Plumbing Wastegates and Inside Look of Wastegate Internals: Motion 360
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This video dives into all aspects of plumbing wastegates. We talk about Top Dome Port, Bottom Port plumbing, different solenoids setups, fittings etc.
Whether you are using Tial, JGS, Turbosmart, Precision or one of many other brands of wastegate, this video is a must watch if you are new to wastegates and turbo components, or considering a build in the future. It really isn't difficult if you become armed with the knowledge we present to you.
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Thanks for helping the understanding of the waste gates. Been following a few of your videos now.
I have been asking these questions for 2 weeks. Thanks for putting up this video!
Michael Lone always encouraging to hear we are covering a topic people wanna hear about. Thanks for tuning in! We have lots more vids on the way!
@@MotionRaceworksOfficial do you have a link for cutting tool?
incredibly informative, thank you
Amazing content!
I saw an interesting way to plumb a wastegate into a downpipe. As usual, the wastegate was v-banded to the header. The downpipe part was neat. The owner used a slip joint like you see on a header collector, but welded to the downpipe. He covered it with heat wrap. It was a snug fit, but not stupid snug like you get with a v-band.
lot of help great video sir Thank's
Great information and awesome video.
Awesome stuff I know how waste gates work now I didn’t know before that I’m a nitrous man 🤘
Thanks for all the videos and info you put up! Keep em coming!
Daniel Nuckols happy to help! Thanks for watching!!!
Getting overboost condition and sudden 26-28psi spikes, set up on a single turbo and tial external wastegate with a single three port EBCS.. video helped a lot I’m going to check all the plumbing for leaks and go over all the connections since if pressure isn’t making it to where it needs to be nothing will open right!! Question though, I’ve been running with the line from the turbo to the lower port on the WG with a T to port 1 on the boost control solenoid, port 3 (center) recirculating to intake, and port two direct to the top of the wastegate. Would this be effective/correct if I’m not running co2 and just using a boost pressure source to open WG? And is it the same deal with WG spring + boost pressure source (as in is it increasing the amount of pressure required to open the wastegate or does the EBCS negate the spring pressure?) Sorry if that’s kinda jumbled.. great video, Thank you!
Awesome video.
Great video.
Thanks for the video, very informative. Mr Gasket makes thermal sleeving that looks and works great that you can slip over the plastic air tubing to protect from heat.
You guys make such informative videos. I wish you'd get an external mic, because sometimes the sound is so low I can barely hear you.
great info! thanks
Great vid!!
Great video
Does it matter what way the wastegate dump is facing.
I see your wastegate exist is faced with the flow of the turbo feed pipe off header.
But say if you rotate your wastegate so the dump on drivers side points towards the passenger side do you think that would cause boost creep from the exhaust having to re direct 🤔
I just built my header and my dump kinda points opposite way of flow
Very informative video. Wish you would have touched on cooling lines for the wastegate. I havecused Tial and BoostSmart wastegates in the past and I must BoostSmart is a far better gate
Hey there,
So I purchased the CO2 bottle and parachute actuator kit. Can you use the one CO2 bottle to regulate the wastegate and parachute actuator, without one affect the other
Hi, what can one use for controlling the boost running co2?
I’m installing an eBoost2 boost controller for a single turbo with 2 wastegates. To sum it up, the lines from the solenoid would go to the bottom port of each wastegate, right? Then just leave the normal bolt on top since I’m not using CO2?
Also, do you guys recommend banjo bolts with fittings for wastegate setups?
Can you guys put together a kit with just the fittings or perhaps fittings and line? I already have onboard air and would like to upgrade the rest of the system. Thanks
How do you wire the dome sensor? Can that even be used on a “normal” boost controller? Like a GFB or e boost?
Hi I have a twin turbo subaru with a external gate on it. The hose coming off the gate is teed off the vac line for the blow off valve. Is this correct or should it go straight to the nipple on the turbo??? The gate opens as is but I can't get it to go over 5psi .
So do you recommend using the boost source from the turbo housing? Or the intake manifold?
nice nitro setup
At what point does one decide they need Co2? I mean, i've had no problem running 32psi with a Blitz SBC-iD in dual port config to a Tial MV-R. Is the Co2 just used to hold a gate shut when there's extreme exhaust pressure still pushing it open, or what?
My gated have 2 ports on the bottom. tie the gates together ?
Can you run off spring only ?
Were to do you connect the hose from the top side of the wastegate ?
DO you have fittings for a metric top port on a wastegate?
How about a video on sizing the hot side turbo piping from headers to turbo.
Hello, I'm seeking assistance with my BMW N55 engine, which is experiencing wastegate issues. Initially, the engine runs smoothly upon start-up. However, upon connecting an in/Hg gauge to the wastegate, it reads 5 in/Hg. Surprisingly, at idle around 700 RPM, the gauge jumps to 11 in/Hg. Any guidance on resolving this issue would be greatly appreciated.
Can you run 1 boost controller with CO2
Why not use viair for boost control?
I have wastegate 0.9 bar spring but i cant push the valve like you do..its to hard???
Great video! I’m new to the boost side of things but I’m thinking about Holly ecu setup because HP TUNERS isn’t intuitive at all.. lots of homework 📚 required whereas I’ve heard about the holly setup having a wizard 🧙🏼♀️ that will help me vs reduced engine power because a decimal point was in the wrong spot
Well I mean a decimal point in the wrong place is almost always, universally a very, very bad thing. That’s a woops times ten at best
So do the lines from the mac valves to the top of the dome need to be the same length or is it alright to be different?
Totally ok to be diff length, at the pressure they’re at a little length difference is not going to noticeably effect their performance
I do appreciate you showing us the push connect fittings and line explaining there high quality. However could you provide us with a prpduct name and wherecto source them?
We have links in the description of the video for your convenience! Hope that helps. Appreciate you watching!
I may have missed it in the video. What brand are the push lock fittings and what brand is the Nylon air lines plumbed from the turbo to the wastegate?
Gabriel Padilla they’re listed on our website for sale :)
Motion Raceworks Official even easier, thank you!
So if I run a 6 or 8 # spring and run pressure to dome off compressor housing will that double my pressure also.
Yes plus or minus
@@MotionRaceworksOfficial thanks bro
Has the Nova setup changed from dragweek 18? Ci/turbos?
Manoli k. We made a handful of changes. We removed the direct injection and just use traditional port injection now. Moved a bunch of weight out of the trunk because all it wanted to do was wheelie, got a new shearer fab intercooler lid with bigger intercooler, and a solid rewire lol
My wastegates v-band screws are loosening them self all the time, what can I use to prevent them from doing that?
Dubble nut them or trippe nut if the threads are long enough.
is it better to put the wastegate closer to collector or closer to the turbo inlet?
As long as the exhaust gas has a good flow to the wastegate it doesn't matter too much, mine is offset towards the back of the manifold but in quite a direct flow so it works well, a few friends have had external gates where they had to space them off or run a little tube off the wastegate flange and this meant the boost would creep as the wastegate could not get rid of enough exhaust gas to control the boost as it was too far from the flow.
Just use a solenoid and control the boost from the ecu
Cant i just rely on my blow off valves to regulate boost the same as the procharger setup the concept is the same right?.. if i run a turbo out back and a blow off right off the turbo outlet and 2 by the throttle body have 20 lbs springs they will bleed off everything past 20lbs of boost right?.. and the turbo will whine down when vacuum hits and you let out thw throttle am i wrong in this theory?......
No . If you just put spring in it then it won’t open when you get out the throttle . If you put vacuum to it then it will put boost on top and it will not open . You can do what you’re talking about but you need to control it with c02 .
I just purchased a turbo kit and I want to know Why it is that my turbo does not have the hole in the compressor side where he has put the “push to connect fitting” at 2:34.
Can someone help
Thanks
Some covers have them, some don’t. You can always tap into cold side piping as well or the intake
Hello from Sweden!
Can I have your help and guide?
Very very cool Vid🤔 you may have a problem with boost creep🤔 but you could be one of the lucky ones😬 most guys have a problem with wastegate placement where there is no stream for the wastegate..
Is it possible to run a CO2 wastegate with only the spring and no CO2?
Yes then it just opens at whatever the spring is rated for, most guys run really light springs like delco starter solenoid springs . I don’t run any springs at all.
@ Thanks for the response!! I appreciate it!
How big are those WG's?
v8Billy66 they’re 46mm gates on that 388 cube engine.
What’s that container on the passenger side?
BOOM DROPPED U that’s a dry sump oil tank
Motion Raceworks Official oh ok on the diagram for the boost setup on the solenoids where it say source in on the right side is that where you hook up your manifold pressure or co2?
yeeyee
Damn bro you can talk lol 😂
GFB
You didn't mention placement. Wastegate placement is very important.
why not just plumb the wastegate and control the torque with your right food?
thereby min. spoolup time. cleaner build. cheaper setup. less complicated.
Come again?
well remove the wastegate actuator. plumb the wastegate. choose a matching turbo and intercooler to your engine and control the turbos output by BOV alone...
Why does everyone keep jacking Cleetus’s red lettering on the thumbnail...you guys need to be original. I still like your content but not cool.