now we are here today when after booting from a usb you click through an installer and wait 20 minutes, then you are left with a fully functional linux installation
@@Sithhy Thank goodness. I think it has less to do with the distro itself, and most of the time really just comes down to how fast the storage devices (or internet, in netinstalls) are. I've installed distros on PCs with USB 1.1, and let me tell you, it's... not quick. I have an old intel atom netbook with an SSD I installed LMDE to, and that only took about 4 minutes.
@@damianfleszar8576 I see you’re familiar with Arch. It’ll be up to date, the most recent version of everything. Whether it works or not, it’ll be the most recent.
This is the first evidence I’ve seen that someone got SLS to work. I spent more than a few days in 1993 or 1994 trying to figure it out without success. Switched to Slackware and it worked so much better. Been using Linux since 0.7 when I was compiling my own kernels.
Yes, I think it was some version of Slackware when I had the kernel compile complteted first try. Didn't have to much with thing, chase down fixes, etc.
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Thanks for posting. I remember a college friend told me in 1992 that he had set up Linux on his PC at home with X11, and that he was connecting to the university's network using a modem and SLIP (Serial Line Internet Protocol). This gives me an idea of what he had to do to set it up.
@@anderson_maciel - I did something in the same vein about a year later. I had an Atari Mega STe, and I was hearing about MiNT, an adjunct kernel that would run alongside TOS, and was like Unix. It wasn't easy to set up, since for whatever reason, there was no binary of the kernel available. I had to install from source. I cross-compiled it on Unix, I think because that would allow me to use Unix-style pathnames in MiNT. I downloaded and configured a version of gcc with a Motorola 68000 back end, on a Unix account I had, compiled the kernel with that, downloaded the binary, and booted it up. I then got a precompiled tar package of GNU utilities built for MiNT, and I was all set. It felt like an accomplishment to get that up and running, but MiNT had its limitations. It wasn't a full Unix implementation, but the tar package had so many of the same tools I used on Unix that it was difficult to notice the difference. I didn't get X11 going with it (though, that was available), nor did I get SLIP set up, but I was able to use man, gcc, flex, bison, and make on it, along with vi, and I think Emacs. It was capable of so much more that I didn't get into. I read years later that there was a PPP (Point-to-Point Protocol) handler available for it. Though, there was no web browser that would run on it, except for lynx.
As far as I remember, my first Linux install was some version of Slackware. I installed it from 60+ floppy disks and I remember that the kernel version was 0.97pl13. I'm pretty sure I installed in 1993 and in 1994 I started working in a small company using SCO Unix (the original SCO before the Caldera Group takeover) and we also installed a Linux machine because we didn't have enough SCO licenses. Good times :)
Memory is foggy, but I recall a floppy install that took quite a few floppies. My employer at the time was manufacturing CD writers, and we needed test data, so those floppies and FTP downloads got burned to writable CD. The Walnut Creek series of CDROMs from 1995 and on made it easier to install Linux. It took much more effort to actually use Linux at the time, so it was considered more of a hobby OS than one you'd actually do work or play games on. That stigma still carries weight today; people think of Linux as an OS that takes ages to install and get working. I have friends use my "public" touch screen PC in my kitchen for a quick Google and very few of them actually realize they're using Linux Mint as opposed to Windows!
60 something floppies doesn't even sound like hyperbole, I remember a similar Linux install I endured on an IBM that was from the early 90's... In the early 00's. I think it was Slackware 💀
@@neilpatrickhairless It wasn't a hyperbole, I just don't precisely remember the actual number. Many of them contained additional software and weren't required during the initial installation.
I also started with Slackware. Fortunately in those days nobody complained about X being outdated so go use Wayland while Wayland gives you screen flash! But the story is that these are Nvidia sync issues that are supposed to be fixed in the upcoming 555 driver release. So we will see! Fortunately for now the X-server is still around! Otherwise we need to get it back from the floppies! But wait... did I say floppies? th-cam.com/users/shortssNMavMAa8mU
Very similar toy experience, except we were looking at buying SCO, but decided to give slackware a try. I have almost zero SCO experience now. I looked at how slow it was to boot and how much it cost and decided "how hard could it be" to save all that money. There was internet at the time, but nothing like it is now. How-to documents were how you got each piece working. I had a printed stack about a foot thick. Figured out DHCPD, sendmail, DNS, ftp, telnet, pppd to dial in from home, can't remember the webserver, but it wasn't apache, samba, etc. So much fun problem solving because you always knew it would work, you just didn't know something important yet. The first issue after a new install was getting the CDROM drive to work again. Always worked during install, but the installed kernel was configured differently so make config and recompile the kernel trying to get stuff right.
Very similar to what I actually did in late 1992 when I installed it. Though it took me several hours, because several bits of my hardware were not supported at the time. Fun to hear the boot drive loading with that distinctive ticking again after all these years. Also, a tip: On that 386, don't unplug your keyboard! The early kernel used the keyboard controller as the timed interrupt for task switching. If your motherboard has a controller chip on board, then you're fine, but most 386 boards didn't. They started putting them on board when PS2 became more common, which was more toward in the 486 line. If you unplug the keyboard on such systems the whole system will become unstable and likely panic.
fwiw there's a copy of SLS .98 with the elusive disk A4 on the "Shareware Supreme - Vol 6. No. 1" CD in the Programming UNIX section, which you can find on the Internet Archive
My first ever Linux install was loading Debian Potato on a 486 DX/2 50MHz laptop, which had no network and no CD-ROM. First I created a partition on the 500MB HDD, used a parallel cable (fastlynx) to copy the install media onto it, then used a Debian mininst floppy to boot the laptop, then mounted the partition containing the media, then set up the rest of the OS from there. I don't remember what ever became of the minimal install partition. There was no parted magic back in those days, so i probably lost 10-20MB of HDD permanently. Maybe it became my swap partition. Who knows. Soooo much arsing around.
How impressive was that. Today, I still can see this crosshair cursor on my arch x11 system. And the program you launch, xeyes (with big eyes), still exist today. This is so cool
1992. When I had the fortune of starting my first year with comp sci at University. We got email accounts and the first interaction with Unix was with VI on $10K Sun Workstations with giant monochrome CRT:s. We downloaded this thing called NCSA Mosaic to surf the newly minted world wide web and a year or two later a fellow student in the class above had the webpage with he most hits in the world for a short while. It was a Kraftwerk fanpage with their discography on it :) A year or so later Netscape 1.0 arrived and there was not longer any doubt the WWW would be huge.
I didn't hop on the internet until at least 1994! Because number one, the school I was at before July 5, 1994, was mostly Apple IIs, some Apple IIIs, some Macintoshes and we'll be lucky for there to be any X86 computer there! I don't about the internet, even on that one.
Shoutout to all the kids who grew up on green screen MECC Apples. Our schools in South Carolina still had them around until the early 00's easily, especially in the elementary schools
Freakin sweet! Love the history of Linux. Thank you for the cool development timeline. Very interesting stuff. I was surprised how well you got everything working. Pretty amazing. It was running great on that 386! I didn't start till the kernel 2.0.36 days and things were well on their well of getting polished with several major distros. I used Slackware, as one would back in those days! I'd go to school and instead of doodling pictures in my notebook, I would write up steps to compile the kernel. Yea I was a little weird.
As someone born post year 2k, this just looks like... Like it would have been a hell of a journey to go through. Seeing a system that raw gives it all a fae-like feel that is just crazy.
Earliest I remember using was 0.96, which according to your video puts my first use at May 1992. Thanks for that. I wasn't aware of the date, but remembered the version.
I think it's appropriate (and accurate) that we spent half the duration of this video having the history lesson before actually starting the installation process.
16:00 Though I cut my teeth on MS-DOS and Win 3.11, the sounds of that thing booting up hits me right in the childhood nostalgia. My mom got me and my brother a Compaq Presario All-in-One computer back in the early 90s, '93 I think. I can't remember the exact model number, but I do remember that it was three digits, so it was either the 425, 433, or the 460. We played so much Simon the Sorcerer and Gobliiins! on that thing.
Brings back memories in around 1994 with a friend we installed a Linux distro , it took about 4 hours. A rainy Saturday arvo but got it working on an old machine but was incredibly slow.
Wow! This brings back many fond memories. I installed linux on to a 386 sx 25 with 4MB ram in 1992 also. A kernel compile was an overnight process with some large coats thrown over the PC to stop the sound of my 40Mb ESDI disk, thrashing away, keeping me and my wife awake! Only to discover in the morning it had failed the compile and I still had no parallel printer support in the monolithic kernel!
It's great to see this again. I remember downloading the contents of all the SLS floppies painstakingly over a 64kbit/s university internet connection and then installing them. Even affording enough floppy discs was a challenge. But the excitement of seeing X11 running on my own PC was unforgettable.
Yggdrasil was my first "distro", the hardware was a Noname 486/66, ET4000, 4 x RS232, 2 x 200MB harddisk, 3C501 Ethernet, 4 MB RAM. Linux Counter #3406 since 23-Oct-93.
I love the sentiment of the name of you channel. Getting in to computing in the early 90's was fun, don't get my wrong, but it was also a HUGE pain in the ass to get things to work.
Good video and well done getting the OS actually up and running. My first Linux I believe was Monkey Linux as it would install into a single file in a DOS FAT filesystem. Weird and clunky but I didn't want to potentially brick my daughter's Windows system. Soon after I got into Red Hat 5.1; a much better system and I actually committed to putting it in it's own partition and dual booting. This would have been a little bit after 1992 though.
That took me back! I downloaded my first distro off of a BBS. I think it took 20 floppies LOL... I can't remember, but man I lost my mind after seeing everything you could do.
I had a system that was sort of like this! But it was bought second hand in 1998 for 100 or near 100, IIRC, even if that seemed like much! It was a 486 SX 25 MHz, 8 MB of RAM and a Conner 240 MB hard drive. In 2000, I found a 486 DX and popped it in! That's also when I found more RAM and got it up to 20 MB! By that time, I had what was considered by far, a monster hard drive at the time, a 13 GB (12 GiB) Maxtor 66U4 series 7K hard drive, which I got brand new in 1999, IIRC. Looked like the PC was from 1993. 8 MB was a healthy amount of RAM in 1993!
I'm pretty sure it was Redhat that I got running first, in 1995. It was a Gateway tower PC, I think 486DX2/66, with SCSI on a card. Couldn't believe it when I got it to boot.
I can verify editing the MBR to boot.. I was doing that when I was showing linux to my CS profs... The couldn't believe a unix system could boot from a floppy...
My first distro was slackware back in '93 or '94. I think it came on over twenty 3.5" floppy disks. Set up dual boot with Windows and Linux. I've had a Linux box around ever since, even though I'm primarily a Windows software developer.
Brings back fond memories of backing up my 250 MB Windows hard drive onto floppy, trekking across campus with another box of floppies and raw writing SLS on to them from a Sparc IPX workstation, then installing on my 486-33 and tinkering with X mode lines until 1024x768 worked. Being able to complete CS assignments in my dorm without walking to the computer lab in the winter time...priceless! Also, the comments from the corporate UNIX types back then...Linux is just a toy and will never catch on!
I was there with MCC Interim 0.96c in July 1992. And the then current SLS version in October 1992, very close to what you installed. On a 25MHz 386DX machine with 4MB of RAM.
I had a Zenith Data Systems 386 33Mhz PC for University. Sooooo many floppies 💾 DOS 6, Windows 3.1, Derive, Quattro Pro. School software Darklands and Pirates Gold! were my fav games.
No way I would go through that again 😂. I remember having to create a ton of slackware linux distro disks and going through the whole process back in the days. So many boxes, X windows set, compiler set etc..
Great research and content. Brings back memories from those early times. Followed the mail list back mid 1992. But didn't see one running until around 1994, I think. But great video About emacs, it is the same shortcuts as in Bash. Except C-x C-s to save and C-x C-c to quit. But you usually used C-z for that, and then fg.
I first installed Linux on a 486DX/33mhz with 4M RAM sometime in late 1993 or early 1994. The first kernel I remember building is 1.0.9, but it probably sticks out in my mind because it was a particularly stable release that a lot of people stuck with. Even still, it was common back then to always upgrade your kernel because changes were coming fast; distributions could not keep up obviously, and it was usually advantageous to do so (especially if some hardware you had suddenly got support!) It took around 8 hours to build the kernel on that 486... Good times.
This brings sooo many memories.... I installed that same Yggdrasil release you mentioned. Very similar procedure. To have Lilo was a special adulthood passage :). My first six months in linux I booted it like you do in the video. Was also very practical to dual boot to windows. There were very fun things to do. Like netbooting from somewhere in Canada using dialup and a special boot disk, to try the latest kernels. Or, mounting a pre-made nfs root partition form somwhere in Berlin, with X11 and all installed. (Atrociusly slow).
This brings back memories. lol At some point in the 90s I installed Redhat on a 386 with 4Mb RAM for funsies. It needed swap partitions and it took insanely long. I fell asleep and was woken up by the floppy drive access. It worked great and I even got X to run on a 512K Trident card. This was when the internet was still great and filled with techies and scientists instead of normies with an opinion. =)
One thing that struck me is despite knowing how little X has changed, it still looks the same now. it's funny how X11 has been standard for this long. X386 to Xfee86 to XOrg and It's still the same old mess that is X11.
I remember something called "Lunix" for the C=64 in the late 90's. It was supposed to be a Unix clone but single user, cli only. I booted it up once, never found out what it was good for and left 😀
Oh for SURE. Linux users nowadays have it so much easier. Computer users in general do but particularly regarding installation processes, Linux has come a hell of a long way even since the mid 2000's
I discovered Linux via coming across SLS floppies in the file section of a BBS I frequented.. and the rest was history... Kernel at the time was .99pl11.
Thanks for this video! SLS Linux 0.98 was my first experience with Linux in 1992, I feel like I got in at the right time. Even an idiot like me could use it.
Great ... my first installation was Yggdrasil Fall 92 Edition installed on my 386DX40 4MB RAM 170MB Harddisk Dual Boot with Dos/Windows. I really have to check my basement if i can manage to find that CD-ROM anywhere ... but i sadly doubt it. Back i was a Teenager and still going to school. Today a lot of my work is still tied to Linux and Linux based Systems and Environments.
Subbed and liked! This stuff is my jam (and it's like much of my channel!) - I remember using early systems using kernel 1.x and twm as well as pwm, good times!
i expected you to be doing linux stuff right from the start, but that history lesson at the beginning was cool anyway never knew linux existed This early
Well, that was a bit of nostalgia. After the Xenix project failed we jumped on the Linux band wagon pretty early just to evaluate it. We were all command line unix people so never bother with X11. Don't think linux even had it then. I'm fairly sure it was 0.12 but man it was a while ago so I don't trust my memory too much. Especially since we discovered it was not ready for prime time and abandoned it a few weeks in. Went back to it more then a year later and found it had seriously improved. We decided it still wasn't ready for prime time but I've had a version of linux running at home ever since then. Still. Linux was plagued with hardware compatibility and driver issues for many years. It was a great idea to start your project with supported hardware.
Memoiries. Clikcing Next Next Next (not speaking any english) and using whole disk and eliminating all my memories, notes, photos from all my life from the laptop. and i spent almost all week downloading the image through aDSL in 1996-98. All the Compiling of Kernel. What the loss and what a time well spent.
i have a Yggdrasil linux distro on cdrom. it was my first linux install back in 1994. I'd have to look for it, but I'm pretty sure I still have it. I purchased the CDROM from the University of Waterloo in Ontario Canada. It came with two big 3-ring binders of howtos and notes, and used LILO to boot.
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Love seeing that old American Megatrends Inc. BIOS splash message at boot. It's like an old friend saying hello to me from the past.
it's like listening to pearl jam in the modern day. A reminder of better days in the past.
AMI was still active making UEFI/BIOS and UEFI version with name Aptio
Even OEM made their UEFI themself, they still rely with Aptio/AMI
now we are here today when after booting from a usb you click through an installer and wait 20 minutes, then you are left with a fully functional linux installation
And grumble the entire time about how long it takes.
Some distros can complete the installation process in about 5 minutes
@@Sithhy Thank goodness. I think it has less to do with the distro itself, and most of the time really just comes down to how fast the storage devices (or internet, in netinstalls) are. I've installed distros on PCs with USB 1.1, and let me tell you, it's... not quick.
I have an old intel atom netbook with an SSD I installed LMDE to, and that only took about 4 minutes.
.. until something breaks...
@@damianfleszar8576 I see you’re familiar with Arch. It’ll be up to date, the most recent version of everything. Whether it works or not, it’ll be the most recent.
This is the first evidence I’ve seen that someone got SLS to work. I spent more than a few days in 1993 or 1994 trying to figure it out without success. Switched to Slackware and it worked so much better. Been using Linux since 0.7 when I was compiling my own kernels.
Yes, I think it was some version of Slackware when I had the kernel compile complteted first try. Didn't have to much with thing, chase down fixes, etc.
@@guydreger7315 Last time I compiled was to get XFree86 working on slackware. That took like a week.
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You did a good job on backstory and transition in to title content.
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Thanks for posting.
I remember a college friend told me in 1992 that he had set up Linux on his PC at home with X11, and that he was connecting to the university's network using a modem and SLIP (Serial Line Internet Protocol).
This gives me an idea of what he had to do to set it up.
Your friend was Das Haxxor
You just gave us your age and I'm not far from you.
@@anderson_maciel - I did something in the same vein about a year later. I had an Atari Mega STe, and I was hearing about MiNT, an adjunct kernel that would run alongside TOS, and was like Unix. It wasn't easy to set up, since for whatever reason, there was no binary of the kernel available. I had to install from source. I cross-compiled it on Unix, I think because that would allow me to use Unix-style pathnames in MiNT. I downloaded and configured a version of gcc with a Motorola 68000 back end, on a Unix account I had, compiled the kernel with that, downloaded the binary, and booted it up.
I then got a precompiled tar package of GNU utilities built for MiNT, and I was all set.
It felt like an accomplishment to get that up and running, but MiNT had its limitations. It wasn't a full Unix implementation, but the tar package had so many of the same tools I used on Unix that it was difficult to notice the difference. I didn't get X11 going with it (though, that was available), nor did I get SLIP set up, but I was able to use man, gcc, flex, bison, and make on it, along with vi, and I think Emacs. It was capable of so much more that I didn't get into. I read years later that there was a PPP (Point-to-Point Protocol) handler available for it. Though, there was no web browser that would run on it, except for lynx.
Slip, now there is a blast from the past. Well. Actually pretty glad we have gotten past that. :p
As far as I remember, my first Linux install was some version of Slackware. I installed it from 60+ floppy disks and I remember that the kernel version was 0.97pl13. I'm pretty sure I installed in 1993 and in 1994 I started working in a small company using SCO Unix (the original SCO before the Caldera Group takeover) and we also installed a Linux machine because we didn't have enough SCO licenses. Good times :)
Memory is foggy, but I recall a floppy install that took quite a few floppies. My employer at the time was manufacturing CD writers, and we needed test data, so those floppies and FTP downloads got burned to writable CD. The Walnut Creek series of CDROMs from 1995 and on made it easier to install Linux. It took much more effort to actually use Linux at the time, so it was considered more of a hobby OS than one you'd actually do work or play games on. That stigma still carries weight today; people think of Linux as an OS that takes ages to install and get working. I have friends use my "public" touch screen PC in my kitchen for a quick Google and very few of them actually realize they're using Linux Mint as opposed to Windows!
60 something floppies doesn't even sound like hyperbole, I remember a similar Linux install I endured on an IBM that was from the early 90's... In the early 00's. I think it was Slackware 💀
@@neilpatrickhairless It wasn't a hyperbole, I just don't precisely remember the actual number. Many of them contained additional software and weren't required during the initial installation.
I also started with Slackware. Fortunately in those days nobody complained about X being outdated so go use Wayland while Wayland gives you screen flash! But the story is that these are Nvidia sync issues that are supposed to be fixed in the upcoming 555 driver release. So we will see! Fortunately for now the X-server is still around! Otherwise we need to get it back from the floppies!
But wait... did I say floppies?
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Very similar toy experience, except we were looking at buying SCO, but decided to give slackware a try. I have almost zero SCO experience now. I looked at how slow it was to boot and how much it cost and decided "how hard could it be" to save all that money. There was internet at the time, but nothing like it is now. How-to documents were how you got each piece working. I had a printed stack about a foot thick. Figured out DHCPD, sendmail, DNS, ftp, telnet, pppd to dial in from home, can't remember the webserver, but it wasn't apache, samba, etc. So much fun problem solving because you always knew it would work, you just didn't know something important yet. The first issue after a new install was getting the CDROM drive to work again. Always worked during install, but the installed kernel was configured differently so make config and recompile the kernel trying to get stuff right.
Very similar to what I actually did in late 1992 when I installed it. Though it took me several hours, because several bits of my hardware were not supported at the time. Fun to hear the boot drive loading with that distinctive ticking again after all these years.
Also, a tip: On that 386, don't unplug your keyboard! The early kernel used the keyboard controller as the timed interrupt for task switching. If your motherboard has a controller chip on board, then you're fine, but most 386 boards didn't. They started putting them on board when PS2 became more common, which was more toward in the 486 line. If you unplug the keyboard on such systems the whole system will become unstable and likely panic.
fwiw there's a copy of SLS .98 with the elusive disk A4 on the "Shareware Supreme - Vol 6. No. 1" CD in the Programming UNIX section, which you can find on the Internet Archive
This was special, thank you so much for your efforts. I was only 11 years old in 1992 and this is way beyond what id be (or still are) capable of.
My first ever Linux install was loading Debian Potato on a 486 DX/2 50MHz laptop, which had no network and no CD-ROM. First I created a partition on the 500MB HDD, used a parallel cable (fastlynx) to copy the install media onto it, then used a Debian mininst floppy to boot the laptop, then mounted the partition containing the media, then set up the rest of the OS from there. I don't remember what ever became of the minimal install partition. There was no parted magic back in those days, so i probably lost 10-20MB of HDD permanently. Maybe it became my swap partition. Who knows.
Soooo much arsing around.
How impressive was that.
Today, I still can see this crosshair cursor on my arch x11 system. And the program you launch, xeyes (with big eyes), still exist today. This is so cool
I remember downloading the Slackware floppies off of usenet at work and installing it on a partition on my 386 back in 94. Those were the days.
1992. When I had the fortune of starting my first year with comp sci at University. We got email accounts and the first interaction with Unix was with VI on $10K Sun Workstations with giant monochrome CRT:s.
We downloaded this thing called NCSA Mosaic to surf the newly minted world wide web and a year or two later a fellow student in the class above had the webpage with he most hits in the world for a short while. It was a Kraftwerk fanpage with their discography on it :)
A year or so later Netscape 1.0 arrived and there was not longer any doubt the WWW would be huge.
I didn't hop on the internet until at least 1994! Because number one, the school I was at before July 5, 1994, was mostly Apple IIs, some Apple IIIs, some Macintoshes and we'll be lucky for there to be any X86 computer there! I don't about the internet, even on that one.
Shoutout to all the kids who grew up on green screen MECC Apples. Our schools in South Carolina still had them around until the early 00's easily, especially in the elementary schools
Omg, if i had all the time back that i spent in x cfg with all of the different machines and cards and monitors. I would easily add years to my life.
I still have a backup of my X config from back then for fear I'd have to rewrite it again
And today the recommendation is to just not have one. This shit just configures itself - finally!
If you messed up v-sync and h-sync the man page said you could do real damage to your monitor. I fussed about that for hours per installation
@@Jonix2000 And at the same time DOS and Windows users didn‘t have to care for such topics.
@@masterofx32 Life on the top of Nerd mountain can be quite unfair
Freakin sweet! Love the history of Linux. Thank you for the cool development timeline. Very interesting stuff. I was surprised how well you got everything working. Pretty amazing. It was running great on that 386! I didn't start till the kernel 2.0.36 days and things were well on their well of getting polished with several major distros. I used Slackware, as one would back in those days! I'd go to school and instead of doodling pictures in my notebook, I would write up steps to compile the kernel. Yea I was a little weird.
If you are able to, get a better mic - other than that I enjoyed this! Good job, TH-cam.
Nostalgia! I didn't get on board until 94-95, but this takes me back! 🙂
i tried linux 1994 i think. This video was such a fun nostalgic ride and also fun getting some more info about the development of linux back then :)
Sadly, Linux was a bummer for me in 2002, long after 1992! I don't think I ever went back to Windows any faster than I did in 2002!
I appreciate your dedication to the source material by insisting on using all original 1992 hardware to record and process all your audio as well.
I just realized you only have like 50 subscribers! :3 this is an awesome video and i subscribed :3
Over 300 now!
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As someone born post year 2k, this just looks like...
Like it would have been a hell of a journey to go through.
Seeing a system that raw gives it all a fae-like feel that is just crazy.
Earliest I remember using was 0.96, which according to your video puts my first use at May 1992. Thanks for that. I wasn't aware of the date, but remembered the version.
I think it's appropriate (and accurate) that we spent half the duration of this video having the history lesson before actually starting the installation process.
I look forward to watching this channel grow
I started with Slackware in 1994 (remotely) and 1995 (locally). This makes me feel like a newb! Nice research on the 1991-1992 period.
Making me feel like a late comer jumping on board around 99
98 or 99 was around the time I first used Linux as well, now I feel like grandpa Internet around kids hahaha
I started with Slackware in 2000.
Nice, I had upgraded my 4MB, 386 Gateway 2000 to 486Dx2/66 with 16MB and installed Slackware on 95 or 96.
16:00 Though I cut my teeth on MS-DOS and Win 3.11, the sounds of that thing booting up hits me right in the childhood nostalgia. My mom got me and my brother a Compaq Presario All-in-One computer back in the early 90s, '93 I think. I can't remember the exact model number, but I do remember that it was three digits, so it was either the 425, 433, or the 460.
We played so much Simon the Sorcerer and Gobliiins! on that thing.
Brings back memories in around 1994 with a friend we installed a Linux distro , it took about 4 hours. A rainy Saturday arvo but got it working on an old machine but was incredibly slow.
this was amazing to watch and learn the history of Linux! As a hobbyist OS Dev this inspires me further!
Wow! This brings back many fond memories. I installed linux on to a 386 sx 25 with 4MB ram in 1992 also. A kernel compile was an overnight process with some large coats thrown over the PC to stop the sound of my 40Mb ESDI disk, thrashing away, keeping me and my wife awake! Only to discover in the morning it had failed the compile and I still had no parallel printer support in the monolithic kernel!
There is something indescribably satisfying about watching an archaic version of an OS booting up on period hardware 🙃
It's great to see this again. I remember downloading the contents of all the SLS floppies painstakingly over a 64kbit/s university internet connection and then installing them. Even affording enough floppy discs was a challenge. But the excitement of seeing X11 running on my own PC was unforgettable.
great video, very informative! i learned quite a bit from the timeline section. i also really appreciate that you provided subtitles!
Great video. I didn't try Linux until around mid 90s myself. so much happened in such a short time back then.
Yggdrasil was my first "distro", the hardware was a Noname 486/66, ET4000, 4 x RS232, 2 x 200MB harddisk, 3C501 Ethernet, 4 MB RAM. Linux Counter #3406 since 23-Oct-93.
Thank you for including good quality captions! :)
I started using Linux in 1993. I remember this time well. Slackware! SUSE! RedHat!
"you're using a 286, don't make me laugh. Your Windows boots up in what? A day and a half?"
What kind of chip you got in there? A dorito?
You could backup your whole hard drive on a diskette. You're the biggest joker on the internet.
Ooh. Finally some good content from the YT algo
Hella subscribing for more of this
I love the sentiment of the name of you channel. Getting in to computing in the early 90's was fun, don't get my wrong, but it was also a HUGE pain in the ass to get things to work.
Very well made, liked and subbed. I liked the part where you explained linux development :)
Awesome. Thanks for the nostalgia journey.
awesome video, thanks for making it so descriptive
Good video and well done getting the OS actually up and running. My first Linux I believe was Monkey Linux as it would install into a single file in a DOS FAT filesystem. Weird and clunky but I didn't want to potentially brick my daughter's Windows system. Soon after I got into Red Hat 5.1; a much better system and I actually committed to putting it in it's own partition and dual booting. This would have been a little bit after 1992 though.
That took me back! I downloaded my first distro off of a BBS. I think it took 20 floppies LOL... I can't remember, but man I lost my mind after seeing everything you could do.
I had a system that was sort of like this! But it was bought second hand in 1998 for 100 or near 100, IIRC, even if that seemed like much! It was a 486 SX 25 MHz, 8 MB of RAM and a Conner 240 MB hard drive. In 2000, I found a 486 DX and popped it in! That's also when I found more RAM and got it up to 20 MB! By that time, I had what was considered by far, a monster hard drive at the time, a 13 GB (12 GiB) Maxtor 66U4 series 7K hard drive, which I got brand new in 1999, IIRC. Looked like the PC was from 1993. 8 MB was a healthy amount of RAM in 1993!
My god I spent two decades lookıng at a CRT and hearing slowdisks. I miss the experience so much.
This really makes me appreciate just how easy it was for me to install Linux a few days ago.
I'm pretty sure it was Redhat that I got running first, in 1995. It was a Gateway tower PC, I think 486DX2/66, with SCSI on a card. Couldn't believe it when I got it to boot.
First Linux distro I installed was RedHat Linux 9 (1995). I was afraid to insert a CD of fear it will break lol.
I can verify editing the MBR to boot.. I was doing that when I was showing linux to my CS profs... The couldn't believe a unix system could boot from a floppy...
I now see why windows got the big marketshare. But thanks for showing this to someone born after Y2k. Great video
My first distro was slackware back in '93 or '94. I think it came on over twenty 3.5" floppy disks. Set up dual boot with Windows and Linux. I've had a Linux box around ever since, even though I'm primarily a Windows software developer.
Brings back fond memories of backing up my 250 MB Windows hard drive onto floppy, trekking across campus with another box of floppies and raw writing SLS on to them from a Sparc IPX workstation, then installing on my 486-33 and tinkering with X mode lines until 1024x768 worked. Being able to complete CS assignments in my dorm without walking to the computer lab in the winter time...priceless! Also, the comments from the corporate UNIX types back then...Linux is just a toy and will never catch on!
I was there with MCC Interim 0.96c in July 1992. And the then current SLS version in October 1992, very close to what you installed. On a 25MHz 386DX machine with 4MB of RAM.
I remember first time I saw the wonderful "X" after I spent hours working on the installation.
I had a Zenith Data Systems 386 33Mhz PC for University. Sooooo many floppies 💾
DOS 6, Windows 3.1, Derive, Quattro Pro. School software
Darklands and Pirates Gold! were my fav games.
No way I would go through that again 😂. I remember having to create a ton of slackware linux distro disks and going through the whole process back in the days. So many boxes, X windows set, compiler set etc..
If you had a SoundBlaster with two little speakers on the sides in 1992, then you had a sweet, high-end machine. Nice.
Great research and content.
Brings back memories from those early times. Followed the mail list back mid 1992. But didn't see one running until around 1994, I think.
But great video
About emacs, it is the same shortcuts as in Bash. Except C-x C-s to save and C-x C-c to quit. But you usually used C-z for that, and then fg.
Linuks Torvalds: Finlands most prominent Swede.
this just shows me how much stuff I use today and associate with linux are actually pre-linux
this was a super cool and kinda inspiring video for me, may youtube be nice to you and show this to more people ^^
I first installed Linux on a 486DX/33mhz with 4M RAM sometime in late 1993 or early 1994. The first kernel I remember building is 1.0.9, but it probably sticks out in my mind because it was a particularly stable release that a lot of people stuck with. Even still, it was common back then to always upgrade your kernel because changes were coming fast; distributions could not keep up obviously, and it was usually advantageous to do so (especially if some hardware you had suddenly got support!) It took around 8 hours to build the kernel on that 486... Good times.
Hah... I remember those high resolution virtual console text modes, they were awesome. I think they had something to do with SVGAlib?
Ugh, writing Xconfig by hand... hoping you don't damage your monitor with too high a dot clock...
God bless FVWM!
This brings sooo many memories.... I installed that same Yggdrasil release you mentioned. Very similar procedure.
To have Lilo was a special adulthood passage :). My first six months in linux I booted it like you do in the video. Was also very practical to dual boot to windows.
There were very fun things to do. Like netbooting from somewhere in Canada using dialup and a special boot disk, to try the latest kernels.
Or, mounting a pre-made nfs root partition form somwhere in Berlin, with X11 and all installed. (Atrociusly slow).
This brings back memories. lol
At some point in the 90s I installed Redhat on a 386 with 4Mb RAM for funsies.
It needed swap partitions and it took insanely long. I fell asleep and was woken up by the floppy drive access.
It worked great and I even got X to run on a 512K Trident card.
This was when the internet was still great and filled with techies and scientists instead of normies with an opinion. =)
Oh the flashbacks! It was torture getting it up and running in the early days.
This has dosemu as well, it would be interesting to see such an old version of it.
One thing that struck me is despite knowing how little X has changed, it still looks the same now. it's funny how X11 has been standard for this long. X386 to Xfee86 to XOrg and It's still the same old mess that is X11.
Most excellent, I knew a fare bit about this history but your timeline really connected the bits for me.
startx gives me nostalgia, and ... nightmares too
Subscriber 414 reporting in! I wrote a multitasking "kernel" for the C64 once. It didn't do much else, unfortunately.
I remember something called "Lunix" for the C=64 in the late 90's.
It was supposed to be a Unix clone but single user, cli only.
I booted it up once, never found out what it was good for and left 😀
This makes me soooo grateful for the simplicity of ubuntu and linux mint....
Oh for SURE. Linux users nowadays have it so much easier. Computer users in general do but particularly regarding installation processes, Linux has come a hell of a long way even since the mid 2000's
I discovered Linux via coming across SLS floppies in the file section of a BBS I frequented.. and the rest was history... Kernel at the time was .99pl11.
Been there, done that. It was "fun". Playing with monitor timings was so nice...
You could actually damage your monitor with the wrong settings. Fun times :)
This really brings back some (mostly good) memories. Even when we had to tinker around with something to get it working, we still had fun.
Those keyboard sounds triggered a lot of flashbacks.
man's got dem keyboard ptsd's, ugeddme
Thanks for this video! SLS Linux 0.98 was my first experience with Linux in 1992, I feel like I got in at the right time. Even an idiot like me could use it.
Great ... my first installation was Yggdrasil Fall 92 Edition installed on my 386DX40 4MB RAM 170MB Harddisk Dual Boot with Dos/Windows. I really have to check my basement if i can manage to find that CD-ROM anywhere ... but i sadly doubt it. Back i was a Teenager and still going to school. Today a lot of my work is still tied to Linux and Linux based Systems and Environments.
Subbed and liked! This stuff is my jam (and it's like much of my channel!) - I remember using early systems using kernel 1.x and twm as well as pwm, good times!
Nice work digging through history
The way it fades in when you boot it up is slicker than any sleep/wake or boot experience on modern computers lol
The hell do you dial a partition with a modem.
Really cool to watch. I switched to Linux in 1998 and have not used Windows since. In fact, I get lost now in Windows :)
i expected you to be doing linux stuff right from the start, but that history lesson at the beginning was cool anyway
never knew linux existed This early
Delightful and informative look into the past!
back in these early days in some ways the difficulty of getting it working made it feel much more magic.
Well, that was a bit of nostalgia. After the Xenix project failed we jumped on the Linux band wagon pretty early just to evaluate it. We were all command line unix people so never bother with X11. Don't think linux even had it then. I'm fairly sure it was 0.12 but man it was a while ago so I don't trust my memory too much. Especially since we discovered it was not ready for prime time and abandoned it a few weeks in. Went back to it more then a year later and found it had seriously improved. We decided it still wasn't ready for prime time but I've had a version of linux running at home ever since then. Still. Linux was plagued with hardware compatibility and driver issues for many years. It was a great idea to start your project with supported hardware.
A machine like this used to compile a full ST and Amiga build of my games in six seconds !
Couple ot thumb's ups for this insanely geek video 😆Damned, it's like windows 1.0 all over again with the very achaic X-terminal 😅
You installed linux a lot faster than the first time I did in 2014...
Memoiries. Clikcing Next Next Next (not speaking any english) and using whole disk and eliminating all my memories, notes, photos from all my life from the laptop.
and i spent almost all week downloading the image through aDSL in 1996-98. All the Compiling of Kernel. What the loss and what a time well spent.
Xeyes ! Thanks for the memories 😊
Nice video! I just subbed. Keep up the good work!
It’s crazy how we used to put screens on the computers and now computers and screens are side by side or no the floor or in the screen
i have a Yggdrasil linux distro on cdrom. it was my first linux install back in 1994. I'd have to look for it, but I'm pretty sure I still have it.
I purchased the CDROM from the University of Waterloo in Ontario Canada. It came with two big 3-ring binders of howtos and notes, and used LILO to boot.
I remember having a stack of Slackware disks and XFree86 didn't work, so I just ran as terminal for a few months until I figured it out.
very good video! seriously, i didn't even realize you've got only 8 subscribers.. 9 now :)
I was both entertained and schooled watching this.
Really good and informative video.
Ah, fond memories!