Vader - My Incident with Shawn Michaels at WWF SummerSlam 1996
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- Vader discusses the time Shawn Michaels started yelling at him mid-match at SummerSlam 1996 and the incident that caused it. Full shoot ➤ TitleMatchNetwo...
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If you watch closely during that WWF SummerSlam 1996 main event between Vader and Shawn Michaels, Shawn becomes visibly angry and starts yelling at Vader! It was pretty obvious to fans especially since the audio picked up most of what Shawn was saying. Is this the moment that derailed Vader in WWF?
Also hear why Vader says the Gorilla Monsoon angle was the hottest thing in wrestling but was horribly mismanaged.
This Vader shoot interview was conducted in 1998.
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I used to work with Leon’s cousin and had planned to attend an In Your House PPV in Fresno in July 1998. When she found out that we were getting tickets that weekend she asked me to hold off until after the weekend. When I came to work Monday, she informs me that she had spoken to Vader over the weekend and that tickets would be awaiting us at the Will Call window. We arrived in Fresno (2 hours away) the afternoon of the show and, sure enough, he had reserved 8 tickets for me and the group of friends I had brought over there (in 2 carloads). The tickets were in a roped off section around the camera well for the main camera that shoots the ring...probably 100 seats roped off in a sold out arena and only my group of 8 and maybe 5-6 others in the section. Needless to say, we kicked our feet up and had an absolute blast.
Thank you the the great day and fantastic memories Leon...I’ll always appreciate that kind gesture.
R.I.P. Leon White aka Big Van Vader
Damn, what a great guy.
Great story
Where are you from man? I'm from Fresno also, we knew a guy that knew vader and said similar stories. Nicest guy you could meet
Fully Loaded 1998?
Trevor Phillips That PPV was like the only one the WWE had in Buffalo.
Making Vader as a jobber is total disrespect for a man like that
It always seems like the pretty boys always (or at least, at times), got over, simply because of their "good looks", while hard-working wrestlers like Vader got held down. Vader coulda ripped Shawn Michaels in half, if he'd of wanted to! Easily!
Ronald Shank..... yeah, Shawn Michaels was a “pretty boy,” but make no mistake.... he’s arguably the best in ring worker ever! That being said.... yeah... he was a politician like Hogan and a major douche behind the scenes!
Vader could have been used better but he was never a jobber. He was an upper midcarder who had feuds with almost every top star during his time in WWE.
@@ronaldshank7589 Apart of that he was one the best performers of all time. Might have something to do with it.
Did some "pretty boy" steal your girlfriend?
@@Baastilein31 so was Vader
Jim Cornette was right about Vader, he’s a gentle giant behind the scenes.
I attended his last match at WrestleJam I believe that was around 4 years ago? Got a picture and autograph with Vader. Extremely nice guy. Still huge/so damn strong and he got the win. Just so happy I was able to record the whole thing on my phone and upload it here for everyone to enjoy. No gimmicks, no money or shirts or whatever. Just to say thank you and preserve the match for free for everyone. Steamboat & Mr. Wonderful where hanging out with him there as well. Vader was also very nice to me on twitter answering a question on how Vader learned how to do something in the ring. I think it was his moonsault. I'll never ever forget those moments and be greatfull forever for them. Thank you so much Mr. Vader.
@@TeamRocketHQR I saw Steamboat on a plane a few years ago and was the only person that knew who he was! I just walked by on the way to my seat and told him he greatly enriched my childhood and asked if I could shake his hand and he said yeah and seemed really surprised I knew who he was. He was still ripped too!
I remember him on the show Boy meets world and he's one reason I got into wrestling lol
I'm drunk
Not only gentle, but Tough as nails.
The man's eye popped out of his socket during a match and just pops it right back in
I met Vader about 10 years ago at a wrestling convention here in CA. Hell of a nice guy!
Nobody ever denied that.
He’s from Compton
I met him 1997 signing autograph. I was little intimated. And he was supercool easy to talk to. Shook my hand sign my photo.👍👊
No one ever said anyone did deny it
@@rogerpedrosa1854 yeah same here. Guy was very talkative and friendly. Don't ever meet Virgil; guy is a prick.
This guy was one of the best Big Men ever, it’s a shame the WWE did not get behind him he would have made a Great heel Monster Champ like he was in WCW
All because Shawn was a crybaby.
This man gave (Fake) Big Daddy Cool DIESEL a clothesline splash and Diesel felt on the ground at the Royal Rumble 1997. There is where I saw the raw power of Vader
I’m still pissed that wwe knew about his congestive heart failure and didn’t put him in the hall of fame when he was alive. Such shame!
@@Wrestlelesson so, Kane then? LOL
I think in late 96 or early 97 he should have went back to wcw to feud with nwo alongside the four horsemen and luger instead of staying in wwf at the time it would have made better storylines
What a humble guy for being such a beast! Rip Van
So many wrestlers have died...but Vince. Hmm
To me he actually sounds like an ass kisser. Both Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart were pissed at Vader for his stiffness in the ring , yet he defends Shawn Michaels who acted very unprofessionally in the ring and threatened to have him fired, and shits on Bret Hart who was the most professional guy out there.
@@theRussianJiu instigator and a instagangster... Think of all the athletes that got hurt trying to impress a man who has to much MONEY!?!?!?!!!!.
Vince ruined and ruins lives daily. It's not entertainment if it's not a profit.
Vincent lives well now but he will crumble slowly. He's like a grandfather... The one you don't want to waste time saying hello only because you know he wouldn't care nor care to remember.
Karma should be an athlete that takes out the Undertaker... Kick the legs from underneath Vince s quads
Rambler 84, preach it 💯
Shawn “need to find my smile again” Michaels sounds like he used to be a grade A jerk.
Vader was wasted talent in WWE/WWF.
Rest In Peace Big Van Vader.
Shawn never talked shit with Bret because he knew Bret would beat the fuck outta him irl. Vader was to nice.
@@pinkyizthebrain2397 he also knew for Brett it wasn't just his job. It was his lifestyle and his whole family's life.
He is, I met him at a planet fitness in San Antonio, He actually looked bigger on tv.
that was over 20 years dude. get over it.
Shawn was a prick back in the days cause he knew he was untouchable
Once again we hear another story about how such a disrespectful wrestler Shawn Michaels was at least he even admits he once was a jerk.. Rest In Peace Leon White aka Big Van Vader
@Joker Jacka He wasn't that young though when he was at the height of his dickness lol...he was in his 30's
@@acidmack1041 30 ain't old, for fucks sake. That's when you're in your prime.
Joshua Haynes ok feather boy
Shawn Michaels was and still is to this day the Prick of Pricks. I have never ever come close to even liking him.
Walter a lot of people feel that way
I remember when a fan jumped in the ring and Vader basically protected the guy from getting his ass kicked by the other wrestlers by sitting on him.
Bro, that was Steve Blackman and it was an angle...
@@tylerxxyz8621 I don't remember Steve Blackman much but I do recall as a kid seeing a very large Vader laying on top of some random who got in the ring.
Arbeit Bear It was Blackman. It was part of an angle to debut him.
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There you go. This looks certainly like what you're remembering.
so funny that you remember the kayfabe like it was real :) the more i get older, the more i learned that the memory cannot be trusted one bit.
I’ve heard about the summerslam incident many times about the spot where Shawn changes his elbow drop in mid air and lands on his feet and screams at Vader and kicks him in the head. It speaks volumes to the professionalism of Vader that night. He could’ve and should’ve jumped up off mat and just broke Shawn in half in front of everyone, just broke character, disregarded the plans and hurt him for real in front of all those people. Shawn would’ve deserved it. Job or not Vader should’ve messed him up.
Yeah Vader should have beat his fucking ass
If he’d done that Vince would’ve sent the Harris boys or even taker down there and Vader would’ve wished he wasn’t born. There’s a reason why guys don’t go into business for themselves
@@bodhi8297 I heard Vader was a tough son of a bitch and strong as fuck
@@scottwinslow8772 he was. And Taker at that time wasn't exactly BFFs with Shawn. He probably would have taken Vader's side!
@@bodhi8297 calm down dummy.
that vader time hat is hard af
is it ever!!
I found one on Etsy a year or so ago. Worth a look if you want one for the collection.
Imagine being a young wrestling fan. Changing the channel to ABC for their tgif tv show lineup. Then boy meets world comes on and there he is making it Vader Time. It was the best of both worlds as a kid growing up. Great man great wrestler period.
I saw one of those early house shows live against Michaels. It was a fairly balanced match and when you could sense the Michaels finish, Vader countered and crushes micheals with a stiff 2nd rope Vader bomb splash and cleanly pinned Micheals. The crowd reaction was huge for Vader and Micheals probably figured that cant continue and went on to ruin him.
keith lee does it and more research
Michaels was on top of the game during that time
“I’m not gonna name any names” “he was a huge star I faced at the Nassau coliseum”
Doing a quick google search and the only two guys that he faced at the Nassau Coliseum in the WWF were Shawn Michaels and The Undertaker. I have a hard time seeing the Undertaker bitching about him being stiff so I'm guessing the person was Shawn.
Cant fuck with the kliq. But in saying that shawn was very small & had to protect himself.
@@NZ_Man Michaels needed to man up and quit crying. This isnt ballet.
NZ Man he shouldn’t wrestle then..
@@mattthomas1442 I agree.
The fact that this man was never wwf champion was criminal! Yet they put the belt on any puppet these days 🙄 WWE is dead, a company that thrives on money now
No shit a company that thrives on money , what a schocker ! 🙄
WWE is still making billions tho
Are they suppose to thrive on oxygen
I agree dude, wrestling was way better in the late 80s/early 90's. At that point WWF was still putting on shows in arenas that loaned themselves out for free and wrestlers weren't getting paid exorbitant amounts of money to "perform". Back then they were just regular working men who loved to test themselves in legitimate athletic contest. Nothing like the "puppets" of today. No, these men were reflective of a progressive moment in U.S history. One that spat in the face classism and created a melting pot for people of all walks of life to test their metal in the squared circle.
Nowhere else could you see such a clear picture of America represented through the face of its workers. With professions ranging from garbage men to circus clowns, business moguls to repossession officers, dentists to professional sportsman and U.S federal government employees a nation was united!
Back then wrestling still had its integrity and people didn't just create companies in hopes of making money.
Yes he was
He was never WWF champion? What a travesty......
Vader was my favorite wrestler and was such an
Athlete specially for Big Man. I usually don't say negative things but, Shawn Michaels always struck me as a whiny pussy. Just my opinion.
Yours and almost everyone who's worked with or around him. Opinion, that is. lol
He was Vince's Joy Boy. Passed around to Pay Pat and played tag.
Honestly, nothing like I expected. He's probably one of the most articulate wrestlers I've heard do a shoot.
People talk about him like he was a high functioning retard but he seems fairly intelligent here.
Rick steiner is a good talker too.
He had a college degree. Big Van Vader was just a creation for the ring.
Should have been WWF Champion. Not that he needed it to be remembered as the best big man in the business. R.I.P
It would have validated him more had he won it.
Andre
I'm really showing my age here but I remember when Big Van Vader was on the 90s show: Boy Meets World!!
He was working on his new move called the vadersault
I remember when I saw him in n the show. Awesome.
Yep, he was big Frankie's dad on Boy Meets World 😂 (I'm 32 now, bro)
@@EnigmaticAnamoly I'm 36 😂 and that was a great episode
I Heard Boy Meets World Put A Blemish On Vader Amazing Career.
I despise Shawn Michaels, Vader should have beat his ass outside of the Ring.
Shawn is the greatest ever. Guy was electric in his prime
It's time it's time it's Vader time time time
Yeah his music and sid vicious were great.
Just reading that I could hear the crowd going WILD!!!!
Shit was about to go down once you heard that!!
In my heart, it'll ALWAYS be Vader Time! Rest In Peace, Big Van Vader!
You forgot to say time one last time for a total of four. The song had four at the end not three
Yeah….look what they did with Sting, same thing they did with Vader.. get them there and then trash them. Because they weren't Vince's boys or click. What crap ! smh bs
The fact that shawn michales kicked vader in the face, but he dind't hurt michaels( he easily could) shows how professional he is.
Even as a heel Big Van Vader was a favorite. When he came out wearing that mask with the smokes coming out ... I thought that was the most baddest and bad ass shit I've seen from a wrestling character. IT'S VADER TIME!!
That Vader/Gorilla Monsoon thing was as good as Austin Stunning McMahon for the first time, IMO. The fact that it’s not more fondly remembered is criminal.
You can tell from his demeanor that he wasn't one to play politics, and it hurt him when he crossed paths with guys like Hogan and HBK, who cared more about their own position than the business.
Even Hogan didn't bury Vader.. Shawn Michaels did.. But Hogan showed Shawn who was the big dog in 2005.. All that sucking up to Vince Shawn did Hogan was still the man Vince Chose.. Serves his ass right..
@@kenrickeason dude, he no sold Vader's finish.
@@kenrickeason Hogan didn't bury Vader, but he did refuse to put him over, which killed his momentum. Guys like Sting and The Rock proved that you can lose some big matches and still be a top star if you're talented enough, but insecure types think they have to win all the time.
GREAT POINT
@@mr.wright9867 but that wasn't a burial, especially how Hogan was booked.. The Non Drawing Kid did the wrestling equivalent of "going to corporate"
Shawn Michaels was VERY MUCH drinking his own Kool-aid at that point in time, all the way til that Undertaker back bump shut him down for years.
It was a good thing he got that back injury. Otherwise people like The Rock, Mankind, Kane, and other attitude era stars would NOT have been
@@hjq0023 plus it was also good due to shawn then finding himself, becoming a born again Christian and learning the error of his ways
@@hjq0023 His fake back injury
@@9614cp now that I come to think about it. There would have been no Mr Mcmahon and Austin fued if Shawn wasn't injured because Austin would have been feuding with HBK. Also the real reason Mr Mcmahon was feuding with Austin was because he had nobody at Austin's level in 1998
@@hjq0023 The McMahon vs Austin thing was already going to happen because it was already being established apart from the DX storyline.
When I was 15 years old I saw Vader vs Shawn as the main event of a house show in 1996. I remember it actually being a decent match. Both guys could work and they seemed to get along fine in the ring. No botched moves, etc. Hard to tell if Vader was stiff or Shawn was just selling his moves well especially being teenage mark at the time
I remember him popping up on that show boy meets world when I was younger that was pretty wild
Nick Eubanks TGIF
Yes
I lost my shit when I realized Franky the Enforcer was his son.
Vader was talking about the Japanese art of strong style wrestling. Vader was a fucking legend.
WCW Big Van Vader is what Braun Stroman should have been for WWE
Facts
The more I hear Jim Ross's name brought up by actual wrestlers the more respect I lose for him. You can clearly tell that he was an important part of the decision making in the WWF but any time you see him in an interview talking about bad decisions he defaults to "I had no power in the WWE. I'm not as big as people claim."
Jim Ross comes off arrogant in his podcast. I think he had power up until Vince started making fun of his face
You’re misunderstood about Jim Ross. He was a head of talent relations and had a keen eye for talent and understood the professional wrestling business to the core. With that much power and being close to McMahon, logic would dictate that mistakes would be made and not everything he would do would be agreeable.
Yeah, Ross is overrated and likes the smell of his own farts. His commentating is horrible these days but AEW still insists on putting him out there every week.
CM Punk was right all Jim Ross knows was Stone Cold, Stone Cold, Stone Cold.
@@QuantumGamingUploadssmh all CM Punk know is being a hypocrite.
Brett Hart said Vader wasn't careful in the ring and would hurt him whereas yokunzuna was more careful
Yoko looked fake.
@@calebjanus2000😆😆😆
The Kliq needed to realize it was Vader Time
Vader was also used to make kane look more of a unbeatable monster.
I watched Vader as a kid and he was a scary human being. But for Leon White he was the sweetest individual I believe God ever created. My mother and Leon's ex-wife Grace we're good friends and went to College together and worked together for many years. My childish brain could not wrap my mind around the fact that this huge monster in the ring is the same man that I interacted with many times. The true meaning of a gentle giant!
Vader made Sting & others look good.
Big Van Vader will always be one of my favorites. His old wcw matches with Flair and Hogan were brilliant.
I remember this guy on "Boy Meets World" and was really a big fan as a fat kid. Vader was inspiring and strong but also obviously enjoyed starch and that resonated with me. What a cool dude and skilled wrestler.
Wow, Vader sounds so gentle and kind. Comes across as a very nice man.
Vader was so humble. I really wish that he had not been so misused in WWE.
Would have been a Huge asset to ECW in 99! Only if Paul would have had the money
OMG Vader would have killed Tommy Dreamer 🤣
Stiff as Vader was ECW would of been a perfect fit... People forget WWF water down guys so if you thinking about going there with the same character you were somewhere else, you might as well get ready to refresh your mind of everything you once knew cause you is going to be watered or be something else..
@@kenrickeason Imagine if WWF signed John Zandig the Philly Brawler 🤣🤣🤣
Would've been cool but I'm glad he went back to Japan and almost completely rejuvenated himself working with the likes of Misawa and Kobashi. That was the style that probably suited him best.
R.I.P. Vader, so happy I got to mark out seeing you come back on Raw. You were awesome
Summerslam 96 not 95
"Move" and kicked him in the Head 🤦🏿♂️
Vader is a better man then I am I would have punched Shawn right in the chest.
One of my favourite heels. Best heel in WCW
Tbh the business seems like a lot of insecure guys that want other talent to be insecure. I get it it’s about being the guy and having control but a lot of stories I hear are just unnecessary and lame. I believe now a lot of guys changed for the better of course but the obstacles a lot of these guys had to deal with.. geez
Seriously that’s the truth. I’ve been on a rabbit hole of old wrestling shoot videos and most of the confrontations they seemed to have were over insecurities and silly machismo shit.
I understand that too but you have to remember the wrestling business is or was a dog eat dog world. There was only room for 1 guy at the top and the fans can turn on you or you can be replaced with another guy in an instant. Many wrestlers have been at the top but are then replaced by a younger and talented guy and they never quite reach that height again. To them they see these guys as a threat to their careers and the money they are making. It’s very sad but it’s the truth and that’s why a lot of the guys are insecure.
Everyone thinks that they are or were the best. Most don’t have the IT factor. Most are very good but not great.
Vader was great especially against Cactus Jack.
Vader was great.
You don't have a clue what the 'it' factor is or who's got it. The way the WWE is constructed, the 'it' factor isn't something anybody is allowed to have unless it's given to them. It seems like most of them don't get to create their own character or decide much of anything about their own careers except whether to show up and say 'yes sir' or not.
Most are good because other ppl made em look that way
And your point is??? I sure hope it isn't to say this applies to Vader because he ABSOLUTELY HAD "IT".
Largest human being I’ve ever seen in my life & I’ve been bodybuilding/powerlifting for 30 years. Powerhouse gym in garden city Michigan.92 or early 93. He was doing the program with Davey Boy for WCW. I’ll never forget him.
I like how he calls hurting people a "style" of work 👌
"tons of guys constantly told me I was too stiff. So obviously, it was them who was wrong"
I was at that SummerSlam match in Cleveland. I was 13 years old at the time.
Well spoken.
WWE mishandled Vader's career, Booker T, Razor Ramon, Rob Van Dam.
And ron Simmons
Got this interview on VHS yrs ago. Good interview
This makes you appreciate guys like Sting and Ron Simmons more. They didn't complain about working with Vader.
Same goes for Cactus Jack. Hell, he rode with Vader when WCW toured back in the day!
EXACTLY! Neither did Barry Windham, Ricky Steamboat, The Steiners, Davey Boy or even Ric Flair who definitely admitted Vader put some heavy hands on him at Starrcade 93. I've never even heard Nikita Koloff who had a neck disc injury from a shot from Vader even complain.
Vader was notorious for being stiff in the ring. Most guys didn't want to work with him. Also his gloves were rumored to smell horribly. When I was a kid I can tell he was more brutal than the others, like the modern day Brock Lesnar
His gloves looked like they smelled horrible
instead of using the computer they put sticky notes on it lol.
MOVE!!! *stomp MOOOOOVEEEE *stomp
Lmaoo
Vader was one of the best big men in wrestling R.I.P
Leon ”Baby Bull” White. The first time I saw him on TV in the AWA, I was blown away. The brother could move. Very agile. RIP.
Man those were days! Loved AWA on ESPN what a time to be alive. RIP Bam Bam
Lol baby bull it funny his a Taurus 🐂
I wonder how many careers HBK N THE CLICK ruined just because of their egos
Many.
Theres a top 10 list of it.
Vader Bret Bulldog Owen Booker T RVD Shamrock come into mind but I'm probably missing a lot more.
Shawn and his click fuck bodies tried to ruin Rock's carrier too but failed and I'm sure if he didn't broke his back and Taker waiting to beat his ass after he went backstage after mania X8 he would've beat Stone Cold too.
@@MrBeard17 where
I mean there’s a reason you don’t remember anyone from that time period other then the kliq and Taker...it’s a dog eat dog world in that profession and to be remembered as the greatest which Shawn is mostly viewed as...he had to do what he to do and if that means killing off characters cause they couldn’t hold there weight then so be it lol
WWE, mainly Vince McMahon, has always shown favoritism throughout the years.
And you wouldn't for your best wrestler?
Leon was a class act. Gentle giant of a man
"letting my style flow" = beating up his opponents in the ring. That shows zero respect to one's opponent in professional wrestling.
Rest in Peace Big Van Vader :-(
It´s Vader TIME
I loved this dude. 10 Shawn Michael's don't equal one Vader
How are the Bella's in HOF but Vader isn't??? WTF Vince??
Because they look better in hotpants.
@@deathshead357 You have never seen Vader in hotpants!
@@MarkJackson-wc2xh 🤣🤣
@@MarkJackson-wc2xh Thanks a lot man. Now I'm gonna have nightmares.
Let’s not forget how ridiculously and uncharacteristically stiff Shawn was being RIGHT at the beginning of this match too. Obviously, Vader would be like “okay, I see you” so, he missed a spot. Correct it in 30 seconds like a god damn professional
If what I'm seeing and hearing is true in the comments, then you just book him differently. Sounds like that may have been the plan with the 2 time champion promises according to Leon / Vader. It's hard to say why now, but when I see Big Kali years later as the champ I wonder why the hell Vader wasn't. Even as a transitional champ.
Wat means
He supposed to been a transitional Champion dropping the title to Sid Justice.. but plans didn't fall through..
Ppl payed to see Vader beat Shaun up; because he cried about it to vince the Vader character got squashed and ppl switched off because they knew that it was garbage, they should’ve booked him as the monster that he was known as.
Vader vs Shaun should only have been a Vader win with Shaun being crushed!
same thing with Goldberg. WWE is just different.
It may have taught him some badly needed humility! Here in the UK, Vader was, and always will be, hugely respected and admired...
Couldn't agree more. As a WCW fan who found out he had gone to WWF and then booked into a program with Shawn, I totally expected he'd beat Shawn like he did Sting, in a way that showed the heart of the smaller champ but ultimately showed "realness" in that Vader should smash these dudes and especially Shawn who has way less power and explosiveness and size than Sting did. Once I found out he was jobbing to Shawn there was no way I was giving WWE the time of day in 96 especially with how great WCW was becoming.
Back in the 90s, Vader was a good actor and could have been bigger if he wanted to.
Met the guy when I was really young, absolute sweetheart, didn’t believe he was a wrestler honestly.
Vader vs Cactus Jack was Crazy at WcW.
VADER TIME!!
One of my ALL time favorites.
People makes mistakes but this is the most disrespectful moment by a "main star" in wtestling. He cannot say he is sorry. He did it a lot of times until the end of career. You can be sorry for one mistake; you cannot be sorry for being who you are (selfish, prick and unprofessional) because you cannot change who you are.
He should have went back to wcw in late 96 to feud with nwo being allies with piper the horsemen dungeon of doom luger and savage. Vader and Flair vs Hall and Nash. Vader Benoit and double A vs hall nash and syxx. Vader vs the giant. Vader and luger vs hogan and the giant to name a few possible matches.
Truth
Vader seemed so kool and laid bk
This is interesting because it is very different than what was being done in the early eighties. Then they would have a big event and recreate that big event on the following tour.
I’m watching the old days on the network and it’s a fucking disgrace how poorly Vader was pushed, you can see the fans gagging for something more it’s a shame. The charisma of this man as soon as he came out was unique. RIP big man, one of the real nice guys of wrestling 🖖
He was pushed well out the gate but after SummerSlam with Shawn it was downhill
Vader a legend. He was my favorite wrestling man to play with when I was a kid 😂
He didn't want vader to get over he was scared
It’s time! It’s time! It’s Vader time!
You people have to watch this match again when Vader drops Shawn on the steel outside the ring The fan that was sitting next to the barrier was hilarious !!!!!!
Minute i saw Vader job to Mero i knew his days were numbered in wwf .. What they did to Vader was ridiculous i swear
Vader was THE guy, I don't think there was anybody ever has intimidating. Sid vicious actually came close in my book.
The Warrior leaving had a lot to do with Sid getting that spot also, as Warrior left in the summer of 96
Vader could have kicked all their asses behind the scenes but he was a family man and provider first and foremost. He was afraid of getting fired or fined so he played ball with all of the bs.
That’s bull Vader is the man and will always be the man because it’s time it’s time it’s Vader time
Vader vs sting where classic matches
Vader seems mad cool
Him not being in the hall of fame is an insult to society
Best big men ever. Rest in peace big guy.
Actually if u look at the storyline in mid 96, it would seem Sid was given ultimate warriors spot after warrior was fired. Sid replaced him in the match alongside shawn and ahmed johnson.they likely would had planned a warrior title run if he stayed.i think we were about to see a warrior heel turn at the survivor series 96 main event
Someone told me that steve austin said that vader would've made it in the wwf if he came in towards 99
Shawn Michaels stole his finishing move from Gentleman Chris Adams.
You can say this about other finishers with other wrestlers.
@@THATGUY-ir4ie HBK fan about to cry
@@grammysworld5449 No. I like them both.
@@grammysworld5449 And if you want to say that Chris Adams stole the move from The Great Kabuki.
Actually he’s given credit to Chris Adams multiple times.
Vader should of been huge in WWF. Great wrestler, character and heel.
Vader didnt die. He just had to put the grim reaper over to earn his eternity.
Shawn was a real classless prick back in the day he definitely stepped on a lot of people's toes to keep his spot that's why im glad undertaker put a stop to his reign of terror at wrestlemania xv when it was rumored he wasn't planning on dropping the title to stone cold it's ironic that after he did all those horrible things to people in the wrestling business that he out of hypocrisy decides to turn his life around smh.
RIP Vader