I figured out the importance of hip extension when i was at a park. i tried to stall for the first time and ended up tucking right before the upward momentum stopped. i got so confused since it felt so much easier and higher that it felt strange
So after some digging, I came across the extremely obvious yet interesting bit of physics. You cannot initiate rotation in mid air with no original rotation in the set. If you were to jump straight up and pull knees to chest, the chest goes through equal rotation towards the knees, as there's no friction to keep the two from meeting. This basically means that you need to have some lil bit of backwards rotation as you leave the ground, then use your knees to increase rotational speed by reducing body length. Do with this info what you will
Fuck. Jumping straight up and spotting is so scary. For me it just feels like the rotation wont happen for me. But ill work on it master tyson. Wish me luck
Good luck! Yeah if rotation feels slow, you need to tuck a bit earlier as it is meant to capitalise on the momentum you created in the jump. Also, yes, you jump up but look at any of my back tucks and see my body is leaning slightly back as I jump, needs a bit of direction.
I struggle with this too. If I reach full hip extension in my jump, it's like my body shuts down the tuck, but if I get an explosive tuck, it means I didn't reach full extension on my jump. Anyway, thanks for making this video, Tyson. It's definitely the most nuanced and thoughtful breakdown of back tucks that I've seen on TH-cam. I appreciate the insights...and also knowing that other people struggle with finding that balance as well. :)
Wow…this is the video I needed. Each of the things you discussed are questions that plague me about the back tuck. Thank you very much. I can’t wait to work on it tomorrow.
Nice video and cool montage work with right moment points. Now i want watch video with Nile Wilson. Really forgot about it ( or maybe did see) Love those crossovers with Clarence Kennedy too, just watched Fusion gone wrong - ending made me laugh Also wonder was that Guinness record record before or after weight lifting competition training and how hard it was to switch from power clean lower back movement to gymnastic vertical jump? , think abs had to be equally trained to be able tuck after hip extension got used to +100 kg
WOW )) great skills then and time management .I had to stop doing Snatch and clean to to learn vertical jump for back flip ( may be cause I just leaned it ) but it really stuck in my head that lifting make my back work different than what I need for proper summer sault
Bro i need your help. Been doing backflips for a year now. Managed to land about 30cm behind. Sometimes it’s more. Im scared to jump fully up and then tuck. My vertical is pretty high but somehow when i do the flip i tend to tuck too early and lean slightly back. Ive also tried to imagine jumping forward a bit, that helped me to pretty much land on spot but with no hight. Would you suggest to train with a matt stack? Or what can i do to jump fully up and then tuck? Thx for your help.
I'd stack the mats up and practice. The main fear/risk is jumping straight up with no rotational momentum and falling on your back (or worse). The mat stack completely removes this risk and let's to practice the correct balance of upward VS rotational momentum.
My main issue is struggling to fully extend my legs, I CONSTANTLY take off with my knees bent at close to 90 no matter how hard I try to tell my legs to extend straighter, resulting in killed height and landing low. I'm not sure how to fix this because I think its the bad muscle memory of doing backflips like this for years now hindering me. : /
Do you think you could beat your own world record? I am 17 and have trained trampolining since I was 4 and only 2 years ago I got into doing tricks on the floor. I can standing full and standing back somersault at a fair height now since last year we had to stay in all summer and I spent a lot of time in my garden just practicing new moves and stuff. I saw your world record for highest standing back somersault and I was surprised that it was only 1.38m. last time I attempted the high jump in school was a couple of years ago and I could clear 1.48m. I am quite a bit taller than I was back then so I could probably clear at least 1.55m by now. I appreciate that standing jumps are totally different to the high jump but I think I could probably beat your world record. Honestly I don't know how hard it is to beat that and I have nowhere near as much training or experience as you do, but I measured the height this morning and it looks doable. Is there anything extra to consider when attempting this world record because I've never really thought about things like this before. I just want to say that I mean no disrespect to your world record but surely you could beat that and jump higher?
Yeah, I think I could. I only tried this set up once for the record so with more attempts, sure. If you saw my video then you would have seen GWR had specific standards which, when applied, results in an overall lower somersault. From memory the back tuck I did (measured my way i.e the lowest point of my body (head) at the highest point of the somersault) was 1.45m. Yeah standing is different, I wouldn't use your numbers there to gauge this. Consider you have to do it on hard floor and deal with GWR XD
@@TysonE Yeah I watched the video and I agree with the way you suggest where you jump straight up and measure the lowest point of your body at the highest point of the jump, but if GWR want to do it differently then thats the way it is XD. I'd love to see a video where you attempt the record again and go for higher :)
He is using "but you gotta focus" as a bad form example.😀😀
Totally the best video ever! Exact words at right time with right pictures. Maximum respect to author!
Thanks!
Really helpful tips, thanks! Just started practicing yesterday and my flip would land about 4 yards behind. Can’t wait to put your tips into practice
I figured out the importance of hip extension when i was at a park. i tried to stall for the first time and ended up tucking right before the upward momentum stopped. i got so confused since it felt so much easier and higher that it felt strange
So after some digging, I came across the extremely obvious yet interesting bit of physics. You cannot initiate rotation in mid air with no original rotation in the set. If you were to jump straight up and pull knees to chest, the chest goes through equal rotation towards the knees, as there's no friction to keep the two from meeting. This basically means that you need to have some lil bit of backwards rotation as you leave the ground, then use your knees to increase rotational speed by reducing body length. Do with this info what you will
Exactly right! I address this at 0:50, no digging necessary 😂
@@TysonE ahh gotcha, I may have misunderstood and assumed you only meant this as your torso moving you back opposed to aiding rotation, beauty
Best video I've seen for a back tuck
Thanks Sagi!
Fuck. Jumping straight up and spotting is so scary. For me it just feels like the rotation wont happen for me. But ill work on it master tyson. Wish me luck
Good luck! Yeah if rotation feels slow, you need to tuck a bit earlier as it is meant to capitalise on the momentum you created in the jump. Also, yes, you jump up but look at any of my back tucks and see my body is leaning slightly back as I jump, needs a bit of direction.
I struggle with this too. If I reach full hip extension in my jump, it's like my body shuts down the tuck, but if I get an explosive tuck, it means I didn't reach full extension on my jump. Anyway, thanks for making this video, Tyson. It's definitely the most nuanced and thoughtful breakdown of back tucks that I've seen on TH-cam. I appreciate the insights...and also knowing that other people struggle with finding that balance as well. :)
Wow…this is the video I needed. Each of the things you discussed are questions that plague me about the back tuck. Thank you very much. I can’t wait to work on it tomorrow.
Good luck
Underrated information.
Need exactly this. Thanks Tyson 👌
Could you make a tutorial on round off and break down how the hand placement, how gain height to do other flips out it?
Just released this!
Spotting also prevents throwing your head back.
Maravillosoooo, excelente forma de explicarlo 💪🏻🔥🤘🏻
I dont really get the hip extension part. Please explain! 😅
is it easier to keep your eyes forward then through your head back
You should spot ahead of you up to just before peak of the jump. Head should never throw back in a back tuck.
Thanks for this I hope you success 😊 bro
Target Pigmie 🔥😂
Great video! Do you have another one talking about training that vertical jump?
This one: th-cam.com/video/fnH5v7mjkJQ/w-d-xo.html
Man I really need help with my backflip no matter how much I commit I can’t Rotate backwards only small amounts like I can’t get upside down
Probably need to go to a gymnastics centre where you can commit with confidence. Think of throwing your hips over your head.
Nice video and cool montage work with right moment points. Now i want watch video with Nile Wilson. Really forgot about it ( or maybe did see) Love those crossovers with Clarence Kennedy too, just watched Fusion gone wrong - ending made me laugh
Also wonder was that Guinness record record before or after weight lifting competition training and how hard it was to switch from power clean lower back movement to gymnastic vertical jump? , think abs had to be equally trained to be able tuck after hip extension got used to +100 kg
I trained weightlifting, tumbling and gymnastics strength training at the same time.
WOW )) great skills then and time management .I had to stop doing Snatch and clean to to learn vertical jump for back flip ( may be cause I just leaned it ) but it really stuck in my head that lifting make my back work different than what I need for proper summer sault
This is a incredible vid
Thanks!
Bro i need your help. Been doing backflips for a year now. Managed to land about 30cm behind. Sometimes it’s more. Im scared to jump fully up and then tuck. My vertical is pretty high but somehow when i do the flip i tend to tuck too early and lean slightly back. Ive also tried to imagine jumping forward a bit, that helped me to pretty much land on spot but with no hight. Would you suggest to train with a matt stack? Or what can i do to jump fully up and then tuck? Thx for your help.
I'd stack the mats up and practice. The main fear/risk is jumping straight up with no rotational momentum and falling on your back (or worse). The mat stack completely removes this risk and let's to practice the correct balance of upward VS rotational momentum.
@@TysonE thx mate will try that. Appreciate your help.
Who's the black guy at 0:47? He has some amazing height and form
Aaron Michael
Thank uuuuu
You’re welcome!
3:23 highest flat ground backflip I've ever seen.
Love how pigmie is all the fails
5 min ..
I noticed that! Poor Pigmie!…I’ve always noticed that his form was kinda whack, but his attitude is awesome. Such a likable person.
Thanks sir for video after big gap are you ok 🙏🙏🙏
What big gap?
@@TysonE Sorry sir I was wrong I get video notification after long time.
My main issue is struggling to fully extend my legs, I CONSTANTLY take off with my knees bent at close to 90 no matter how hard I try to tell my legs to extend straighter, resulting in killed height and landing low. I'm not sure how to fix this because I think its the bad muscle memory of doing backflips like this for years now hindering me. : /
I'd break down the movement and build it back up. Check out my 'How to Backflip in 4 Steps' tutorial, step 1 will be your focus for the legs.
What a thumbnail..bro😂😂😂😂😂
Do you think you could beat your own world record? I am 17 and have trained trampolining since I was 4 and only 2 years ago I got into doing tricks on the floor. I can standing full and standing back somersault at a fair height now since last year we had to stay in all summer and I spent a lot of time in my garden just practicing new moves and stuff. I saw your world record for highest standing back somersault and I was surprised that it was only 1.38m. last time I attempted the high jump in school was a couple of years ago and I could clear 1.48m. I am quite a bit taller than I was back then so I could probably clear at least 1.55m by now. I appreciate that standing jumps are totally different to the high jump but I think I could probably beat your world record. Honestly I don't know how hard it is to beat that and I have nowhere near as much training or experience as you do, but I measured the height this morning and it looks doable. Is there anything extra to consider when attempting this world record because I've never really thought about things like this before. I just want to say that I mean no disrespect to your world record but surely you could beat that and jump higher?
Yeah, I think I could. I only tried this set up once for the record so with more attempts, sure.
If you saw my video then you would have seen GWR had specific standards which, when applied, results in an overall lower somersault. From memory the back tuck I did (measured my way i.e the lowest point of my body (head) at the highest point of the somersault) was 1.45m.
Yeah standing is different, I wouldn't use your numbers there to gauge this.
Consider you have to do it on hard floor and deal with GWR XD
@@TysonE Yeah I watched the video and I agree with the way you suggest where you jump straight up and measure the lowest point of your body at the highest point of the jump, but if GWR want to do it differently then thats the way it is XD. I'd love to see a video where you attempt the record again and go for higher :)
Pigmies backflip is actually bad do you notice that if you search for how to do a backflip it will bring out a lot of pigmies videos
:(
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What you thinking?
I think about technique. The ideas you speak about is very useful for backflip.
Hahahhaha pigmie hahahahha