.
@@menmentantan5591 ur mama face sucks too boi
Hi I'm a 6ft 1ins rider. I road tested this bike as i was going to buy it.I also road tested the yamaha MT10 but I bought the Mt10 as it felt a little more roomy in the leg department. Which bike would have you gone for with you being a 6ft2ins tall rider.
Like the idea of this bike but needs face uplift and more characterful noise. lamb would you test a VFR 800 or second hand VFR1200 would like to hear what you think
another great video mate been my local bike shop today and they have some fantastic deals on these at the moment so thinking of getting one in the new year .
Would you sway more towards a 17 plate s1000xr or say a suzuki gsxs1000f? I'll only been using it for commuting and some long motorway miles to visit the Mrs, but with some b roads in between.
Nice review I’ve got one in the red black 2015 bit different to standard now
Carbon wheels full system rapid bike + quick shifter upgraded suspension
Excellent bike.😄😄😄
Great review... how is the wind protection compared to the r version ?
I really like the front end... lol ...
tks
the headlight looks more impressive in mate gray paint. white are now arriving at MY2018. they should redesign it though...something like the ones from k5 to k7. those were amazingly great looking
To me it looks like they cut the front off a busa and stuck a GSXR rear end on it with like tall bars and a little dash like most new bikes! I love it and the ninja 1000 and I’m looking for a good deal on a slightly used one with like 1-5k miles that’s seems to be the sweat spot for new looking bikes that are isn’t broke In and had all the money spent on them so I can reap the benefits of “Mr I shouldn’t have bought a bike I hate it now”! Done found one 2k miles $6k already got all the extras I want like heated grips, exhaust, bags on both sides and a extra tall tinted wind screen! Oh and frame sliders if it ever does get knocked over by some a hole!
If I were Suzuki I would have jumped on the retro band wagon. Wrap that bike in vintage GSXR plastic.
New Katana! They must have heard you!...
I own a 2016 in blue. Definitly had the ecu flash and even with just a yoshi alpha slip-on, this thing is a rocket. Lifts the wheel on demand and gets going. From what I understand, they make saddlebags for touring. The euro 4 mapping really ruined the bikes fueling and gave it a twitchy stuttering problem so the flash was a must but either way, it's a proper animal.
did the reflash help with the jerkiness ive been reading about? what about the mpg? im getting one in a couple weeks.
john stokes It definitly helped with the jerky throttle, I didn't see any real difference in mpg. I hear the 2018 model has an updated remapped ECU since everyone complained, Suzuki finally changed it. They even mention it in the brochure for the 2018.
So how jerky was it? I had a k3 600, sold it a year ago and I remember coming from.sv650 to the 600 and thinking wow, this throttle is REAL.
john stokes My personal opinion, but it felt sketchy as shit going into corners and keeping the rpm stable until I learned the bike. It would have a delayed onset power, So I'd give it throttle and it would think for a second as I'm into the corner then, Bam, power would surge in and get a bit sketchy. Honestly the entire problem boils down to the bullshit euro emissions standards and it still uses a throttle cable which needed adjusting for sure. In the end, 4 stroke engines weren't designed to run with the standards they dreamed up. By no means would any of these issues deter me from buying the bike again. It's still fantastic, it just acts like a horse, you have to learn what she likes and work from there. The seating position is so much better and it has good safety features. She's a bad bitch and can be found for a good price because most people overlook it due to the front fairings but don't realize it's still a liter bike.
great breakdown bro. i watch so many of these videos and have been riding for years but i still dont know the lingo. lol so bottomline, an ecu reflash and ill be good? any specific kind of reflash or they'll know what to do?
Hi Chopsey
Can you really sit at 80 to 90 with that small fairing🤔
That's a good looking helmet, what kind is it?
So strange.. the Windshield is the most important thing. What is really interesting ist the torque on the middrange, this is the big question with Euro5. As most bikes lost the midrange (remember the Suzuki Bandit? It had over 100NMs @ 3700rmps). And this Suzuki is a brilliant bike except 2 things: The missing midrange at lower rpm and the (too wide) backtire.. A shame, as I do really like this bike but would never buy it with that torque in midrange..
Great review bro I’m thinking about getting the gs1000z I like the fact you show the under seat space I’m up in the air from Suzuki or the 821 monster
Hi great reviews ,just out of interest do suzuki contact you to give you the long term bike to test or do you contact them and ask/beg/etc to borrow a bike from them many thanks mark
Thanks Mark, originally I contacted them. I think I was one of the first in the UK they lent bikes too. The complication is they have to add you to their insurance as its a fortune to try and insure a press bike yourself. Normally of course mags have their own cover so its not a problem. So they have to be invested that your going to work with them long term. I have a great relationship with them now so I can borrow whatever I like (very lucky) Cheers Chops
@@LambChopRides great stuff sounds a great set up ! Do they deliver to you or have you got to go and collect from their hq ?
Hi chops. Good honest review of a bike that tends to slip under the radar. I believe it's power output is is 150 ps [148 hp] not 160hp. It's been around for 3 years or so now and most people are not too keen on the front end. Suzuki should restyle it to make it more pleasing to the eye but otherwise a good bike. By the way have you tried the new Honda CB1000R yet. I took one out for a test ride the other day and what a great bike it turned out to be. It's acceleration is absolutely mental. The fit and finish is superb and it looks great especially in red. It's about a grand more than the Suzuki but it's worth it with it's superior fit and finish and a single sided swing arm. I also think it is more grunty than the Suzuki. Try one if you get the chance. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised how good it is.
Yes would like to try the new CB.. Maybe better go chat with my local Honda dealer :-)
I had the 16 plate F, standard 143bhp, Flashed and decat 153bhp, the newer ones are 5bhp more. Got a K7 gsxr 1000 now with flat bars, so almost same as the F but more grunt.
They tend to make more power than stated by Suzuki if Suzuki claim 143bhp at the Crank.. They definatly under quote that as most stock ones make 135-140 on a dyno
That's because it's probably lower geared than the suzuki but I heard stories it out performed the Honda
You get it. Suzuki isn’t really innovating because they’re broke, but they’re otherwise criminally underrated. Their products are nearly perfected. They focused on details to make them better rather than making all new more expensive bikes. This model in particular is constantly overlooked at an absolutely unbelievable bargain for how much bike you get at $11k.
Go the mighty K5 engine ;-)
I wasn't quite sure what to think when i saw the bike. But oh my god i was giggling like a child for a solid 25 minutes on that test ride. Torque fo DAYYYSSS. Very smooth engine. Great sound. Good brakes. I loved it. Not really my styling preference, but man for how comfortable it is i could see it in my garage if i had the spare money for a longer distance bike.
haha glad you enjoyed it :-)
Weird that yours didn’t have riding modes. My 2016 has 4 modes.
I love my 2016 GSXS 1000f
Another informal review, 👍!
I need to drive 45 minutes each way to work and need a good bike, is this my best choice????
I have the GSX-S1000 and crush the Tail of the Dragon 🐉 🐉 🐉 🐉 🐉
How tall are you? I like the fact that the windscreen pushes rhe air over ya head but im 190cm so i have issue with some screens pushing wind right into my helmet. Or even under the neckroll in smaller bikes
Bit of a wolf in sheeps clothing then eh? (Especially in white!) You’d think they’d shift loads of them for people of a certain age who don’t want a race replica but not ready for a bmw twin yet! 👍🏻😎
Yes exactly, want that super naked performance but want some comfort also then this fits the bill. Bonus is that bill isnt too outrageous either :-)
Oh ! good idea. It is not so difficult to customize like a scooter.
I am so confused. Bike weight was announced in kilos, speed in Miles, you are driving on the wrong side of the road the whole review, cars passing by on your right with steering wheels in the right, instead your bike throttle is on right hand and clutch in left hand just like normal bikes in the rest of the world. Just kidding man, congratulations for the excellent review. I am leaning towards buying a used one. Stay safe.
As mr. Regular would say. This is a gentlemens sport bike!
Don't you have any highways where you live?
Man , I haven't commented in ages, but do still love your videos. What would you say ,this vs the naked? Commuter vs Hooligan or would you say both are about the same, aside from the wind resistance (and the snatchy throttle on the older GSXS1000 ).
Thanks WD, yes this really is exactly the same as the GSXS1000 naked but with a screen and some fairing. The new GSXS naked also had the throttle response sorted so it really is a case of if you want that wind protection or prefer the look of the naked
aight man. I went from a Naked GS 500 to a SV 650 S recently ,gotta say though the wind protection is quite nice. The more sporty seating position aint though. Might be looking at one of these in a couple of years or so. When prices (which are already low) come down even more. Thanks
It's a supersport like the Ducati Supersport, I think..?
Do you get a lot of wind on the hands?
The mirrors should have been mounted on the fairing ?
There is some people out there thinking that suzuki are a joke but think again because they are the masters of endurance racing and have won more endurance championships than any other manufacturer since the early 80s and are fantastic bikes to own and ride.
Hi Chops, what MPG were you achieving??
I'm on an old Honda nighthawk now, I would love to try out a bike like this
thanks for the video. For wind protection at high speed, is it really that much better than the naked version? How about vs the tuono for wind protection?(obviously other differences)
Its very good, much more wind protection than the Tuono, you can cruise at 100 mph no problem without to much wind blast. The naked version has nothing, so its like my Super Duke 1290 80 mph is absolute maximum speed you can maintain for long periods.
is it me or the renthal bar looks shifting to the left a bit , doesnt look straight
Unsung hero, mentioned in my last video revealing my mt10
Thought it had rider modes?
I've got the 2017 Yamaha Mt09 and I was wondering if this was better for wind protection and longer ride?
Not sure about wind protection but I can tell you it’s a better bike lol
I traded my gsxs 1000 for an mt09 worse decision lol I now ride a bmw s1000rr 😂
Hi. It was over to quick. I wanted to see more of you twisting the wrist on this Suzuki. What no wheelies? Great bike such a shame about the looks. 🖒
Yeah was trying to keep it semi sensible haha.
Hi LCR, I have a technical question : So this bike has a detuned 2005 GSXR K5 engine, can this be remapped using a power commander to ride like a GSXR/ sports bike?. I know some people claiming that using a Rapid bike module (Italian product) they were able to gain 15 hp in Aprilia Tuono. Is there any truth to this?
Hi Rocky, no its not just the map which has been changed from the GSXR spec, different cams, head porting etc etc to give it more torque. You can of course make good gains by doing the normal exhaust / remap route but it will never make GSXR power unless you rework the internals but then you loose the torque..
Lamb Chop Rides Got it, thank you LCR. I tried looking for this information on the Internet but to no avail. Thank you
It's possible: th-cam.com/video/h6L7HqhpDBE/w-d-xo.html
Alvara Curto I saw that entire episode, I didn't understand much but I think they swapped out some engine parts along with full yoshimura exhaust. I am going to check their website
Please what's the top speed of this ?
Love the white n looks i like. Not sure why ppl think scooterlike.
I’m tempted to get one as a winter hacker
What is your helmet if i may ask?
what helmet is that?
Front View (Type F) is similar to Scooter, as light position is low. and Cheap bar Handle, which make so many hesitations.
Suzuki Performance and reliance is super, But design is ,,,,,, ?????
IKR, but at one point every bike manufacturer just copies the same front end from Honda or Kawi i not sure but it just looks similar, that eyelash design thingy. i prefer each manufacturer design differently.
example if you like GSXR front you probably like MV Agusta F3 F4 front cuz how similar it is, while many would prefer Honda Yamaha Kawi and Ducati front.
@@renorzeta
I agree.
As a design MV AGSTA F3 F4 front view is very nice, (Simple and cool face)
It similar to the GSX-R 2017 y model
Reg Design I heard Suzuki used to hire european designer very often.
I am very interested in MV Agsta with its cool feature and stylish shape.
But the neck is price and liabilities.
If I were in Euro and F4 were in the same price range of Suzuki Yamaha, I shall no doubt try AGSTA F4
@@menmentantan5591 Yeah , if i have such money i could buy F4 Claudio and Super Veloce, but sadly im Broke. lul.
F4 Claudio color scheme really spot on! GSX-R 2019 White-Black color aswell.
What about heat managment espetialy in hot days?
Front is plain ugly. I bought one new due to the engine, and I still haven't come across a bike with one that good or characterful. To me, it felt it would be solid and reliable and last for a long old time. Sold it because I was riding wayyyyyyy too fast on it. It really is a license killer. Granddaughter loved it, she kept asking me to overtake everything when she was on the back :-) So, message to Suzuki, change the front, leave the rest of the thing along as it really is a damned good bike. Oh, I guess one other thing, not sure if possible to fix really, the pillion seat is tiny. Maybe slap on the Katana front like they did to the V-Strom as that could improve the thing and make it look like less of a whale ?
They listened to you! New gsxs1000 dropped with a new front but same engine lol good call. 👍
Is it worth the price difference to get the super duke?
Absolutely not worth the price difference as the super Duke will be in the garage more often than on the road.
what helmet are you wearing?
Exciting, solid, well rounded and well priced bike that thieves are less likely to pay attention to? Sounds like it would suit a lot of people. I didn't care for the looks of my street triple at first but it eventually grew on me.
When the 1st generation hayabusa came out its looks were questionable but it looks like no other bike out there and looks futuristic.