Oliver recruting himself, actually happened to me on my very first blind playthrough of Radiant Dawn by complete accident. ....waaay back, when this game was only a few months old.
The biggest thing about Naesala, and why he feels (and largely is) worse than the other royals isn’t really that his stats are worse, it’s that he has S rank strike at base instead of SS like all the other royals. If you use him extensively in 4-P and 4-3, which you probably should, he can hit SS strike at which point he performs just as well as all the other royals in the tower. Being able to double auras without white tide is nice, especially in limited settings like draft or iron man, so he’s worth the investment overall.
To this day I think Pelleas should have been force deployed in 1 endgame and in the part 3 defend map against the Greil Mercenaries. I like this character, get him into D tier
Here's a fun thing to do with Skrimir, in 4-P. He can bait over one of the enemies to the north to attack him while untransformed. He'll take just enough damage to be in resolve range. Have him transform turn-2, and you have resolve-Skrimir for the rest of the chapter, and he probably won't need any healing. Just keep him away from magic. I don't recall there being a similar position in 4-3; but there are plenty of mages he can bait, transformed or not, so it's easy to get him in resolve-range there.
The cost of Dark tomes is why you'd use Thunder tomes with Pelleas; a forged Thunder tome that you make ahead of his joining and then trade to him helps his accuracy in 4-2 too.
I would be curious to see how transfer bonuses would affect things, if anything. It feels like some characters would greatly benefit from getting some boosts (Jill, Nephenee) whereas for some characters it only really affects how early you can start bonus XP abusing (Ike, Mia, Soren), and for some characters it just simply doesn't do enough to save them (Ilyana, Mist, Rhys).
I feel like it wouldn’t change their placements much. Like if non transfer Jill is better than non transfer Mia, surely transfer Jill would still be better than transfer Mia no?
I pointed this out in the first part of the review series. Rafiel being able to dance 4 units in base beats out movement imo. I can even excuse the worse availability for this.
Rafiel is definitely better than Reyson in the tower, though I think Reyson is higher overall thanks to availability but I don’t think they should be a tier apart.
You’re right about stillness, it makes it so you only get attacked if you’re literally the only target available, definitely nice on Micaiah I just wish it could go on your heron. It’s embarrassing to admit how I know this but Bastian still has to pay Volke’s 3k gold fee, and Volke just disappears if you try and recruit him without the gold lol. The conversation is pretty funny though. Volke deserves a shoutout from me for being able to one turn 4-5 with a double rescue since unlike Tibarn he can attack Izuka without clearing out his human shield of feral ones. I actually believe Naesala is better than Tibarn because of 4-5 being so damn easy. Obviously Tibarn’s stats are better but Naesala just stands out more in his second chapter than Tibarn. The reason Naesala feels weak initially is because he’s actually the only royal who doesn’t have SS strike, he just has S. So if you just let him get a bunch of strike rank in part 4 by tossing him into clumps of enemies he’ll be stronger than Nailah, and pretty close to Tibarn when they’re in the tower. Though Nailah does have that part 1 availability. Renning is solid in 0% growths thanks to his ability to use the wrymslayer and especially the hammer. Glad you put some respect on his name because I feel like most people never try him which is a shame. Giffca’s higher speed actually let’s him double Sephiran unlike Caineghis, and he can even double auras with a speedwing from 3-9. However this is a long time to hold onto a speedwing and when I tried it Haar really suffered in part 4, just something to note. Caineghis has the advantage of attacking turn 1 however, so I agree with your placement, just tossing some more info in. I don’t think there should be an entire tier between Gareth and Ena, they basically have the same utility. The only time you really need blood tide in the tower is for Dheginsea and especially Ashera, Ena is definitely better but not by a whole tier. And by that logic Nasir is above Ena due to how much better white pool is than blood tide. When availability is this, low the difference in the final chapter is pretty huge. I’ve actually never used Tanith… ever lol, so I’ll take your word for that one. I know she’s really good in the normal mode speedrun. Yeah Tauroneo’s defense is really bad for how high level he is and what his class should be good at, Jill and Nolan will have higher defense along with better offense and mobility in part 3. It’s just easy to miss because of when he joins, it’s amazing in 1-6. Man well done on this, Radiant Dawn tier lists are such a mess because of how availability works but you were pretty on the mark. I don’t see a single person on the list I’d move by more than 1 tier. Glad I found your channel through this series
no teibe ris ebcte he bacly solos a map buy him self he is worts youc an bouen Exp cangar and if he get on exte pon of speed he wood duble are with with poule and canigahs has actualy
@@JoanFarjasPastor tibarn doubles every enemy in the game at base level including auras, there’s no need for bonus exp. I’m not disputing that Tibarn has better stats, it’s just about the chapters they’re in, Tibarn is basically worthless in 4-5 if you 1 turn it which is half of his pre tower availability. Normally I don’t like using LTC strats as arguments in tier lists but that one turn is so easy with a single strong flier that there’s no reason not to do it. Tibarn doesn’t even solo his first map because it’s too large, he can handle half of it but not all of it unless you take like 20 turns.
@@Bunnymafia8150 That you can soale don't mens tha the si beter and tienbn perfoem bete in the tan than nasiale so iven if he was beter for 1 capetna tibanr dos mor dmaens adn has csnaeb sp that he cood fight with a cent eon his back and fight as esle as he can
@@JoanFarjasPastor both of their combat is overkill, the only thing Naesala has problems with are the wyverns in 4-3 which I can’t really fault him for. But they both kill just about everything and never die, so how is Tibarn’s performance more valuable? By the time you get to the tower Naesala will have SS strikes and a strength level up or two on average thanks to his lower base level and higher exp gain. So they have practically the same performance in the tower, and Naesala effectively has an extra map. Seems pretty cut and dry to me
@@Bunnymafia8150 tibarna cna kill genriels witha a skile actiaviton Nasala can't thiababrn can kill red droeng isn the toewe witha skil activation so he is beter and tiabrn dos more damenge to awyrars tibena dos aleso beter agans deguisan han nesala
I feel like if the game would have done more with Naesala and 1-2 range (his Maelstrom skill is cheeks, honestly), he'd be a real contender, even with only S strike.
My least(most?) favorite thing about skrimir is that in 3-P there's a chance he'll use an extra use of his Laguz Stone plus in 3-E, giving you a Skrimir with a 1 use Stone
If you have POR transfers with giffca selected, would argue giffca is better than lion king due to having higher speed and coming with the strength transfer, but otherwise same unit.
Normal mode is a guide I would love to watch with transferred data attached. Then break down the royals and people with bad availability in there own group so they don't weigh down the regular played units
I think Tormod is still way too low. He’s basically the Volke of part 1. He doubles everything and always at least nearly ORKOs. He’s definitely a better endgame pick than most of the DB scrubs that you’re babying
Disagree with the Zihark demotion/Mia promotion. Being one of the few good units on the DB makes Zihark more essential than Mia, not less. Mia gets more chapters in part 3 to grow, but she's usually competing with the best units in the game for slots on the map and EXP while Zihark is competing against children.
Beginning of game is hard but their endgame choose ability is gonna be the most important factor. There's plenty xp for the greil merchant to go around so mia will prob have a lot higher xp than zihark. The goobersquad is so weak and fragile that they all have to team up to fight 1 enemy.
I always save bexp for oliver, he caps every stat if you put it all in him.. Free healer with no investment for endgame is good no matter what, he is legit good in tower even without bexp LOL
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You gave Nolan and volug too much credit. It's true they're all you got but if they aren't being using at the end then they don't deserve an A rating even if they're the carry of the useless goober squad
Caineghis is Skrimir's uncle btw not his dad.
Oliver recruting himself, actually happened to me on my very first blind playthrough of Radiant Dawn by complete accident.
....waaay back, when this game was only a few months old.
The biggest thing about Naesala, and why he feels (and largely is) worse than the other royals isn’t really that his stats are worse, it’s that he has S rank strike at base instead of SS like all the other royals. If you use him extensively in 4-P and 4-3, which you probably should, he can hit SS strike at which point he performs just as well as all the other royals in the tower. Being able to double auras without white tide is nice, especially in limited settings like draft or iron man, so he’s worth the investment overall.
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To this day I think Pelleas should have been force deployed in 1 endgame and in the part 3 defend map against the Greil Mercenaries. I like this character, get him into D tier
Here's a fun thing to do with Skrimir, in 4-P. He can bait over one of the enemies to the north to attack him while untransformed. He'll take just enough damage to be in resolve range. Have him transform turn-2, and you have resolve-Skrimir for the rest of the chapter, and he probably won't need any healing. Just keep him away from magic.
I don't recall there being a similar position in 4-3; but there are plenty of mages he can bait, transformed or not, so it's easy to get him in resolve-range there.
Disarm isn't fully a meme it's got some use for stealing weapons
Yup I always keep a thief next to a disarm unit to rob them
The cost of Dark tomes is why you'd use Thunder tomes with Pelleas; a forged Thunder tome that you make ahead of his joining and then trade to him helps his accuracy in 4-2 too.
Other than the fact that I think Nolan should be a little lower this tier list is very well made, researched and thought out
Gamble Volke. Have fun.
Pelleas and sanaki both being overshadowed by micaiah in terms of leadership and utility sadly makes sense storywise lmaooo
I would be curious to see how transfer bonuses would affect things, if anything. It feels like some characters would greatly benefit from getting some boosts (Jill, Nephenee) whereas for some characters it only really affects how early you can start bonus XP abusing (Ike, Mia, Soren), and for some characters it just simply doesn't do enough to save them (Ilyana, Mist, Rhys).
I feel like it wouldn’t change their placements much.
Like if non transfer Jill is better than non transfer Mia, surely transfer Jill would still be better than transfer Mia no?
It gives them an extra 3 stat points or so at base
Always feel that Rafiel is the better heron over Reyson. Lack of canto sure, but being able to Galdr 4 units Turn 1 is a big deal
You get 2 laguz gems for the tower which immediately makes Reyson the better heron then.
@@TheZipding Oh I know. But then it takes Reyson two turns to do what Rafiel can in 1. But I’ll give Reyson another try
@@TheZipding Most of the tower chapters are super short. Rafiel being able to canto turn-1 matters.
I pointed this out in the first part of the review series. Rafiel being able to dance 4 units in base beats out movement imo. I can even excuse the worse availability for this.
Rafiel is definitely better than Reyson in the tower, though I think Reyson is higher overall thanks to availability but I don’t think they should be a tier apart.
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I mean kurthnaga with paragon and dragon foe is pretty easy to grind of you really want to
You’re right about stillness, it makes it so you only get attacked if you’re literally the only target available, definitely nice on Micaiah I just wish it could go on your heron.
It’s embarrassing to admit how I know this but Bastian still has to pay Volke’s 3k gold fee, and Volke just disappears if you try and recruit him without the gold lol. The conversation is pretty funny though.
Volke deserves a shoutout from me for being able to one turn 4-5 with a double rescue since unlike Tibarn he can attack Izuka without clearing out his human shield of feral ones.
I actually believe Naesala is better than Tibarn because of 4-5 being so damn easy. Obviously Tibarn’s stats are better but Naesala just stands out more in his second chapter than Tibarn. The reason Naesala feels weak initially is because he’s actually the only royal who doesn’t have SS strike, he just has S. So if you just let him get a bunch of strike rank in part 4 by tossing him into clumps of enemies he’ll be stronger than Nailah, and pretty close to Tibarn when they’re in the tower. Though Nailah does have that part 1 availability.
Renning is solid in 0% growths thanks to his ability to use the wrymslayer and especially the hammer. Glad you put some respect on his name because I feel like most people never try him which is a shame.
Giffca’s higher speed actually let’s him double Sephiran unlike Caineghis, and he can even double auras with a speedwing from 3-9. However this is a long time to hold onto a speedwing and when I tried it Haar really suffered in part 4, just something to note. Caineghis has the advantage of attacking turn 1 however, so I agree with your placement, just tossing some more info in.
I don’t think there should be an entire tier between Gareth and Ena, they basically have the same utility. The only time you really need blood tide in the tower is for Dheginsea and especially Ashera, Ena is definitely better but not by a whole tier. And by that logic Nasir is above Ena due to how much better white pool is than blood tide. When availability is this, low the difference in the final chapter is pretty huge.
I’ve actually never used Tanith… ever lol, so I’ll take your word for that one. I know she’s really good in the normal mode speedrun.
Yeah Tauroneo’s defense is really bad for how high level he is and what his class should be good at, Jill and Nolan will have higher defense along with better offense and mobility in part 3. It’s just easy to miss because of when he joins, it’s amazing in 1-6.
Man well done on this, Radiant Dawn tier lists are such a mess because of how availability works but you were pretty on the mark. I don’t see a single person on the list I’d move by more than 1 tier. Glad I found your channel through this series
no teibe ris ebcte he bacly solos a map buy him self he is worts youc an bouen Exp cangar and if he get on exte pon of speed he wood duble are with with poule and canigahs has actualy
@@JoanFarjasPastor tibarn doubles every enemy in the game at base level including auras, there’s no need for bonus exp.
I’m not disputing that Tibarn has better stats, it’s just about the chapters they’re in, Tibarn is basically worthless in 4-5 if you 1 turn it which is half of his pre tower availability. Normally I don’t like using LTC strats as arguments in tier lists but that one turn is so easy with a single strong flier that there’s no reason not to do it.
Tibarn doesn’t even solo his first map because it’s too large, he can handle half of it but not all of it unless you take like 20 turns.
@@Bunnymafia8150 That you can soale don't mens tha the si beter and tienbn perfoem bete in the tan than nasiale so iven if he was beter for 1 capetna tibanr dos mor dmaens adn has csnaeb sp that he cood fight with a cent eon his back and fight as esle as he can
@@JoanFarjasPastor both of their combat is overkill, the only thing Naesala has problems with are the wyverns in 4-3 which I can’t really fault him for. But they both kill just about everything and never die, so how is Tibarn’s performance more valuable? By the time you get to the tower Naesala will have SS strikes and a strength level up or two on average thanks to his lower base level and higher exp gain.
So they have practically the same performance in the tower, and Naesala effectively has an extra map. Seems pretty cut and dry to me
@@Bunnymafia8150 tibarna cna kill genriels witha a skile actiaviton Nasala can't thiababrn can kill red droeng isn the toewe witha skil activation so he is beter and tiabrn dos more damenge to awyrars tibena dos aleso beter agans deguisan han nesala
I feel like if the game would have done more with Naesala and 1-2 range (his Maelstrom skill is cheeks, honestly), he'd be a real contender, even with only S strike.
My least(most?) favorite thing about skrimir is that in 3-P there's a chance he'll use an extra use of his Laguz Stone plus in 3-E, giving you a Skrimir with a 1 use Stone
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If you have POR transfers with giffca selected, would argue giffca is better than lion king due to having higher speed and coming with the strength transfer, but otherwise same unit.
Normal mode is a guide I would love to watch with transferred data attached. Then break down the royals and people with bad availability in there own group so they don't weigh down the regular played units
I honestly would really love to see a parh of radiance tear list from you
I think Tormod is still way too low. He’s basically the Volke of part 1. He doubles everything and always at least nearly ORKOs. He’s definitely a better endgame pick than most of the DB scrubs that you’re babying
Tormod is a oddball because he has high str and high magic which is pretty bad. I recall him also have slow speed by the time he returns to the team.
Disagree with the Zihark demotion/Mia promotion. Being one of the few good units on the DB makes Zihark more essential than Mia, not less. Mia gets more chapters in part 3 to grow, but she's usually competing with the best units in the game for slots on the map and EXP while Zihark is competing against children.
Beginning of game is hard but their endgame choose ability is gonna be the most important factor. There's plenty xp for the greil merchant to go around so mia will prob have a lot higher xp than zihark. The goobersquad is so weak and fragile that they all have to team up to fight 1 enemy.
Woohoo, he moved Ilyana up by 1 spot! 10/10 Best Unit!
You’re a good boy (pets your head)
I hope you do a commentary speedrun playthrough because your comments are so funny
I always save bexp for oliver, he caps every stat if you put it all in him.. Free healer with no investment for endgame is good no matter what, he is legit good in tower even without bexp LOL
Every single character on the list will cap stats if you give them all of your exp and make the rest of your team useless
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I feel like you’re losing it 😂
Volug is good? Also Zihark over Mia and Edward?
Zihark doesn't require as much xp as Ed. Ed and aran need a lot of xp
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Btom to d, aran to d, taurine to c, shining ro a, titania is high a imo... otherwise accurate.
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You gave Nolan and volug too much credit. It's true they're all you got but if they aren't being using at the end then they don't deserve an A rating even if they're the carry of the useless goober squad