I always thought Malon was links future wife because with twilight princess's link being the hero of times grandchild, if zelda was the mother I'd expect the royal family to protect the prince he'd be as they're so protective of the hyrule royal bloodline
Also In the night theme of Twilight Princess the singing uses Malon’s voice. It’s like TP Link’s great grandmother is singing a lullaby to him when it’s nighttime.
@@morthurarrgan I always thought I was hearing it like malon singing but I didn't know It actually was, had a feeling I was hearing it different to what it was, awesome to know that though thank you.
The Zora sapphire thing is so funny to me considering that Link, a 9 year old kid raised by other kids in a forest his whole life, likely has no idea what marriage or an engagement is He just thinks it's nice he got the stone and is one step closer to his goal, that's all
You forgot to mention that The hero of Twilight also knows Epona's song and has a horse that shares its appearance and name with The hero of time's Epona implying that both Epona's song and name were passed down through the generations and it further strengthens the theory that Malon is the love of the hero of time since Epona is Malons horse not Links.
Man choosing between Malon and OoT Zelda is so dang difficult. One you have to consider all the evidence of Twilight Princess Link, Ordon Villiage and the Hero of Time. 2 its such a pain that OoT Link and Zelda can't even be together because of those backing evidence. Like after watching the Hero's Purpose videos (by Majorlinks) literally wanted me to see Link and Zelda together and the Hero's Purpose make it very dang convincing but at the same time have to hold the account for Malon.
@@SUP-h9d that was pretty much my intention too when Malon appeared up in Hero's Purpose. But the interaction between Zelda and Link in Hero's Purpose was so good too, it's hard not rooting for Link and Zelda.
For me, Ordonian Link is proof that Link didn't get with Malon. Malon was the heiress of a lucrative ranch in the middle of Hyrule. Meanwhile, Ordonian Link is the only Hylian working as a ranchhand for someone else's ranch in the outskirts of Hyrule. Epona's song seems to be a community song which everyone uses, as Malo's father summons a hawk with it. The only way I can see Ordonian Link as a descendant of Malink is if one of Malink's children/grandchildren visited Ordon and abandoned the mother and baby to their fate. But, a Zelink child/grandchild could also act like that.
I always thought Malon was cute when I played Ocarina of Time 3D as a kid. Also in the manga, Malon falls for Link when he saves the farm. Of course in the manga, Link has a crush on Zelda, which even Malon recognizes.
Yeah the manga is pretty great. I exclude them from my videos since they can't be used as canon or even secondary sources, but they are definitely great stories!
@@Zeldom I honestly would considered the OOT manga an companion story that features parts that weren't in the game. While a hero's purpose leads up to him with potentially Malon, Link X Zelda's relationship served as a beautiful and tragic love story.... even TP Zelda obtains her ancestor's memories in the TP manga.
I've been a Malink shipper ever since I discovered Linked Universe. I was a Zelink shipper before that, but honestly, Malon makes a lot more sense for this particular incarnation of Link than Zelda does. And their relationship in LU is just so wholesome :)
actually all the "evidence" that Malon and Link got together is just evidence that oot link is an ancestor of tp link. Link bought Epona, so Epona is Link's, she's not Malon's anymore, Epona's music, Link knew and could have taught anyone. As for the presence of NPCs in Majoras Mask, honestly it's more about the world of Termina than about link. Besides, we don't know how much time passed between MM and TP. Aside from the fact that the royal family is said to have enjoyed the link, a marriage would likely not have been prevented. Besides, TP Link is the only Hylian in a village of humans who don't know their parents, so TP Link could have been born anywhere. And the fact that he is a farmer means nothing about who his ancestors were.
My first approach to Ocarina of Time was the manga adaptation. The author was more of a Zelink person and her adaptation made it clear but Link's interactions with Malon were rather cute there.
I was hoping you'd bring up Cremia's implied feelinga for Kafei; he's one of the few residents of Termina who supposedly doesn't have a Hyulian counterpart. I say supposedly because I think it's possible he's some kind of parallel version of Link, who you even sorta get to play as. There's also that scene where Cremia is talking with Link about the wedding, while also mentioning how glad she is for his company and how she's been feeling lonely. Coincidence?
Also the whole theme of "an adult in a child's body," now that I think of it. That's basically what the Hero of Time is at the time of Majora's Mask. Kafei is cursed, and in a way so is Link after the events of OoT. I like to think that in a way, helping Kafei and Anju reunite and saving Termina is a way for Link to come to grips with his own trauma. It is also likely therapeutic to actually save a land where the residents will remember him as a hero.
@@roguesquadron521 You know, I never really thought of that. In OoT, Link was a child in an adult body for half the game. In MM, Kafei was an adult in a child body. Kinda leads more credence to the "Kafei is Link's Terminian counterpart" theory.
Shipping is a guilty pleasure lol. I always liked Saria the most in OoT. In fact, she's in my top three fav ships with Link in the series, along with Medli and Midna. But of course, Saria being a Kokiri and Link being a Hylian, that'd never actually work. I believe the theory that Link ultimately ends up with Malon, as both start the game off the same age, age together, Malon's Dad pushes Link to marry her one day, and there's even a Gossip Stone somewhere in the game stating Malon is waiting for a "knight in shining armor" to sweep her off her feet. I like Malon too, though I find Romani and Cremia in Majora's Mask far more interesting as characters.
I also personally find it more interesting story-wise if The Hero of Time marries Malon. Especially if we reframe the question from "Who does Link love?" to "what life would Link want for himself?" After OoT he's a traumatized adult in a child's body, sent back to relive his childhood but no longer able to enjoy it as such. So he leaves to find the one thing that, in his mind, bound him to his roots as a child among the Kokiri: Navi. Majora's Mask - whether it's real or some sort of dream or allegory - is Link's reckoning with his life and future. He fights his demons, rediscovers some of the simple joys in the world, and finds new hope. It's heavily implied in both MM and TP that The Hero of Time returned to Hyrule after the events of the story and became a royal knight (the Hero's Shade wears knightly armour). He probably took this position as a way to keep fulfilling his perceived duty, but I imagine he would find it exhausting to be in a relationship with Princess Zelda as well. Being a knight in service to the royal family is one thing, but he would still be traumatized from the events of his young life, and all that proximity to the burden he had to endure would be too much. Zelda is the largest tie to the life he clearly just wanted to escape in Majora's Mask. I could see Malon and the ranch being Link's respite. It's an escape to a more humble, down-to-earth life. Malon's laid-back, playful, less solemn personality would be a breath of fresh air. Perhaps being in her proximity would make it easier for him to feel some of the childlike happiness return to him? He'd visit often as a child (maybe even move in - where else would he go?) and find comfort in his and Malon's friendship. As they grow up, deeper feelings would emerge. They would eventually be married, maybe found a new village in the outskirts of the Kingdom, and pass on the ranch-heritage + Epona's Song to their descendants, culminating in The Hero of Twilight. I just think it's neat!
I've always vibed with the idea that when Link returned he moved into the farm with Malon and Talon, because throughout OoT Talon was literally the only adult who actually treated Link like the child he was. He never told Link 'Hey go do this insane and dangerous thing k thanks bye' or allowed him into an area that he knew was not child friendly, he'd tease him instead, play games with him and talked to him like a kid saying things like 'are you here to play with Malon? She's out back'. I can totally see Talon kind of becoming a father figure to Link and encouraging them to get together, that would be an amazing fanfic actually!
I believe that Zelink happened. As it was addressed in an interview if OOT/MM Link were to have a girlfriend. He would want it to be Zelda. Several characters make remarks about how he's searching for the princess in game. Like Ruto...his self proclaimed fiancé. Pointed out how he was worried/thinking about Zelda. Impa addressed to Link not worry about Princess she is safe. Even if it was to learn the Song of Time in Majora's Mask. Link thought of Zelda...and was in a deep daze that he snapped out of...to me indicates he was happily daydreaming. Indicates Zelda as a possible love interest. Also who does LINK go to as soon as he ends up back in the past. Indicated he has his memories intact. He goes to see Zelda...yes, it's also to warn her. And with the different timelines. I think OOT Zelink was the one that destined for them to be tragic lovers. Link and Zelda could have a tragic forbidden type of relationship. They couldn't marry because of his status. But still be lovers that result in a child. For all we know. Link could even been a bodyguard to Zelda at some point. As a theory. There's many that go on in my head. The thing is TP Link and Zelda have NO romantic interest in each other. Link addressed he didn't have an male heirs to pass on his skills. So this makes me believe he had a daughter. Who could had two children or what not....and TP Link and Zelda are distant related. As say a Zelda could take the throne...and another descendant wouldn't have to worry of such. Just because TP Link knows Epona's song. Doesn't mean he ended up with Malon. Malon taught Link the song...and Epona became LINK'S horse even in Majora's Mask. There also could be reasons TP Link ended up on a ranch. It doesn't always mean their a descendant.
Fun fact: In the beta ending for OOT, Link rides off on Epona, with Malon. Also? I think one of the main reasons why people always tend to ship Zelda and Link? Because it fits the classic fairy tale. Hero saves princess from the evil beast/wizard, then the hero and princess fall in love and get married. And hey, it seems they likely DO in some games. Also? OOT is actually the first game that gives multiple options for Link, if you think about it. Marin was the first non-Zelda romantic option we saw, (And actually, the first that actual chemistry seems to form with. Zeldas past were barely characters to know.) And such is a trend that's carried on heavily.
Friend, I don't know where you saw this, but in the beta of the game there is none of what you said, I went back and I didn't find anything, if it's true, tell me where you saw it so we can find it and check it out. Besides the fact that there is a chance that Marín is a representation of Zelda in the dream world, just as Tarin would be a representation of Link's uncle.
I always saw OoT as a kind of love story, which I think even Miyamoto said once, in that there is a love between Link and Zelda but they are fated not to be with each other. I think Link does end up marrying Malon though, and TP Link is their great grandchild - explaining why he lives on a ranch and knows Epona's song.
When I first played OOT, I used to make-believe that Malon was my wife who I settle down with after the story After a long day of side-questing, I would ride Epona "home" to LonLon Ranch and do "farm-husband" stuff It's a little embarrassing to admit now, but that's why Malon made the most sense to me as an actual "happily ever after" partner for Link to grow old with Zelda just has too much going on
Honestly, I'm a sucker for the "childhood friends turned to love" trope, which is a reason I like Miphlink so much in BOTW. It's also why I love LinkxSaria. But I also love Malink in this game because it can morph into the same thing. I love LinkxSaria because Saria loves Link wholly unconditionally: she loved him before he ever became a hero. With Malink it's not quite the case, but it's not really a rescue romance per se. Plus, in the Child timeline, she will likely never know him as "The Hero". This version of Link is probably the most popular with women to date. Just look at the sheer number of them who like him. I'm probably going to go to the BOTW vid after this, because I have thoughts on the major ships there. All good ones, though. I'm no naval commander unless I'm playing World of Warships, you know, with real virtual ships. With guns. That go boom. Love me the U.S.S. Massachusetts! And HMS Warspite! Edit: To clarify, I understand that LinkxSaria is inappropriate as it appears, but we've no idea how old Saria actually is, and Saria is far, far more mature and worldly than her peers. If Saria were given the opportunity to grow up as Link has, she would be number 1 on the list by a wide, wide margin. You also left out Navi. The developers have explicitly stated that Navi fell in love with Link over the course of the adventure.
I believe Malon was the proper partner for Link. For once, he can actually live by her side. And also I think that their interaction seemed to be the only want that spoke the loudest in volumes. Since Twilight Link is a descendant of OOT Link, I don’t see anyone else but Malon to be his wife to create a family.
Man this thumbnail gives me such nostalgia lol. I miss the older anime style of animation so much, wish it would make a comeback. Very good video by the way, Malink is probably the best ship in my opinion.
I have to agree with your conclusion that Malon makes the most sense. However, don't discount Saria completely. She has the best emotional connection to Link, and she's a *Sage* -- she could likely use her magic to grow up, even if that's not possible for any other Kokiri. Either way, i just *can't* drop the ship I've had since I was a teenager myself in the 90s.
Yep I just copy/paste my video scripts into TH-cam's subtitles and it's smart enough to get the timing right. It's not perfect but still a step up from auto-generated :)
I like to assume it was Saria in the long haul myself. In TP the Kokori are gone, and following the flow of time after that, BotW has the Koroks in their place. The Hero of Time's journey throughout the world might have emboldened plenty of Kokori to abandon their immortality to experience the world at large, and Saria definitely would be the first for the chance to be with Link again. Of course the whole Kokori/Korok thing is the only thing I like it for, and it holds about as much weight as the Rutella business mentioned elsewhere in the comments here. Who can say?
Sorry big text and theory incoming! MaLink makes a lot of sense but ZeLink is definitely not as impossible as people like to put it. I figured out a way in my headcanon with how it might work with Twilight Princess. What if Zelda and Link had multiple children and one of them ended up marrying Malon's child. Both of them decided to leave the royal life behind and moved on to a calm farming life. Link and Zelda's child would have probably heard of Epona's song from well, Link himself and Malon's child from Malon. And I believe that would cause the bloodlines to split apart. Link has descendants in the royal family, but his descendants in the farm life are the ones who after several generation lead to Twilight Princess Link. This would make him and TP Zelda very distant cousins at most I think. (Though If you wanted to ship TP Link and Zelda with this theory, I suppose real royals have never been stopped by being even closer Cousins. Look at the British Royal Family in a not so distant past. Not saying that it isn't messed up, but It wouldn't seem far fetched for a royal.) I feel the issue or maybe even the point with the game is, that we don't see how Link reacts in game. We don't see his pain, his warmth, his love. We have to imagine what he feels. That is up to everyonee. But to me it came off that Zelda was pained to let him go. She wanted to put his happiness before hers by sending him back in time. And that she might have been hurt to let him go onto his adventure in Majoras Mask too. I feel that if not for the whole timeline shenanigans, the ending of Ocarina of time would have been a perfect ending to tease a romance. The lost hearts are able to reunite. That being said, I think MaLink would be the easiest way to connect OoT and TP. The signs are clear and make sense. ZeLink needs a few more explanations to make it work, but I think with enough generations, it's not that hard to imagine it. But whoever Link ended up with, I hope Link had at least some happy years with the love he chose. It's really sad how neither Zelda, nor Malon nor Link get a happy ending, no matter how you put it. Either one of the girls, Malon or Zelda, who both feel for him, end up without Link. But both of them would lose him early to a battle of some sorts after having children with him. So Zelda or Malon's children would lose their Father too. And Link ends up as a spirit filled with regrets, who deserved so much better. I admit I'm a big Zelink Fan but I can see MaLink as a serious possibility. But in my head canon, after the Hero's Shade passes on all his knowledge to Link, he reunites with his love in the afterlife. It could be Malon if that is your head canon, but in mine it is Zelda. And what she says to him is "Let's go home, where you are supposed to be, how you are supposed to be."
I could be mistaken, but I think Hyrule Historia said TP is only 100 years after OoT. Which makes a multi-generational theory where Link's kid and descendants left behind the royal life a bit hard to do in such a short time. Aside from that detail though, I do think your head canon is a valid possibility!
@@lindenbree9188 I think the Historia doesn't mention that, but that info comes from an interview with Aonuma who said it was one or more hundred years later.
Looked it up again to be sure. It's not stated in the Historia. Personally I believe it is probably a few centuries, most likely more than one, with how drastically things changed in Hyrule.
another point to note that makes Malon more valid is that the Hero of Twilight, Link has dirty blond hair, which is found mostly in those that have genetics for both blond and red hair. that and as far as we know the only person Malon thought Epona's song to was (Hero of Time) Link and it would make sense that the song would be passed down
I like the tragic route where he always loves Zelda first, but her status as a princess and his as a nobody - or a knight depending on the game - renders that a forbidden relationship. This in turn causes Link to settle with protecting her from afar. Eventually finding his own family with a kind woman who undersstands when he confesses this. Thus her tragedy - in this case Malon - is that she knows he'll up and leave without hesitation if Zelda needs him but will also come back when she's safe. If you ask me, it fits with the whole theme of tagedy and curses in each game. After all, isn't the whole series happening because Link was too in love to stay out of Demise' curse? And Hylia too unwilling to part with him and thus setting off Skyward Sword?
This is definitely my new head cannon! Skyward sword was my first Zelda game so I always end up pairing up Link with Zelda now. But considering TP story, I am more inclined believe he ended up with Malon. With your version though, I can pretend he died unfulfilled since he never actually got to be with his Zelda.
Always remember kids the reason link got so many love interests in ocarina of time his because originally at the end of the game you would be able to choose with who link would stay with
These videos usually fail to poi t out an important detail. Link already has Epona in Majora's Mask. This tells us clearly that Link spent time with and became close with Malon when he was returned to the child timeline. Malon would not have trusted just anybody with taking Epona. Link simply having Epona in Majora's Mask is indicative of his close bond with Malon.
If the Hero of Time got together with Zelda that would mean that the Hero of Twilight would be related, possibly siblings, with the Zelda of his time. Idk that would seem weird to me. I'm also a defender of the Link x Malon idea. It seems more natural as well. With Zelda there'll always be a power dynamic one way or another. With Malon I think they would look each other eye to eye.
Every time I hear about the "Termina isn't real" stuff I just have to think how Skull Kids backstory is directly linked to Termina and how it doesn't make sense
That's because in the og manual for the game Nintendo very clearly told us that Termina was a parallel world to Hyrule, equal and real in every way, it wasn't until later that Nintendo decided to try to retcon Majora's Mask completely. The cutscenes in the game and the stories told by Granny don't make sense that Termina was someone's fever dream or a creation of Majora's Mask's dark magic, it clearly existed before and always had. But this is why almost no one considers the official encyclopedia canon.
If we assume that Zelda and link in OoT got together it might bring up some issues, and i don't mind the fact that Link in TP is a farm boy. Cause if we assume that this is the canon paring wouldnt that mean that the Link and Zelda from TP are... Related? Cause i mean if every new Zelda in the timeline is a descendant from the last that means that the Zelda in TP is unequivocally a descendant from the Zelda in OoT, right? Like TP Link IF we assume OoT Link and Zelda got together.
Well, yes. They would be cousins to some degree, depending on how many generations there were between MM and TP. But that didn't stop European royals in the real world, now did it?
If TP Link is the descendent of OoT Link, then if he married: *Saria:* Nope! Never happened and never will! She's a female version of Peter Pan! Out of the question! *Nabooru:* Hard to think about other than TP Link might start the adventure in a desert or something. Also, she's older than Link. *Ruto:* TP Link would be part-Zora and he wouldn't have any problems underwater without Zora Armor. It's either Zelda or Malon but the latter makes more sense.
This does make the most sense, especially for the child timeline. Nintendo will never admit to any Link relationship as canon because they want the fans to come up with their own theories. But in this case, there is tons of evidence that claims a Malon and Link relationship. They literarily are "spelling it out for you" based on the events of twilight princess. Hello, Eponas song?? Something couldn't be more obvious! Great video 👏🏻
•Eponas song •Epona •Brown hair(Combination of Blonde and Red hair) •one of the only differences between the tp and oot map is Lon lon ranch is gone seemingly renamed then moved to the lost woods(Links home) along with the temple of time(a few remains of lon lon ranch are left behind). •Gossip stone says malon saw link as a knight in shining armor, heroes shade is wearing golden armor.
9:07 - speaking of that, I have a theory to add. What if the relationship between Kafei and Anju is an allegory for the relationship between Link and Saria? They both like each other, but because one of them is stuck as a kid the relationship falls apart. Perhaps Link's attempt at fixing Kafei and Anju's relationship reflects his own desire to want to make something work with Saria; unfortunately for Link, he knows there's nothing he can do for his own situation, so maybe he imagines fixing an impossible situation for a couple as a form of personal consolation.
Yeah for me it has always been a given as my head canon, Link and Malon end up together. There is just too much evidence that points towards it, Twilight Princess being the biggest reason but there's also Majora's Mask's Cremia and Romani sure but don't forget the "love triangle" of Cremia, Anju and Kafei which kind of parallels the idea of Malon, Zelda and Link, if we consider that Termina was this "dream world", this parallel world to help Link cope with his internal issues.
We are talking about the same princess who screwed her timeline by sending Link back and not having any means to stop Ganondorf and basically flooding Hyrule.
Oh god idk. I'll likely have to make a video for Totk, but that video was an hour so I could repeat some info, but definitely not repeat everything from that video, PLUS Totk info 😂
So Links are always descendants of other Links, I always believed that a Link could be born anywhere and because of destiny he will be a Link’s avatar.
Here my opinions, from my fav to least fav OOT pairing: Well, Saria never ages in appearance, but she could be several 100s years old by now, so if people consider this ship inappropriate, they should blame her instead of him. 😁 As for her role as a sage, I think when Link gets back in time, he could change the future and somehow manage to make Mido be the sage, which would give Mido more character development as well as allow Link and Saria to remain in the same World. But since Link still has some journeys to do, he has to leave the forest every now and then, making her the new definition of a "stay at home wife". As for Nabooru, she is obviously a few years older than him, but when Link grows up, that's not really a problem. One problem remains, and this is once again her role as sage. But who sould replace her? There are two options IMO, which would be either Ganondorf if Link somehow can convince him to turn good, or Ingo from the farm, because he already experienxced the brainwashing, just like Nabooru. Malon is a good choice, she is cute, a diligent worker and is, for a change, *not* a sage, therefore the most uncomplicated relationship. 😊 Ruto is kind of hard to imagine as a serious Relationship. She has a crush on Link, but the marriage is kind of arranged/forced. If Link refused, he couldn't get the Zora Stone. So yeah, she basically put her crush on him over the fate of the World. 😅 And it's questionable if Humans and Zora are compatible for making children. Princess Zelda - NO! She has two souls (according to the Manga, Sheik is an own personality), is hard to meet (no person is worth to deal with those annoying guards everytime they meet), can turn into a man (while becoming Sheik) and on top of that it's a cliché that the Hero needs to get the Princess. 😂 Honorable mentions from other Games: TWW: Medli x Link is my favourite couple from TWW, and actually my second fav from all Games. 😊 Link x Zelda: Well, this time Zelda is more suitable than in OOT, but again her other personality ruins everything. 😂 Skyward Sword: Fi is pretty cute, and her personality from being completely rational to thankfulness in the end is great. The Shop girl is the best love interest in the Game, because it's not necessary for the Story/programmed, but it takes time for the player to make her fall for him. 😊 Zelda - NEVER in this Game. She hid the fact that she was Hylia, causing him to be attacked by monsters... oh yeah, and she almost killed him at the beginnibg because she didn't believe his bird wouldn't appear. Sorry, but while in the other Games, the Main problem with Zelda was her other self or the fact that it's a cliché. But this time, Zelda is the problem all by herself. Twilight Princess: Obviously, Ilia x Link. 😊
Link and Malon forever. Before the official timeline came out, I always thought he was literally the girl of his dreams due to Majora’s Mask and Marin. Then Twilight Princess with Link working on a farm.
Gonna be honest, after playing Skyward Sword, and WildTears, I’ve always imagined Link and Zelda’s relationship as reincarnated lovers that always end up meeting each other in each life
I always thought Link ended up with Malon. In Ocarina of Time Malon shows she has a crush on him. Talon's comment after the Cookoo game, the Gossip Stone mentioning Malon dreams of a knight in shining armor who will sweep her away. Then there's Romani who also has a crush on Link and how Link really enjoyed the hug from Cremia who they successfully make it to Clock Town (puberty alert.) Then look at the 2D games. The Zelda in the original game is a redhead. The girl in Link's Awakening, Marin, who seems to like Link and he seems like her is also a redhead. Then it seems very likely that in Twilight Princess that Link being a rancher is likely the great grandson (not sure home many generations later) of the Ocarina of Time Link and Malon. Link seems to like girls with orange hair.
actually all the "evidence" that Malon and Link got together is just evidence that oot link is an ancestor of tp link. Link bought Epona, so Epona is Link's, she's not Malon's anymore, Epona's music, Link knew and could have taught anyone. As for the presence of NPCs in Majoras Mask, honestly it's more about the world of Termina than about link. Besides, we don't know how much time passed between MM and TP. Aside from the fact that the royal family is said to have enjoyed the link, a marriage would likely not have been prevented. Besides, TP Link is the only Hylian in a village of humans who don't know their parents, so TP Link could have been born anywhere. And the fact that he is a farmer means nothing about who his ancestors were.
Hear me out: If MM is a journey into Link's psyche: His counterpart is Kafei, who is in love with Anju, but recently got de-aged and thus doesn't want her or his mother to see him that way. Perhaps Link feels similarly about the Cucco girl in Ocarina and ends up with her!
You really opened my eyes to the Link/Malon potential in Oot. When I was younger, I was hardcore Zelda/Link all the way. (Now I'm more Gannondorf/Zelda, but that's purely fanon.) But think about it. Link loves the forest, exploration, adventuring and I think he would fit more with Malon. Malon loves horses, the outdoors, the wild and the forest. Zelda would be a Princess becoming Queen and have to do her royal duties, running state affairs, politics all that. I think Link would find it suffocating and probably want to settle down with a humble, peaceful life after all his adventures.
*ahem* There’s a Manga for Twilight Princess that explains Link’s Backstory, and…. Well, if you don’t want spoilers, I’d suggest you stop reading, but if you don’t care, then: Link was originally born and raised in a far away town on the border of the desert where he was trained in the art of combat. They were told that their city was built to protect that side of Hyrule from bandits and criminals from the desert. He wound up in Ordon after the village mysteriously disappeared. Viola. Backstory ✨
Nah saria is young links girl idc. I think the kokiri at large represent the child in all of us and how we ha to leave the innocence of childhood behind, and I like to think she was his first soul mate. There's so much nostalgia looking at the stump expecting to see her there, but she's transcended it also especially hits hard that I was young links age when I first played this. Shes also the only one you can speak with telepathically through the magic of the ocarina
Well Saria doesn’t age physically, but theoretically she could be around for hundreds of years, and wouldn’t have the childlike nature of the other Kokiri… If the species literally can’t grow physically you can’t right off relations for them arguably, it be like a Gerudo getting with a Zora or a Tolkien Elf with a Dwarf…
Yes but in Lord of the Rings they grow to appear as adults and then stay that way for nearly eternity. Whereas the Kokiri always look like kids, so yes they're old, but we still shouldn't support shipping adult Link with a child-like character just because of real-life concerns
@@Zeldom Not a shipper, but it wouldn't be inconceivable, since she's the Sage of Forest that she would be an exception. Plus, I heard a theory (might have been this channel) that Kokiri don't just drop dead the instant they leave the forest they grow old and die like everyone else. I've been watching all of Miyazaki's movies lately too, so I guess I could picture a cute, innocent romance budding between them as kids, like the characters in those movies.
@@Zeldom Well that's why it's fiction, right? Regardless, if they're actually an adult, why should it matter how small they are? They literally cannot age physically, but that's it. Why is it suddenly wrong to ship two adults together?
They're still considered children. The game even points that out, they never age into adults. I'm not going to be the one to justify shipping adult Link with a child, even if it's an immortal child. Plus, Saria always kinda felt more like the childhood first crush that you remember from time to time to me.
I like this breakdown and agree with the assessment. Curious though, where does it mention that Twilight Princess Link is a direct descendant of the Hero of Time?
I think after you play Twilight Princess for some time, either Hero's Shade will reveal that he is the Hero of Time, or you have to infer that he is the Hero of Time for yourself.
Maybe the point is that Zelda didn't want to take any more of Link's life trough battles and titles and sends him to a separate way that is why he would be with Malon, fail as a hero but living as a normal person
I wouldn't dismiss Ruto, Rutela from TP has blonde hair and her name has the Ru- prefix, which is definitely meant to be a reference to Ruto. Maybe Link actually did get married to Ruto and had a child(Rutela) before getting with someone else like Malon, either a divorce or possibly Malon being Link's mistress.
My headcannon states that while Ocarina of Time, Link had not much interest in Romance because he was mentally a child (atleast until he was forced to grow up because of his quests in both Hyrule and Termina,) and when he returned to Hyrule Link chose Malon because of her simple and relatable origins and also his interactions with Cremia and Romani.
With the fact that Twilight Princess now has a manga adaptation with a lot more backstory and lots more lore added, are you going to consider doing another video?
Maybe after those who focus on the plot successfully figure out how to explain the difference between the time of master sword's built in the game and the manga.
While I agree that Saria is the wrong option, I’m confused by the eternal youth. Wouldn’t she still gain life experience as time passes? I imagine she’d eventually be in a similar situation to Gertrude the Gruesome, where everyone (RIGHTFULLY) goes “I’m not comfortable with this” whenever she tries to start a relationship.
Lol Link is a mythical magical being created by destiny to save the world. He transcends time. He could never be with Zelda he is her protector is like a fairy boy not marriage material. He doesn’t feel any romance or have those kind of feelings he is too simple for that. Whole he definitely has a harem after him Link is like the teenage Jesus of that world he is very clean and pure.
For majora mask not being real or a dream I personally think that it is link's way to the after life like he is tested to see if he is still a hero worthy of of the afterlife if he didn't beat majora he would go to hell and if he won he would go to heaven
Here me out, Genghis Khan got an entire harem for conquering most of asia, should it be too hard to believe that the hero of time, a legendary hero and very very handsome man, couldn't have a harem of ladies including a ranch girl, a princess, a fish princess and a much older thief lady whos basically 'naughty teacher'? He boinked them all. Thats what I believe.
You think Genghis Khan had WILLING partners? Because this is the thing, many conquerors had "harems"... but they also took shit by force. I hope you get why using him as an example is a very BAD idea.
Personally...i think that kokirl girl with the olive green hair and double bun tails that sasis link like he is a newb is strangely his best match but unfortunately Kokirl can't grow up my second choice is for link is the garudo that matches your colors it's like a sexy challenge and finally number 3 is definitely Impa she is an powerful woman with a great bust and mysteries
Well your ending statement makes so much sense BUT Really TP is just a couple gens ahead? I thought the games were hundreds if not thousands years apart...
About a century according to Aonuma. Though that shouldn't necessarily be taken as gospel, but it's the only guidance we have on the time gap between them
it would be interesting if there were twelve sages in one zelda game and they were the sages of blood, and one of them is the sage of light, One of them is the sage of breath, One of them is the sage of life, One of them is the sage of doom, One of them is the sage of rage, one of them is the sage of space, One of them is the sage of hope, One of them is the sage of void, one of them is the sage of mind, one of them is a sage of heart, and finally one of them is the sage of time,
There are at least 11 possible sages: wind, light, spirit, water, time, earth, shadow, fire, weather, lightning, and forest. We never meet a weather sage, but the Ether medallion from LttP hints that one exists.
i was so confused when i played the nabooru scene like was she hinting at smth with a 9 yr old kid? and i thought nintendo wouldnt do that but i guess they were diffrent back then
Well i kind of disagree with that cause if you listen into the context of how princess ruto said it it was implying that link may secretly like zelda cause ruto even said "you cant hide anything from me" and they were specifically talking about ruto giving link her eternal love. I see what you mean but if look into the context she basically saying you got eyes for another girl not me
Thank you! You're the only person I've come across who's mentioned this. It's a romance trope by now that the person who is in-love with you can tell if you have someone else on your mind. She basically gave Link away to Zelda when she told Link to "thank Sheik for me" too, cause she knew that Sheik was Zelda; how else would she know that Zelda was alive?
I always thought Malon was links future wife because with twilight princess's link being the hero of times grandchild, if zelda was the mother I'd expect the royal family to protect the prince he'd be as they're so protective of the hyrule royal bloodline
Also In the night theme of Twilight Princess the singing uses Malon’s voice. It’s like TP Link’s great grandmother is singing a lullaby to him when it’s nighttime.
@@morthurarrgan I always thought I was hearing it like malon singing but I didn't know It actually was, had a feeling I was hearing it different to what it was, awesome to know that though thank you.
Also fun fact, Ilia's theme shares the same leitmotif's of Epona's Song, which kindof makes Ilia the Malon of Twilight Princess
@@Zeldom excellent use of the word leitmotif
yes, i know, but Zelink
The Zora sapphire thing is so funny to me considering that Link, a 9 year old kid raised by other kids in a forest his whole life, likely has no idea what marriage or an engagement is
He just thinks it's nice he got the stone and is one step closer to his goal, that's all
Ruto: Here's a precious ring, gifted to me by my mother, to prove that I am engaged to you, Link.
Link: oh hey cool rock
reminds me of how goku thought marriage was some kind of food when he promised to marry chichi as a child
@@kiyohimeisbetterthanmorgan220 oh my you're right.
i wonder if link gave the sapphire to Malon after the events of majora's mask.
in the spirit realm...
ruto: NOOOOOOO!!!
He actually does exactly this in the manga! Link exits Jabu Jabu and says "By the way Navi, what's an engagement ring?"
You forgot to mention that The hero of Twilight also knows Epona's song and has a horse that shares its appearance and name with The hero of time's Epona implying that both Epona's song and name were passed down through the generations and it further strengthens the theory that Malon is the love of the hero of time since Epona is Malons horse not Links.
Honestly, the most Link and Nabooru would have is a “with benefits” relationship that will break off mutually.
Malon definitely seems most likely especially if the whole Majora Mask was his subconscious theory is true. Malon just makes too much sense.
Plus she's adorable 😅
Yeah just like with link’s awakneing’s marin being a manifestation of his dream wife (or potentially Zelda)
Talon: "How would you like to marry my daughter? Just kidding! Hahahaha, unless..."
Yes please!
Nothing makes me more happy than discussing a character's love life; whether it's canon or not
Man choosing between Malon and OoT Zelda is so dang difficult. One you have to consider all the evidence of Twilight Princess Link, Ordon Villiage and the Hero of Time. 2 its such a pain that OoT Link and Zelda can't even be together because of those backing evidence. Like after watching the Hero's Purpose videos (by Majorlinks) literally wanted me to see Link and Zelda together and the Hero's Purpose make it very dang convincing but at the same time have to hold the account for Malon.
Its pretty clear Hero's Purpose is heading the MaLink route.
@@SUP-h9d that was pretty much my intention too when Malon appeared up in Hero's Purpose. But the interaction between Zelda and Link in Hero's Purpose was so good too, it's hard not rooting for Link and Zelda.
Man you watch episode 5 of a hero’s purpose? Emotional stuff let me tell ya 😢
For me, Ordonian Link is proof that Link didn't get with Malon.
Malon was the heiress of a lucrative ranch in the middle of Hyrule. Meanwhile, Ordonian Link is the only Hylian working as a ranchhand for someone else's ranch in the outskirts of Hyrule.
Epona's song seems to be a community song which everyone uses, as Malo's father summons a hawk with it.
The only way I can see Ordonian Link as a descendant of Malink is if one of Malink's children/grandchildren visited Ordon and abandoned the mother and baby to their fate. But, a Zelink child/grandchild could also act like that.
honestly ive always loved the idea of Malon and Link being together. its just so sweet 😭
I always thought Malon was cute when I played Ocarina of Time 3D as a kid. Also in the manga, Malon falls for Link when he saves the farm. Of course in the manga, Link has a crush on Zelda, which even Malon recognizes.
Yeah the manga is pretty great. I exclude them from my videos since they can't be used as canon or even secondary sources, but they are definitely great stories!
@@Zeldom I honestly would considered the OOT manga an companion story that features parts that weren't in the game.
While a hero's purpose leads up to him with potentially Malon, Link X Zelda's relationship served as a beautiful and tragic love story.... even TP Zelda obtains her ancestor's memories in the TP manga.
We can never have enough Link's loves content! Bless you, Andy. Happy new year!
Thanks! Have a great year yourself :)
@@Zeldom hi
Considering how his spirit looks in tp, he may as well have had a shining armor later in life
I've been a Malink shipper ever since I discovered Linked Universe. I was a Zelink shipper before that, but honestly, Malon makes a lot more sense for this particular incarnation of Link than Zelda does. And their relationship in LU is just so wholesome :)
actually all the "evidence" that Malon and Link got together is just evidence that oot link is an ancestor of tp link. Link bought Epona, so Epona is Link's, she's not Malon's anymore, Epona's music, Link knew and could have taught anyone. As for the presence of NPCs in Majoras Mask, honestly it's more about the world of Termina than about link. Besides, we don't know how much time passed between MM and TP. Aside from the fact that the royal family is said to have enjoyed the link, a marriage would likely not have been prevented. Besides, TP Link is the only Hylian in a village of humans who don't know their parents, so TP Link could have been born anywhere. And the fact that he is a farmer means nothing about who his ancestors were.
My first approach to Ocarina of Time was the manga adaptation. The author was more of a Zelink person and her adaptation made it clear but Link's interactions with Malon were rather cute there.
Mine was bad Ocarina of Time....
LMAO Talon really is that dad who "left to get milk" and never came back
Hey that sound like my da......
😭 Man this got dark 😆
I was hoping you'd bring up Cremia's implied feelinga for Kafei; he's one of the few residents of Termina who supposedly doesn't have a Hyulian counterpart. I say supposedly because I think it's possible he's some kind of parallel version of Link, who you even sorta get to play as. There's also that scene where Cremia is talking with Link about the wedding, while also mentioning how glad she is for his company and how she's been feeling lonely. Coincidence?
Pretty sure he does have a counterpart in the potion shopkeeper in hyrule castle/ kakariko.
Also the whole theme of "an adult in a child's body," now that I think of it. That's basically what the Hero of Time is at the time of Majora's Mask. Kafei is cursed, and in a way so is Link after the events of OoT. I like to think that in a way, helping Kafei and Anju reunite and saving Termina is a way for Link to come to grips with his own trauma. It is also likely therapeutic to actually save a land where the residents will remember him as a hero.
@@roguesquadron521 You know, I never really thought of that. In OoT, Link was a child in an adult body for half the game. In MM, Kafei was an adult in a child body. Kinda leads more credence to the "Kafei is Link's Terminian counterpart" theory.
Shipping is a guilty pleasure lol. I always liked Saria the most in OoT. In fact, she's in my top three fav ships with Link in the series, along with Medli and Midna. But of course, Saria being a Kokiri and Link being a Hylian, that'd never actually work. I believe the theory that Link ultimately ends up with Malon, as both start the game off the same age, age together, Malon's Dad pushes Link to marry her one day, and there's even a Gossip Stone somewhere in the game stating Malon is waiting for a "knight in shining armor" to sweep her off her feet. I like Malon too, though I find Romani and Cremia in Majora's Mask far more interesting as characters.
I also personally find it more interesting story-wise if The Hero of Time marries Malon. Especially if we reframe the question from "Who does Link love?" to "what life would Link want for himself?" After OoT he's a traumatized adult in a child's body, sent back to relive his childhood but no longer able to enjoy it as such. So he leaves to find the one thing that, in his mind, bound him to his roots as a child among the Kokiri: Navi.
Majora's Mask - whether it's real or some sort of dream or allegory - is Link's reckoning with his life and future. He fights his demons, rediscovers some of the simple joys in the world, and finds new hope. It's heavily implied in both MM and TP that The Hero of Time returned to Hyrule after the events of the story and became a royal knight (the Hero's Shade wears knightly armour). He probably took this position as a way to keep fulfilling his perceived duty, but I imagine he would find it exhausting to be in a relationship with Princess Zelda as well. Being a knight in service to the royal family is one thing, but he would still be traumatized from the events of his young life, and all that proximity to the burden he had to endure would be too much. Zelda is the largest tie to the life he clearly just wanted to escape in Majora's Mask.
I could see Malon and the ranch being Link's respite. It's an escape to a more humble, down-to-earth life. Malon's laid-back, playful, less solemn personality would be a breath of fresh air. Perhaps being in her proximity would make it easier for him to feel some of the childlike happiness return to him? He'd visit often as a child (maybe even move in - where else would he go?) and find comfort in his and Malon's friendship. As they grow up, deeper feelings would emerge. They would eventually be married, maybe found a new village in the outskirts of the Kingdom, and pass on the ranch-heritage + Epona's Song to their descendants, culminating in The Hero of Twilight.
I just think it's neat!
I've always vibed with the idea that when Link returned he moved into the farm with Malon and Talon, because throughout OoT Talon was literally the only adult who actually treated Link like the child he was. He never told Link 'Hey go do this insane and dangerous thing k thanks bye' or allowed him into an area that he knew was not child friendly, he'd tease him instead, play games with him and talked to him like a kid saying things like 'are you here to play with Malon? She's out back'. I can totally see Talon kind of becoming a father figure to Link and encouraging them to get together, that would be an amazing fanfic actually!
@@Tam00393 I'd totally read that! Link's other father figure tragically died in front of his eyes, so the poor kid's due for some parental figures
I believe that Zelink happened. As it was addressed in an interview if OOT/MM Link were to have a girlfriend. He would want it to be Zelda. Several characters make remarks about how he's searching for the princess in game. Like Ruto...his self proclaimed fiancé. Pointed out how he was worried/thinking about Zelda. Impa addressed to Link not worry about Princess she is safe. Even if it was to learn the Song of Time in Majora's Mask. Link thought of Zelda...and was in a deep daze that he snapped out of...to me indicates he was happily daydreaming. Indicates Zelda as a possible love interest. Also who does LINK go to as soon as he ends up back in the past. Indicated he has his memories intact. He goes to see Zelda...yes, it's also to warn her. And with the different timelines. I think OOT Zelink was the one that destined for them to be tragic lovers.
Link and Zelda could have a tragic forbidden type of relationship. They couldn't marry because of his status. But still be lovers that result in a child. For all we know. Link could even been a bodyguard to Zelda at some point. As a theory. There's many that go on in my head.
The thing is TP Link and Zelda have NO romantic interest in each other. Link addressed he didn't have an male heirs to pass on his skills. So this makes me believe he had a daughter. Who could had two children or what not....and TP Link and Zelda are distant related. As say a Zelda could take the throne...and another descendant wouldn't have to worry of such. Just because TP Link knows Epona's song. Doesn't mean he ended up with Malon. Malon taught Link the song...and Epona became LINK'S horse even in Majora's Mask.
There also could be reasons TP Link ended up on a ranch. It doesn't always mean their a descendant.
Fun fact: In the beta ending for OOT, Link rides off on Epona, with Malon. Also? I think one of the main reasons why people always tend to ship Zelda and Link? Because it fits the classic fairy tale. Hero saves princess from the evil beast/wizard, then the hero and princess fall in love and get married. And hey, it seems they likely DO in some games. Also? OOT is actually the first game that gives multiple options for Link, if you think about it. Marin was the first non-Zelda romantic option we saw, (And actually, the first that actual chemistry seems to form with. Zeldas past were barely characters to know.) And such is a trend that's carried on heavily.
Proof?
Wait really? Where could i know more about that beta ending?
Friend, I don't know where you saw this, but in the beta of the game there is none of what you said, I went back and I didn't find anything, if it's true, tell me where you saw it so we can find it and check it out. Besides the fact that there is a chance that Marín is a representation of Zelda in the dream world, just as Tarin would be a representation of Link's uncle.
@@DennisRLuna
Think they're mixing it up with the Manga
I always saw OoT as a kind of love story, which I think even Miyamoto said once, in that there is a love between Link and Zelda but they are fated not to be with each other. I think Link does end up marrying Malon though, and TP Link is their great grandchild - explaining why he lives on a ranch and knows Epona's song.
When I first played OOT, I used to make-believe that Malon was my wife who I settle down with after the story
After a long day of side-questing, I would ride Epona "home" to LonLon Ranch and do "farm-husband" stuff
It's a little embarrassing to admit now, but that's why Malon made the most sense to me as an actual "happily ever after" partner for Link to grow old with
Zelda just has too much going on
I can’t wait for this! It always make me happy to see you make videos about OoT :D
Honestly, I'm a sucker for the "childhood friends turned to love" trope, which is a reason I like Miphlink so much in BOTW. It's also why I love LinkxSaria. But I also love Malink in this game because it can morph into the same thing. I love LinkxSaria because Saria loves Link wholly unconditionally: she loved him before he ever became a hero. With Malink it's not quite the case, but it's not really a rescue romance per se. Plus, in the Child timeline, she will likely never know him as "The Hero".
This version of Link is probably the most popular with women to date. Just look at the sheer number of them who like him.
I'm probably going to go to the BOTW vid after this, because I have thoughts on the major ships there. All good ones, though. I'm no naval commander unless I'm playing World of Warships, you know, with real virtual ships. With guns. That go boom. Love me the U.S.S. Massachusetts! And HMS Warspite!
Edit: To clarify, I understand that LinkxSaria is inappropriate as it appears, but we've no idea how old Saria actually is, and Saria is far, far more mature and worldly than her peers. If Saria were given the opportunity to grow up as Link has, she would be number 1 on the list by a wide, wide margin.
You also left out Navi. The developers have explicitly stated that Navi fell in love with Link over the course of the adventure.
I agree with your interpretation of how Saria’s age works, but… her being far OLDER is also offputting.
Link is too much man for any 7 women. He'll need at least 12.
I believe Malon was the proper partner for Link. For once, he can actually live by her side. And also I think that their interaction seemed to be the only want that spoke the loudest in volumes. Since Twilight Link is a descendant of OOT Link, I don’t see anyone else but Malon to be his wife to create a family.
It says a lot about Link when you have to analyzing the people who he might love 😏
Man this thumbnail gives me such nostalgia lol. I miss the older anime style of animation so much, wish it would make a comeback.
Very good video by the way, Malink is probably the best ship in my opinion.
I have to agree with your conclusion that Malon makes the most sense. However, don't discount Saria completely. She has the best emotional connection to Link, and she's a *Sage* -- she could likely use her magic to grow up, even if that's not possible for any other Kokiri. Either way, i just *can't* drop the ship I've had since I was a teenager myself in the 90s.
an episode just released and it already has actual captions instead auto-captions?! Thank goodness I've already followed you somehow haha
Yep I just copy/paste my video scripts into TH-cam's subtitles and it's smart enough to get the timing right. It's not perfect but still a step up from auto-generated :)
Link and Malon are canon in my book.
I like to assume it was Saria in the long haul myself. In TP the Kokori are gone, and following the flow of time after that, BotW has the Koroks in their place.
The Hero of Time's journey throughout the world might have emboldened plenty of Kokori to abandon their immortality to experience the world at large, and Saria definitely would be the first for the chance to be with Link again.
Of course the whole Kokori/Korok thing is the only thing I like it for, and it holds about as much weight as the Rutella business mentioned elsewhere in the comments here. Who can say?
Malon was always my first choice. It makes sense lore wise with Twilight Princess, too.
Great video!
Sorry big text and theory incoming!
MaLink makes a lot of sense but ZeLink is definitely not as impossible as people like to put it. I figured out a way in my headcanon with how it might work with Twilight Princess. What if Zelda and Link had multiple children and one of them ended up marrying Malon's child. Both of them decided to leave the royal life behind and moved on to a calm farming life. Link and Zelda's child would have probably heard of Epona's song from well, Link himself and Malon's child from Malon. And I believe that would cause the bloodlines to split apart. Link has descendants in the royal family, but his descendants in the farm life are the ones who after several generation lead to Twilight Princess Link. This would make him and TP Zelda very distant cousins at most I think. (Though If you wanted to ship TP Link and Zelda with this theory, I suppose real royals have never been stopped by being even closer Cousins. Look at the British Royal Family in a not so distant past. Not saying that it isn't messed up, but It wouldn't seem far fetched for a royal.)
I feel the issue or maybe even the point with the game is, that we don't see how Link reacts in game. We don't see his pain, his warmth, his love. We have to imagine what he feels. That is up to everyonee. But to me it came off that Zelda was pained to let him go. She wanted to put his happiness before hers by sending him back in time. And that she might have been hurt to let him go onto his adventure in Majoras Mask too. I feel that if not for the whole timeline shenanigans, the ending of Ocarina of time would have been a perfect ending to tease a romance. The lost hearts are able to reunite.
That being said, I think MaLink would be the easiest way to connect OoT and TP. The signs are clear and make sense. ZeLink needs a few more explanations to make it work, but I think with enough generations, it's not that hard to imagine it. But whoever Link ended up with, I hope Link had at least some happy years with the love he chose. It's really sad how neither Zelda, nor Malon nor Link get a happy ending, no matter how you put it. Either one of the girls, Malon or Zelda, who both feel for him, end up without Link. But both of them would lose him early to a battle of some sorts after having children with him. So Zelda or Malon's children would lose their Father too. And Link ends up as a spirit filled with regrets, who deserved so much better.
I admit I'm a big Zelink Fan but I can see MaLink as a serious possibility. But in my head canon, after the Hero's Shade passes on all his knowledge to Link, he reunites with his love in the afterlife. It could be Malon if that is your head canon, but in mine it is Zelda. And what she says to him is "Let's go home, where you are supposed to be, how you are supposed to be."
I could be mistaken, but I think Hyrule Historia said TP is only 100 years after OoT. Which makes a multi-generational theory where Link's kid and descendants left behind the royal life a bit hard to do in such a short time. Aside from that detail though, I do think your head canon is a valid possibility!
@@lindenbree9188 I think the Historia doesn't mention that, but that info comes from an interview with Aonuma who said it was one or more hundred years later.
Looked it up again to be sure. It's not stated in the Historia. Personally I believe it is probably a few centuries, most likely more than one, with how drastically things changed in Hyrule.
another point to note that makes Malon more valid is that the Hero of Twilight, Link has dirty blond hair, which is found mostly in those that have genetics for both blond and red hair. that and as far as we know the only person Malon thought Epona's song to was (Hero of Time) Link and it would make sense that the song would be passed down
i saw that sneaky little "this is the best video on youtube" in the search bar and i agree cuz this is entertaining me lol
I’ve usually been a Gerudo fan, but I will say Malon is an absolutely lovely woman. Redheads are always my favorites.
My man
I like the tragic route where he always loves Zelda first, but her status as a princess and his as a nobody - or a knight depending on the game - renders that a forbidden relationship. This in turn causes Link to settle with protecting her from afar. Eventually finding his own family with a kind woman who undersstands when he confesses this. Thus her tragedy - in this case Malon - is that she knows he'll up and leave without hesitation if Zelda needs him but will also come back when she's safe.
If you ask me, it fits with the whole theme of tagedy and curses in each game.
After all, isn't the whole series happening because Link was too in love to stay out of Demise' curse? And Hylia too unwilling to part with him and thus setting off Skyward Sword?
This is definitely my new head cannon! Skyward sword was my first Zelda game so I always end up pairing up Link with Zelda now. But considering TP story, I am more inclined believe he ended up with Malon.
With your version though, I can pretend he died unfulfilled since he never actually got to be with his Zelda.
Always remember kids the reason link got so many love interests in ocarina of time his because originally at the end of the game you would be able to choose with who link would stay with
it is worth noting that the manga would seem to suggest Zelda as more likely, but it's also a bit fuzzy on where exactly link comes from.
These videos usually fail to poi t out an important detail. Link already has Epona in Majora's Mask. This tells us clearly that Link spent time with and became close with Malon when he was returned to the child timeline. Malon would not have trusted just anybody with taking Epona. Link simply having Epona in Majora's Mask is indicative of his close bond with Malon.
Yes I did forget to include that in this one. It was in the original video and is described in the Tragedy of Time video I showcase in this video.
If the Hero of Time got together with Zelda that would mean that the Hero of Twilight would be related, possibly siblings, with the Zelda of his time. Idk that would seem weird to me. I'm also a defender of the Link x Malon idea. It seems more natural as well. With Zelda there'll always be a power dynamic one way or another. With Malon I think they would look each other eye to eye.
Every time I hear about the "Termina isn't real" stuff I just have to think how Skull Kids backstory is directly linked to Termina and how it doesn't make sense
That's because in the og manual for the game Nintendo very clearly told us that Termina was a parallel world to Hyrule, equal and real in every way, it wasn't until later that Nintendo decided to try to retcon Majora's Mask completely. The cutscenes in the game and the stories told by Granny don't make sense that Termina was someone's fever dream or a creation of Majora's Mask's dark magic, it clearly existed before and always had. But this is why almost no one considers the official encyclopedia canon.
@ even the Historia considered it a real place. It’s just the newer stuff.
@Tam00393 Maybe Termina is a world where last-Thursday-ism is real?
If we assume that Zelda and link in OoT got together it might bring up some issues, and i don't mind the fact that Link in TP is a farm boy.
Cause if we assume that this is the canon paring wouldnt that mean that the Link and Zelda from TP are... Related? Cause i mean if every new Zelda in the timeline is a descendant from the last that means that the Zelda in TP is unequivocally a descendant from the Zelda in OoT, right? Like TP Link IF we assume OoT Link and Zelda got together.
Well, yes. They would be cousins to some degree, depending on how many generations there were between MM and TP. But that didn't stop European royals in the real world, now did it?
If TP Link is the descendent of OoT Link, then if he married:
*Saria:* Nope! Never happened and never will! She's a female version of Peter Pan! Out of the question!
*Nabooru:* Hard to think about other than TP Link might start the adventure in a desert or something. Also, she's older than Link.
*Ruto:* TP Link would be part-Zora and he wouldn't have any problems underwater without Zora Armor.
It's either Zelda or Malon but the latter makes more sense.
Glad to see you using the 3DS footage this time!
Here for the premiere.
Zelda: My mom always said "never do trust a ginger" 😂
Malon: [sneezes]
This does make the most sense, especially for the child timeline. Nintendo will never admit to any Link relationship as canon because they want the fans to come up with their own theories. But in this case, there is tons of evidence that claims a Malon and Link relationship. They literarily are "spelling it out for you" based on the events of twilight princess. Hello, Eponas song?? Something couldn't be more obvious! Great video 👏🏻
•Eponas song
•Epona
•Brown hair(Combination of Blonde and Red hair)
•one of the only differences between the tp and oot map is Lon lon ranch is gone seemingly renamed then moved to the lost woods(Links home) along with the temple of time(a few remains of lon lon ranch are left behind).
•Gossip stone says malon saw link as a knight in shining armor, heroes shade is wearing golden armor.
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Awesome Video Bro!
6:52 In other words, he’s going like,
“Just kidding 😂”
“Unless?”
9:07 - speaking of that, I have a theory to add. What if the relationship between Kafei and Anju is an allegory for the relationship between Link and Saria? They both like each other, but because one of them is stuck as a kid the relationship falls apart. Perhaps Link's attempt at fixing Kafei and Anju's relationship reflects his own desire to want to make something work with Saria; unfortunately for Link, he knows there's nothing he can do for his own situation, so maybe he imagines fixing an impossible situation for a couple as a form of personal consolation.
Yeah for me it has always been a given as my head canon, Link and Malon end up together. There is just too much evidence that points towards it, Twilight Princess being the biggest reason but there's also Majora's Mask's Cremia and Romani sure but don't forget the "love triangle" of Cremia, Anju and Kafei which kind of parallels the idea of Malon, Zelda and Link, if we consider that Termina was this "dream world", this parallel world to help Link cope with his internal issues.
"Shipping them together is wildly inappropriate"
You say that as if that's ever stopped anyone LMAO
We are talking about the same princess who screwed her timeline by sending Link back and not having any means to stop Ganondorf and basically flooding Hyrule.
Shipping is not a guilty pleasure of mine. I feel no guilt at all.
Before you even got there, I suspected the Ordon reasoning being the strongest case for Malon, who I do agree he ended up with.
I wonder how Tears of the Kingdom will affect your video on Link’s love interests in BotW and AoC.
Oh god idk. I'll likely have to make a video for Totk, but that video was an hour so I could repeat some info, but definitely not repeat everything from that video, PLUS Totk info 😂
So Links are always descendants of other Links, I always believed that a Link could be born anywhere and because of destiny he will be a Link’s avatar.
No they are not related to eachother usualy tp is one of the few exeptions from what we know
I hope there's a Malon/Marin equivalent in Tears of the kingdom
Here my opinions, from my fav to least fav OOT pairing:
Well, Saria never ages in appearance, but she could be several 100s years old by now, so if people consider this ship inappropriate, they should blame her instead of him. 😁 As for her role as a sage, I think when Link gets back in time, he could change the future and somehow manage to make Mido be the sage, which would give Mido more character development as well as allow Link and Saria to remain in the same World. But since Link still has some journeys to do, he has to leave the forest every now and then, making her the new definition of a "stay at home wife".
As for Nabooru, she is obviously a few years older than him, but when Link grows up, that's not really a problem. One problem remains, and this is once again her role as sage. But who sould replace her? There are two options IMO, which would be either Ganondorf if Link somehow can convince him to turn good, or Ingo from the farm, because he already experienxced the brainwashing, just like Nabooru.
Malon is a good choice, she is cute, a diligent worker and is, for a change, *not* a sage, therefore the most uncomplicated relationship. 😊
Ruto is kind of hard to imagine as a serious Relationship. She has a crush on Link, but the marriage is kind of arranged/forced. If Link refused, he couldn't get the Zora Stone. So yeah, she basically put her crush on him over the fate of the World. 😅 And it's questionable if Humans and Zora are compatible for making children.
Princess Zelda - NO! She has two souls (according to the Manga, Sheik is an own personality), is hard to meet (no person is worth to deal with those annoying guards everytime they meet), can turn into a man (while becoming Sheik) and on top of that it's a cliché that the Hero needs to get the Princess. 😂
Honorable mentions from other Games:
TWW:
Medli x Link is my favourite couple from TWW, and actually my second fav from all Games. 😊
Link x Zelda: Well, this time Zelda is more suitable than in OOT, but again her other personality ruins everything. 😂
Skyward Sword:
Fi is pretty cute, and her personality from being completely rational to thankfulness in the end is great.
The Shop girl is the best love interest in the Game, because it's not necessary for the Story/programmed, but it takes time for the player to make her fall for him. 😊
Zelda - NEVER in this Game. She hid the fact that she was Hylia, causing him to be attacked by monsters... oh yeah, and she almost killed him at the beginnibg because she didn't believe his bird wouldn't appear. Sorry, but while in the other Games, the Main problem with Zelda was her other self or the fact that it's a cliché. But this time, Zelda is the problem all by herself.
Twilight Princess:
Obviously, Ilia x Link. 😊
Link and Malon forever.
Before the official timeline came out, I always thought he was literally the girl of his dreams due to Majora’s Mask and Marin. Then Twilight Princess with Link working on a farm.
If Majora's Mask is a dream where did Kafie come out??. He doesnt appear anywhere in Ocarina of Time
Gonna be honest, after playing Skyward Sword, and WildTears, I’ve always imagined Link and Zelda’s relationship as reincarnated lovers that always end up meeting each other in each life
I always thought Link ended up with Malon. In Ocarina of Time Malon shows she has a crush on him. Talon's comment after the Cookoo game, the Gossip Stone mentioning Malon dreams of a knight in shining armor who will sweep her away. Then there's Romani who also has a crush on Link and how Link really enjoyed the hug from Cremia who they successfully make it to Clock Town (puberty alert.) Then look at the 2D games. The Zelda in the original game is a redhead. The girl in Link's Awakening, Marin, who seems to like Link and he seems like her is also a redhead. Then it seems very likely that in Twilight Princess that Link being a rancher is likely the great grandson (not sure home many generations later) of the Ocarina of Time Link and Malon. Link seems to like girls with orange hair.
Agree
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Glad you enjoyed it
Oot link ends up with Malon it’s hinted a few times in game and twilight princess link is the hero of times grandson who starts off on a ranch
Talon wants someone to work the farm
actually all the "evidence" that Malon and Link got together is just evidence that oot link is an ancestor of tp link. Link bought Epona, so Epona is Link's, she's not Malon's anymore, Epona's music, Link knew and could have taught anyone. As for the presence of NPCs in Majoras Mask, honestly it's more about the world of Termina than about link. Besides, we don't know how much time passed between MM and TP. Aside from the fact that the royal family is said to have enjoyed the link, a marriage would likely not have been prevented. Besides, TP Link is the only Hylian in a village of humans who don't know their parents, so TP Link could have been born anywhere. And the fact that he is a farmer means nothing about who his ancestors were.
Hear me out: If MM is a journey into Link's psyche: His counterpart is Kafei, who is in love with Anju, but recently got de-aged and thus doesn't want her or his mother to see him that way. Perhaps Link feels similarly about the Cucco girl in Ocarina and ends up with her!
Not the first fertilized egg they had
You really opened my eyes to the Link/Malon potential in Oot. When I was younger, I was hardcore Zelda/Link all the way. (Now I'm more Gannondorf/Zelda, but that's purely fanon.) But think about it. Link loves the forest, exploration, adventuring and I think he would fit more with Malon. Malon loves horses, the outdoors, the wild and the forest. Zelda would be a Princess becoming Queen and have to do her royal duties, running state affairs, politics all that. I think Link would find it suffocating and probably want to settle down with a humble, peaceful life after all his adventures.
Honestly I kinda agree the story fits better this way
8:10 what is the music here? It’s so beautiful.
*ahem*
There’s a Manga for Twilight Princess that explains Link’s Backstory, and…. Well, if you don’t want spoilers, I’d suggest you stop reading, but if you don’t care, then: Link was originally born and raised in a far away town on the border of the desert where he was trained in the art of combat. They were told that their city was built to protect that side of Hyrule from bandits and criminals from the desert. He wound up in Ordon after the village mysteriously disappeared. Viola. Backstory ✨
I love the manga but it's not canon
Link x the girl behind the counter of the Bombchu Bombing Challenge
These are the Zelda Waifus that I love the most.
So many Fan Fictions I have read as well as written about a few times during my younger years.
Nah saria is young links girl idc. I think the kokiri at large represent the child in all of us and how we ha to leave the innocence of childhood behind, and I like to think she was his first soul mate. There's so much nostalgia looking at the stump expecting to see her there, but she's transcended it also especially hits hard that I was young links age when I first played this. Shes also the only one you can speak with telepathically through the magic of the ocarina
Well Saria doesn’t age physically, but theoretically she could be around for hundreds of years, and wouldn’t have the childlike nature of the other Kokiri… If the species literally can’t grow physically you can’t right off relations for them arguably, it be like a Gerudo getting with a Zora or a Tolkien Elf with a Dwarf…
Yes but in Lord of the Rings they grow to appear as adults and then stay that way for nearly eternity. Whereas the Kokiri always look like kids, so yes they're old, but we still shouldn't support shipping adult Link with a child-like character just because of real-life concerns
@@Zeldom Not a shipper, but it wouldn't be inconceivable, since she's the Sage of Forest that she would be an exception. Plus, I heard a theory (might have been this channel) that Kokiri don't just drop dead the instant they leave the forest they grow old and die like everyone else. I've been watching all of Miyazaki's movies lately too, so I guess I could picture a cute, innocent romance budding between them as kids, like the characters in those movies.
Yeah, this feels like placing our cultural taboos on a different (and fictional) culture
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Well that's why it's fiction, right? Regardless, if they're actually an adult, why should it matter how small they are? They literally cannot age physically, but that's it. Why is it suddenly wrong to ship two adults together?
They're still considered children. The game even points that out, they never age into adults. I'm not going to be the one to justify shipping adult Link with a child, even if it's an immortal child.
Plus, Saria always kinda felt more like the childhood first crush that you remember from time to time to me.
Even as a kid I always thought link would end up with malon if anyone.
Saria stole Link's hyrulian kush and blazed up 😂
I like this breakdown and agree with the assessment. Curious though, where does it mention that Twilight Princess Link is a direct descendant of the Hero of Time?
I think after you play Twilight Princess for some time, either Hero's Shade will reveal that he is the Hero of Time, or you have to infer that he is the Hero of Time for yourself.
Also one of the Zelda lore books outright states at one point
Maybe the point is that Zelda didn't want to take any more of Link's life trough battles and titles and sends him to a separate way that is why he would be with Malon, fail as a hero but living as a normal person
I wouldn't dismiss Ruto, Rutela from TP has blonde hair and her name has the Ru- prefix, which is definitely meant to be a reference to Ruto.
Maybe Link actually did get married to Ruto and had a child(Rutela) before getting with someone else like Malon, either a divorce or possibly Malon being Link's mistress.
I wouldn’t call that hair. It looks more like French fries.
My headcannon states that while Ocarina of Time, Link had not much interest in Romance because he was mentally a child (atleast until he was forced to grow up because of his quests in both Hyrule and Termina,) and when he returned to Hyrule Link chose Malon because of her simple and relatable origins and also his interactions with Cremia and Romani.
With the fact that Twilight Princess now has a manga adaptation with a lot more backstory and lots more lore added, are you going to consider doing another video?
Maybe after those who focus on the plot successfully figure out how to explain the difference between the time of master sword's built in the game and the manga.
While I agree that Saria is the wrong option, I’m confused by the eternal youth. Wouldn’t she still gain life experience as time passes? I imagine she’d eventually be in a similar situation to Gertrude the Gruesome, where everyone (RIGHTFULLY) goes “I’m not comfortable with this” whenever she tries to start a relationship.
Lol Link is a mythical magical being created by destiny to save the world. He transcends time. He could never be with Zelda he is her protector is like a fairy boy not marriage material. He doesn’t feel any romance or have those kind of feelings he is too simple for that. Whole he definitely has a harem after him Link is like the teenage Jesus of that world he is very clean and pure.
i do have thing to say TP Link was not born in Ordan he was found by Russel in the woods
For majora mask not being real or a dream I personally think that it is link's way to the after life like he is tested to see if he is still a hero worthy of of the afterlife if he didn't beat majora he would go to hell and if he won he would go to heaven
Here me out, Genghis Khan got an entire harem for conquering most of asia, should it be too hard to believe that the hero of time, a legendary hero and very very handsome man, couldn't have a harem of ladies including a ranch girl, a princess, a fish princess and a much older thief lady whos basically 'naughty teacher'?
He boinked them all. Thats what I believe.
You think Genghis Khan had WILLING partners? Because this is the thing, many conquerors had "harems"... but they also took shit by force. I hope you get why using him as an example is a very BAD idea.
Hm, haven’t you covered this Link already? Did you have to make a singular Video about it too or something?
Personally...i think that kokirl girl with the olive green hair and double bun tails that sasis link like he is a newb is strangely his best match but unfortunately Kokirl can't grow up my second choice is for link is the garudo that matches your colors it's like a sexy challenge and finally number 3 is definitely Impa she is an powerful woman with a great bust and mysteries
10:25: Also, because remember: Fish are food. Not friends. :)
Oh yeah
Well your ending statement makes so much sense BUT
Really TP is just a couple gens ahead? I thought the games were hundreds if not thousands years apart...
About a century according to Aonuma. Though that shouldn't necessarily be taken as gospel, but it's the only guidance we have on the time gap between them
it would be interesting if there were twelve sages in one zelda game and they were the sages of blood, and one of them is the sage of light, One of them is the sage of breath, One of them is the sage of life, One of them is the sage of doom, One of them is the sage of rage, one of them is the sage of space, One of them is the sage of hope, One of them is the sage of void, one of them is the sage of mind, one of them is a sage of heart, and finally one of them is the sage of time,
There are at least 11 possible sages: wind, light, spirit, water, time, earth, shadow, fire, weather, lightning, and forest. We never meet a weather sage, but the Ether medallion from LttP hints that one exists.
@Cretaceous158 I don't remember commenting this...😨
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Bro Link was 16 when she said that 💀
i was so confused when i played the nabooru scene like was she hinting at smth with a 9 yr old kid? and i thought nintendo wouldnt do that but i guess they were diffrent back then
Well i kind of disagree with that cause if you listen into the context of how princess ruto said it it was implying that link may secretly like zelda cause ruto even said "you cant hide anything from me" and they were specifically talking about ruto giving link her eternal love. I see what you mean but if look into the context she basically saying you got eyes for another girl not me
Thank you! You're the only person I've come across who's mentioned this. It's a romance trope by now that the person who is in-love with you can tell if you have someone else on your mind. She basically gave Link away to Zelda when she told Link to "thank Sheik for me" too, cause she knew that Sheik was Zelda; how else would she know that Zelda was alive?
@@akward4210 yeah I've this in movies, tv shows, and even in my personal life. A girl can normally tell when you got feelings for another chick.
@@marioandultrachap Exactly!
Ruto was a Tsundere
Malon all the way!