Could you SURVIVE in Ocarina of Time?

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  • Do you think YOU could survive in Ocarina of Time? To be honest, I don't think you got it in you. What would you do if you came across a Stalchild in Hyrule Field at night? You'd probably give up on the spot. Me though? I'm built different. I would easily parry his attack, dash behind him, and slice him into 38 pieces with my katana before his bony brain could even comprehend what was happening. And all his skeletal friends would surely tremble in fear before my awesome display of might. Then word would spread amongst Ganondorf's forces that I am not a force to be trifled with.
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    Intro - Gerudo Valley (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
    00:43 - Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
    01:22 - Kokiri Forest (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
    02:00 - Hyrule Field Main Theme (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
    05:13 - Zora's Domain (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
    09:14 - Ganondorf's Theme (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
    12:24 - Water Temple (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
    15:41 - Kakariko Village (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
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  • @XxguaxinimxX.
    @XxguaxinimxX. 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1888

    Surviving Ocarina of Time for 3 days: 😃
    Surviving Majoras Mask for 3 days: 💀

    • @buttpiratesbuttpirate5913
      @buttpiratesbuttpirate5913 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

      Oh god most certainly 😨

    • @nathansmiddy732
      @nathansmiddy732 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +128

      That one pretty much forces you to go on the main quest yourself, huh? Unless you want to live for only three days or go completely bonkers just resetting the world every three days.

    • @buttsbrown2442
      @buttsbrown2442 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

      @@nathansmiddy732 I mean, if you get the ocarina, and you still remember the songs, you can play them all right away, right?

    • @jamalshelton5746
      @jamalshelton5746 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +72

      @@buttsbrown2442 that implies that you know how to play an ocarina.

    • @buttsbrown2442
      @buttsbrown2442 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

      @@jamalshelton5746 Aw, it's just a bottle with some holes in it, and you got three days to figure it out, how hard could it be? (Don't answer that.)

  • @exiledgoldfish6329
    @exiledgoldfish6329 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +861

    Let’s not forget though that pretty much every single body of water in Hyrule gets filtered through the Zora kings butt crack.

    • @slyfox7452
      @slyfox7452 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +113

      Protein?

    • @Delta040301
      @Delta040301 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +117

      Flavour.

    • @trli7117
      @trli7117 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +88

      There's a reason they need the well.

    • @greenyxd7298
      @greenyxd7298 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      his ass is clean. yours would be too if you flushed river amounts of water. but instead you have a disgusting inadequate ass compared to the kings

    • @RipleySawzen
      @RipleySawzen 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

      Only the purest water for Hyrule

  • @chaosvolt
    @chaosvolt 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +603

    Every moment you spend surviving, Ganondorf only grows more suavemente.

    • @slammbamm1977
      @slammbamm1977 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      Awesome reference 😂

    • @1th_to_comment.
      @1th_to_comment. 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      Oh no... his power waxes while mine wanes 😭

    • @rheokalyke367
      @rheokalyke367 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      Easy solution. Join the Gerudo. Join the suavemente dance party as a backup dancer.

    • @terminalvelocityrunner2202
      @terminalvelocityrunner2202 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rheokalyke367unless you’re a male. They’re a female society of WARRIORS if i remember correctly. So any males that try and join are probably not going to be in functional order for much longer. H**ny jokes aside, they didnt react well to Link’s trespassing in BotW, and i dont think they react well to male interlopers in various other games. Its safe to say male presence is not needed or wanted in their society. So “joining the Gerudo” is effectively a very selective solution. Sure you could probably barter or something with them. But i highly doubt their tolerance for anyone who isn’t biologically female or possibly an extremely difficult to pinpoint gender is going to last particularly long.

    • @ThePotatoWaveOfficial
      @ThePotatoWaveOfficial 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      The Dale Zelda Dale! dance should do the trick

  • @link1565V2
    @link1565V2 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +710

    "You blink and you find yourself in Link's house"
    Wheelchair users: "Guess I'll die."

    • @TangoStar
      @TangoStar 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

      Maybe Accessibility would be an interesting extra category or consideration on traversability

    • @clockworkkirlia7475
      @clockworkkirlia7475 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      @@TangoStar I would love that, personally. A little research on disability and mobility would be totally unique and really set this series apart.

    • @gurriato
      @gurriato 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      There are very few places both in fiction and in the real world where a cripple could survive on his own. Being "differently abled" would just mean "dying" in almost every situation.

    • @ligilokranz6556
      @ligilokranz6556 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@gurriato Well, if you saw how DnD is today it is something similar, to be more inclusive, people with disabilities they have access to a magical combat chair that can fly and allows them to be super agile, plus it never breaks and things like that. It doesn't make any sense, anyone who has healthy feet should also use it if it's so good. In worlds of fantasy and fiction where magic exists, those types of disabilities don't make sense.

    • @Graknorke
      @Graknorke 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@gurriato
      Damn if only there was some way for multiple organisms to work together so that one can cover the weaknesses of another...
      Unless something else kills you first disability is something that inevitably happens as one gets old and I don't know of any civilisation ever that didn't at least try to take care of its elderly.

  • @soj56
    @soj56 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +334

    The presence of scarecrows in Lake Hylia implies crops I think.

    • @emilyrobinson6080
      @emilyrobinson6080 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

      Especially since theyre standing in small tilled patches. Id imagine the old scientist or the fisherman grow things there to supplement fish and whatever else they might trade for with Zoras

    • @1th_to_comment.
      @1th_to_comment. 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@emilyrobinson6080 just gotta theft some seeds and grow my own crops

    • @Ilander86
      @Ilander86 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Plus how do you spur your horse to go faster? You feed them a carrot!
      I think Hyrule denizens just have social hangups with displaying vegetables in the open 😂

    • @shadesoftime
      @shadesoftime 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Also the windmill in Kakariko

    • @milokonna
      @milokonna 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think it's the "in-game" thing. Like, the crops exist in lore, but they are not present as something visible in the game. So if we treat this thought exercise as literally being sucked into the game as is, we can't obtain any, because they are not there.

  • @TheDufflebagGang
    @TheDufflebagGang 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1080

    For the Triforce bit, that's essentially what happens in Wind Waker- there is no Legendary Hero to reincarnate, so the Triforce of Courage just splits up and has to be found again. It's definitely a thing to think on.

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +301

      GREAT point, thank you. I tried to shut out the triforce gathering in that game out of my mind, so I'm glad someone reminded me.

    • @mr.personalspace7831
      @mr.personalspace7831 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +98

      A scavenger hunt like that would probably have more eager participants than just Link since the world isn't flooded.

    • @TheDufflebagGang
      @TheDufflebagGang 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@PretzelYT Same tbh lol It's why I never finished it as a kid- I did it all in one go and forgot to save. XnX

    • @vazazell5967
      @vazazell5967 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      You just need to wear green triforce tshirt to receive triforce like many neckbeards do

    • @SECONDQUEST
      @SECONDQUEST 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      Yeah that link isn't the hero of courage, the big fish says it. Or the tree

  • @enorma29
    @enorma29 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +569

    imagine having to consume 7.5 liters of water every 12 minutes

    • @mrfrog1794
      @mrfrog1794 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

      imagine how much pee

    • @sumthinorother9615
      @sumthinorother9615 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +64

      Imagine _never_ needing water because time doesn’t flow in cities.

    • @AbeM.
      @AbeM. 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

      @@sumthinorother9615it only stops for Link, so imagine having to do something at a certain time of day, and suddenly you need to wait for the little gremlin kid to leave town so time starts moving again.

    • @wonkehcheetah1138
      @wonkehcheetah1138 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      I love water. I can drink about a gallon of water (~3.8L) over the course of an entire day. I could not imagine having to drink almost twice that 5 times an hour. That is literally 240 gallons (~908L) of water per day, just to survive.

    • @bugslayerprime7674
      @bugslayerprime7674 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      And the constant bowel movements!

  • @Wupar
    @Wupar 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +591

    Kakariko may SEEM comfy at a glance, but remember it's flanked by an active volcano on one side, a graveyard with actual ghosts on another side, is home to not one but two buried torture sites housing the vengeful undead, and also features a house full of cursed spider people. Plus the neighbors play their music really loud all night and you'd never get any sleep.
    The real chad move is to live at Lon Lon Ranch and work as a ranch hand. Comfy horseback riding, an endless supply of milk and dairy products, a jolly old man who entertains you with chicken hide-and-seek and is more than happy to marry off his incredibly beautiful songstress daughter to you, and the worst thing that happens there throughout the course of the game is a hostile buyout by the local Ganondorf fan.

    • @gwendolynstata3775
      @gwendolynstata3775 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

      Lon Lon Ranch is a safe choice until night hits and so do those goddamn crows.

    • @nerd_world8919
      @nerd_world8919 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

      I was also thinking about Lon Lon Ranch. Being a ranch hand would probably earn us rupees. I'm sure Talon (the owner of the ranch and father of Malon) would appreciate the help. You could live a pretty cozy/peaceful life being a cowboy/rancher and riding on horse back into town to deliver the lon lon milk.

    • @gabe5918
      @gabe5918 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      Endless supply of milk at Lon Lon Ranch, eh? 🥴🥛I’m sold.

    • @simeonellinger2064
      @simeonellinger2064 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      ​@@gabe5918I see you

    • @Apolleh
      @Apolleh 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      Hell, even the hostile buyout is only a temporary issue. Even in a worst case where it gets so bad you have to leave, once Link changes things there you'll soon be seeing Malon selling Lon Lon Milk again where you learn the ranch is better. And given Malon and talon are nice people they'd no doubt happily accept you back.

  • @swampfox1007
    @swampfox1007 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +697

    Maybe the magic beans could be a source of food. The guy selling them is eating a lot of them.

    • @arrownaut6820
      @arrownaut6820 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +57

      That's also what I was saying. They look pretty good too

    • @AdeptArcanist
      @AdeptArcanist 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +88

      Yeah, we know they have beans, nuts, and carrots (since making epona move faster involves feeding her carrots.)

    • @xamareik4661
      @xamareik4661 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      ​@AdeptArcanist I think the carrots are just a ui thing. Epona moves faster due to the fact link is whipping her

    • @zerotankor
      @zerotankor 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

      @@AdeptArcanistthere is also bees. So we have honey.

    • @Yamartim
      @Yamartim 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

      Also magic mushrooms in the forest!

  • @Nuclearburrit0
    @Nuclearburrit0 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +462

    Regarding ganon, remember that there is a canon solution to this problem: Warn zelda.
    Link does this after the events of the game when he goes back in time. We know the events of the game, so we could do the same.

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +234

      That's a good point, I didn't consider that. I guess there's a possibility that she might think you're crazy, but if she's willing to listen to Link, then she might listen to you.
      I'd still keep the rating somewhat low, because this is GANONDORF. He could definitely figure something out before he's put in prison/executed.

    • @Nuclearburrit0
      @Nuclearburrit0 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

      @PretzelYT yeah, that's what happens in twilight princess.

    • @mr.personalspace7831
      @mr.personalspace7831 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +119

      If Ganondorf sees a REAL LIFE HUMAN BEING running around, he's absolutely going to plan around that. But being the isekai protagonist in this scenario, who's Zelda going to believe, you, or the guy she literally FEELS the ill intent radiating off of? It's really your word against his, and he is pretty decently high up the social ladder by the time you seen him through that window.

    • @mr.personalspace7831
      @mr.personalspace7831 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +65

      @@PretzelYTAnd it's like you said-
      See Twilight Princess, the gods have a sense of humor when it comes to letting Ganondorf get executed.

    • @Oceane1803
      @Oceane1803 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

      Link has the Triforce of Courage though. That's why people knew he was the Hero of Time and believed him even though he was a kid. I don't think they would believe us though.

  • @ChildofHealing
    @ChildofHealing 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +106

    Don't think you'd have to worry about the Triforce, actually. Ganondorf only got his hands on it because Link opened the Temple of Time and drew the Master Sword from its pedestal, thus giving Ganondorf access to the Sacred Realm. So unless someone else is able to find and gather the three sacred stones, get the Ocarina of Time, and learn the Song of Time, AND draw the Master Sword, Ganondorf isn't getting the Triforce. He's still a threat, sure, but not nearly on the level he is in the game.

    • @Yamartim
      @Yamartim 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      If we assume time actually passes with no one doing anything he absolutely realizes his goals I think, he gets the stones by killing the great deku tree like he does in the game, starving the gorons to death and causing panic in the zoras by killing jabu jabu with his parasite, he can totally get his hands on the ocarina of time too he also almost did it in the game, and learning the song is just a matter of bribing or blackmailing the right important people
      When it comes to the master sword, if oot ganondorf is comparable in power to totk ganondorf he could totally just destroy the master sword and break the seal like that

    • @randomuser234-wb4rw
      @randomuser234-wb4rw 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      @@Yamartim he doesn't have the secret stone in OoT so no crazy powers like breaking the master sword

    • @stuffz1757
      @stuffz1757 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      ​@@YamartimGanondorf breaking the Master Sword in TotK is a anomaly. It's only possible specifically because of how OP Gloom is.

    • @videogamesarecool9280
      @videogamesarecool9280 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      The fallen hero timeline exist, so we know for certain he can obtain his goals

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@videogamesarecool9280Yeah, he's fighting to get the triforce because he wants that ultimate power, but in the end, he will still try to overthrow the kingdom anyway.

  • @WasatchWind
    @WasatchWind 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +113

    I feel like in fighting Ganon, you have a massive advantage, and that is foresight. Presumably for most people who watched this video, you're an adult, or at least not 12. Thus, it'll be easier for you to have influence in the world.
    Thus here is my game plan -
    Realize I've been transported into Ocarina of Time. Ask the kokiri to let me visit the great deku tree, and explain the situation. Try my best to convince them to let me have some supplies, then set out for the rest of Hyrule.
    At this point, I'm probably dressed like a kokiri, but to some extent, I look a bit more "normal." I travel to castle town, and simply tell everyone that I'm a traveler from a far off land. At that point, I begin to work to support myself, and while I do so, build relationships in the community, and keep tabs on Ganon.
    Because I know who Ganon is and what he's doing, I can build trust until I can warn the king and other groups in Hyrule. Heck, you could go as far as gathering other concerned citizens, and running espionage in Gerudo Valley, trying to thwart their plans.
    The difficulty without Link is that the way I see it, there's a strong likelihood that you are going to get involved in a much more traditional and brutal war. Fun! But seriously, Ganondorf is going to take this world by force, it's not as easy for him, you know what he wants to do, and he knows you can somehow anticipate his choices. War I'd say, is inevitable.
    There is, like you mentioned, the prospect of being deemed the new hero of time. If you take Link's place at the start, you might get pulled into helping the great deku tree, and thus getting the kokiri emerald - not a great start to make yourself less conspicuous to the whims of fate.
    Further, if you take an active role in stopping Ganondorf, which you should, because you have knowledge others don't, that will further spotlight you as someone uniquely suited to have the triforce of courage. It would be quite dangerous, but with potions, fairies, possibly even the master sword, and your unique ability to problem solve outside the original bounds of the game, I think defeating Ganondorf is very doable, especially if you are an experienced player of the game, and know a bunch of tricks to use.

    • @OverbiteGames
      @OverbiteGames 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      But.. giant spiders :(

    • @Genra
      @Genra 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      It's a good idea, though in the event you are the new Hero of Time you have to consider you are considerably less durable than any other inhabitant of Hyrule. Unlike Link, your body is more prone to bruises, cuts, maybe fractures, is likely less acrobatic, and has stamina issues like BOTW Link.
      This will go into wondering how do the magical items in the game affect you, like do Heart Containers make you more durable to stabs, or is it you can just like "bleed out" longer but still experience the pain of a sword stabbing you and staying there 😅. If it's the latter, you're basically just a OHKO to most enemies, not even talking Ganondorf.
      The best bet likely is to try and become the royal tactician like older Fire Emblem games, honing your intelligence on how to position troops so that you can still contribute to Ganondorf's defeat.

    • @Yamartim
      @Yamartim 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      Remember we're dealing with the physical capabilities of a human, so there's a pretty decent chance you just die in the deku tree from gohma, or maybe just from falling after failing to climb massive walls of vines

    • @AzumarillConGafasBv
      @AzumarillConGafasBv 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Ganondorf can split any of us in half with a single hand dude

    • @OverbiteGames
      @OverbiteGames 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@Yamartim That web pit that you need to jump onto to enter the boss fight will likely be a hard lock unless you plan on breaking every bone in your body, still fighting off a spider rather than getting spider death as a reward for surviving, and then.. how do you plan on getting out? If you do get out, how's life treating you afterwards? Healing might not be as simple as a fairy or hearts in the grass for us.

  • @tarotcard0371
    @tarotcard0371 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +394

    Some things I found noteworthy:
    * Unless they saw you emerge from Link's House, the Kokiri probably wouldn't care about an adult being there, people visit Kokiri all the time, that's why there's a shop. They would, however, expect you to be only visiting.
    * The Deku Tree would absolutely hear you out, but he would absolutely not allow you to stay. Without the protection of a Fairy, you'd get lost in the mist and become a Stalfos. He'd probably give you some advice on where you could go at least.
    * The cows eat hay, so we can assume that NPCs need to eat, we just never see it on screen.
    * Do not eat Deku Nuts, those are not vegetables, they explode with a blinding light when hit hard enough.
    * How to get a place? Simple: Impa's house in Kakariko is open to the public, so people are just allowed to stay there if they don't have a home anywhere else. Alternatively, if you're okay with listening to people scream about how bad being cursed sucks, you could always crash in the House of Skulltula.
    * Possibly a continuation of the Cows eating Hay thing; In order for the hypothetical to make sense, we have to assume that the world becomes real (IE NPCs become people) or else no events happen and no one but us ages. In games like this, Time moves with the protagonists footsteps, so if we treat the NPCs as NPCs during the Hypothetical, Ganon becomes a non-threat, as does the pressure he's put on the various leaders of the land, as no future events will happen unless we walk into the exact correct place.

    • @TheBreadPirate
      @TheBreadPirate 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +73

      I had many of the same thoughts!
      We aren't just entering a sterile, digital world. We are entering a fantasy world where people act like people. LET THEM EAT CAKE! (Or whatever food NPC's like)

    • @Raymond13557
      @Raymond13557 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      You could also say that you're Link's cousin from his mother's sister's cousin's side of the family. technically it's not against canon or lying at all.

    • @johnpett1955
      @johnpett1955 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

      I mean, yeah, when Link goes to Kokiri forest as an adult, none of the Kokiri recognize him, yet they still treat him with hospitality.

    • @TamsynChaffins
      @TamsynChaffins 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Unless we inherit Navi when we switch places with him, then we could stay in the forest theoretically as long as we wanted to

    • @gwendolynstata3775
      @gwendolynstata3775 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      I always thought of the Kokiri Shop as just being kids playing store and getting really intense about it, not that they were expecting other races to come through town and buy from them.

  • @Bryce_the_Woomy_Boi
    @Bryce_the_Woomy_Boi 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +232

    I love these "could you survive in" videos, it's pretty interesting.

    • @Delta5Qmp
      @Delta5Qmp 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Seconded, these are great! More please!!

  • @Bacxaber
    @Bacxaber 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +64

    I feel like the removal of Link from that universe would either break the curse entirely, meaning Ganondorf would never be stopped, or it'd reincarnate a new Link. Two Links can exist at the same time, that's canon. It doesn't require the first one's soul or anything.

    • @Yamartim
      @Yamartim 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      generally each link is only born every few hundreds or thousands of years between games though, we'd be long dead by then

    • @Bacxaber
      @Bacxaber 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      @@Yamartim One of the topdown games has an old man who was the previous Link, and there was a scrapped game about an old librarian who takes in the next Link as his apprentice. Seems to me like it's every

    • @Dash123456789Brawl
      @Dash123456789Brawl 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@BacxaberCould you clarify about the game with ‘the previous Link?’ All I could think of before you said it was a top-down game was that you meant the Hero’s Shade in TP. I’m not aware of any canon game that includes multiple concurrently living incarnations of Hyrule’s Link.

    • @Nathan-qp9uv
      @Nathan-qp9uv 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@Dash123456789Brawl I think they might be mixing up the surviving member of Tetra's crew that knew WW Link and meets ST Link

    • @yohhh6715
      @yohhh6715 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Nathan-qp9uvA Link Between Worlds

  • @ChrisSmith-bb1dq
    @ChrisSmith-bb1dq 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    Solution for low Safety: Just work for Ganondorf
    He's evil in the sense that he wants to rule the world, but if you go off of wind waker Lore, he just wants a better life for his people.
    Even taking that motivation out of the equation, the world doesn't actually get THAT much worse with Ganondorf in charge. Well it gets worse for the Kokiri, Zora, and Gorons. But for Hylians it doesn't change that much. Everyone moves from Castle Town to Kakriko, which would be at most a day of travel.
    AND! When ganondorf takes over, all the Skeletons in Hyrule Field disappear.
    The biggest worry about be it turning into Wind Waker's flooded world due to no Hero of Courage.

    • @blackbloom8552
      @blackbloom8552 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      Dont confuse his nostagia and regrets in wind waker with actual care of his people. He went against their values by attacking women and children with his bands of thieves, mind controlled those who opposed him and left the gerudo to rot in the desert once he took over Hyrule and didn't need them anymore.

    • @jacobjamaal8369
      @jacobjamaal8369 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Kakariko also gets "destroyed" by Bongo Bongo as a result of Ganondorf's actions. If we're talking about a scenario where the door of time was still opened, that's one of the least safe places to be (besides maybe Goron City)

    • @theoaremevano3227
      @theoaremevano3227 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Ganondorf: "Evans! Where's that package delivery?"
      "Um, I don't know, sir."
      Ganondorf: "You know what this means, right?"
      "The gap between dimensions again, sir? Maybe if you'd stop sending people there, we wouldn't be having this probl---"

    • @TheShinjiakamoto
      @TheShinjiakamoto 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Counterpoint: WW Ganondorf is A LOT more mature than OoT Ganondorf. He lost, he learns from his loss, and he's had THOUSANDS of years of being sealed to contemplate his defeat orchestrated by the goddesses, and his motivations. And having been sealed a second time between OoT and WW.
      OoT Ganondorf hasn't any of that. He's a king riding high on power and conquest.
      That's the same reason why TP Ganondorf isn't as wise as WW Ganondorf. He NEVER lost to Link, He never faced real defeat, therefore he can't learn from it, and instead of thousands of years contemplating his loss and motivations, he instead has thousands of years of rage. He wasn't beaten by a hero sent by the goddesses, he was beaten by a king who didn't fall for his false allegiance. He wasn't sealed by the sages awakened by the goddesses, he was executed by the old sages, and awakened to power, resulting in him being sealed in the twilight realm.
      That's why TP Ganondorf makes the exact same mistakes as OoT Ganondorf. He's learned nothing, and is the same man from OoT MO wise.

    • @yourmum69_420
      @yourmum69_420 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      he wanted better for himself, not for his people

  • @nightfrostbreeze
    @nightfrostbreeze 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +214

    For specifically vitamin C, you could make a tea with pine needles. There may be other edible plants that we don't think of as food as well, for example in our world dandelions can be eaten.

    • @emilyrobinson6080
      @emilyrobinson6080 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      Who knows, peahat roots might be delicious roasted like artichoke hearts. Usually any plant that defends itself with big thorns (yet alone freaking out like a giant flying beyblade) have something delicious.

    • @sumthinorother9615
      @sumthinorother9615 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ⁠@@emilyrobinson6080
      I’m not even fighting that thing when I can respawn, there’s no way you’re fighting a helicopter with medieval weaponry.

    • @WinterRaven25
      @WinterRaven25 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Would not recommend that to any women looking to become mothers though. Pine needle tea from a lot of species of pine will terminate gestation. In a side note I hate how we have to find creative ways around controversial terms here.

    • @RipleySawzen
      @RipleySawzen 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Organ meats have more than ample amounts of vitamin C. And all non-organ meats have it as well, just not as much as fruit does. But it may not be necessary as high-meat diets do not seem to require as much of it to stave off scurvy.

  • @RoninCatholic
    @RoninCatholic 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +249

    A lot of games have an entire separate artstyle for their overworld long-distance travel map entirely to help ease the Scale Theory's potential for killing immersion.

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +80

      Hahaha I've been reading interviews for Final Fantasy VII's final episode in the remake trilogy, and it seems like that's troubling them. It was a lot easier to render the world in a simple scale for an airship that you're able to fly around the world it. The team says they're struggling on how to implement that in a game that doesn't have that abstracted world map.
      Super curious to see how they handle it.

    • @jonathangerrits7697
      @jonathangerrits7697 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@PretzelYT i am a programmer so feel free to ask what you want

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      ​@@PretzelYTI feel like a game where this could get really messy is Red Dead Redemption 2. A lot of people have mentioned it - it's a very realistic world. It's literally trying to recreate real world 1899. The question is however, are you trapped literally in the actual map, or do you have access to the real life places mentioned like New York (or Tahiti 🙃).
      If we act like it's just the real world... then basically all you've done is time traveled, and you can live a somewhat decent life. Stuck in the in game map though... and eventually even the expansive world of red dead 2 is going to wear on you after years of living there.

    • @funlandbuilder
      @funlandbuilder 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PretzelYT pls do rianworld next i really want see if able survival in rian worlde

    • @stm7810
      @stm7810 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@WasatchWind as a trans woman it wouldn't be an easy or normal life, I'd be treated like dirt at best and that's if I find a way to pass.

  • @michaelduff2382
    @michaelduff2382 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    "There are so many people in this world, it would be easy to find a little group you fit into"
    Me: Um... *looks around nervously*

  • @emilyrobinson6080
    @emilyrobinson6080 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    The old man at the laboratory mentions how eyeball frog eyes are a delicacy he enjoys and how if it wasnt needed for medicine, that night’s dinner would be special because of it.
    The gorons also are in a predicament due to their food source being closed off, granted they eat rocks but I think the idea remains that NPCs do eat even if we dont see them do so.
    Theres also fish that are widely available in many bodies of water so it wouldnt strictly be red meat, and Id imagine cucco eggs and milk/other dairy products would be available since we get both eggs (to be hatched, not eaten) and milk in the game.

  • @hyperfangz
    @hyperfangz 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +220

    There are carrots in OoT. You have an infinite amount when riding Epona

    • @mr.personalspace7831
      @mr.personalspace7831 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      Just gotta get on horseback and chomp down on raw veggies for sustenance.

    • @eaglescout1984
      @eaglescout1984 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

      My thoughts exactly. It'd be like Homer with the alcohol-fueled car.
      "One for you, one for me, one for you, one for me."

    • @tylerherr4288
      @tylerherr4288 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      casually gets on my horse and reaches up and pulls a carrot off the ui that no one else can see

  • @PocketDeerBoy
    @PocketDeerBoy 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    you wanna forget about politics in hyrule? when you've just spent minutes talking about the king of evil?

    • @mr.personalspace7831
      @mr.personalspace7831 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      Listen, that's not morals or politics, when he is literally THE "EVIL KING" GANONDORF, we can pretty objectively say he's not good without much debate.

    • @fortnitesexman
      @fortnitesexman 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@mr.personalspace7831naming fallacy 💀

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      ​@@mr.personalspace7831Just wait until you're trying to convince people he's evil, and they accuse you of being prejudiced against Gerudo 💀

    • @mr.personalspace7831
      @mr.personalspace7831 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@WasatchWind HE FROZE ZORA'S DOMAIN

    • @nickelakon5369
      @nickelakon5369 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      ​@mr.personalspace7831 correction, he freezes Zora's domain.
      As far as hyrule is concerned Ganondorf is a King trying to swear fealty to hyrule after losing a war. Most people have no idea he's *objectively* evil.

  • @starscourge_vega
    @starscourge_vega 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    If you know the plot of the game before entering, Ganondorf becomes a non issue. When Link goes back in time at the end of the game, he just snitches on Ganon to Zelda and tells her what he's gonna do. According to lore, he's then caught and executed as seen in twilight princess. Yeah he comes back but you'd be dead by then.

    • @itsmeike
      @itsmeike 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well, prior to being captured and 'executed,' Ganondorf takes the Gerudo and embroils Hyrule in a bloody war. Don't think you'd want to get caught up in that.

  • @JDQuote
    @JDQuote 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    Great video as always!
    Regarding the issue of money: Getting rupees from cutting grass isn't just something meta. There's a canon reason for why they keep appearing: the Minish keep replenishing them, so it would be perfectly viable to get wealthy by doing that.

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      My head canon for a more realistic rupee is that they're a variety of a sort of quartz. Finding them naturally, they're just rare enough to be worth something, but perhaps in more organized periods of Hyrule's history, they are actually cut and maybe engraved with a royal seal or something, to prevent the currency from inflating.

    • @Yamartim
      @Yamartim 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      oh god so the reason we dont find them in grass anymore in botw and totk is because all the minish died? thats messed up

    • @folmhaigh039
      @folmhaigh039 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@WasatchWind they are valuable because they are literally magical, the different colors are literally the green ones magically combined into the new color

  • @fuzzydude64
    @fuzzydude64 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    I'd think the Kokiri would most likely assume that a random human showing up is probably fine because what are they gonna do- leave? Clearly they were supposed to end up here, that's why they're not a Stalfos, silly! It's the Deku Tree you'd need to worry about, but tbh, he'd probably meet you with curiosity more than anything else as long as you're honest and peaceful. Might still make you leave but if he does, you'll probably just be led out to the forest entrance and set free. At worst, they just force you out into the woods.
    As for Ganondorf, you could speak with the Deku Tree and tell him you have knowledge of events that he too is privy to (such as his curse). With that, you might have some realistic chance of warning the king of Ganondorf's betrayal. A human that entered the Kokiri village unharmed without a fairy AND came back out unharmed? That sounds pretty serious, he might actually give you consideration
    Effectively this is what Zelda does after sending Link away anyway, she just warns the king successfully in her childhood. Then you'd be set until he breaks free like a century later. Could argue it's too meta but I think simply warning others should count as a realistic and therefore viable option since we're assuming NPCs still have jobs and renewable resources and the like.

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Warning others is a lot easier cause most viewers here are older than 12 I'd wager, and that is a big point in your favor. Knowing what Ganondorf is planning beforehand, even if the king doesn't listen, is going to help you a lot.
      Something like wait for Ganondorf to ride out of castle town after Zelda, and have a magical trap laid for him. Incapacitate him, and bring him to the castle as prisoner while trying to negotiate with the Gerudo for an end to hostility.
      The difficult thing I keep running into is that while you have a good chance of stopping Ganondorf from successfully getting the three stones, you opposing him, lengthening his timeline to victory, and generally making his life more difficult has a good chance of starting a real traditional war.

    • @fuzzydude64
      @fuzzydude64 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@WasatchWind dang, didnt think of that

  • @BrenTenkage
    @BrenTenkage 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +149

    Should mention that in the OoT manga, link actually eats Bread mentioning it tastes better than the fruits of the forest. So Behind the scenes there would be fruits and grains (and presumably other stuff like corn) so I think you are good.

    • @songokuwukong
      @songokuwukong 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      He said we are going with the game world we can see..

    • @BrenTenkage
      @BrenTenkage 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@songokuwukong figured I'd just add that bit of knowledge, as one could see the manga and other material as a supplement. Just food for thought

    • @dionlackey798
      @dionlackey798 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@songokuwukongit's crazy to believe that a world full of green and forests don't have vegetables

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is the manga canon?

    • @BrenTenkage
      @BrenTenkage 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@benjaminoechsli1941 no idea. But it is a good read

  • @thelonestar5327
    @thelonestar5327 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    One thing about Ganondorf is you also need the Ocarina of Time and to play the Song of Time to get to the Triforce. If Zelda/The Royal Family keeps the Ocarina of Time safe, or even destroy it out of desperation, Ganondorf's plans are screwed.

    • @rheokalyke367
      @rheokalyke367 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That and at least for 50% of the population (like me), you could just join the Gerudo and then be set into safety.
      Ganondorf wins? The group you joined gets to have a pretty good time. Ganondorf never gets the triforce? Hey, he made an alliance with the king of Hyrule so things are going to look pretty good too!

    • @thelonestar5327
      @thelonestar5327 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rheokalyke367 I don't think Gerudo let outsiders join, woman or not. Link was just a formality, even. Besides, that also means you'd live in the desert, which is way worse off.

    • @MultiCool55
      @MultiCool55 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Considering what happened to Lorule when their Triforce was destroyed, getting rid of the Triforce would likely lead to just as many issues.

    • @thelonestar5327
      @thelonestar5327 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MultiCool55 I meant destroying the Ocarina of Time, not the Triforce.

  • @Prosecutor_justice
    @Prosecutor_justice 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    I would team up with the guy that was making a bomb , to make a gun to shoot the Ganon

    • @FullAutoWitch
      @FullAutoWitch 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      I'd try looking for Morshu in Hyrule, he must be somewhere there, hiding. Because he has lamp oil, ropes, bombs, I want, and it's mine as long as I have enough rupees.

    • @robertocastillo4107
      @robertocastillo4107 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@FullAutoWitch brilliant

    • @Prosecutor_justice
      @Prosecutor_justice 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@FullAutoWitch Nice idea
      *Morshu trying to explain something gif playing*

  • @Ian_Comics
    @Ian_Comics 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Ganondorf would need the ocarina to open the door too.

  • @Deathnotefan97
    @Deathnotefan97 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    “Who gets the Triforce of Courage”
    Plot twist: I get the Triforce of Power and become the villain, and Ganondorf gets Courage

  • @rlira8072
    @rlira8072 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    "Hey, I come from a world where all of you are characters from a book (videogame would be to hard to explain), and Ganondorf is hiding something."
    Problem solved

    • @Supahdenning
      @Supahdenning 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You can encounter schizos saying this in real life already.

    • @johnpett1955
      @johnpett1955 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      There are only a few characters who won't think you're crazy for saying that: Caepora Gaebora (the owl), Zelda, and the Deku tree. What could they do?

    • @rlira8072
      @rlira8072 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@johnpett1955 My rounded ears would stick out enough to at least consider the possibility that i'm from another world

    • @johnpett1955
      @johnpett1955 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@rlira8072 The Gerudo people have rounded ears in Ocarina of Time, so it's still pretty far-fetched imo. It's not like having rounded ears makes you undeniably from another world. Especially when we consider that there are places outside of Hyrule in the series.

    • @rlira8072
      @rlira8072 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@johnpett1955 We ventured out of Hyrule in The Legend of Zelda 2 and they have pointy ears. And about the Gerudo, a male Gerudo is born every 100 and the current one is Ganon, so if you're not ginger, that should rule you out.

  • @gamercore5216
    @gamercore5216 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    I do want to add in the child timeline where gannon doesn't get the triforce he just invades with his army the usual way

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Right. He may take over Hyrule, but he doesn't have godlike power.

  • @MotherGapshin12
    @MotherGapshin12 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

    I wonder what the Hyrulians will think of the elongated and tall human that suddenly appeared?

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      Well the Hylians look fairly human, and in other parts of the Zelda universe, the humans have rounded ears. You could easily get away with saying you're from Labrynna or something.
      This of course begs the rules of this experiment, of if upon entering Ocarina of Time, a more real expanded universe comes into existence.

    • @Sauraen
      @Sauraen 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      You'd be the only one made of more than 200 triangles!

    • @zachtwilightwindwaker596
      @zachtwilightwindwaker596 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Humans are a thing in Hyrule. The Ordonians are normal humans. They probably live mostly outside of Hyrule.

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@Sauraen I feel like given the scenario of "can you survive" it implies that the world becomes more real. People are flesh and blood, they eat things - if you need to eat so should they.
      I feel like it should operate this way unless you're in a game that makes big departures from reality.

  • @masterzombie161
    @masterzombie161 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Gannon: I was told a hero would come to stop me, is that you?
    Me: I guess…
    Gannon: do you have like a sword or magic to use?
    Me: I have a construction license.
    Gannon:…..can you at least play an ocarina?
    Me: what the hells an ocarina?
    Gannon: ok I’m going home, my disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined. (Rides away)
    Me:…what a jerk.

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      My man! 🤝
      As someone who works in home renovation, my first thought this video was "Enh, I'll just go get hired by the Kakariko guy. He clearly could use another hand."

    • @masterzombie161
      @masterzombie161 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@benjaminoechsli1941 yea construction is hard but it comes with his own rewards by being able to make things with your own hands.
      Gannon: hey umm sorry for being rude I was just disappointed is all.
      “Yea I see from your perspective being the king of evil is all.”
      Gannon: yea so I guess I can’t rule now…..meaning I might need a job.
      “Oh umm ok do you have a construction license?”
      Gannon: No
      “Have you ever worked in construction before?”
      Gannon: No, but I do have magic.
      “Do you have a criminal record?”
      Gannon:…….Noooo
      “Yea I don’t think we can hire you buddy, maybe you can find employment at Lon Lon ranch.”
      Gannon:………ok…(rides away)……jerk.

  • @fr00t_salad
    @fr00t_salad 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    My Ganon solution: retrieve the kokiri's emerald from the Great Deku Tree, the safest sacred stone to get, and then go into hiding.
    Assuming Ganon doesnt have some magical sense for detecting the stones, you could just hide it, and nobody would know. He never gets into the sacred realm, and the world never goes post apocalypse.

    • @Yamartim
      @Yamartim 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      not very safe for a normal human to fall hundreds of feet just to break through a spider web i dont think, also the deku tree would have to trust you in the first place to give the stone to you, he didn't raise you since you were a baby like link

    • @calemr
      @calemr 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He'd probably engage in more mundane methods of conquest. I dunno how well you could hide from him sweeping an army of monsters across the land murdering and pillaging their way through anyone that resists.

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I've got an even easier solution: let him get the Stones, play the Song to open the door, and... be absolutely powerless to break the seal on the Sacred Realm by drawing the Master Sword, a blade evil hearts can't even touch, much less wield.

    • @RaidFiftyOne
      @RaidFiftyOne 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I would simply bury it in the most random spot in existence

  • @embargovenom9948
    @embargovenom9948 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    There are definitely vegetables in Hyrule. Even beyond the magic beans and Deku nuts, when you ride on a horse you can feed it carrots, so those are definitely available.

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    In the child timeline, after Link gets sent back to the past by Zelda, he reveals the truth about Ganondorf preventing him from being able to take over until Twilight Princess.
    By that logic, if YOU were sucked into the game world, you would be able to do the same thing as Link. Once you know that Ganondorf is evil, you can tell everybody and prevent him from taking over.

  • @Raphe9000
    @Raphe9000 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I love how cozy these videos are. Being able to explore these games' worlds in a new light just fills me with nostalgia. I'd love to see stuff like this done with more Zelda games, especially with like Twilight Princess.

  • @seanpazdera6407
    @seanpazdera6407 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    The answer to who gets the Triforce of Courage is actually solved in Cadence of Hyrule.
    Link still would. And he'd be taken back to Hyrule by it.
    The Triforce was needed while Ganon was still a child, so Link got the Triforce of Courage, Zelda got the Triforce of Wisdom... and Cadence from Crypt of the NecroDancer got the Triforce of Power, and she was pulled into the Legend of Zelda world to help the other 2.

    • @johnpett1955
      @johnpett1955 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Or it could be given to Link (the goron)

  • @saulitix
    @saulitix 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    The virgin "too much water" vs the chad "a lot of water, 5/5"

  • @FinalFrantasy
    @FinalFrantasy 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    I'm definitely gonna try out some bottled fish lol. I hope Cuccoo lay eggs as often as real chickens as well.

    • @aienma6660
      @aienma6660 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Why settle with bottle fish, the fishing pond implies there are some 20lb fish in the water, just not seen in the other parts of the game for game reasons.

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@aienma6660 A pound of fish (or less) is a hearty meal, in my experience. If we assume a conservative 15 pounds of that 20 pound fish is edible, that's 15 meals, or 5 days. Basically a week. 👌

    • @aienma6660
      @aienma6660 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@benjaminoechsli1941 And it wouldnt be that hard to catch... I mean, young link can pull in those beasts of fishes, so a full grown man/woman can do the same.

  • @IchorX
    @IchorX 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    This is a top tier series, I can *definitely* see this continue to get bigger as you continue to get better at making it.

  • @SinisterPixel
    @SinisterPixel 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I think with the danger factor there's a couple of things to consider:
    1) Only the hero of time is able to pull the sacred blade, and that's ultimately what causes the sacred realm to open. Without it, we have to question if even with the medallions, Ganondorf would be able to get to the sacred realm
    2) Assuming we have foreknowledge about what happens in the game, we can just do what happens at the end of the game. We can warn Zelda and the king of Hyrule of what's to come before Ganondorf comes to power and he'd be executed

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The Master Sword cannot be wielded by an evil hand, so Ganondorf certainly could not draw it. Could he force someone else to draw it in his place? Possibly, unless the blade can sense duress and wouldn't budge.

  • @MechaLeo
    @MechaLeo 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    To spin the speculative yarn of food availability in a real-time and scale Hyrule, I'm literally diving into a HUD element so bear with me.
    If you were to have a pack of all the typical adventuring equipment, bottles and junk, being entrusted with Epona in the adult timeline seems to indicate that she eats from a supply of carrots you keep on hand. This is just the symbol used for sprinting (unlike spurs in Twilight Princess), if we translate the fricken _sprint distance_ from in game time and space to real world proportions it's logical that these carrots do grant Epona the energy to gallop faster over longer periods. And if we fully hinge on this idea of carrots being a tangible resource then the amount of time to regain sprints is the amount of time it would take to forage for carrots, which seem readily available anywhere in the overworld Epona has access to (which are just travel regions with fast forwarding time).
    Combine the assumption of wild carrots growing in abundance across Hyrule with milk, eggs, and steaks, we've almost got a food pyramid to choose from. Unless, of course, we are just sitting in a kilometer long stretch of flat polygons watching the sun pass every four minutes, but that lacks fantasy.

  • @Jasonwolf1495
    @Jasonwolf1495 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    Carrots are implied to exist by Epona's dash command, so ya got one vegitable technically.
    As for meat only diets the Inuit people across the arctic have survived on a meat only diet for a very long time, but IDK if the vitamins available in seals, bears, and whales are available in just cows and chickens.

    • @jacobjamaal8369
      @jacobjamaal8369 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think adding bottled fish and bugs into the mix would get you there. In addition to the Deku seeds/nuts and potential other edible plants/fungi. We know mushrooms exist too (odd mushroom) and you'd also have plenty of Lon Lon milk to drink

    • @Lonewolf3515
      @Lonewolf3515 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Don't forget about the magic bean guy eating those beans lol. On top of that, the scientist at the Lake Hylia laboratory mentions something about wanting to eat eyeball frogs lmao.

  • @GermanPeter
    @GermanPeter 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    "Traversibility" would be absolutely interesting for a game like Minecraft. Sure, Steve can jump up blocks half his height just fine, but you? I'd be tuckered out after climbing a small hill. And how would mining blocks affect your own stamina? Even creating a hole in the ground that's the size of a Minecraft block can take about 30 minutes to an hour.

  • @AllWalkerB
    @AllWalkerB 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I'm enjoying this series - and I like how you spelled out the assumptions so clearly. The only criticism is that tallying up all the points at the end doesn't tell you much - 3s across the board average to the same as all 1s and 5s, but those are very different prospects.

    • @calemr
      @calemr 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You could have a Perfectly safe, enjoyable world, with 0 potable water, and so get a fantastically high rating for somewhere you'd last less than a week.

  • @Yoseqlo1
    @Yoseqlo1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Great episode! Certainly living in Hyrelu would be pretty doable. I was gonna ask for Majora's Mask when I was reminded about the three day ending catastrophe, which most certainly eliminates any persona that doesn't have a magical ocarina and know the song of time.

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I think that one of the better Zeldas to live in is Wind Waker. Civilization isn't in an amazing place, but hey, you're on a bunch of tropical islands. Ganondorf also is a lot more low key in this game, so you could perhaps ignore him.
      If you wanted to, you could even go so far as to lead the canonical expedition to New Hyrule, and leading the founding of a new nation. Hard to find many long term projects in a game that would be as fulfilling as that.
      I think the hardest thing though with Wind Waker would be the sudden disappearance of Link. Suddenly he's gone, everyone is sad, and then his sister is kidnapped. Pretty crappy situation.
      I prefer the Isekai premise then of you just dropping in, and nothing else has changed.

    • @todorstojanov3100
      @todorstojanov3100 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That being said, if you were given the ocarina but none of the other items/abilities, it would be a very interesting case. In terms of resources and safety, it's pretty similar to OoT, but what would be the psychological effect of experiencing the same three days over and over again for the rest of your life? Building relationships with people becomes impossible, since they forget about you at the start of each cycle

    • @Vaquix000
      @Vaquix000 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not really if there's no Link to stop Ganondorf. Ganondorf isn't just going to leave Kakariko Village the way it is.

  • @Veloci170702
    @Veloci170702 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    0:52 thank you for putting a smile on my face, i needed that

  • @healthyminds9279
    @healthyminds9279 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great job! I love how you based everything on a clean foundation of your game world's rules, even addressing Scale Theory. A lot of people would have glossed over that stuff and jumped back & forth between different world rules/interpretations etc.

  • @Logandroid
    @Logandroid 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I really enjoy the strange yet logical rabbit hole of questions that you ponder from this series. Like on one side of the coin you're worried about nutrition, but on the other you're questioning if Ganondorf would get to the sacred realm on his own, who the triforce of courage would go to without Link around, and if that person could even succeed at defeating him.
    Idk there's just something very satisfying exploring the question of "could you survive here?" where you really consider so many different angles.

  • @jamst5913
    @jamst5913 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    New favorite series! I've put a lot of thoughts in this myself over the years and many games. Can't wait for the next one

  • @Rhinelander
    @Rhinelander 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    This is an incredible concept for a series and I absolutely love it. Hope to see many more episodes!

  • @Someonehahaha
    @Someonehahaha 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Don't hang around the woods too long, or you might end up in Termina. And we all know that world has a more terrible fate.

  • @rheokalyke367
    @rheokalyke367 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "It would be easy to find a group to fit into"
    I feel like the Gerudo are a great option to join. At least for me. They are not in immediate danger of Ganondorf (as they are working for him) and the Gerudo are only hostile to outsider men, not outsider women.
    With no Link around to stop Ganondorf, it feels like the safest bet. Even if Ganondorf fails to obtain the triforce of power, it would mean the alliance with Hyrule he makes with the king would ensure a bright future.

  • @randomchannel1184
    @randomchannel1184 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This video in a nutshell:
    My day be so fine, then boom, Ganondorf exists.

  • @wareforcoin5780
    @wareforcoin5780 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Castle Town is realistically the only place any of us would be in any actual danger. You'd have a monster in the village, but that guy lives in a hole no one goes in, so like, we're all probably good.

  • @bumbleboosh
    @bumbleboosh 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It's important to note that when the Triforce splits, the pieces don't go toward whoever already possesses their qualities, but whoever desires each quality the most. Link being absent from the world and no longer seeking to prove his courage since he's watching TH-cam on your couch means he's disqualified now. Since you want to survive in Hyrule above all else, it's only fair that you get the Triforce of Courage.

  • @boricuamista
    @boricuamista 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great content bro I felt that last speech in my soul for the X factor 👏

  • @nathansmiddy732
    @nathansmiddy732 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    It's a tough balancing act with the idea of resources. Concessions have ro be made one way or another and I feel like you've settled on something that makes sense, but there are plenty of other valid ways to examine it.
    For example, in this video, we've assumed that
    1: NPCs wouldn't need food, and
    2: NPC creatures such as cows, horses, and chickens would have nutritional value
    I'm okay with the conclusions drawn from that, but looking at this scenario from another perspective involves incongruities. Do the horses, cows, chickens, etc need to eat? If not, what are they made of that makes them provide nutritional value? If we flipped this and claimed that all NPCs would need to eat as soon as we arrived, would our arrival bring turmoil to the world? If correlation was discovered between this dynamic change and our presence, would we be hated?
    If we go back to us being the only being that needs to eat, and we examine the farm animals again, we also have to contend with the fact that the game doesn't normally have any need to re-spawn them (aside from cuccos--more on that next), because they're never supposed to be defeated. Would the game make another script call to spawn all the horses and cows back in when you return after slaughtering any of them? Cuccos can never be defeated either. They're invincible, and trying to eat them puts your life in serious jeopardy. You might even be able to temporarily neutralize Ganon with them if you can safely trick him into attacking one.
    All of this is just food for thought though. You obviously can't even begin to consider the logistics of living in a game world unless the game's assets and environments are translated into realistic analogues to some degree, but going for complete realism makes most of these worlds fall apart. If we go for no concessions, we have a world so incongruent from our own that our very existence there is quite impossible. If we go for "complete" realism, then all of the water would eventually find itself over the side of the limited map, and we'd have no guarantee a flat, segmented world could even maintain an atmosphere. I think you've drawn a decent line on where to balance everything.

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yeah I've definitely thought about this. At the end of the day, I kinda just don't think about it too hard hahaha. I could spend a couple minutes talking about the food chain and how everything is supplied, but I don't think anyone wants to hear that. It's like answering a kid's question, and then they say "Why?", so you answer that and they ask "Why?" again. You could go down a never ending spiral like that. I just gotta call it at some point and make some core assumptions.

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@PretzelYTI feel like the best strategy for the future is considering what exists in canon. Carrots appear on Epona's stamina meter, so I think it's reasonable that you could obtain carrots.
      I perhaps favor a too liberal interpretation of this however, as I'd say you can visit other kingdoms like Labrynna, because they exist in the canon.

  • @TheRealPOTUSDavidByrd
    @TheRealPOTUSDavidByrd 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    48 minutes ago is CRAZY
    (love these videos, Pretzel

  • @rendumguy7596
    @rendumguy7596 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Maybe you can do what Link does in the child timeline and snitch on Ganondorf by letting the King know that he killed the Deku Tree, put a parasite into Jabu Jabu, and is starving the Gorons.
    The only problem would be getting the King's attention and willingness to hear you out. If he listens, then Ganondorf is caught, executed, and Hyrule is safe far longer than a long human lifespan.
    This would probably lead to a similar world to the Child Timeline, except the Hero of Twilight wouldn't exist, which kind of screws over the events of Twilight Princess. Also, Termina would be destroyed unfortunately.

  • @YokoX23
    @YokoX23 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bro I need SO MUCH MORE of this series. You got me to subscribe in one single video, that has NEVER happened and I've had this TH-cam account long enough that Google didn't own TH-cam when I started. At least a decade.

  • @jebus4261
    @jebus4261 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Glad to see more of this series 😁

  • @swgclips03
    @swgclips03 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Here before the series takes off, and before you reach 50k.

    • @Illya9999
      @Illya9999 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      True

  • @thesunlightguardian
    @thesunlightguardian 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love this series, and i love that you went more in depth about what and why you treat as game mechanics and or what is real compared to your mario 64 video. Keep up the good work!

  • @dabfellow
    @dabfellow 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    love this series im calling it now this is a hella underrated youtube channel keep this up youll blow up for sure

  • @agnuswulf
    @agnuswulf 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Can't wait for the Shadow of The Colosssus episode!

  • @andyghkfilm2287
    @andyghkfilm2287 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    6:02 “I can’t think of any vegetables in the game”
    Deku Nuts! Slingshot Seeds! Magic Beans! We even KNOW Magic Beans are edible, because the merchant is EATING them!
    edit: bomb flowers! lol. And I always took the stall that everyone's crowded around in Castle Town to be a produce stall, IIRC there's SOMETHING that implies that about it, like an NPC line or something

    • @connorfarnham7059
      @connorfarnham7059 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      dude’s getting high off his own supply…. i don’t trust those to be eaten!

    • @andyghkfilm2287
      @andyghkfilm2287 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@connorfarnham7059 Maybe they're psychotropic, and that's part of the "magic"

    • @Sauraen
      @Sauraen 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nah, unlike the mushrooms which are definitely drugs, the beans are probably just normal beans when eaten. The "magic" is the fact that the adult bean plant flies around.

  • @CZsWorld
    @CZsWorld 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Octorok joke was SO. ON. POINT.

  • @rockhound3.14
    @rockhound3.14 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You've quickly become one my favorite channels ❤️ good video as always

  • @renejosu
    @renejosu 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Right at the start you would turn into a stalfos

    • @raik1766
      @raik1766 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      nop, you're not in the lost woods

    • @johnpett1955
      @johnpett1955 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      The Kokiri forest is safe from that curse, I believe. That is why Link wasn't turned into a skull kid/Stalfos because Link's a hylian and went up to this point without being turned into a skull kid/stalfos even without a fairy. I think it only comes into effect in the lost woods.

    • @emilyrobinson6080
      @emilyrobinson6080 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@johnpett1955 even then, I think the curse is sort of like the zombies in the walking dead: you die and then reanimate. it wont happen if you just go into the woods, but people without fairy guides are doomed to get lost and presumably eventually die. And thats where I think they would reanimate as a stalfos. Grog seemed pretty near death when we find him, he might have gone there to die, and between the time it takes to take the mushroom back to Kakariko, and bring the medicine his granny makes back to him (who knows, it might have been an antidote to some poison he took or some super strength antidepressant to try to snap him out of it) he dies, reanimates, and shuffles off to go do stalfos things.

    • @GrassToucher170
      @GrassToucher170 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I honestly think the "curse" was a scare tactic the Deku Tree created to keep people out. Sheik and Link make it to the Sacred Forest Meadow and out just fine. I highly doubt the Kokiri built the Forest Temple, so some outsiders must have gotten there and built it. In other games like Skyward Sword, Twilight Princess, A Link to the Past, and Breath of the Wild a bunch of non-Kokiris wander through the same woods with no issues.

    • @mr.j3rs3y
      @mr.j3rs3y 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@GrassToucher170 That makes me wonder what the Skull kids would be then. They look like they are made of wood iirc, so they could be related to Deku scrubs.

  • @ForgetfulHatter
    @ForgetfulHatter 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Bro gotta say, fr.
    I love this video idea series. i'd say you've struck gold here. :) like solid gold.

  • @CZPC
    @CZPC 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Step 1: Take triforce piece
    Step 2: Leave Hyrule
    Step 3: Profit?

  • @osjuchava
    @osjuchava 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great series man! I love seeing this sort of creative approach to gaming videos. Keep them coming 🤩

  • @blargghkip
    @blargghkip 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    1:10 "no abusing glitches"
    So you're telling me I can't spend 20 minutes fiddling around with a boomerang and a bottle to turn Ganondorf into a fish 😢

    • @Sauraen
      @Sauraen 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Or 9 minutes carrying invisible rocks through loading screens to get ACE... Hmm, if you brought TASBot with you into the world, how would you plug him into the controller ports?

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's when you get Kid Link to play the game and do it. 🧠

  • @megarotom1590
    @megarotom1590 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    So ganondorf even with the stones can’t get the triforce without getting some shmuck to pull the master sword and one worthy of pulling it too

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Right. He could take over Hyrule, but he'd be a run-of-the-mill tyrant, not a divine-tier threat powered by the Triforce of Power.

    • @megarotom1590
      @megarotom1590 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@benjaminoechsli1941 even that’s debatable. Without the triforce of power Ganon has to rely on intrigue to weaken the other kingdoms cause he’d lose in a straight battle

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@megarotom1590 Isn't it implied he successfully killed the king and took Hyrule Castle Town during the sequence leading up to Zelda ditching the Ocarina of Time in the moat for you to grab? Impa wouldn't be fleeing the castle with her unless the situation was _bad._

    • @megarotom1590
      @megarotom1590 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@benjaminoechsli1941 I don’t think so… and besides a surprise attack does a lot but a United front would screw him over. Most of the town is happy the guards by the castle still are functioning and such etc. it’s no doubt he attacked and Impa had to take Zelda somewhere safe but they probably had a decent chance if they actually fought together

  • @danielmarr290
    @danielmarr290 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Only 2 videos, and I am already loving this series! For future videos, I know this is a pretty obscure game, but could you do the Neverhood one day please? The game has such a fascinating and fun world, I would love to see you analysis it for this series.

  • @UsuarioRandom-tf5ie
    @UsuarioRandom-tf5ie 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love this kind of videos❤ hope you upload more, i love the deep research you do to do these🎉

  • @stelscarrot
    @stelscarrot 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Combination of survival and impossible wacky situations. Really makes me sad that I can't go and try to experience and test myself in it. But the genre is my new favorite.

  • @paulo547
    @paulo547 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This concept is absolutely amazing. Keep it up

  • @SanicTheHidgehag
    @SanicTheHidgehag 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Saw your SM64 survive video and really pleased to see you make this!

  • @yannickstevens4021
    @yannickstevens4021 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Was very excited to see a new one of these btw, love this entire concept

  • @lupianwolf
    @lupianwolf 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You should add a section for making/finding weapons to defend yourself against monsters. Also a section on fun/entertainment. In Ocarina there are games to play and fishing to do.
    For Ocarina there are plants that bite you that could count as vegetables. Also bees/honeycomb can make honey which would be nice to have.

  • @Steve-Fallon
    @Steve-Fallon 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a great series and I'm looking forward to it continuing!

  • @erfthe
    @erfthe 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this is such an amazing series can't wait to see where you will try to survive next!

  • @dragondiana8
    @dragondiana8 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Interesting Video! Honestly I really would ask if I could stay in the Kokiri forest/village and would try to socialize to the other kokiri and would everything learn from them (also how to find a way through the forest, and with an ocarina or just sining, I could maybe find a way to play with the horror kids also, even as an adult - 'cause maybe they would stop attack you when u play/sining something. And since everybody of us would know Saria's Song, that wouldn't be a problem).
    The only thing I think u forgot to mention about the food is: Milk. You will get so much milk from the cows/lon-lon-plp everytime. And when there's milk, there should also be a way to make cheese, quark and other things with it. And maybe the chickens also give eggs, so another protein giver. And with all that, maybe there is a way to bake something too! So there are more options to food than just meat everytime.

  • @sajking7269
    @sajking7269 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This series is FANTASTIC I can’t wait for the next one

  • @arcanehighlighter6780
    @arcanehighlighter6780 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love this stuff. Looking into games with a realistic lens never gets old

  • @Kagarine54
    @Kagarine54 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I absolutely love these kinds of videos since Super Mario 64! Its also a neat little way to discover games I've never trully experienced before ( like this one!! ), it almost feels like a very cozy lofi Game Theory video :) Keep it up and take your time, you're having one great idea friend

  • @MeloettaMarmalade
    @MeloettaMarmalade 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is such a great series. I can't wait for the next episode!

  • @hcnye
    @hcnye 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a great idea for a series and it's going great too.
    I'd be curious to dive into some games that don't have a distinct "setting" per se. Like smashbros.... what the hell would that even be like? Getting sent to all kinda of random levels every single day lol.
    But then also the games with real settings are still very interesting to think about. Elder scrolls games would make great videos for this series, and many others too. I'm sure you've got plenty of ideas.

  • @mr.burn-out6553
    @mr.burn-out6553 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Apparently good ol' potions are made of fruits and liquor (most likely wine), so Link seems to have alcohol immunity, but that shows that there are at least fruits.
    Also I saw this bread, basically:
    Hum Saria's song (something that people who are friends of Saria should know)
    At least be able to draw to explain the situation to Saria and the great Deku tree
    Get the fairy ocarina which is enough to use magical music
    Learn to play Saria's song
    Get Kokiri's sword (or dagger at your adult age along with deku nuts and sticks)
    Do Anju's job and get a bottle
    Get a fairy
    Congrats, you have unlocked life H4XX number 1
    Get an audience with Zelda (or just find a way to stealthily modify the wooden planks to enter the castle, at least until you reach Zelda)
    Hum Zelda's lullaby
    Explain your plea with drawings
    Get taught Zelda's lullaby (Ask Zelda to find a way to teach you how to use the light arrow along with Impa and herself)
    Use Saria's song to make Darunia happy
    Get the Goron's bracalet
    Become as strong as a Goron
    Open Dodongo's cavern
    Get the bomb bag
    Learn magic (Get Zelda and Impa to use magic as well)
    Learn Nayru's love
    Congrats, you got life HAXX number 2
    Considering that you can get heart containers to increase your health you could try to follow the story
    (Specially because the Ocarina of Time can make you a time-lord, if you're worried about the whole space-displacement a.k.a. the planet's rotation from the time-jumps, you can just cash favors on the sacred realm)
    By the way if you managed to finish reading this, congrats, also remember that the humble bottle can reflect Ganondorf's magic tennis ball, Link could've theoretically wielded a bottle on each hand and just bullied Ganon into submission.

  • @Nazrininator
    @Nazrininator 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video! The world of Ocarina of Time seems like a very nice place to live in. I have one suggestion for this series: At the end of each video, display a list of all the other worlds you've reviewed with their scores. It would be nice to know how the other worlds compare with each other.

  • @AstonWildsteel
    @AstonWildsteel 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The issue with replacing Link as a human is, unless you're actually a child, there is a good chance you're already screwed. Even by taking the "Ocarina of Time as-is" aspect and thus ignore outside media about what happens to adults getting too deep into the woods, it will nonetheless make the Deku Tree go "How did you slip past my magic radar?" and depending on how things goes, that can go badly. The best hope is the Deku Tree noticing that there is something unique about "human-replacing-Link(tm)", but that has a good chance that person would be loaded with big responsibility. Nevermind that the Deku Tree is bound to die within the first day of arriving in the world, which will negatively affect the safety of the world (and give Ganondorf a free jewel).

  • @Waluigi-155
    @Waluigi-155 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome video! Always looking forward to the next vid the this series.
    In regard to the nutrient question, it is likely you could delay the effects of scurvy by eating herbivores, you would probably still need to supplement it with plants. I've noticed that while the grass you cut is common, it is used in many ways, such as a weed, a decorative plant and a garden plant in a small till by Lake Hylia. Perhaps you could eat it, but not sure. What I am sure about is having potions be a good supplement. Mushrooms are a thing in this game, and are safe to consume, given that powders and potions are made from them. That could be our ticket to thrive.
    As for Ganondorf, there is one extra security feature for the Sacred Realm. The lock and key that is the Master Sword. Kinda hard for anyone that isn't Link to remove it, especially when you're the king of evil. Hasn't fully stopped him before, as seen in this very game and others, but it might work better without a certain someone to draw the sword.

  • @liamwatchesyt1236
    @liamwatchesyt1236 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This series is very cool! Feels kinda nostalgic? Like something from when youtubers made stuff because they wanted to, not for money

  • @dragona.wizard7376
    @dragona.wizard7376 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im loving this series and how you rationalize being a human in a game world. Its perfect 👌

  • @Aquanarius
    @Aquanarius 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for doing this video. Ocarina of time is my favorite video game and I like these kinds of videos.

  • @vegamissyl2469
    @vegamissyl2469 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love this concept. I can't wait to see more!