Vader - When Hulk Hogan Double Crossed Me in WCW

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  • Vader discusses the time Hulk Hogan double crossed him in WCW during a match. Full shoot ➤ TitleMatchNetwork.com
    Produced, licensed & distributed by Title Match Media LLC. Enjoy the full Vader (1998) shoot interview on our streaming subscription service, TitleMatchNetwork.com.
    Title Match Media LLC digitally remastered the original raw footage, including color correction and advanced audio editing specifically for this TH-cam release.
    Vader came into WCW and absolutely dominated the early half of the 1990s. By the time Hulk Hogan came to town in 1994 all bets were all off. Find out how Hogan would routinely agree to stipulations and finishes only to change his mind at the last minute. Or how about when Hulk Hogan kicked out of Vader's finishing move mid match after agreeing not to? Vader gives us a little bit of insight to wrestling politics that went down in WCW and WWF.
    This Vader shoot interview was conducted in 1998.
    RIP Vader (Leon White)
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  • @TitleMatchWrestling
    @TitleMatchWrestling  4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

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    • @macdaddy1149
      @macdaddy1149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is not a back Hogan isn’t willing to stab or a lie he won’t tell rather than the truth. Hogan was snd still is about Hogan, no the business, the boys or the company he works for. I wish Vader had shot on Hogan if for no other reason than to humble him and get pay back for everyone Hogan had screwed or lied too.

    • @macdaddy1149
      @macdaddy1149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      midnight chocker
      Vader passed away a few years back so this isn’t recent.

    • @jpbart1390
      @jpbart1390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bigfoot2347 he was 43 in this vid & i look much younger at 44.

  • @feelgood951
    @feelgood951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    For being such a big monster in the ring Vader seemed like a pretty cool dude im surprised how quiet his voice is

    • @mj-7444
      @mj-7444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Until it snaps

    • @YousefTube
      @YousefTube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mj-7444 have you forgot about the interview in Kuwait.

    • @mj-7444
      @mj-7444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It being Vader.
      He was really really strong

    • @ASimpleHeroinUser
      @ASimpleHeroinUser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@YousefTube that was planned 😆😆

    • @dasledogg64
      @dasledogg64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Boy Meets World!

  • @jessemersier5499
    @jessemersier5499 4 ปีที่แล้ว +294

    The single biggest mistake WCW made was giving Hogan creative control over his matches.

    • @CavemanJesus4Life
      @CavemanJesus4Life 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Well Turner wanted Hogan, and they gave him everything just to sign him.
      Before he turned heel for the NWO, Hogan asked for 20k a month for turning heel. Because Hogan felt he would lose merchandise sells if he turned heel, then he made more money as a heel and still kept the 20k a month.

    • @blackraphael3594
      @blackraphael3594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @Damien Jones Actually because Hogan had lost quite a bit of the luster and mainstream adoration he had back at his peak, interest in tuning in to see Hogan do his shtick and usual promos were pretty mild tbh, lol. Hogan's debut and first 2 years at WcW only saw a minor spike in interest. THEN WcW got to the top via a combination of The Outsiders and Hogan forming the NWO and the emergence of Crow Sting. Even Hogan himself, at Bash At The Beach, in a semi-shoot said (where he turned heel as the 3rd NWO man) " ..The reception I got when I came out here...You fans can stick it brother " Lol, he was about 25% in character, and 75% just being Hogan. Hogan had some Hulkamaniacs showing up to shows... but that following, that attendance and those ratings were meager compared to when he WAS the top draw.

    • @pumpkinsdontcry
      @pumpkinsdontcry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      If hogan were such a draw Vince would've never let him go.

    • @bourbon646
      @bourbon646 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@pumpkinsdontcry steroid scandal, hogans age and Vince thinking back then that a y guy can draw.
      Today Vince has more faith in Brocklesnar, Goldberg and Undertaker than the current roster. That's because he knows not all guys can draw. Hogan was the biggest WWF draw, Randy Savage and Ultimate warrior were also decent. But Vince went with Bret hart and Shawn Michaels and the business fell down.

    • @scottsnow137
      @scottsnow137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@pumpkinsdontcry Kumar said part of it. Hogan at the time had no plans of returning to Wrestling as well as he wanted to do Movies and Tv shows, he started Thunder in paradise tv show at the time and was content on doing that. It wasn't until Flair and a few other guys kept asking him to come to WCW which he at 1st kept saying No to until he was offered a contract so massive he couldn't say No to. Look this up its been well confirmed by multiple wrestlers , Bischoff, and Hogan.

  • @brianconnelly1238
    @brianconnelly1238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I'm 43 years old, I been a Hulkamaniac since Wrestlemania 2 in 1986, I'm still a fan of Hulk Hogan to this day, despite my fandom, I said this when this match originally took place, and I'm saying this now, Vader should have won that FIRST match at Superbrawl, and not by a fluke either, Vader should have destroyed him, it would have been HUGE business! Hulk Hogan trying to get revenge, trying to take down the mighty monster BIG VAN VADER! But I'm sure that wouldn't have worked for him BROTHER!

    • @johannbarker11
      @johannbarker11 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always thought the same thing. Vader vs Flair or Hogan with Vader going over would have just made sense. I re-watching WCW now over the network and WCW at this time was just laughable.

    • @kckc6578
      @kckc6578 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So at like 13-14 years old in the mid 90’s you were watching wrestling with that mindset? I’m
      The same age and I was still watching it as a mark. But Vader was my favorite big guy ever. Even as a Hulkamaniac

    • @joeyoconnor3039
      @joeyoconnor3039 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hogan is a selfish prick..that simple

  • @CreightonChaney-io4xv
    @CreightonChaney-io4xv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    RIP Vader
    You deserved better 😢

  • @christopherbeebe1064
    @christopherbeebe1064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I remember Hogan saying the mans too strong, as a face AND used a chair on Vader. Vader should of won cleanly over him, like ddp should of been the guy to end Goldbergs winning streak.

  • @thecountofmontecristo3957
    @thecountofmontecristo3957 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Vader discusses this incident in his book. Hogan was supposed to take the power bomb and just lay there for a long time until the officials took him out in a stretcher. The idea was to sell Vader as this super-strong villain. Hogan’s explanation for no-selling is that he was calling an audible based on the live crowd’s reaction.

  • @bigvalboski811
    @bigvalboski811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Vader has good mind for wrestling he should have been a booker.

    • @gesarts3625
      @gesarts3625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      *Had a good mind for wrestling. R.I.P Vader

    • @at0micwerew0lf
      @at0micwerew0lf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes!! 🏴‍☠️🍺⚡🍺🏴‍☠️

    • @aotearoa4eva924
      @aotearoa4eva924 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gesarts3625 *HAS

    • @gesarts3625
      @gesarts3625 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aotearoa4eva924 he is dead... so HAD.

  • @embracinglogic1744
    @embracinglogic1744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    Hogan to everyone: "Well, you know something, brother, screw you, dude."

    • @vampirascoffin870
      @vampirascoffin870 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      😅🤣😅🤣
      " That doesnt work for me bortha "

    • @allnfun6315
      @allnfun6315 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Also Hogan: Nice wife brother. Hey how about...

    • @heatherphillips5983
      @heatherphillips5983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hogan's gotta Hogan.

    • @John-mg7fb
      @John-mg7fb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can hear that in my head in Hogan's voice too. 🤣🤣

    • @pelicanphuucker4life
      @pelicanphuucker4life 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vampirascoffin870 Bortha? Are you trying to roll me up brother? Is that what this is to you brother? A joke? How do you know my Grandma's name is Bortha brother? Bortha Bolea dude. That's my Grandma's name brother. She used to ride into town on her Hog with her 22" pythons hanging in those ape hangers brother and she'd stroll up to the Baddest dude on the block brother and by he grace of the Big Hulkamaniac in the sky dude lift that big nasty giant up over her head dude and as he came crashing down brother the people would sing Yankee Doodle Dandy dude and come unglued for the Bortha'ster brother. Borthamania was running wild dude!

  • @chrisjenkins8450
    @chrisjenkins8450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Big Van Vader with the head gear and Harley Race was awesome.

  • @jimsydnor7878
    @jimsydnor7878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Vader should have potatoed Hogan when he got up after the powerbomb that way

    • @timothycrosby4251
      @timothycrosby4251 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      He probably would have been fired. Hogan seems like he did more harm than good in WCW.

    • @toddrichardson8595
      @toddrichardson8595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Hogan was waxing Bischoff's mushroom tip so he could do whatever he wanted to do...

    • @jimmyfaustjr6413
      @jimmyfaustjr6413 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@toddrichardson8595 yep. Same things he did with Vince back in the day.

    • @michaelnemeth5242
      @michaelnemeth5242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Oh I wish he would have! Vader was absolutely right in this interview

    • @TNAROHfan
      @TNAROHfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@timothycrosby4251 I was never a Hogan fan, I always thought he was lazy as hell and would almost never go out of his way to try to step up and deliver a good show. Only in Japan did he ever put a lot of effort into his matches. Even as a kid, I could see this and I thought that shtick was lame. His theatrics were fine, but Jesus give us more than a few poses, hulking up, a big boot and a leg drop for God's sake. Instead it was got your money suckers, that is all you are getting in the main event. I bought the first 2 Wrestlemania's, but after that I would only watch it at someone else's expense, and it was the under-card I was interested in.
      I could tolerate him in WWF, because I really didn't care about WWF as anything but just a second choice at that point, but the day he stepped into WCW, it was like a kick in the gut, because I knew even then what it meant as soon as he jobbed out Flair. It meant that WCW, the legacy of the NWA and Jim Crockett Promotions which was my wrestling brand of choice from the time I was 9 years old, was unquestionably over.
      As rough as the early 90's was with all the nonsense creeping in on TBS, there was still enough to where it was still Sting, the Steiners, Flair, Steamboat, Rude, Vader and all the other amazing talents who would go out make up for all the crap by killing it in the ring. It still felt like the NWA, which I came to love. Once Hogan came, it was just Hulk Hogan's rock n wrestling redux and I hated it. When the NWO came around it was kind of cool for about a year, but it was really ECW that peaked my interest through this period. I never trusted the WWF in the Attitude era enough to be financially invested, because I knew Vince McMahon was only doing it because he had no other choice.

  • @pumpkinsdontcry
    @pumpkinsdontcry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Vader legit scared me when I was a kid.

    • @theblueoctopus4494
      @theblueoctopus4494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For me it was King Kong Bundy. I grew up in the 80s. That was before Vaders reign in the 90s.

    • @JoseFlores-xc7wu
      @JoseFlores-xc7wu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He just to scared me too until i saw him on Boy Meet World i use to love that show and love Vader cameos on the show you know that he must to have a good sense of humor cause his name on the show was Leslie Stechino the dad of Frankie the Enforcer

    • @5280mminnick
      @5280mminnick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JoseFlores-xc7wu Man i love his Boy Meets World stuff. When Mr. Feeny calls him out and calls him Mr Stechino and Vader just melts😂😂😂😂 Classic

    • @vcvortex6356
      @vcvortex6356 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Kamala looked right at me with his eyes wide and tilted his head when I was 10 in 1986. It freaked me out pretty bad. I didn't cry or anything, but he was scary at that age. Now, I would love to be able to meet him. It will probably never happen, but it would be cool.

    • @samael5200
      @samael5200 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      For me it would have been Viscera , that dude made me straight up hide my face when he came out

  • @mattsharkey8437
    @mattsharkey8437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Hulk Hogan is the classical Covert Narcissist. He had an unbelievable character portrayed a certain way and behind closed doors screwed over too many wrestlers

    • @Ditka-89
      @Ditka-89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not to mention, banged his best friends wife post wrestling

    • @oscarvillarreal8951
      @oscarvillarreal8951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Makes you glad ultimate warrior beat him clean in Wrestle mania 6

    • @oscarvillarreal8951
      @oscarvillarreal8951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it was 6?

    • @DaDitka
      @DaDitka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As someone else said, I would go to war with Hulk Hogan. I wouldn't touch Terry Bollea with a 30' pole.

    • @Tainopisno1
      @Tainopisno1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Higan ratted out Jesse ventura to vince about forming a wrestling union and vince forced Jesse to retire or fired ventura. Hogan was the 1 who got vince off his summer of 1994 steroid trial and lied under oath Said vince didn't give hogan steroids or other wrestlers steroids but vince forced wrestlers to take steroids or get fired, that's why vince got bailed out during the federal steroid trial cause he made hogan a big star and make millions. Hogan also didn't wanna put over bret hart and ric flair for the wwf title.

  • @wigg1yscott554
    @wigg1yscott554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When Hulk got up from Vaders finish, Vader should have put him straight back down.

  • @jamesdixon6332
    @jamesdixon6332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I've never really liked Hogan. A lot of that has to do with growing up watching NWA and WCW in the 80s and being a big Sting fan. Now that I'm older and know about how dirty Hogan was back stage, I'm glad I never was a fan. Still not.

    • @kibadubio
      @kibadubio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bandana and hair extensions 😂

    • @gmcintosh5596
      @gmcintosh5596 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's the best of all time

    • @jamesdixon6332
      @jamesdixon6332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Make Me Believe yes

    • @daviddoyle8956
      @daviddoyle8956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hogan was a back stabbing prick. He sucked as a wrestler would not wrestle certain people probably due to the fact they would make him look bad bottom line is Hogan looked after Hogan.

    • @chrisblester37
      @chrisblester37 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Even in the day I was never a hogan fan that pump up superhero shit he did made wrestling look fake and thats what I don't like I loved titos flying forearm that looked real and after being hit with that you can see why guys went down .same as the ddt. But all hogan had was his leg drop that wouldn't stop me so why did it stop the best guys he was just toooo fake for me and then he steals his mates wife really how can that be a hero .maybe he wanted two wife's his hot blonde and miss Elizabeth that would have been good times in the 80s

  • @moubear32
    @moubear32 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Hogan at that point was riding on his name. He didn't have the body anymore that's for sure. He got off the juice, nobody liked him down south (the fans) and he got booed walking in the door. As far as the Vader match. Leon should have understood that Hogan did that with everybody, never a real comeback story. Always keeps the belt and go on vacation with an " injury " that's been his m.o. forever. Sting gets hurt, loses the belt, comes back and wins it again. Hogan refused to do this. He would let it get passed on to the next guy also and then wrestle him. His comeback story has never involved him dropping the belt. Vader is a good guy, if he says he was gonna give it back, he was . See stings shoot on vader, he always gave back.

    • @saveus228
      @saveus228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      he was also riding his ppv record. even in WCW, hogan in 94-96 before the nwo had ppv numbers that flair, sting and vader never came close to before hogan arrived..

    • @moubear32
      @moubear32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@saveus228 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that's hilarious. There was no ppv record when he first arrived in wcw, infact the numbers were down. People in the south were not in love with hulkamania like they were in the north and we know that because his numbers were dropping up north too. When he finally smartend up and did the nwo bit is when his numbers climbed again. Even if you were born, day 1, yesterday, you'd know that. The 20 people that hit the like button on my comment know that because most of us lived during that era. I myself have been in the business so I know what I know from people working at that time.

    • @moubear32
      @moubear32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@saveus228 " OH MY neck brother " 😂🤣🤣🤣 nice try

    • @dougvuillemot8670
      @dougvuillemot8670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@moubear32 . yup. Hogan coming to wcw turned me to WWF. Wcw lost its way. The ending usually were 10 person beat downs. They lost there way.

    • @DAKINS896
      @DAKINS896 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@moubear32 WCW was on TBS it was broadcast throughout the entire USA. It wasn't on local syndicates in a few Dixie markets at Noon on Saturday morning.

  • @dannycosta5540
    @dannycosta5540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    VADER is a badass LEGEND

  • @Ghuff12
    @Ghuff12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    “That doesn’t work for me brother, how bout I drop the leg on you and we call it a day, brother”

  • @viclopsxmen7624
    @viclopsxmen7624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Vador rules !! He doesn't get enough credit for being a great worker

  • @toddferguson4571
    @toddferguson4571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I regret I never got to see Vader wrestle live.

  • @phunku8888
    @phunku8888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Vader was a sweet heart. How the business do this man dirty with no pause.

  • @charismatic9904
    @charismatic9904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    God: Its your time Hulk. Today you will pass away and come to heaven.
    Hogan: that doesn't work for me brother.

  • @GameTime-yj6qv
    @GameTime-yj6qv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Don't you all wish Vader would have gone shoot mode on Hogan when he immediately got up from thr vader bomb and pinned him? Same withem Shawn Michaels at Summerslam.

    • @GameTime-yj6qv
      @GameTime-yj6qv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @Damien Jones its different, that was Undertaker's gimmick. Everyone in the locker room knew it. Hogan here was supposed to stay down to sell the Vader Bomb and decided to no sell it and jump up immediately.

    • @jamieallen2126
      @jamieallen2126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Actually, the undertaker character was a mockery of wrestling. Not even kids believed he was a real dead man, just another cartoon character.

    • @scottsnow137
      @scottsnow137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@GameTime-yj6qv Hogan "Hulked up" that was his gimmick as well. he did it in like every match just about popping right up no selling a big move.

    • @GameTime-yj6qv
      @GameTime-yj6qv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@scottsnow137 i know he did. But Vader is saying that Hogan was supposed to stay down awhile to sell the Vader Bomb. Then decided right there in the ring to pop right up.

    • @pazuzu66613
      @pazuzu66613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @Damien Jones If Taker says he's going to stay down, you can always trust that Taker is going to stay down.

  • @My19812011
    @My19812011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Being a HUGE Sting fan as a kid I hated Big Van Vader at the same time but he was truly a monster heel that put the fear of god into you on screen, off screen he was always said to be one of the softest and nicest people you could meet

  • @CornwallOutlaw
    @CornwallOutlaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I like hogan but he also ratted out Jessie the body for trying to unionize

    • @jokerswank6082
      @jokerswank6082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah that was just wrong. Imagine what that could've done for the wrestlers.

    • @Ditka-89
      @Ditka-89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Really fucked up considering Hogan had nothing to lose from his fellow wrestler unionizing

    • @arronboyce3223
      @arronboyce3223 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I agree .. he didn't need to do that at all .

    • @happyangler998
      @happyangler998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You really think having a union is the way to go???? Either you are in a union or you've never been around one.

    • @kpax45
      @kpax45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well selfish Hogan didn't want a union, that meant other guys would get paid more, Hogan wanted it all for himself.

  • @diluted8
    @diluted8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I feel like I'm having breakfast with Vader at a diner.

  • @Ralphanthonybianscomusic
    @Ralphanthonybianscomusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Butcher the Beefcake Whatever. That’s the name Ed Leslie should have used for his entire career.

    • @mr.mirchenstein6549
      @mr.mirchenstein6549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The beefcake, the butcher, the candlestick maker...I remember in WCW when Beefcake changed his name to "The Man With No Name" Yes, That actually happened 😂

    • @johntangen3652
      @johntangen3652 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mr.mirchenstein6549 Let's not forget the ZODIAC!!!!!!!! (YES!!! NO!!!! YES!!! NO!!!!)

    • @iLikeMyOwnPosts
      @iLikeMyOwnPosts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Butcher the Beefcake should be a modern wrestler’s name

    • @TheRoberino2001
      @TheRoberino2001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@iLikeMyOwnPosts It should. And he should be a fat hepatitis riddled Hamburglar ripoff who gets buried instantly.

    • @ConnbineHarvester
      @ConnbineHarvester 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This should amuse you, th-cam.com/video/V7OPKZLrOTs/w-d-xo.html

  • @Chronoic
    @Chronoic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Vader thought Hogan was bad, went to WWE and Shawn Michaels told Hogan "hold my beer".

    • @v.k.rt.m.6030
      @v.k.rt.m.6030 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anthonybatissa1417 I read it in Shawn Michaels' voice.

    • @tyrone1544
      @tyrone1544 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, ok stupid.

    • @DAKINS896
      @DAKINS896 ปีที่แล้ว

      yea atleast hogan filled the seats

    • @joshge81
      @joshge81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Hold my earrings"

    • @eric2794
      @eric2794 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shawn michaels is a flash in the pan Hogan is a Legend…

  • @Sneakerveli
    @Sneakerveli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I always thought Vader never got the rewards of being a good wrestler. I always was a fan! R.I.P. big guy💪🏿❤

    • @leeguidry9850
      @leeguidry9850 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Him and bam bam bigelow to of the most agile big men to ever lace up wrestling boots

  • @antoniocapulera
    @antoniocapulera 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Vader was so captivating! Can’t help but cheer how talented he was, no matter how good a heel!

  • @mattthomas1442
    @mattthomas1442 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    With the way Vader is talking, specifically when he says things like "that was a lot of money back then" you think that he was describing something that happened decades prior but this was shot in 98 and the events he is talking about were in 95, but the way wrestling was in 95 and the way it was in 98 sure as hell felt like more than a 3 year difference.

    • @lastone032085
      @lastone032085 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cost of living went up dramatically in those few years specifically after coming out of a recession.

    • @dennisjr77
      @dennisjr77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      After the formation of the NWO; WCW and wrestling in general was having a resurgence.

  • @AFMountaineer2000
    @AFMountaineer2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "That's not going to work for me brother" is what was heard whenever Hogan was asked to look at the lights.

  • @Paradiselost316
    @Paradiselost316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    He was a complete backstabber and a liar if it benefitted and protected his spot . The ones who say they had no problem working with Hogan were the ones who he didn’t see as a threat to his spot. Eg I think Kamala said he had no problem working with him, probably for this reason. I’ve never heard stories about him being overly aggressive, but just backstabbing.

  • @BillOLDbergSucks
    @BillOLDbergSucks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hogan always going into business for himself not what's good for the company. That's one of the biggest reasons WCW isn't around today among other things.

  • @michaelhenry1423
    @michaelhenry1423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    He would have been great casting as Bane. He would have crushed it.

    • @charliesmith7901
      @charliesmith7901 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Michael Henry i think he was in one of the older batman movies

    • @woogie88888
      @woogie88888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@charliesmith7901 Jeep Swenson played bane in one of the movies. but yes vader had the look for bane but I don't know if he could do the lines right.

    • @manuginobilisbaldspot424
      @manuginobilisbaldspot424 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Juggernaut.

    • @robertt9342
      @robertt9342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wow, just wow. He would have been terrible casting as bane or juggernaut. Do people really hate those characters that much?

    • @faz6877
      @faz6877 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vader is a monster, but not jacked like Bane.

  • @tonesdad0408
    @tonesdad0408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Vader is totally right.

    • @scottbreon9448
      @scottbreon9448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Damien Jones No, if your mother wasn't stupid, she would have had an abortion

    • @joshkennedy2868
      @joshkennedy2868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Damien Jones I have been a Hulkamaniac for 30 years. Vader was right. He should have won the first match. The AWA and WWF way wasn't gonna work in WCW. In WCW business was best when the baby face was chasing a heel for the title

    • @paystyles5429
      @paystyles5429 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damien Jones say it to his face
      Rip Vader

  • @melioda9554
    @melioda9554 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Vader Time snap back is sick! RIP to the big man!

  • @billymimnaugh3998
    @billymimnaugh3998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When Hogan jumped up after Vader’s power bomb that was the last time I ever watched WCW .I thought it was so stupid .They Killed the Vader mystique .I went back to watching Vader tapes from Japan ..

  • @Wide_leaf_indica710
    @Wide_leaf_indica710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never would have thought of Vader as such a company man.

  • @phildicks4721
    @phildicks4721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hogan and his f**king ego not only pissed over Vader, but he pissed over every wrestler who took Vader's powerbomb...and SOLD IT! At that precise moment Vader was DOA in WCW.

  • @FingerBreakerWu
    @FingerBreakerWu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Vader: At least do what's best for the company...
    Hogan: Let me reintroduce myself, brother...

  • @markperry2827
    @markperry2827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The thing is Hogan got his in the end. Watch his HoF induction where everyone shat on him and he was mad like a child. Ultimate classic. Terry went against the clique and he got the horns. When he no longer had Bischoff protecting him all the real feelings came out.

    • @josepharmstrong4639
      @josepharmstrong4639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When was this? I’ve never seen the video.

    • @robertgibbs7513
      @robertgibbs7513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I would like to see that

    • @shoeplayisbad1
      @shoeplayisbad1 ปีที่แล้ว

      His hof induction the fans wouldn't stop cheering snd he's still the biggest name there is

  • @jasond.7346
    @jasond.7346 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love the Hogan clown hair in the thumbnail!🤣🤣🤣

  • @robinsl27
    @robinsl27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    As someone that lived through that time period and was 10 at the time and was a hulkamaniac this got really boring, real quick.

    • @FingerBreakerWu
      @FingerBreakerWu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was CHEERING when Andre the Giant beat him for the title.

    • @tommygunn1671
      @tommygunn1671 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What u mean this. The interview or Hogan politicking

    • @michaele.francis
      @michaele.francis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fans were cheering loudly when Hogan was eliminated by Sid Justice in the 1992 Royal Rumble.

  • @bobbybutler6501
    @bobbybutler6501 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When Vader was in WCW one of the boys crapped in Vader’s bag. Still to this day nobody talks about it

  • @IA78__
    @IA78__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Loved wrestling during these times being a kid. Who knew the backstage drama there was like the workplace drama I would end up having too as an adult.

  • @mringram
    @mringram 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Legendary figure in wrestling

    • @arpegio88
      @arpegio88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...I'd say He was a class act in the later years of his life after wrestling.

    • @lossiiburns
      @lossiiburns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vader was a beast

  • @stevep4574
    @stevep4574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Politics of wrestling, just like where I work.

  • @mattcroy1885
    @mattcroy1885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vader v baby face sting is an early memory for me.

  • @michaelfox933
    @michaelfox933 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I dont know much at all about how Vader was when he was in Asai! But I bet with the crazy helmet gear for his entrance...and the way he played his character so well....PURE LEGEND!

  • @gunnerboyd
    @gunnerboyd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ‘That’s not gonna work for me, Brother’.

  • @mr.timebombman2230
    @mr.timebombman2230 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the craziest things I've seen is when Vaders eyeball popped out during a match, and he put it back in.

  • @1985banks1
    @1985banks1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always loved Vader, for a big guy he moved like a much smaller guy. And he always had good energy.

  • @crazyjim9380
    @crazyjim9380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The way he worked with Sting in 1992-93 was a classic example of a strong way to book a big man. They would have Sting lose a few but always get that important win that kept him in it.
    The Hogan thing was backwards from jump because Hulk was hesitant about working with Leon. Putting him in a title match against Ed Leslie at Starcadde was an awful idea. From a booking standpoint, Beefcake/Butcher hadn't even really worked any big matches in WCW. He was just Hogan's corner man and there was no reason to believe he was going to go over. They overestimated how much people would care about the betrayal. If anything they should have had his double cross cost him the belt to Vader at Starcadde. Do their match at Super Brawl with them eventually going back to a long run with Vader that would see Hulk finally beat him in the summer.

  • @donmajestic5258
    @donmajestic5258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's not gonna work for me, brother.

  • @mexiwolf009
    @mexiwolf009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “That don’t work for me, Brother”.

  • @phillipstankey8881
    @phillipstankey8881 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Shoot, Vader, Shoot!!" was a popular meme on rec sport pro wrestling (RSPW) on usenet back in the olden days of 1995

    • @DAKINS896
      @DAKINS896 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who? (NN)

    • @DAKINS896
      @DAKINS896 ปีที่แล้ว

      Memories man lol. remember Bra DD Shaw

  • @FnRenner
    @FnRenner 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Vader was the man. R.I.P. Big V

  • @DreamMachineX
    @DreamMachineX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I completely agree with Big Van Vader. He was the top dog in the early 90s and should have beat hogan to have another run with the title. Same thing in WWF. Vader should have gone over on Shawn Michaels. He legit made people feel fear and was awesome to watch.

    • @bryansiebenmorgen4432
      @bryansiebenmorgen4432 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vader was actually booked to win the WWF Championship at Summerslam '96, with HBK winning the belt back at Survivor Series. But HBK politics prevented that from happening. Thus going backwards and screwing Vader out of his mega push. Vader was then booked to win the IC title in '97, but his incident in Kuwait killed his last chance at any push he was considered for. He became a jobber to the stars soon after.

  • @jamieperry6074
    @jamieperry6074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Always liked Vader

  • @ItsTimeforNostalgia
    @ItsTimeforNostalgia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hogan should have but Vader over and Shawn should have put Vader over at Summerslam 96! He deserved the title and it would have been a game changer!

  • @Dakatari
    @Dakatari 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Rest In Peace Leon White aka Big Van Vader. It's not unusual that the company went with who they thought would draw more money which was Hogan at the time whatever opinion we may have of him he is the biggest name to ever come out of wrestling

  • @TheRoberino2001
    @TheRoberino2001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got the 1k like. Been waiting for this day on ANY video for a LONG time. Great interview you unearthed, not surprised about the content though unfortunately. RIP Leon White.

  • @zackvanhalen
    @zackvanhalen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    He says at the beginning that Ric Flair double crossed him as well.

    • @mikebowermaster4250
      @mikebowermaster4250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Flair or sting beating Vader is ridiculous.

    • @mikebowermaster4250
      @mikebowermaster4250 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why is it that businesses are dog eat dog, and wrestling is supposed to be sugar and sunshine? It's everyone for themselves!

    • @juvestyles
      @juvestyles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mikebowermaster4250 true at that time Big V was the Man.

    • @Lord_Bibulous
      @Lord_Bibulous 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@mikebowermaster4250 Two different scenarios. Pro wrestling is business where people need to cooperate and work with each other in order to succeed. To varying degrees of course. But take a guy like Vader for example: 400 lbs. Hogan nor anybody else is slamming that guy if he doesn't allow it. A match could go sideways real quick if one of the participants doesn't want to play ball. To act selfish and only think of what's good for your character is just douchey in a business where you depend on other people to look good.

    • @puckutubesux7356
      @puckutubesux7356 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mikebowermaster4250 What's ridiculous? You want him to go undefeated?

  • @davidderifield3820
    @davidderifield3820 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Leon was a class act, R.I.P Big van vader.

  • @soulofanerd9364
    @soulofanerd9364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Vader's perspective makes a helluva lot of sense. Hogan and his WWE Hulkamania style booking coming into WCW was nauseating ESPECIALLY when he books Brutus FREAKING BEEFCAKE for a STARRCADE OPPONENT 🤮🤮🤮

    • @DAKINS896
      @DAKINS896 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brutus didn't belong on a clash of the champions main event lol

    • @satiricalzero
      @satiricalzero 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DAKINS896 Brutus didn't belong on a Saturday Night main event.

  • @solidsnake4214
    @solidsnake4214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “That doesn’t work for me brother”

  • @leonpennings7596
    @leonpennings7596 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Ahh yes, the Butcher was a LEGIT contender for a world title...🤔😂

    • @mikeperry7335
      @mikeperry7335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      headlined a fucking starrcade lol

    • @TheRealDTLew
      @TheRealDTLew 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Terrible

    • @bryansiebenmorgen4432
      @bryansiebenmorgen4432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They should've never have brought Beefcake into WCW. Waste of time and money.

  • @msq3762
    @msq3762 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I couldn't help but think about Undertaker and Khali during this interview. Undertaker was practically squashed by Khali in their first ever bout. Undertaker agreed to be squashed by this stiff lamppost; he's such a giver! That's why he'll always tower over Hogan...

  • @Am0ment0fB
    @Am0ment0fB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think more wrestlers need to be wearing hats with their gimmick on it.

    • @Am0ment0fB
      @Am0ment0fB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That hat did look a tad small on Vader though. Ha. Especially, that brim. Ha.

  • @2HitWonder
    @2HitWonder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hogan did this to everyone...and yet their is a certain percentage of hulkamaniacs that still deny it all.

  • @83aber1
    @83aber1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    "Someone betrayed me? Welcome to the Business! "

  • @mmmCrunchy
    @mmmCrunchy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I got to see Vader drop the title to Flair at Starrcade '93 when I was 8. Incredible event. Glad I got to see this guy perform.

    • @ladistar
      @ladistar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t know why they did that, flair wasn’t a main event guy and couldn’t draw like Vader at that point in his career

    • @mmmCrunchy
      @mmmCrunchy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ladistar That's fair. Just a month or so before that I went to another WCW event where Flair cheated to beat Rick Rude, only to move on to a title shot with Vader. That event did make me a huge Flair fan though.

    • @zacoman2225
      @zacoman2225 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ladistar Are you kidding? Flair was one of the biggest draws in the company, and Staircase '93 was in his hometown, makes perfect sense to me. Plus it was a great match.

    • @sourcecode16
      @sourcecode16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zacoman2225 Staircase 93 lmao

    • @zacoman2225
      @zacoman2225 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sourcecode16 Lol damn autocorrect 😂

  • @nickc4518
    @nickc4518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Comes across as an absolutely top guy. Gone too soon.

  • @williamschaeffer409
    @williamschaeffer409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good interview

  • @bullfranthrow
    @bullfranthrow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    R.I.P Big Van Vader

  • @jonathanhensley6141
    @jonathanhensley6141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was never a Hogan fan and hulkamania bored me as well. Growing up I wanted to watch wrestling no a show centered around Hogan. I always loved watching vader wrestle especially in Japan. He wrestled like a luchador in Japan.

  • @brianjoachim7044
    @brianjoachim7044 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Vader I like in WCW and wwf

  • @livewire2474
    @livewire2474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a child growing up hogan was my hero... as an adult with children of my own now,, wrestling has no family wholesome values these days. I miss the 80's

    • @royalzak2670
      @royalzak2670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      classic case of nostalgia. 80s wrestling was a drug fuelled toxic environment filled with violent meat heads. the business is far more professional today.

    • @thebadaids
      @thebadaids 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@royalzak2670 And never been worse. Bring back the drugs and meatheads.

    • @LoveProWrestling
      @LoveProWrestling 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you're looking for family values in pro wrestling...I cant think of any time in wrestling where you could actually point any out. Hogan told people to eat vitamins I guess that's good. Angle told people to drink milk? That's about it man.

    • @inevitableexpertise1016
      @inevitableexpertise1016 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveProWrestling CM Punk told people to be straight edge 🤣😂

  • @johannbarker11
    @johannbarker11 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vader was a totally perfect Monster Heel. Huge, Fast, Powerful, Agile too and just destructive. He played his part so well that fans, myself included, looked forward to him just destroying opponents. Sting's matches with Vader were so well put together with them convincingly trading wins and losses. I could never believe Flair or Hogan going over Vader especially in the way they did.

  • @5280mminnick
    @5280mminnick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man Vader is right 100% of the way man. Who knew Leon had the business sense he did. Prichard has always said he loved Leon but man he was a little stubborn when it came to a lot of stuff. I think it was because of all the shit he put up with in WCW.

  • @tomjones2348
    @tomjones2348 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's fortunate for Hogan (and the late great Paul Orndorff) that Vader has self control.

  • @rustybalzac9957
    @rustybalzac9957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This monster heel should have had the book. He knew the psychology, the business, and could have put together some amazing shows.

  • @jensofdenmark
    @jensofdenmark 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like how Vader calls The Coke'ster Terry :-)

  • @markkhardaway2017
    @markkhardaway2017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of my favorite heels RIP

  • @greygamer6220
    @greygamer6220 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vader is one tough son of a bitch. I still remember seeing him get his eyeball popped out of socket, putting it back in and finished the match! 😳

  • @jrupp8853
    @jrupp8853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's not going to work for me, brother!"

  • @jdizzlefoshizzlealldizzle
    @jdizzlefoshizzlealldizzle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way that live crowds treat Hogan now is Karma.

  • @Stoneman180190
    @Stoneman180190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jim Cornette was right about Vader, for a big guy he’s quite a big softie.

  • @briancenti5423
    @briancenti5423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    IRL. Vader would have destroyed hogan.

  • @edwardclement102
    @edwardclement102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hogan won the title from Ric, Ric won at the Clash, Hogan won in the cage a retirement match, at Starcade Hogan vs the Butcher should have had Arn Anderson involved to make it better maybe a three way or 3 different matches set up, it was hard to follow Ric vs Hulk.AA would have put fire into the match set up.

    • @DAKINS896
      @DAKINS896 ปีที่แล้ว

      They didn't have three way matches in WCW until 95, WWE didnt start until 97

  • @DarkLordofTheSith69
    @DarkLordofTheSith69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That doesn't work for me brother-Hulk Hogan quote before every ppv

  • @jonlavezza2364
    @jonlavezza2364 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I NEED that Vader Time hat thanks

  • @juannegrette605
    @juannegrette605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Vader was the real power house of wrestling and WWE screwed Vader of wrestling and going for WWE title shot and Vince McMahon go worried and scared so he BS Vader so glad Vader was WCW R.I.P. you where taken too soon Vader always remembered WCW BADASS wrestler

  • @MrThejoker1989
    @MrThejoker1989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Vader powerbombs Hulk Hogan*
    Hogan gets up, does a backflip, snaps the guy's neck and saves the day

  • @coreyfellows9420
    @coreyfellows9420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    HEY VADAR!!!....if you ever see this I want to tell you that you are a bad ass and I was legit scared when my favorites had to wrestle you cause you was so dam scary and tough.

  • @gaz9556
    @gaz9556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Vader needed to give hogan a receipt for that bs, forget being professional

  • @at0micwerew0lf
    @at0micwerew0lf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if Vader's eye would periodically pop out?

  • @ladistar
    @ladistar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vader’s not gonna work for me brother

  • @BlankoMitzi
    @BlankoMitzi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Vader wrestled the rock for the intercontinental title in the wwf, stiff as hell. Also Vader is a legend.

    • @bryansiebenmorgen4432
      @bryansiebenmorgen4432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Original plans actually called for Vader to win the IC title in '97, but the whole Kuwait incident destroyed that last chance he had of getting over. He became a jobber to the stars soon after the incident.

    • @NoneofYabiz-rx3zi
      @NoneofYabiz-rx3zi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To be fair, his style rubbed some of the top stars the wrong way.
      Shawn didn't want to work with him, and Bret had the choice between Vader and the Patriot. Well, Bret chose the Patriot.
      It's unfair to just lay all the blame on WWF/Vince when Vader's stiff style didn't really resonate with some of the main eventers