Battling hunger is always going to lead to the body winning, that's just a simple mechanism that the body does to ensure survival. When i was during the height of my restriction, i didn't acknowledge hunger until i was wanting protein. It lead to me contemplating for hours about having a beef jerky instead of a cookie, which then resulted into me eating almost the whole package of cookies anyways and compensating later on. Don't battle hunger with such extreme, i learned that the hard way
Thank you so much for this video Mia. I have been in recovery for about a year now and have struggled with these terms a lot and the mental fixation of trying to categorise every queue. Your videos are always such a breath of much needed fresh air in the recovery space.
I recently found your channel and have been going over your vids and podcasts. I have struggled with an ED for over 30+ years and have just recently started seriously preparing for recovery. Your channel has been a big inspiration for this decision. So thank you so much for sharing your story and knowledge.
I remember there was a point during my ED where I lost physical hunger and it was just my brain yelling. It was yelling at me about food. I remember going on the ED forums and posting about what I was experiencing and someone responded along the lines of, “your body’s gotten used to the hunger, but your brain hasn’t, so once you push past it, you’ll be all good!” Soon enough, it became a lot less valid if I was just mentally hungry and not physically. I wish I found this video in the earlier days of recovery. Could have saved me years
I've been having very similar thoughts over the past couple of years and especially recently as I watch people on GLP1s rave about how it silences "food noise" (a new term for mental hunger aka hunger, it seems) - you articulated this perfectly. To me, I no longer classify "types" of hunger. I am just hungry or I am not. Upon reflection, I realize that I spent YEARS dealing with mental hunger aka hunger when I was restricting most heavily. I did almost nothing but follow food pages on instagram, watched probably thousands of "what I eat in a day" videos, was constantly reading books related to food and diet, and I never once validated that as the actual, true hunger that it always was. About 1.5 years into consistently eating enough I realized that the "mental hunger" had basically completely gone away, and that's when the wheels started turning for me about the so-called distinctions between mental, emotional, physical hunger that I had believed in for so long.
This is really important, thank you for dedicating a video for it. Learning that thinking about food is a hunger cue revolutionised my recovery years ago. Around that time, I also learned about interoception and realised that it often takes a while for me to notice my physical needs. I'm living in my head full of thoughts. :D It is therefore much easier to spot a thought of food and then act accordingly. It has helped tremendously. I used to worry if I'd forget to eat, but now I have a reliable cue to follow and I trust myself. It has also been a fun quest to fulfill those more specific food cravings, if I don't have those at home to grab right away. :D
learning about interoception was game changer for me as well. I was ALWAYS in my head a well. One of the big things for me in fixing that was getting rid of the idea that the mind and body are separate - sometimes called Dualism or Cartesian Duality. I no longer view my mind and body as two separate things and that has helped me to have greater interoceptive awareness.
Hi Mia, something that came up in my mind today is to listen to the thirst signal. I see people teaching thirst equates dehydration which I don't think is true for everyone. Some people experience thirst sooner than others. I am trying to get more connected with knowing when to stop drinking water or other drinks so that I can function my best.
Love your videos. I miss a video that you privatized/took down though which was the I ate too much freak out, because that was one that I went back to a lot to help with my own re-framining, But if you don't want it to make it available again, I get it. 🥺
Thank you Mia for talking about this topic. When I watched it it got clear to me, that my ed also made me just respond to extrem loud hunger cues. The others just weren‘t worth listening to. I just wondered when i watched the video, the „hunger“ /appetite/ urge to eat rapidly, that arises in stressful situations that may cause binges, to numb feelings would you call that emotional hunger or what would be the word for that?
I know I'm not Mia, but in my opinion yes it absolutely is the same thing based on the way that they talk about it. It's actually what cemented the idea for me that I should completely stop distinguishing between "types" of hunger. Those people were just hungry, plain and simple.
I do not know what has happened to make you feel "unacceptable" but you repeat that word often in the video. So that word has power. Said sincerely. I like that you uploaded this video on your marathon fight with ED recovery.
Battling hunger is always going to lead to the body winning, that's just a simple mechanism that the body does to ensure survival. When i was during the height of my restriction, i didn't acknowledge hunger until i was wanting protein. It lead to me contemplating for hours about having a beef jerky instead of a cookie, which then resulted into me eating almost the whole package of cookies anyways and compensating later on. Don't battle hunger with such extreme, i learned that the hard way
Thank you so much for this video Mia. I have been in recovery for about a year now and have struggled with these terms a lot and the mental fixation of trying to categorise every queue. Your videos are always such a breath of much needed fresh air in the recovery space.
I recently found your channel and have been going over your vids and podcasts. I have struggled with an ED for over 30+ years and have just recently started seriously preparing for recovery. Your channel has been a big inspiration for this decision. So thank you so much for sharing your story and knowledge.
I remember there was a point during my ED where I lost physical hunger and it was just my brain yelling. It was yelling at me about food. I remember going on the ED forums and posting about what I was experiencing and someone responded along the lines of, “your body’s gotten used to the hunger, but your brain hasn’t, so once you push past it, you’ll be all good!” Soon enough, it became a lot less valid if I was just mentally hungry and not physically. I wish I found this video in the earlier days of recovery. Could have saved me years
I've been having very similar thoughts over the past couple of years and especially recently as I watch people on GLP1s rave about how it silences "food noise" (a new term for mental hunger aka hunger, it seems) - you articulated this perfectly. To me, I no longer classify "types" of hunger. I am just hungry or I am not. Upon reflection, I realize that I spent YEARS dealing with mental hunger aka hunger when I was restricting most heavily. I did almost nothing but follow food pages on instagram, watched probably thousands of "what I eat in a day" videos, was constantly reading books related to food and diet, and I never once validated that as the actual, true hunger that it always was. About 1.5 years into consistently eating enough I realized that the "mental hunger" had basically completely gone away, and that's when the wheels started turning for me about the so-called distinctions between mental, emotional, physical hunger that I had believed in for so long.
This is really important, thank you for dedicating a video for it. Learning that thinking about food is a hunger cue revolutionised my recovery years ago. Around that time, I also learned about interoception and realised that it often takes a while for me to notice my physical needs. I'm living in my head full of thoughts. :D It is therefore much easier to spot a thought of food and then act accordingly.
It has helped tremendously. I used to worry if I'd forget to eat, but now I have a reliable cue to follow and I trust myself. It has also been a fun quest to fulfill those more specific food cravings, if I don't have those at home to grab right away. :D
learning about interoception was game changer for me as well. I was ALWAYS in my head a well. One of the big things for me in fixing that was getting rid of the idea that the mind and body are separate - sometimes called Dualism or Cartesian Duality. I no longer view my mind and body as two separate things and that has helped me to have greater interoceptive awareness.
Hi Mia, something that came up in my mind today is to listen to the thirst signal. I see people teaching thirst equates dehydration which I don't think is true for everyone. Some people experience thirst sooner than others. I am trying to get more connected with knowing when to stop drinking water or other drinks so that I can function my best.
Thank you!❤
Awww, you are making so much sense. I get to listen to my brain. It's telling me what I need. Very helpful. ❤
Love your videos. I miss a video that you privatized/took down though which was the I ate too much freak out, because that was one that I went back to a lot to help with my own re-framining, But if you don't want it to make it available again, I get it. 🥺
Thank you for this great information. Very interesting
Thank you Mia for talking about this topic. When I watched it it got clear to me, that my ed also made me just respond to extrem loud hunger cues. The others just weren‘t worth listening to. I just wondered when i watched the video, the „hunger“ /appetite/ urge to eat rapidly, that arises in stressful situations that may cause binges, to numb feelings would you call that emotional hunger or what would be the word for that?
I would LOVE your input on ED'd folks utilizing GLP-1s to aid their illness (or to be pointed in the right direction, if you have already done so). 💞
interesting take on it!
Is mental hunger similar to “food noise” that people describe having and GLP-1s helping a lot with?
I know I'm not Mia, but in my opinion yes it absolutely is the same thing based on the way that they talk about it. It's actually what cemented the idea for me that I should completely stop distinguishing between "types" of hunger. Those people were just hungry, plain and simple.
I do not know what has happened to make you feel "unacceptable" but you repeat that word often in the video. So that word has power. Said sincerely. I like that you uploaded this video on your marathon fight with ED recovery.
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