I do this! I start off writing with writing in guitar pro and the edit/using already played grooves that I edit so it plays the same notes I use in Guitar pro. Makes it sound more natural!
Wait you can do this? I recently got EZDrummer and I've been spending hours at a time reprogramming everything over from songs I did in guitar pro. You're saying I can just move it over somehow? Somebody please tell me how to do this it will save me literally weeks worth of drum programming lol.
@@jamrhein2 You can just export the midi track from guitar pro and drop it right into whatever DAW you are using. I love doing this because writing in that form of notation much better 😁. Your original comment is a few months old so you probably found out how to do it already but atleast it is here for future drum programmers
To anyone that has Ezdrummer, try messing around with the different kits. You'd be surprised what you might like. I'm using the Dirty Rock kit from Ezdrummer vintage, with a few alterations, for Blackened Melodeath. Sounds huge and gritty
not familiar with the drummers you mentioned - but that's the beauty of music, you can learn so much even from genres/bands you might never hear otherwise. re: SICK drummers - you should check out Hellhammer(Mayhem, Dimmu Borgir), Inferno(Behemoth) or George Kollias(Nile); even if it's not your cup of tea music-wise, these musicians are freakin' CRAZY talented!
I use a midi keyboard and just hammer things in, do overdubs if necessary, touch of quantize and velocity adjust and I'm good. Loops are for cookie cutter. And avoid the Infant Centipede as someone else already said. haha
Ah yes...oh the many hours I have spent in a DAW painstakingly twiddling MIDI notes to try to create a drum track, very very similarly as to what is shown here. The frustration of having a pre-made MIDI loop(s) fit with ANYthing I ever tried manually inputting LOL....THE biggest drag of all time in recording into a DAW as a guitar player imo, is the drums. Someday, some software is gonna simply be able to listen to what I play , and come up with all the correct drum beats in the correct feel and I won't ever again have to bother with it, ha!
Get a midi keyboard and learn to play on that instead, so much easier than with trigger pads, no farting about with deleting notes etc. afterwards you can just rerecord, you can punch in and record bits in sections, slow down tempo to record fancier bits....all this clicking about is nonsense...
If you know how to play drums or know how different parts of the set work, then programming it is a piece of cake, since you probably know your way around a drum kit. And also velocity. That too.
When I do fill in, example rolling from snare to rack tom to floor Tom i usually write all midi notes on snare then try to mess with clicking the mouse to move the midi note to right place.
I agree 100% about not using the pre-made grooves. They sound pretty neat, but in your songs, it just takes away part of the "you" that I like in my own songs. I want to be the creator, and not have it pre-packaged for me.
Not too bad arranging midi drums. And to hit a crash not only can you use the bass drum but the snare as well. This bass/crash or snare/crash combo give the crash power. It's the rule I teach my drum students
Everyone always says leaving notes out of time gives a human element or 'feel'.. I disagree, I think you can put drum notes exactly on the grid and still have it sounding natural.. it's more about what the pattern actually includes, like ghost notes and varied velocities, and what else is happening in the mix
I never knew these pads existed..What i alwaise do is i write my drums with my acoustic guitar in my hand and i try to compose it to the riffs..Its a long process..You way seems way better specially as you can kinda play it to the track...Whats the name of these pads? And is it hard to hook up to your daw? thanks
Cool I have been studying how to better program drums for my guitar riffs. I use a mini Akai professional LPK 25 wireless keyboard but I'm wondering if I should get that irig pad thing like you have. hmmm
How do you figure out bpm and time signature for your riffs? Wish you'd cover this in your theory corner (which is really cool btw). I have lots of issues with bpm/time signature decisions. Sometimes riffs work in multiple different signatures at different bpm and it's so hard to choose the right one.
Just tap your foot to your riff and then in many metronome's and DAW's you just tap it in. There should be a (TAP) button near the BPM. Time signature is straight forward. Just put it at 4/4 but only use one sound for the click and forget about it. LOL
Thanks. I usually able to figure out the initial bpm, it's just the later bpm and signature combination I can't figure out for drum parts. It's a neat idea to just forget about time signature I guess, and write in the drums disregarding any bars. I'll try that.
AlexRoxjar - If it's 4/4 you can create a basic drum pattern and just speed up or down the bpm. If 4/4 isn't working out, use either a metronome or click and just change the time sig until it fits. You should know when it's right as it'll fall into place
Good vid, Trey; I'm new to your channel & you've got a LOT of great stuff to get into, thx a bunch. God, I HATE doing Drums; I'm a terrible drum banger when behind a real kit. Any opinion on the Slate Digital Drums? A pro mixing friend of mine turned me on to those.
I got a iPad Pro, & have been looping the pieces together from HD Drums (or Drums HD?), into Cubasis. Cubasis is fine, but the drum loops are difficult as they vary so much. Too different for the same song. It'll just be a demo to pitch for Indy support, I suppose. Maybe in the near future I can afford a decent PC (back to the dark ages), & get a copy of a decent e-drummer software program to get it right. Thx much for your advise.
So I'm new to drum programming, like noob new. I didn't even know you could multi-layer the recording without erasing what you already did on the same track when he recorded the bass drum. I thought that would record over his snare and high hat...
Hey There... I have a question. I am using SD2 in Pro Tools. In this video, I notice when the gentleman is tracking down each different part, like Hi Hat and Snare, then going over and recording Kick over it. When I try to do this, it erases what I originally laid. How do I achieve what he is doing in this video? Thanks for your help in advance...
what pack does pitched dark kit come with and do I ned end 2?I have 1. debating between modern and massive and this I do August burns red style in drop c and progressive string stuff
@@MrArtVein ggd was cheaper even tho I’m not a fan but I am using that now and just separating all the tracks. So far I like invasion and both one kit wonders. Bought modern and massive never used it 🤷🏻♂️
I'm about to get Guitar Pro, but before I do, is Metallica's Justice drum sound available anywhere for Reaper? GP provided one from their own site, but I don't know if it will work.
drums programming its annoying and the hardest shit. but it is the best way to make your groove better and more dynamic. from all midi staff that comes in ez drummer or any other software i been able to use just fills becouse thats really tough to program.
Unfortunately, although drummers do have souls, some of them aren't very good at keeping a beat and are annoying to deal with, so for us guitar players it's nice have a machine that does the job pretty much perfectly.
To add on to what Joe said, drummers also have their own taste in music that may not match yours, so it’s hard to find a GOOD drummer that is punctual AND wants to play the same music you do. Pretty tall order if you ask me. Nobody in Colorado wants to play high speed Blackened Melodeath, that’s for sure.
Hey Trey, quick question. I'm using reaper as my DAW and I have EZ drummer as my plugin but I can't use my pad in the DAW using the plugin. I can use it in the standalone program. If you could tell me how you made it work on pro tools I maybe able to figure something out over on reaper. Unless you know how to do it on reaper as well. Much appreciated
I see this is from 2 months ago so you may have figured it out, but have you tried going on the reaper forums? Those I have found to be quite helpful when trying to figure things like that out.
EVERYONE: can you tell me everything about this, all of the gear / instruments / computer/ peripherals so that i can just duplicate it and call it my own?
while this a drum cover that is amazing in it's own right, it more easily lets the listener observe the incredible musicianship of one of the drummers I mentioned in my previous comment, Inferno. The song covered is "Slaves Shall Serve" by Behemoth: th-cam.com/video/WIhDyLu4otA/w-d-xo.html
Here's a fun thought. LEARN TO PLAY DRUMS!! you are everything wrong with "music" slate 5 slate 5. pick up some sticks (7a) if your a delicate little twinkie) and an evans practice pad and put in the effort.
Better idea: do whatever you want and don’t listen to sad trolls on the internet. This is a tutorial that you clicked on called How To Program Drums, why the fuck would you do that if you feel that way?
I'm looking for a death metal drum programmer for hire,I'm serious I'm no programmer and willing to discuss payment via paypal ect.for approximately 5 tracks,,,please contact me on here if interested. TOTALLY SERIOUS THANK YOU.
"you should not try to make your drummer an octopus"
*cough cough* infant annihilator.
counting worms
ew
Jamie Saint merat >>
have you ever heard about Aquiles Priester?
@@trumansinclair7653 I like you
Tell that to Danny Carrey
programming a midi in guitar pro and throwing it directly in Ez Drummer is a very good way to make grooves also.
I do this! I start off writing with writing in guitar pro and the edit/using already played grooves that I edit so it plays the same notes I use in Guitar pro. Makes it sound more natural!
Wait you can do this? I recently got EZDrummer and I've been spending hours at a time reprogramming everything over from songs I did in guitar pro. You're saying I can just move it over somehow? Somebody please tell me how to do this it will save me literally weeks worth of drum programming lol.
Also works for programming bass, I usually throw the kick drum onto the root note of the bass and start there.
@@jamrhein2 You can just export the midi track from guitar pro and drop it right into whatever DAW you are using. I love doing this because writing in that form of notation much better 😁. Your original comment is a few months old so you probably found out how to do it already but atleast it is here for future drum programmers
Yes I use guitar pro 5, more than 10 years old but very simple and fast
To anyone that has Ezdrummer, try messing around with the different kits. You'd be surprised what you might like. I'm using the Dirty Rock kit from Ezdrummer vintage, with a few alterations, for Blackened Melodeath. Sounds huge and gritty
Yeah otherwise it's basically triggering a trigger sounding kit which gets odd to me with the metal kits.
You had my curiosity, but when you said Blackened Melodeath, you now have my attention. I’ll have to try that out!
Trey....you are amazing.
I am soooo addicted to this channel.
I write the drums line on GuitarPro, export MIDI and open it on Recording Software (I use Sonar).
I do it as well, I don't know if there's a form of doing it faster. But it works because you're the writer :)
not familiar with the drummers you mentioned - but that's the beauty of music, you can learn so much even from genres/bands you might never hear otherwise. re: SICK drummers - you should check out Hellhammer(Mayhem, Dimmu Borgir), Inferno(Behemoth) or George Kollias(Nile); even if it's not your cup of tea music-wise, these musicians are freakin' CRAZY talented!
i usually program from scratch being a good drummer helps a ton i can typically program a full song with intricate drums ina bout an hour or two
Another tip.. cut your tempo in half when adding drum parts.. much easier to hear and add/subtract.
Learned a lot...Thank you
I use a midi keyboard and just hammer things in, do overdubs if necessary, touch of quantize and velocity adjust and I'm good. Loops are for cookie cutter.
And avoid the Infant Centipede as someone else already said. haha
Ah yes...oh the many hours I have spent in a DAW painstakingly twiddling MIDI notes to try to create a drum track, very very similarly as to what is shown here. The frustration of having a pre-made MIDI loop(s) fit with ANYthing I ever tried manually inputting LOL....THE biggest drag of all time in recording into a DAW as a guitar player imo, is the drums. Someday, some software is gonna simply be able to listen to what I play , and come up with all the correct drum beats in the correct feel and I won't ever again have to bother with it, ha!
Get a midi keyboard and learn to play on that instead, so much easier than with trigger pads, no farting about with deleting notes etc. afterwards you can just rerecord, you can punch in and record bits in sections, slow down tempo to record fancier bits....all this clicking about is nonsense...
That's a good idea
Logic Pro X does at least something like that with its Drummer function. It's freaking amazing. Or at least a starting point. :D
an AI drummer that isn't always late or needs a ride to the gig LOL
Or just pay me and I'll do it
nice vid.... would be more helpful if you could turn the click track off after you've some of the pattern so the drums could actually be heard. cheers
+Tavares Project He did at some point.
The head bob test - I love it! A tutorial every guitarist can relate to!
Great video Trey. Keep up the good work. It is appreciated.
If you know how to play drums or know how different parts of the set work, then programming it is a piece of cake, since you probably know your way around a drum kit. And also velocity. That too.
When I do fill in, example rolling from snare to rack tom to floor Tom i usually write all midi notes on snare then try to mess with clicking the mouse to move the midi note to right place.
I agree 100% about not using the pre-made grooves. They sound pretty neat, but in your songs, it just takes away part of the "you" that I like in my own songs. I want to be the creator, and not have it pre-packaged for me.
Not too bad arranging midi drums. And to hit a crash not only can you use the bass drum but the snare as well. This bass/crash or snare/crash combo give the crash power. It's the rule I teach my drum students
But this guy doesn't Know shit about drumming sadly...
Who knew Will Ferrell's brother was a sickass producer.
For serious though, great video, thank you.
Get a Roland td 3 it’s an old kit but works well with ez drummer
Why don't you just quantize to 75-80%?
Everyone always says leaving notes out of time gives a human element or 'feel'.. I disagree, I think you can put drum notes exactly on the grid and still have it sounding natural.. it's more about what the pattern actually includes, like ghost notes and varied velocities, and what else is happening in the mix
That's a filthy riff! Drums are coming right along! Thanks dude!
I never knew these pads existed..What i alwaise do is i write my drums with my acoustic guitar in my hand and i try to compose it to the riffs..Its a long process..You way seems way better specially as you can kinda play it to the track...Whats the name of these pads? And is it hard to hook up to your daw?
thanks
IK Multimedia iRig PADS, and no it's not hard, it was plug and play for me
Ok thanks ill get one.
Good stuff man!
Thanks for this, great insight
I didn't think you could finger drum in EZDrummer, only Superior Drummer? How do you get the drum pads or keys mated to EZDrummer?
Personally, I like the piano roll because you can use Toontrack programs and still make your own custom beats.
You want blasting backbeats, but you don't use a rimshot sample?
Fantastic. Really helpful. I've been mousing in stuff. Carpal tunnel. Oh yeah. Trump. Forgot about adding Trump into everything.
Guitarpal tunnel?
Make Midi Great Again
Cool I have been studying how to better program drums for my guitar riffs. I use a mini Akai professional LPK 25 wireless
keyboard but I'm wondering if I should get that irig pad thing like you have. hmmm
Drummer in a pool...”I love splashes”
Do you still have the irig pad
How do you figure out bpm and time signature for your riffs? Wish you'd cover this in your theory corner (which is really cool btw). I have lots of issues with bpm/time signature decisions. Sometimes riffs work in multiple different signatures at different bpm and it's so hard to choose the right one.
Just tap your foot to your riff and then in many metronome's and DAW's you just tap it in. There should be a (TAP) button near the BPM. Time signature is straight forward. Just put it at 4/4 but only use one sound for the click and forget about it. LOL
Thanks. I usually able to figure out the initial bpm, it's just the later bpm and signature combination I can't figure out for drum parts. It's a neat idea to just forget about time signature I guess, and write in the drums disregarding any bars. I'll try that.
AlexRoxjar - If it's 4/4 you can create a basic drum pattern and just speed up or down the bpm. If 4/4 isn't working out, use either a metronome or click and just change the time sig until it fits. You should know when it's right as it'll fall into place
Great video
Good vid, Trey; I'm new to your channel & you've got a LOT of great stuff to get into, thx a bunch.
God, I HATE doing Drums; I'm a terrible drum banger when behind a real kit.
Any opinion on the Slate Digital Drums?
A pro mixing friend of mine turned me on to those.
I got a iPad Pro, & have been looping the pieces together from HD Drums (or Drums HD?), into Cubasis. Cubasis is fine, but the drum loops are difficult as they vary so much. Too different for the same song. It'll just be a demo to pitch for Indy support, I suppose. Maybe in the near future I can afford a decent PC (back to the dark ages), & get a copy of a decent e-drummer software program to get it right. Thx much for your advise.
what is the layout of your finger drums?
So I'm new to drum programming, like noob new. I didn't even know you could multi-layer the recording without erasing what you already did on the same track when he recorded the bass drum. I thought that would record over his snare and high hat...
How do I record specific MIDI notes without resetting the entire track?
MIDI Merge Mode
How do you use an Electronic Drum set for this
3:56 hahahaha, you're awesome, dude
I feel like this takes waayyyyy longer than just programming your own beats
Hey There... I have a question. I am using SD2 in Pro Tools. In this video, I notice when the gentleman is tracking down each different part, like Hi Hat and Snare, then going over and recording Kick over it. When I try to do this, it erases what I originally laid. How do I achieve what he is doing in this video? Thanks for your help in advance...
You need to turn on Midi Merge mode
Thanks so much!!! 🤘
The Best!!!!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍 #VSTi #Toontrack #Ezdrummer2 #IlikeMusic
Excellent job. You are a very good instructor. I should know this, but how do you do the picture in picture is it software, if so, the name please
Which daw are you using sir??
Artificial intelligence should be put in the drum software. Or it is already? & i miss it.. 🤔🤔🤔
Could you use your keyboard to make the sounds? Like not piano keyboard, actual keyboard
Yes but it's a pain
Hey man, been really enjoying your videos :) Could you share the guitar & amp used on the guitar track? I actually really dig the tone! Cheers
What version of protools are you using?
Josh RiffMonster Pro Tools 12
Awesome..thnx
I use logic. What do you have to do to sync the iRIG drum pad to control EZ Drummer?
+Jared Hewitt I didn't have to do anything in PT, it was plug and play, I imagine it's the same with Logic but I don't know.
Gear Gods awesome thanks so much!
what pack does pitched dark kit come with and do I ned end 2?I have 1. debating between modern and massive and this I do August burns red style in drop c and progressive string stuff
Which one did you end up getting
@@MrArtVein I already was using ez drummer and to upgrade and everything and then get extra kits was too expensive
@@MrArtVein ggd was cheaper even tho I’m not a fan but I am using that now and just separating all the tracks. So far I like invasion and both one kit wonders. Bought modern and massive never used it 🤷🏻♂️
thanks m8
I'm about to get Guitar Pro, but before I do, is Metallica's Justice drum sound available anywhere for Reaper? GP provided one from their own site, but I don't know if it will work.
Is that same editing screen possible with Superior Drummer in PT8le? That's what I currently use.
are there any good alternatives to Irig Pads? I need the same number of pads
MIDI keyboard?
mezsh no, I have midi keyboard that has no pads. It`s inconvenient to use keyboard for drums
I have an Alesis V49, it has pads too. it was quite cheap, I think I paid £75 just over a year ago.
mezsh thanks. Not enough pads though. I decided to get Akai MPD218
I just got the Akai MK2 mini. Small keyboard with 8 VERY sensitive pads. It was $119 Canadian, so if you are from the states, you are laughin.
is ur iRig controller pressure sensitive?
Yes
awesome
That ghost note face! Haha! So true!
one more sub for you bro!
This is my office and my beat laboratory DON'T TOUCH IT! Okayeeee..!?
drums programming its annoying and the hardest shit. but it is the best way to make your groove better and more dynamic.
from all midi staff that comes in ez drummer or any other software i been able to use just fills becouse thats really tough to program.
I got a free demo of fl studio. Im now a producer...
What if you are math prog Rock. You do the jerky head bob test? Lol
whay DAW is that
Pro Tools
Hey, what DAW are you using? cool vid.
Pro tools
Drum machines have no souls but if you don’t play them then it’s okay for you to use them for demos
or to use to jamm when the drummer cant show up LOL
Unfortunately, although drummers do have souls, some of them aren't very good at keeping a beat and are annoying to deal with, so for us guitar players it's nice have a machine that does the job pretty much perfectly.
To add on to what Joe said, drummers also have their own taste in music that may not match yours, so it’s hard to find a GOOD drummer that is punctual AND wants to play the same music you do. Pretty tall order if you ask me. Nobody in Colorado wants to play high speed Blackened Melodeath, that’s for sure.
only in metal is 150 BPM considered slow.
Your name is ridiculously cool.
When you refer to an Octopus you make me think of Danny Carey.
Hey Trey, quick question. I'm using reaper as my DAW and I have EZ drummer as my plugin but I can't use my pad in the DAW using the plugin. I can use it in the standalone program. If you could tell me how you made it work on pro tools I maybe able to figure something out over on reaper. Unless you know how to do it on reaper as well. Much appreciated
I see this is from 2 months ago so you may have figured it out, but have you tried going on the reaper forums? Those I have found to be quite helpful when trying to figure things like that out.
zach bishop I actually fixed it, I switched USB ports and started working.
I dunno man I play guitar and plug into an amp not a computer . I click on the mouse after I’ve recorded and imported .
Biased , yes I know
This is why I don't have time for grills
Ain't nobody has time for grills
EVERYONE: can you tell me everything about this, all of the gear / instruments / computer/ peripherals so that i can just duplicate it and call it my own?
Lol...
I manually do my midi Maps Brew
vocal recognition software would halve your/my programming time. on your wave bud
while this a drum cover that is amazing in it's own right, it more easily lets the listener observe the incredible musicianship of one of the drummers I mentioned in my previous comment, Inferno. The song covered is "Slaves Shall Serve" by Behemoth: th-cam.com/video/WIhDyLu4otA/w-d-xo.html
Back when he had hair.
*bratboomboom*
I got annoyed by the metronome , really appreciate the work but
its too annoying to hear metronome for such a long time
3:59 XD
Take out the metronome sound!!!!!!!!! Makes it impossible to hear the drums.
6:55
Here's a fun thought. LEARN TO PLAY DRUMS!! you are everything wrong with "music" slate 5 slate 5. pick up some sticks (7a) if your a delicate little twinkie) and an evans practice pad and put in the effort.
Better idea: do whatever you want and don’t listen to sad trolls on the internet. This is a tutorial that you clicked on called How To Program Drums, why the fuck would you do that if you feel that way?
71,000 View!😂😂😂
hmm, first chance I've ever had to say "First"... I feel like pissing it away anyway.
Omg to hard 4 me hahaha
God that metronome sound is obnoxious
I'm looking for a death metal drum programmer for hire,I'm serious I'm no programmer and willing to discuss payment via paypal ect.for approximately 5 tracks,,,please contact me on here if interested. TOTALLY SERIOUS THANK YOU.