ASUS Z170-K common problem repair
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Yes ram is installed incorrectly slot 1 and 3 or A1 B1 or A2 B2. Great video has always. Nice fix 🎉
thats true dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1151/Z170-K/E12044_Z170-K_UM_V2_WEB.pdf?model=Z170-K look on page 17 ram installation tutorial
The order on the motherboard is: A1, A2, B1, B2.
If you have two memory sticks it should be installed in A2 and B2 if you want to use dual channel.
If one stick A2.
If four sticks, figured it out by yourself 😄
I think this applies to dual channel memory.
Single channel dont matter ?
Am sure i am wrong. I know very little about motherboards.
@@northwestrepairAll memory is single channel if you use only one or put them in A1 and A2, but to get dual channel memory you put one memory stick in the A2 and another in B2 and you now have enabled dual channel on you motherboard.
@@northwestrepair- Using the right combination of banks is what makes it dual-channel. The motherboard manual should list the correct slot combinations. Usually, if you have two sticks of RAM, you'll want to put them in slots 2 and 4 (where "4" is the one furthest from the CPU). But check the motherboard manual to be sure.
The likely issue is that the board you have has a early bios which is not fully stable with the late production DDR4 memory with more aggressive timings. Z170 was released during the DDR3 to DDR4 transition. Early production DDR4 has much less aggressive timings when compared to late production modules like the most recent 3200 CL16 sticks. BIOS updates usually are released later in the life time of the board to deal with these issues. What you see is a classic memory instability issue due to instability between the memory and the memory controller. This is similar to how DDR5 8200 memory is not guaranteed to be stable at rated speeds on all but the most high end overclocking boards and only with the best bined CPUs. This happened when we went from DDR2 to DDR3 and DDR3 to DDR4. You will see this issue again with current DDR5 boards whenever we go from DDR5 to DDR6.
Yeah, I was thinking "Why is Tony running this MB in single channel?" Could he have a reason we do not see? Still, always great to watch you work! I have fixed more computers than I can count, and the truth is, 'What will not work in one, will likely work in another' so...I don't trash anything unless it fails to work in at least 10 rigs, sounds like a lot of time and effort, but sometimes 'broken' parts just work.....
Z170 is already in extreme low demand. Just checked the market price here for the ASUS Z170-P: *50 euro asking price* for one in good condition.
yet i was told my video card( which is old rx480) wasn't woth the shipping cost to work on.
@@michaelwood9866it’s a 40usd gpu, the shipping probably costs more than that
@@michaelwood9866a second hand working 580 costs $50.
For Asus bios files you can use their bios renamer program (i think it's bundled with every bios you download)...
That doens't extract the BIOS from the Capsule. It just renames it for using with flashback and similar.
@@MerolaC Good point. But in this case he could've used it. That was my point.
But, why does he need to rename the files if he flashed it with an external tool? I do not understand that part.@@zackzeed
@@zackzeedyou don’t understand here. The cap file is an encrypted with headers. It only works if you use asus ez flash. If you want to use external flash, like this case, you need to decrypt and remove headers, extract uefi body only. Asus rename does nothing but … rename, which doesn’t help at all.
Please do more motherboards!!!! Love this!
always learn something new watching you
Now the sky is the limit! Next is power supply repairman! xD
lol no thanks !
This motherboard is sold for $100 with a CPU.
It makes no sense to spend time fixing it other than for your self.
Actually PSU sometimes have a shorted smd capacitor
PSU not worth repair they will fry everything in pc so not worth it is gambling :((((
@@derim006 ITS urban myth
@@ariewijaya1679Yeah No, a shit PSU will kill other components, my bad PSU ended up half killing my RAM and GPU, another ancient PC I had fully killed itself taking out the Motherboard, RAM and HDD.
loved it. Feeling happy is back alive
its great to see you doing a motherboard :)
on daisy chain layouts the first physical trace is a2 and or b2 ("or" for single channel cpus, "and" for dual) * i think the single channel cpu will connect to either of them as well.
a1 is daisy chained on a2 and b1 the same on b2.
On T- topology layouts there could be differences. Need to check the manual about memory configuration based on the motherboard mem layout and cpu
Great video! More interesting than the GPU crack repairs IMO. Also answers questions about why all the repair shops avoid motherboard repairs. I hope you do some more motherboard stuff even though you dont like it!
Tony, you should say "my motherboard was ALLEGEDLY killed by this GPU" until it's proven guilty 😂
he can be doing a video on repairing a toaster and will still take a shot at amd
no no no man dfon't you know AMD drivers are the problem no matter what? Shit, you can have a Xeon have an issue and its the AMD gpus fault , (not even in the system), every time. AMD can cure cancer and yet, the gpu drivers will still be a problem. AMD can release 2x price to perform- (oh wait they already do) and AMD is still evil.
Well, it worked the day before i plugged that AMD in it so thats enough evidence for me
@@northwestrepairI am not saying it cannot be true. However, "post hoc ergo propter hoc" is not always right. So I am anxiously waiting for the motherboard's post mortem and attempt to revive that.
@@northwestrepair - Well, you plug and unplug a lot of things every day, and motherboards don't last forever, so it would always fail after plugging or unplugging _something._ Just because one thing happens after another doesn't mean it was _caused_ by it.
XGEcu Plus, never heard of that one. I'm probably going to get one in case I need to flash a BIOS chip. I used to program BINs for my 86 and 87 Camaro and add a socket to the ECU for using EPROMs.
Good video. Going thru similar problem om Z97 mb. nice hat Asus boards have socketed Bios chips..
Amazing, something so simple bricks a MB
That is great. Success always feels good.
Right good work 💯🎉
Impatient to watch this
I,m glad that flashing Bios Help to fix motherboard.
Tnx, will download and save bios and tools for later time if my pc stops booting.
I have the same board with a i7 7700 that I got out of another case and lo and behold... It Works! I'm running 2 dual GPU AMD cards in X-Fire and 32 gigs of memory. I was surprised because I have a bunch of Wonky or dead ASUS Boards and have had them Uncerimoniousley quit on me for no reason. I would like to learn how to trouble shoot these things and bring them back to life if possible. Still.. the less features are a lot better because a lot less to go wrong! Nice fix too! Just keep it cool because I think Heat is what kills them.
Good job man
good to see smething new , i was looking for motherboard repair , i got msi b450 mortar max no display
What cpu and gpu?
@@michubern1444 my motherboard get physical damage missing transistor BS08 , could that prevent it from booting ?
@@user-qp5xb2fd4w send it back!?.. thats not ok at all
nice to see you happy
Great video 👍
Finally, i was dying to know what is gone on this board since it died on your video!
This is a different board.
😮
I always insert the CPU one corner first. My daughter used this method since she was 10 years old and she never missed, never bent any pins, ever. My programmer knows how to handle the BIOS from ASUS all by itself. It's an old one, an EZP2019+
This video became interesting for me because I have a skylake/kaby lake generation board. Pretty sure it's a kaby lake gen since it's a z270 board, but I'm actually running a skylake i7 in it.
I have same motherboard and i love this design.. Rams in worng place u need to put it 2-4 or 1-3
Always 2+4 with modern mainboards, actually. 1+3 works too, but sometimes can't even boot XMP.
@@-eMpTy- - It shouldn't make much (if any) difference from an electrical / logical point of view; if the motherboard is well designed, it will still be in spec. They generally recommend 2+4 because that improves cooling (and makes heatsink installation easier) compared to using 1+3.
@@RFC3514
It doesn't matter on T-Topology, but most if not all modern mainboards use a daisy chain memory topology instead. For daisy chain, it's absolutely crucial to put them in 2+4 to reduce signal reflections, otherwise you might not even be able to boot XMP as I said.
@@-eMpTy- - 1+3 worked fine on every dual-channel motherboard I've used. I usually try 1+3 and 2+4 separately when setting up a new system (just as a quick way to check that the four slots are working without having to use four sticks).
They usually end up in 2+4 (because it's just more practical, leaves more space for the CPU heatsink, etc.), but I've never seen 1+3 fail. Maybe it's an issue with some specific Intel motherboards (I'd say 90% of the ones I've used in the last 5 or 10 years were AMD, they all worked fine).
@@RFC3514
Then you must not have run any high speed memory. Treating your own experience a general fact is never a good idea. Literally any modern mainboard manual tells you to put them in 2+4, mainly for the aforementioned reason.
i haven't seen a Zalman flower cooler in a while... cheers!
You can force the power supply to turn on, just short pin 16 of the ATX power connector to ground. Then you can test all power points, don't even need a CPU installed.
It takes quite a bit for a motherboard to blow up a CPU, usually the S0 power stages are heavily protected specifically to prevent this kind of situations.
intel image is where u extract as is to make .bin
also there is a bios mod to use 8th gen cpu called coffeetime 0.99 but some cpu need pin mod.
under advanced> tool or OC you can save custom profile for easy reset bios and restore settings in future.
11:21 the 2nd mem is in wrong slot.. dual chan has a blank spot between them
First you surprise us with machining content, now motherboards!?
thank you
I wouldn't be surprised if the intel board had some micro code in it that just blows it up if there is an AMD GPU connected.
Now you got me wondering what is really possible to do with microcodes.
anything.
Board voltage is controlled by BIOS so you can fry your board if you can exceed that limit with a micro code.
😂
I see alot of comments saying so let me clear the sky single channel memory is 10% loss on cpu performance (may very between generations) but dual channel is the way to go with old and new cpus so NWR i suggest you install the ram in dual channel mode (also the slots are colour coded so itll be easy) congratulations on the successful reapir
For the iGPU it's night and day. Even just loading up google maps in 3d, it's a slideshow with single channel.
I bought a "untested" z790 motherboard for 35 bucks and it just worked...
Nice board.
Great sir
Just watched a video on Asus MB b450 that chip just right of the battery was an issues on two MB
special day out the the normal gpu repairs
We have pictureeee! I can't believe. That's insane.
sometimes the cmos is not getting cleared by flashing bios via programmer, for example recently i flashed an opensourced bios firmware called coreboot to a 15yo motherboard, then i flashed back to original one and cmos data still presents. (i used programmer on both flashing process)
so it's better to touch cmos battery jumper (usually it called as JBAT) just for a second for making sure. and no i'm not going to tell that you are using single channel memory as many people said before. nice ram sticks btw
another note: if you have seperated north bridge on your motherboard you can start them without a cpu for checking the voltages. but those motherboards aren't produced since more than a decade. if i'm not wrong intel killed seperated northbridge with 2th gen
Up next car electronics repair!
You say that because you have not watched my other channel
Omg you have another channel!
True….i had no idea.
😂
well thats one good thing about gigabyte motherboards, they have dual bios to help prevent these problems.
I know it won’t matter for testing but put the ram in the correct slots my ocd is going mad lol
lol noticed that too
Tony becoming skynet at around 6 minutes mark.
hey something I know more about. I learned something new. btw are you a texan or from down south?
I'm in the Uk and have this board fully working you can have for free but I have no idea how much it costs for shipping . I also have have a i5 6600 too.
The Dart vader futuristic voice is so funny
you would have to make a dummy cpu to test power.
How ?
I could just buy a working CPU for like $10
Hi Tony, now wait for all the faulty motherboards been sent your way to fix them 😝😝😝👍👍
sometimes i get people ask me but i turn them down one way or another.
No heat quick fix thanks to asus putting socket for bios chip .
Interesting…
You had to pull the bios chip to reprogram it?
I have an X99 motherboard and I think this might me the issue I had
robot voice engaged @6:00 :)
fyi, not in dual channel mode, you need to stagger the ram modules. (use 1 color of ram slots.) I am happy you scored a deal. I bought a rog strix z490-e for $50 and it had the same problem. Flashed and all is well. Cheers GPU Dude!
I have a problem with one GPU rx6600, only after a few restarting the system is working normally, tried flash the bios it starting to work normally but every morning after a long night doesn't start unless I am attempting a few times
Modifying the stock BIOS downloaded form a manufacturer website you have to insert the Ethernet MAC address into it, otherwise you lost networking capability.
i thought asus bios cannot be flashed using programmer due to ME regions, MB serials and what not. suprised it works just like that.
Do you take donations of parts that are not working any more? Would send some!
7:16 time, you're saving the rom export and it says *.cap & *.bin. If you specify as the .bin there, maybe save a few steps?
Up next Hot swapping Bios chips to save a dead board :)
love the robo voice while programming the bios, its like youre taking a dive inside the computer
there's some audio echo when you show desktop
the ram is installed incorrectly, slots 1 and 3.
I doesnt matter it will work in any combination but you wont be able to turn on XMP if its not a2 and b2.
Single channel i think.
and not all motherboards are first and third slots for dual channel
motherboard manual suggests 2 and 4.
@@attuozI have a MSI Tomahawk b550 and that’s how it is on it too. Looks weird but it works
🙂👍
8:00 ?! what happened to the sound? Is it north ridge trying to imitate your voice?
I had this board and had big issues.
Yes. I did to but right up until i updated BIOS
RAM is presumably not correctly installed. On Asus MBs susually slots 2 & 4 are used when you have 2 DIMMs. Also called A2 and B2 if I remember correctly.
I have an ASUS mobo, and after weeks of working fineone day it just started to blue-screen, i ran a RAM test and it says the modules 4GB to 8GB have errors(single DDR4 8GB 3600Mhz dimm)
The PC does boot and all, i can even run a live-OS but sometimes it crashes. If i try to re-install an OS to my PC it can't do it because ir says the memory is corrupted.
I'm hesitant to see if flashing the bios is a good idea or could i brick my mobo.
I updated 20+ motherboard i had 0 issues. What board do you have? A lot of older ones have problems with fast ddr4 ram
But that MB has BIOS recovery, ie, put the .cap on a USB, plug it in, and restart.
that might work, i never tried.
It fails to boot most of the time so following that advice can be impossible.
lolll C3PO voice... cool
That was the revenge of an AMD card for all the badmouthing that you have done against them 😂
wwoooah there.. is that a motherboard on your table or you are just very excited to see us :D?
Reason now I get boards with no CPU bios flashing
Quite a bargain, considering these boards normally go for around $100.
A z170 board is not 100 lol
@@michubern1444
If you Google z170, they come up between $100-$140.
11:16 somehow I like how he laugh
Send your old mobo to northridge for repair 😁
It will cost me more than a working one.
Companies that call a reboot a reset should banish from the surface of computing market :)
A repairman in soul, just can't help himself and always tries to save stuff from the garbage bin. I suffer from the same mentality, sometimes it hurts more than just moving forward. we are a special kind of idiots for sure, but damn it fells good to be a degenerate 😜🤪
the comment about the ram its make me giggle 🤣🤣😂😂 oh keyboard warriors 🤣🤣
They be typing angry like
Memory next to each other is single channel and not dual channel. 2 and 4 or 1 and 3 for DC.
Jarvis doing motherboard repairs 🤣
Tony: "I never worked on motherboards." *proves this by not installing second RAM stick for dual channel*
Seriously, ram needs a complete overhaul.
And operating systems using 4k clusters on a ntfs partition on nvme is a complete crime scene.
It needs to be completely revamped.
ROS ram os.
We have all the hardware now. Os is usung 30 year old tech. Yes win 11 is usung tech from the 90s
ram needs be in slot 1-3 bud
update grqphic bios
You need to separate your ram. Your only running 1 channel instead of 2 channel.
ddr slot dim1 dim2 , use same color
MEMORY IS SLOTTED WRONG PLACE
looks a lot like the gpu didn't kill the board afterall...
Someone probably put in the wrong bios update...
No. I had this happen on my own PC exact same motherboard.
Firmware goes bad and it boots and it doesnt boot. Hard to say exactly what makes it boot but solution is the same. Update the bios manually.
He fixes motherboards now! He is getting out of hand!
Crossfire Ready? What decade is that shit from?
now Try that MB killer AMD 6800 on this MB AGAIN! 🤣
You probably won't have dual channel on your ram
Yeah i dont think i do.